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  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/07/2008 3:23:54 PM

    Uhh. Mike. How ''intellectual''was it to install a FANNIE MAE hack [Emmanuel] who helped oversee the ripoff of hundreds of millions while refusing any and all calls for an oversight investigation?

    How ''intellectual''is it to depend upon the reports of ''anomymous sources''within the McCain camp that Palin ''does not know that Africa is a continent'' ? I could just as easily say that you are one of Americas great jounalists. This does not make it so,however.

    Lastly,who the blazes are you to trot out this garbage that all will be ''well thought out and soberly considered''? Your plastic 8-ball needs to remind you that it is not even Inaugration Day yet,let alone 2010,2011,or 2012 that gives reams of time for Obaman screwups,messes to clean up,and out-and-out failures in the foreign and domestic sectors. Mantras from amen-choruses among the Fifth Column Fourth Estate we do not need. The DOW has fallen nearly 1000 points since Election Day,the worst drop since 1987, and Obama wants to put Mr.GLASS-STEAGALL [Bob Rubin] in the Brownie Seat. Grubby pork handprints are all over the 700 billion already. A plethora of economists[BLOOMBERG,INVESTORS,FORBES,NPR,CNBC,CREDIT-SUISSE,YALE,HARVARD,STANFORD,RUTGERS and others], says that the early moves by Obama on infrastructure to help the economy are no good. You can scribble your nonsense in minutes Mike,but it takes YEARS,to draft, and engineer,within tight state and government regulations,bridges,roads and rail systems and this is long before a backhoe blade operated by a construction worker ever hits the ground. . The unemployed,which will hit 8% and perhaps more by Obamas ushering-in,do not have that long to wait.[meanwhile,all we are getting from Congress is more pork barrel shenanagins,corruption,and internecine backbiting between the leftwinged Pelosi/Waxman camps and the Blue Dog/Dingalls that NEWSWEAK has utterly ignored].

    • Posted By: chris s. @ 11/07/2008 3:57:04 PM

      Sounds like sour grapes to me! Let's see if we can blame some of this future gloom and doom, you predict on Clinton too. Might even be slight amnesia when we recall the glorious Bush years.

      • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/07/2008 7:11:11 PM

        Nope. It is a cold reality that is being ignored by the Messiahs disciples.Hirsh among them. Unemployment has already risen one and a half points in the last two months.[setting up 8% even before the new year,let alone Obamas inauguration].
        Block grants are one idea,that has been tossed about by economists. But there are no guarantees that these will not,as in Clintons day[first term] be funneled into state coffers for individual pet projects that will in no way assist the American worker at large. The idea that Obama will immediately provide ''five million new jobs'' in the ''new technologies''is a pack of hooey,and will be among the first of his broken promises. The economy, even with ''old energy''is too crippled to sustain the regrowth needed to commence R and D,let alone opening the doors for business that would begin to employ new workers. Capital is needed,and this means more handouts. And this means a deficit that will completely dwarf that of Bushs even with two wars thrown in,and this does not even begin to address the rest that is still on the menu. Healthcare. SCHIP. Energy. Mortgages. Social Security. Trade. Infrastucture. Foreign policy . Welfare and other social entitlements. NEWSWEAK can weave its starry-eyed tales for Obama for a time. But soon enough it will have to become a news service again and take the hard road,where too many Americans already find themselves.

    • Posted By: Antson @ 11/07/2008 3:38:11 PM

      Spoken like a true Hannity Rush O'Reilly "intellectual".

      Or is that an oxymoron?

      • Posted By: DWPitts @ 11/07/2008 4:20:30 PM

        No, just a moron. No Oxy needed.

  • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 11/07/2008 6:54:00 PM

    Let us all remember that there is a difference between being stupid and being ignorant.

  • Posted By: LDKRN @ 11/07/2008 3:23:55 PM

    "Is it not better at least most of the time to have a leader that holds himself accountable to a benevolent higher power than one who doesn't?"

    No. That's the most pervasive ignorant belief of our time.

    "I could be wrong though because apparently I'm not all that bright."

    That's obvious.

