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  • Posted By: LutherNF @ 11/07/2008 2:45:46 PM

    To say that the Republicans have a monopoly on stupidity is absurd. In the Southern US, for instance, the Democrats had a stranglehold for over 100 years....from about 1862 until 1980 or so.....primarily because the southern democrat associated Republicans with Lincoln.....and they weren't too keen on what Lincoln accomplished. You can call this intellectualism. I call is bigotry. Trotsky was an intellectual Marxist (Happy Birthday, Leon).....but his ideology was wrong. Most of the posts on this page define "anti-intellectual" as "anyone who disagrees with my ideology"........so, according to that definition, most of you are idiots in my book. Cheers.

    • Posted By: Jaybert @ 11/07/2008 2:58:37 PM

      Nobody said the Republicans had a monopoly on stupidity. That is a totally different point than saying there is a segment of the conservative base that is anti-intellectual, a sentiment that is not matched by the liberal left. Nobody disagrees that there are stupid people all over the place. And all your other stuff about the Democrat and Republican party in the 1800's... Please. The world was a totally different place, as were the parties platforms. The current conservative movement has a subpopulation of anti-intellectual dunces.

  • Posted By: hey_dave @ 11/07/2008 2:42:04 PM

    I find it amazing,and disingenous, that if one disagrees with someone on pragmatic and pholosophical grounds they would be considered "anti-intellectual". This makes the assumption that only by holding to certain beliefs can one be intellectual. This is snobbery and close minded. It also dismisses any disagreement before it can even be discussed rather than showing the author of the disagreement the respect one is expecting for one's own ideas. It appears to be a form of intellectual bullying.

    • Posted By: Dave in NM @ 11/07/2008 2:53:22 PM

      "I find it amazing,and disingenous, that if one disagrees with someone on pragmatic and pholosophical grounds they would be considered "anti-intellectual."

      Um, the story didn't say anything about any disagreements on pragmatic and philosophical grounds. Surely you can't be so deluded as to believe the Bush administration acted on anything but pure partisan ideology and cynical politics, all underpinned by flat-earth religious dogma and the most shocking avarice this country has ever seen. ....Can you?

  • Posted By: hey_dave @ 11/07/2008 2:50:20 PM

    It is disingenous to consider those who disagree with you of being anti-intellectual. It assumes that only your opinion has been thought out and those who disagree are only able to react emotionally to your opinion.This shows an intellectual bullying and a close-mindedness on the part of the author about any dissenting opinion. Such opinions are able to be immediately discounted as not equalling the author's because,unlike his, they are "anti-intellectual". This also prevents or discourages debate as it begins on the premise that not all ideas are equal.

  • Posted By: Tech '91 @ 11/07/2008 2:49:33 PM

    It is probably not self-deluded drivel to suggest that President Bush is less than a stellar intellect, and there is in my view an apparent bias in Conservative thought towards tribal uniformity and the pre-eminence of symbol over substance; creating the environment where waiving a flag becomes a substitute for any depth of understanding of what the symbolism of flag represents. This is why individuals such a Governor Palin can be taken seriously as national leaders even thought they believe in witches and think dinosaurs and humans co-existed. The reference to the Twin Towers is quite instructive, since there were probably not many Creationists involved in the Manhattan Project. Knowledge is power; power is survival, and ignorance is the end of American civilization. Let the Renaissance begin.

  • Posted By: Jaybert @ 11/07/2008 2:31:23 PM

    Luther - I would say you are the deluded one to think that there is not a significant portion of the conservative base that is very much anti-intellectual. George W Bush appealed to these rural conservative with his inarticulate blather and simpleton reasoning.. Palin's primary appeal was among those who related to her "folksy" anti-intellectualism and anti-scientific idealism. Bill O'Reilly's viewers, while versed in current political events, are drawn not to his intellectual arguments as much as his emotional outbursts, biased criticism and even blatant insults towards anything from the NY Times to France. You are wrong. When the towers fell, we did need more "nuance." We should have employed more thoughtful strategy in our response as well as more cunning foreign relations to strengthen our international allies. Knee jerk response and half-wit blundering, or calculated policy, the country has chosen.

    • Posted By: octave @ 11/07/2008 2:35:13 PM

      I agree with you to a point, but to sit and talk and talk is nice when you are home with friends. 9/11 needed bold action and it was given. Iraq no

      • Posted By: Dave in NM @ 11/07/2008 2:47:47 PM

        9/11 needed bold action, but that action (going after Al Qaeda in Afghanistan) was quickly abandoned in favor of a cynical political move whose net costs are very nearly inestimable. Spit out the kool-aid! Oh - wait - you already swallowed it.

