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As The Rich Get Poorer

Making the rich poorer doesn't make everyone else richer

 

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For years, we've debated rising economic inequality. On one side, liberals denounce it as unjust. Redistribute wealth to the poor and middle class, they say. On the other, conservatives minimize its importance. What matters most is overall economic growth, they retort. Well, the conjunction of the presidential campaign and the financial crisis is giving the debate a curious twist. Liberals have triumphed politically; soaking the rich has become more acceptable. But conservatives may have won the intellectual argument; making the rich poorer doesn't make everyone else richer.

If Barack Obama and John McCain agreed on anything, it was this: Greed is bad. They competed in denunciations of reckless investment bankers and avaricious CEOs. Obama proposed raising taxes on higher incomes (couples making more than $250,000); though McCain didn't, he suggested that much recent wealth accumulation was ill-gotten. Unintentionally, perhaps, he buttressed the moral case for more redistribution. Let's tap the gold mine of the rich.

Unfortunately, the mine has less gold. All the financial turmoil has left the wealthy—however they are definedcmuch less wealthy. Stock ownership is highly concentrated. In 2001, the richest 1 percent owned 34 percent of stocks and mutual funds, estimates economist Edward N. Wolff of New York University. Let's see. Since the market's high in October 2007, stocks are down (through Oct. 31) 38 percent, or $7.5 trillion, reports Wilshire Associates.


That will mean lower capital gains taxes, because capital gains—profits on the sale of stocks and other assets—will plunge. In recent years, capital gains taxes have been running at $100 billion or more. That amount could drop sharply, even if the top rate on capital gains were raised from 15 percent to its pre-2003 level, 20 percent.

Thousands of well-paid investment bankers, traders, portfolio managers and securities analysts are losing their jobs. Though Wall Street bonuses will continue, their total is likely to decrease. Gains in executive compensation may be similarly squeezed. Profits are down; the political climate is hostile. In 2005, the richest 1 percent of Americans had 18 percent of total income and paid 28 percent of all federal taxes, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Their income won't grow much. Even if higher tax rates increase government revenue, the effect will be less than before.

Judged only by economic inequality, the financial crisis is a godsend. It will probably narrow the gap—though still vast—between the rich and everybody else. But what good will that do? Economic inequality also declined in the Great Depression. The country wasn't better off. By and large, the poor aren't poor because the rich are rich. They're usually poor for their own reasons: family breakdown, low skills, destructive personal habits and plain bad luck.

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  • Posted By: roadee @ 11/21/2008 12:15:50 PM

    Math is not one of my better subjects, so for those of you that are a little better at this than me, here's my question.... I have seen on T.V. that instead of bailing the banks and companies that have gotten into a jam because of their mismanagement, instead we give everyone (legal residents) over the age of 18 $100,000.00, we might also exclude those that have been convicted of a felony (maybe just elegible boters?). How much would this cost??? Even if we toned that down to $50,000.00? This would help all those facing foreclosure and help the banks as they would be getting the money from the people that owe it. It may even help the car companies, people might buy cars. It would for sure help the whole economy as everyone would have money to spend. Seems to me this would do more good than the current plan to bail the companies out.

  • Posted By: suzvoter47 @ 11/21/2008 11:21:10 AM

    Mr. Samuleson: As a observation not all of us are "poor" some of us are well educated individuals that work icareers that are not deemed "valuable" at least not in a monetary sense. I resent your implications of the behaviors of those that are not rich I believe you mentioned the poor. Not all poor are lazy and ahving bad habits or educations. Life has a way of throwing curve balls to MANY, how do I know I have dealt with this all my career in NON-PROFIT counseling to aide people. My husband is also well educated and we are at what would be considered a comfortable income level.

    Heres the catch as the wealthier people went up the ladder they forgot about the rest of the people and tooke for themselve in wast quantities of greed. We on the other hand don't have the fancy loop holes to stash our cash. Non profits usually cannot offer a retirement account, therefoe I alone put aside my monies for the future. There were no christmas parties, dinners or bonuses to be had. My husbands company eliminated pension plans and now yearly the yearly bonus for those middle executives.

    We still pay rather hefty taxes here in western NY and Im assuming due to the problems downstate we will be blostering downstate once again, while we have been ignored and scrapping by for decades.

    If the rich have to take it on the chin like the rest of us, so be it I think after what we have witnessed due to INCOMOPENTENCY and GREED maybe the "rich" will forced to rethink there me first attitudes that have prevailed for too long.

  • Posted By: epryor @ 11/20/2008 3:58:39 PM

    Mr. Samuelson, have you ever played a game of monopoly? What happens when one person owns all the properties, all the houses and hotels. Its game over. The rich cannot continue to make money because everyone else is broke. If the properties are distrubed more evenly, then the game can go on forever. You may own Boardwalk and Park Place, but I own all the railroads. I make money, then you make money.

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