    • Posted By: toby123 @ 11/07/2008 4:48:01 PM

      LDKRN, I think it's a lost cause. Can give present day examples like the Taliban, ethnic cleansing, or all the religious slaughter of medieval Christian Europe, all done by government and dictators who believed they were doing God's Will, but I'm sure Abot will provide us Bible quote or vague statement why these examples don't apply to why a president needs to think himself accountable to a higher power.

      • Posted By: DWPitts @ 11/07/2008 6:46:02 PM

        Maybe we should ask the American Talibunny to arbitrate, she seems to have a personal hotline to the higher powers? Or is she Snowbush now? I'm confused.

        I don't know either, cause I'm dumber than a bag of hammers, but the whole assertion that the leader needs the mandate of heaven to govern comes from the Dynasties of Ancient China, not the United States of America. Damn, read the constitution. Oops,forgot, I need divine assistance and an Ovaltine decoder ring for that, lol. And I'll still probably shoot my eye out.

        Sorry, carry on with all that "for grown-ups only" talk. Me and Ralphie are going outside to get medieval in the snow now. /snark

    • Posted By: Abots22 @ 11/07/2008 3:35:10 PM

      "That's the most pervasive ignorant beleif of our time." Hmm, if you were any more vague, I'd think you were Obama himself.

  • Posted By: spiveyjt @ 11/07/2008 4:16:49 PM

    So, it's considered the height of intellectualism to reason that, while the determination of when life begins is above his pay grade, the safe bet is to go ahead and act as if life doesn't begin until birth?

    The voters didn't choose reason over faith. They chose welfare over wages and abortion over behaving responsibly.

    • Posted By: buzzboyd @ 11/07/2008 4:37:03 PM

      So what about war? I chose NO on war. If life is so important to you then why don't you start with the kids who are already born. So if a terrorist is standing next to a woman and a child, it's OK to take them both out because a few in Washington have reasoned that it's OK? Or is OK because they may be Muslim? I don't get it. The height of Intellectualism is easy to attain when compared to folks who play moral handball off a street curb.

      • Posted By: spiveyjt @ 11/07/2008 4:57:22 PM

        While body count isn't necessarily the best way to weight an argument, 1.2 million a year is a few orders of magnitude greater than the war in Iraq.

        Saying NO to war is idiotic. No to a specific war is defensible (this war might qualify), but no in general could lead to a tyranny you might not enjoy.

        • Posted By: buzzboyd @ 11/07/2008 6:39:45 PM

          I suppose saying No to war is idiotic. So is expecting everyone to say No to sex. So with a bit of reasoning you might be able to work out a middle ground. And if every life is precious I would expect a better argument than a body count. You're right. I did say no to Iraq and the result was still a tyranny I did not enjoy over last 6 years. So excuse me if I feel a little better now.

  • Posted By: MsMillie @ 11/07/2008 4:25:52 PM

    This article was a tasteless attack on an honorable Republican opponent. Senator McCain is more than just "a 72-year-old cancer victim" as Mr. Hirsh's words express. He should be respected for his courage as a POW, cancer survivor, and public servant.

    Mr. Hirsh calls for hopes of a brighter future for America, a goal that we can all hope to attain. Ironically, he fails to realize that articles like his own will only make the journey ahead even more difficult by instilling such crude thought into the minds of readers. How un-intellectual.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/07/2008 5:00:44 PM

      "This article was a tasteless attack on an honorable Republican opponent."

      What's so honorable about him? There was no blow too low for McCain during the election. No sleazy dig too cheap for him. And that coming from the man who promised a civil race.

      • Posted By: Hannah B @ 11/07/2008 6:16:25 PM

        Don't forget no lie/aspersion to big to attribute to or repeat ad nauseum about him.

  • Posted By: Clint2727 @ 11/07/2008 3:50:14 PM

    I believe what he means as "anti-intellectualism" is the portion of the Republican Party that panders to the vast number of truly stupid people in this country. The Bush administration has attempted to deceive the public into seeing them as champions of the ordinary people and egalitarianism against elitism, especially academic elitism. I don't think all Republicans are stupid or bad people, in fact, I believe in some of the things the party used to stand for (smaller government, lower taxes, fiscal responsibility). It's their social policies (banning gay marriage, opposition to women's rights, opposition to civil rights) that I just can't get on board with. The Republican Party has been hijacked by the religious right, and those are the ones that really scare me.