      • Posted By: JC0101 @ 11/07/2008 2:44:43 PM

        The response to 9/11 was terrible. Bin Laden is still around and the Taliban are making a comeback. We are stuck in a guagmire in Afghanistan. You need a combination of bold and smart action.

  • Posted By: LutherNF @ 11/07/2008 2:16:01 PM

    Wow. What self-deluded drivel this is. Hirsh is an intellectual in his own mind only. Anyone who associated Liberal/Conversative with intellectual/neanderthal is narrow minded indeed. There are brilliant people throughout the political spectrum, and there are those who are lacking on both sides of the aisle. Someone who has no idealogical drive (i.e. someone who this article identifies as "intellectual") = someone who also has no backbone. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe when the twin towers fell, what we really needed is more "Nuance".

    • Posted By: cpodiak @ 11/07/2008 2:31:04 PM

      When the Republican party rejected and denounced the conservative intellectuals who actually looked at McCain's campaign with a critical and thoughtful eye, that certainly reinforced the notion that Liberal/Conservative equates to intellectual/neanderthal. And yes, I agree, it was very narrow minded indeed for the Republican party to reject any attempt at intellectual discussion.

  • Posted By: Dolmance @ 11/07/2008 2:27:32 PM

    Pragmatism has it's limits in the short term, but ultimately it always wins out. For instance, in the not so distant future when Global Warming reaches such huge dimensions that starvation looms throughout the world, America could sell it's "stupids," as food for a hungry China. Anyway, it's just a thought. Peace. God Bless.

  • Posted By: abadreview @ 11/07/2008 2:05:07 PM

    Obama is the smartest of all the politicians in either party, and his Presidency will rase the bar for future administrations. Wouldn't it be weird if someday there was a Republican with a brain? I know, I know, that's a contradiction, but a boy can dream, can't he?!

    OBAMA RULES!!!

    • Posted By: DFFmd @ 11/07/2008 2:20:00 PM

      And maybe we can find a Democrat who can spell...............

  • Posted By: Omnius @ 11/07/2008 2:15:58 PM

    Excellent article Michael! One exception is that comment about Barack making a lot of inexperienced mistakes trying to not be "Ignoramous" Bush. He will not make hasty decisions and will not talk with Ahmadinejad hastily without proper preparation. I too am so happy that intellectuals are back and the fools of faith are once again in their proper place, in the gutter. I can't wait to see real science come back to the White House instead of the faith based industry propaganda that has wrecked our country over the past 8 years.

    The first thing we need to do is ban creepy creationism from being taught in science classes. No wonder our kids are so poor at science when this kind of garbage is masqueraded around as if it's science. It's nothing but faith based garbage and deserves to be put into history's garbage bin!

  • Posted By: Sane in Utah @ 11/07/2008 1:59:27 PM

    Thank the Good Lord that brains are back!

  • Posted By: eriksatie @ 11/07/2008 12:14:57 PM

    Wow, what an uptight, elitist snob...I didn't realize that we had just gone through the Dark Ages and now we are experiencing the the dawn of the Renaissance. Just because the author disagrees politically with the current Administration, he demeans himself by putting his intellectual snobbery out front for all to see. We, who are conservative, will be sent off to the Gulag for our crimes.

    • Posted By: madsally @ 11/07/2008 1:58:55 PM

      Eriksatie,

      Methinks you are also an intellectual snob, what with your screen name and throwing about of historical periods.

      A greater emphasis on strategic thinking and meticulous analysis of the facts before taking action is the primary difference the author is presenting between the current administration and the campaign of Barack Obama. But as for the people, nothing stood out to me more from this election than the blind (translate: unthinking) allegiance to McCain and Palin even in the face of evidence that they did not necessarily practiced what they preached in terms of conservative ideology. Few THINKING Republicans were able to stomach the thought of Palin being a breath away from the Oval Office, which is why so many of them defected to Obama.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/07/2008 12:23:35 PM

      Quit sniveling.

  • Posted By: clemoto @ 11/07/2008 1:54:58 PM

    I am so elated that Brains are back too. The Republicans have always run on fear to get in the White House but I am so glad that the American people finally woke up after 8 years of President Bush. I can honestly say that whenever America has a Republican President; they always trying to continue to uplift the wealthy Americans at the expense of the working class people. I am so glad that we have taken back the White House and looking forward to the leadership of President Obama to do great things for our great nation that we live in.

