A Post-Evangelical America

"...almost every person of faith EXCEPT those whose church cultures insists on a personal relationship with Jesus Christ."
We have come very far from the {correct} views of our founding fathers. We can't know--truly know--each other without a personal relationhsip; same is true with God, Christ, and Spirit--which IS how we receive of Them. The key word in the quote is "except"; we are seeing and shall see more and more that those whose beliefs, doctrines, and practices insist on that personal relationship are indeed, the correct ones. Do note, I am not a radical, nor a fanatic, and my "tone" proves that out. By the way, upon salvation, we are still sinners, whether is be stealing a piece of gum, or murdering, BUT salvation should take away our "want to" or desire, or inclination to- do what is wrong. Yes, we're secure for all eternity, but the "do anything I want to" thought purely slaughters the point; only an ignorant would proclaim his salvation (persoanal relationship) in such a manner.

Respectfully,

Eld. Brent Hall

"...almost every person of faith EXCEPT those whose church cultures insists on a personal relationship with Jesus Christ."
We have come very far from the {correct} views of our founding fathers. We can't know--truly know--each other without a personal relationhsip; same is true with God, Christ, and Spirit--which IS how we receive of Them. The key word in the quote is "except"; we are seeing and shall see more and more that those whose beliefs, doctrines, and practices insist on that personal relationship are indeed, the correct ones. Do note, I am not a radical, nor a fanatic, and my "tone" proves that out. By the way, upon salvation, we are still sinners, whether is be stealing a piece of gum, or murdering, BUT salvation should take away our "want to" or desire, or inclination to- do what is wrong. Yes, we're secure for all eternity, but the "do anything I want to" thought purely slaughters the point; only an ignorant would proclaim his salvation (persoanal relationship) in such a manner.

Respectfully,

Eld. Brent Hall

William Penn said Right is right even if everyone is against it and wrong is wrong even if everyone is for it.
Abortion is murder...it is wrong...no matter how many "Christians" claim it isn't.

That in the 21st Century we are still encumbered by stone age superstition is a sad statement indeed. Only until we unshackle ourselves from this self-delusion will we truly be able to explore the full potential of mankind. I really hope Obama's public statement of faith is simply politically necessary posturing. Bust Jr. was the epitome of faith based thinking and look where that got us.

I'd like to thank my lord & savior Jesus Christ for sending that religious nut job Sarah Palin back to Alaska.

OhioGal - thank you -you said clearly what I wanted to say.

Thank goodness that most far right "holy rollers" are hypocrites. The political issues are what made this election, as it should be. The faster the reps realize they have no business in the bedroom or telling a woman what she can and cant do, the better.
Leave the religious hocus-pocus in the privacy of your own home/community, where it belongs.

Your last paragraph explains exactly why this election doesn't necessarily warrant the title of the article. Just because Christians voted for Obama does not mean they agree with his stance on abortion or Gay rights. The fact that 3 states passed bills prohibiting gay marriage proves that. This election for many came down to IRAQ and the economy. It will be interesting to see if these Christians who didn't want to be "single issue voters" will rise up and confront the pro-choice \ pro-gay democratic regime they just put into office. If the Cliinton years are any indication, the answer is just maybe. Note that it is one thing to vote when your options are binary - but every Sunday they are going church, pondering what it means to be a Christian, and the conviction of the Holy Spirit can be strong and completey overwhelming. Never, under estimate a work of God within the Christian church of the United States.

Your last paragraph is explains exactly why this election doesn't necessarily warrant the title of the article. Just because Christians voted for Obama it does not mean they agree with his stance on abortion or Gay rights. The fact that 3 states passed bills prohibiting gay marriage proves that. This election for many came down to IRAQ and the economy. It will be interesting to see if these Christians who didn't want to be "single issue voters" will rise up and confront the pro-choice \ pro-gay democratic regime they just put into office. If the Cliinton years are any indication, the answer is yes.

Comment:The evangelical agenda is so narrow! I wish they would extend their concerns for embryos to other forms of life--even fully formed, conscious human beings who die in great numbers in campaigns of mass organized violence. Somehow evangelicals are wishy-washy about war. Why are they so focused on abortion as THE litmus test of a person's morality?

Comment:The evangelical agenda is so narrow! I wish they would extend their concerns for embryos to other forms of life--even fully formed, conscious human beings who die in great numbers in campaigns of mass organized violence. Somehow evangelicals are wishy-washy about war. Why are they so focused on abortion as THE litmus test of a person's morality?

For all of us who believe in God, let's repent of our complaining, and set aside time - good time - to pray, even fast, for what is to come. We have to pray for the coming years under a new government. .As a Chrstian, you should read Jeremiah 29:7 - the principle of God's people praying for the welfare of the governments over them. Let's ask God for guidance and to lead this nation in the right path.

I always find it curious that reporters will rush to describe Obama's faith as "deep and religious." How do they know? Do they know his heart? It's just silly. What's not silly is the fact that a "religious" person would defend the slaughter of small human beings for, among other reasons, the sake of lifestyle expediency. I can't get past that. It's life. It's a non-negotiable. Deride it as a litmus test, but the illusory value of tax cuts pales to defenseless babies

Why is this about race- it seems one has committed a crime if you did not vote for Obama- well 48 million did not agreee- 48 % of America sees things differently- not bigots- Its America and its ok to disagree.
The avg person waiting on their first entitlement check will be just as poor in 4 years because one has to work for a living-

Imagine if Americans taught their children physics before brain washing them with their supernatural fatasies.

Why are the white Christian conservatives always on the defensive, always accusing, always so judgemental, always sounding so pious and righteous? Such a rigid group of people! I think what drives these people to the Evangelical Christianity is fear and an intolerance for anything that conflicts with their own narrow minded set of rules. I accept their choice wholeheartedly, but I wish they wouldn't be so obsessed with loudly and rudely attacking everyone who doesn't believe the same way. Just accept that there are many, many other ways to be a good and faithful Christian. Follow your path to God your way, and leave mine alone!