    • Posted By: chris s. @ 11/07/2008 4:24:40 PM

      It really isn't so much that the Bush administration wasn't bright, It's that they thought we were dumb and treated the American people accordingly. I, for one find it refreshing to have a leader who is not only smart, but just might act as if he thought I was fairly bright too. Just sick of being talked down to.

      • Posted By: Clint2727 @ 11/07/2008 5:57:03 PM

        Couldn't agree more. I don't believe Bush or any of his advisers are actually stupid. I think they have made very bad choices based on idealogical or monetary interests. Bush isn't stupid, but I do think he is dishonest and was in way over his head from the start.

  • Posted By: Dunatos @ 11/07/2008 4:51:19 PM

    I find it ironic that Mr. Hirsh celebrates the "end of anti-intellectualism" by writing a poorly researched editorial full of discredited rumors and innuendos. I can appreciate a well-written opinion piece even if it comes from a perspective that differs from mine, but I am appalled that this shamelessly adolescent love letter to Mr. Obama made it onto the website of a respected news magazine. I suppose that next Hirsh will be offering to carry Barack???s books home from school or be sitting by the phone waiting for Barack to call and invite him to the big dance. I mean seriously, is Hirsh vying for a spot as White House press secretary?

    • Posted By: olderwiser @ 11/07/2008 5:51:56 PM

      Well, Dunatos, the title and the headnote alone are eloquent. I think that "proud incuriosity", "anti-intellectualism" and, "Brains are back", are all really in point concerning the crappy last eight years of governance from the White House. And what do you have against the condemnation of the truly silly flag lapel pins as some measure of patriotism, and the simple minded criticism during the campaign of those who didn't wear them. Patriotism is first a state of mind, and second it is serving the country when needed. For all we know, Mohammed Atta wore a flag pin on his clothing to look patriotic as he boarded his last airplane and he was just about as far from patriotism as we can conceive. The flag lapel pin means just about diddly crap when it comes to true merit. I am patriotic as hell and I've served my country in my share of the military, and none of it required the juvenile accoutrements that so many seem to now require in order to "belong". Your man lost the election. Mine have lost in the past. We all adjust in time to the new situation. I wish you the best of luck in your days to come and I sincerely hope that your disappointment will diminish as time goes forward. It was a brutal campaign and we all got our bruises. Long live the democracy.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 11/07/2008 5:02:03 PM

      That was weak. Why even blog if you don't understand the topic? McCain lost the election because the mighty-right, non-intellectual, science-hating, gun-loving zealots are decreasing in size and power. All you have to do is read some of these blogs to feel the desperation in their words. When politicians and their followers are reduced to creating conflict - they spend little time to understand facts or issues. Hence, few ideas get discussed. E.g., it's more important to you to crack on carrying books or assigning buddy-duties than to attempt top glean what the new president might do - without some form of prejudiced. To bad for you.

      • Posted By: Dunatos @ 11/07/2008 5:15:05 PM

        Good heavens! What a clever rebuttal! Your mommy must be so proud. Did you even read my post?

        • Posted By: BrooklynGal @ 11/07/2008 5:33:12 PM

          Funny you should mention proud mommies because we're extremely proud of yours. She stood with 99.9% of the globe in support of Obama. Talk about a schoolgirl crush.....her infatuation with Obama is embarrassing but we welcome ex-dildoheads...err ex-dittoheads just like we're going to wholeheartedly welcome moderate republicans who apparently are getting the boot from the small rent repuglican party.

      • Posted By: fleepwood @ 11/07/2008 5:07:47 PM

        Speaking of press secretary's...remember this White House Press Secretary?
        The criticism of Bush in the book is striking, given that it comes from a man who followed him to Washington from Texas.

        Bush is depicted as an out-of-touch leader, operating in a political bubble, who has stubbornly refused to admit mistakes. McClellan defends the president's intellect -- "Bush is plenty smart enough to be president," he writes -- but casts him as unwilling or unable to be reflective about his job.

        "A more self-confident executive would be willing to acknowledge failure, to trust people's ability to forgive those who seek redemption for mistakes and show a readiness to change," he writes.

        In another section, McClellan describes Bush as able to convince himself of his own spin and relates a phone call he overheard Bush having during the 2000 campaign, in which he said he could not remember whether he had used cocaine. "I remember thinking to myself, 'How can that be?' " he writes.