  • Posted By: JayMM @ 11/07/2008 1:54:00 PM

    I would also like to offer one additonal thought of caution for this author and all who feel as he does. You should carefully consider what gave rise, or at least significant ammunition, to the Bush/Neo-con power surge.

    The Conservatives expertly played on poor white working class, white middle class and religious people who quietly felt that the Politically Correct (PC) movement went too far in blaming them for all of histories ill's. The Right correctly suggested that the liberal and left-wing intelligencia inappropriately pushed certain values down these peoples throats, fanning the flames of resentment that became solid building blocks for Gingrich era conservatives and the "Republican Revolution".

    Obama appears unique, in that he does not condescend the way many traditional liberal intellectuals and Democrat pseudo-intellectuals did during the Clinton Administrations. In my opinion, this author is already dangerously close to steering down that path.

    He and you may be well advised to patiently "appreciate" values that you may not prefer, to entertain discussions without condescension, to remember that most people are not intellectuals and that you dont always know what is correct either.



  • Posted By: SusanKne @ 11/07/2008 1:51:08 PM

    I should check facts before I write anything. It's Richard Hofstadter: Anti-intellectualism In American Life if anyone wants to check it out. Refer to my comment about Nixon. Susan

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 11/07/2008 1:39:26 PM

    For what its worth ....the IMF stated that out of all the G7 nations, France , England , Germany , Italy , Canada,
    USA and Spain ....the only one out of this bunch that will barely avoid recession is Canada. The IMF forecasts Canada will enjoy just under 1% GDP growth in 2009 and there was a modest job growth last month in this country of 9,500 jobs.
    There is no multi-billion dollar bailout required for any private corporation or financial institution up here in Canada , taxes are holding steady , nobody is losing their home , mortgage payments are being met...this place must be doing something right. Hey there " Joe The Plumber " , if you feel like moving to Canada you're more than welcome.

  • Posted By: Bill Cooley @ 11/07/2008 1:01:59 PM

    Susan, I think you meant that then Senator Hruska supported Nixon's nominations of southern political Hacks G. Harold Carswell and Clement Hainesworth to the Supreme Court. Senator Hruska argued that thecourt needed mediocre members to provide it with political and ideological balance.

    • Posted By: SusanKne @ 11/07/2008 1:33:50 PM

      Didn't fact check just wrote a memory. Thank you for the actual Nixon appointments and the political implications. I wrote a paper for my course comparing Henry Steel Commanger's The American Mind and Eric Hofstander's Anti-Intellectuism. These books might have a sequel written about our current presidency beside this excellent Newsweek article. Susan

  • Posted By: Foxwilly @ 11/07/2008 1:28:58 PM

    WOW. I almost believe that I wrote this article. I have been saying such for a long time now. I am glad that stupidity is not a virtue any more in this administration.

  • Posted By: rube @ 11/07/2008 1:25:57 PM

    We can only hope that that the days of reactionary ???gut driven fist swinging
    quasi-colloquial tainted political figures are over! RIP to these anti-intellectual
    religious dogma fanatics!

    No matter what nation that extols extremism the results are the same???
    war, anarchy, intolerance- the quality of life is lost!
    We as a nation have 8 years of scares to prove it!

  • Posted By: SusanKne @ 11/07/2008 1:16:46 PM

    Thank you Bill. A bit of a senior moment for the details. Wrote the comment without fact checking. Do remember the feeling I had of disgust for Hruska and Nixon.

  • Posted By: fuzzytruthseker @ 11/07/2008 1:14:46 PM

    Besides the TransCanada pipeline project refeered to by another blogger, there is so much more that Canada has contributed, and can still contribute, to Obama's new vision for cooperative (coopetitive?) trade, finance, industrial development, and foreign relations policies. When I was a student in Canada in the 1970's, Canada had contributed the all-important robotic arm part of the spatial vehicle that first landed on the moon; many of America's finest intellectuals and Nobel prize winners are born-Canadians; Canada's highly-enlightened muticulturalism could offer a lot to refine America's own quite inclusive but recently-badly-battered multiculturalism, and Canada's highly-respected 'soft-power' approach to international relations could be the perfect template on which to model America's new foreign realtions policy, albeit with a significantly heavier dose of muscular potential -- a muscular potential that, in typical Canadian refinement, is not showy.

    Hurray for the return of brain in replacement of brawn.

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