        The former aide describes Bush as a willing participant in treating his presidency as a permanent political campaign, run in large part by his top political adviser, Rove.

        .

        "A more self-confident executive would be willing to acknowledge failure, to trust people's ability to forgive those who seek redemption for mistakes and show a readiness to change," he writes.

        In another section, McClellan describes Bush as able to convince himself of his own spin and relates a phone call he overheard Bush having during the 2000 campaign, in which he said he could not remember whether he had used cocaine. "I remember thinking to myself, 'How can that be?' " he writes.

        The former aide describes Bush as a willing participant in treating his presidency as a permanent political campaign, run in large part by his top political adviser, Rove.

  • Posted By: octave @ 11/07/2008 2:30:14 PM

    What a piece of garbage. Yes there were a lot of things wrong with the Bush Presidency, but to say that being smart is a great virtue is way over kill. There are a lot of smart people with no common sense, and vice versa. Obama has shown a great gift to speak. That is all. The only thing that matters is action. I hope he does well ,but lets get real. He is just a mortal human being like the rest of us. We need someone who will take decisive action on thinga that come up, not sit around and talk everthing to death

    • Posted By: cpodiak @ 11/07/2008 2:34:42 PM

      Good point! Okay, you've convinced me with your eloquent and persuasive argument. Intelligence is a terrible quality. Being smart is totally stupid, and being stupid is actually smart. Oh wait, that's philosophy only works for people who are...wait for it...not smart.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/07/2008 2:42:33 PM

      "What a piece of garbage. Yes there were a lot of things wrong with the Bush Presidency, but to say that being smart is a great virtue is way over kill."

      Um, yes of course. Being stupid is far better.

      Right?

    • Posted By: JC0101 @ 11/07/2008 2:41:43 PM

      If you don't have common sense, you're not smart. But, yes, you can be an intellectual and be wrong in your thinking. But if I had to choose between an intellectual and someone who thought Africa was a country, I would choose the former.

  • Posted By: Ron Paul For Pope @ 11/07/2008 5:18:50 PM

    After the apocalyptically stupid past eight years, my dog would be an intellectual step up from the Current Occupant of the White House.

    Nevertheless, it's heartening to know that the American electorate that put him there has (at least temporarily) regained its senses, and consciously chose his exact opposite as his successor.

    I guess a measure of Obama's success as President will be how much and how quickly people become enamored of stupid ideas again. After Clinton fixed the economy in the 90's, people decided that "more conservatism" was the answer. Well, I'll bet that they won't have learned anything this time, either.

  • Posted By: rbmwow @ 11/07/2008 2:34:33 PM

    You do realize, Michael, that saying the Bush Administration was "anti-intellectual" is just as ignorant as saying that Obama is the anti-christ?
    George W. Bush was elected president, after going to Yale and having a 4.0.
    You write for Newsweek, probably one of the most Leftist publication I've read in a while.
    Please do not critisize a past administration if you can not do better.

    • Posted By: chris s. @ 11/07/2008 5:16:41 PM

      Bush was a low "C" student and you wanted to replace him with McCain, a "D" student. However, by his own admission, he was the leader of the troublemakers. Write back when you learn to spell criticize or is that too elite for you?

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/07/2008 2:41:52 PM

      " You do realize, Michael, that saying the Bush Administration was "anti-intellectual" is just as ignorant as saying that Obama is the anti-christ?"

      Rubbish. Bush is proud to be an anti-intellectual.

      • Posted By: fleepwood @ 11/07/2008 2:47:38 PM

        Bush was a "C" student at Yale. You fail!
        http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/benedetto/2005-06-10-benedetto_x.htm

  • Posted By: LDKRN @ 11/07/2008 3:21:18 PM

    "Intellectualism != knee-jerk, relativist, liberalism."

    I've long been curious as to why the stupid and poor despite the smart but love the rich so much. Then it hit me-anyone in this country with a unique talent CAN be rich, no matter what type of idiot they may be-ala Manny Ramirez or any number of megabucks winners. No matter what your financial circumstances presently, being wealthy is never unachievable.

    But an idiot can never, ever be smart. And that eats these people alive.

    Jealousy, thy name is lancegutzman, and everyone out there like him.

    • Posted By: jaydfox @ 11/07/2008 4:20:01 PM

      "Comment: "Intellectualism != knee-jerk, relativist, liberalism."

      I've long been curious as to why the stupid and poor despite the smart but love the rich so much. ...

      But an idiot can never, ever be smart. And that eats these people alive.

      Jealousy, thy name is lancegutzman, and everyone out there like him. "

      Um, since I've already noticed a couple posts in reply to lancegutzman's post, I should point out that the exclamation mark in front of the equal sign means NOT. In other words, he said:
      "Intellectualism does not equal knee-jerk, relativist, liberalism."

      So, um, give the guy a break. Unless you think intellectualism really is knee-jerk, relativist, liberalism; then comment away.

      • Posted By: lancegutzman @ 11/07/2008 5:16:10 PM

        Thanks! I suppose I should have said " !== "

    • Posted By: lancegutzman @ 11/07/2008 5:11:35 PM

      Thanks for sharing that semi-coherent litany of baseless assumptions regarding my intellectual capacity, level of income, personal motivations, and social affinities. In reading your non-sequitur "reply," I realized that we have curiousity in common. I'm curious as to how generation after generation of affluent or otherwise priveleged dimwits can delude itself into thinking that eight years and a bundle of mumsy's cash spent on espresso and liberal arts classes will, or even should, carry much weight with people who either prefer or have no choice but to actually work for a living. It's also curious, I think, that so many "smart" people would proudly claim adherance to an ideology championing the "common man," but be so completely incapable of masking their contempt for just such men. I'm curious as to the source of your hostility. Is it really he dirty fingernails and stubborn refusal to acquiesce that make you "rich smart people" so angry with us "poor and stupid people," or are anger and perjorative just more palatable and familiar than introspection? That would be curious, what with self-awareness being a requisite to intellect, and all. But of course, you know that. (And better than I, no doubt.)

    • Posted By: ClassicGirl79 @ 11/07/2008 4:02:58 PM

      WELL SAID! Bravo!

  • Posted By: bigkat13 @ 11/07/2008 2:58:11 PM

    This is the problem with liberals. They think that the only position is theirs and everyone who doesn't see it their way is "anti-intellectual". After the dust has settled in Mr. Obama's presidency we will once again see someone who promised everything and does the opposite. He will give the people on welfare everything, and take from the people who have worked hard for everything they have. Democracy my ass.

    • Posted By: Hannah B @ 11/07/2008 5:07:14 PM

      And the problem with conservatives is they think that the only position is theirs and everyone who doesn't see it their was in "unpatriotic." Now that the dust is settling in the Bush/Cheney administration we have found that the decider was truly a divider not a uniter. They made sure that ALL fellow Repubs were locked in goosestep and thought with only one brain. Dissention was not tolerated or allowed. Bush gave all of the oil industry; Haliburton; loyal Bushies; rich; etc, etc. etc everything he could take from the middle class and poor. Democracy MY ass!

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/07/2008 3:43:01 PM

      "This is the problem with liberals. They think that the only position is theirs and everyone who doesn't see it their way is "anti-intellectual". "

      Naw. Just the hard core Bushies...who admire a man who brags about "thinking with his gut".

      • Posted By: chris s. @ 11/07/2008 4:56:50 PM

        Lest we forget, he looked into Putin's soul.

    • Posted By: sonnic34 @ 11/07/2008 2:59:55 PM

      Well said!!!

  • Posted By: Dave in NM @ 11/07/2008 2:51:18 PM

    It's this quote that gives me pause: "the politics of ideological rigidity, religious zealotry and anti-intellectualism???'has for the moment played itself out...'" The emphasis in my mind is on "for the moment." Yes - Sen. Obama's victory was decisive - itself a welcome development - but the forces of hate and stupidity are far from vanquished. There is still an awful lot of red on the map. Let's just hope that once President Obama (OH how I love saying that!!) has proven that he has the goods to deliver on his promises, these people wake up enough to reconsider their positions, admit they were wrong, and move toward fully restoring this nation's greatness.

    • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 11/07/2008 3:07:47 PM

      Dreaming is free - if they couldn't see through all untruths about Obama prior to the election, I hardly think they will "admit" they were wrong.

      • Posted By: chris s. @ 11/07/2008 5:04:48 PM

        Anybody ready yet to admit that, just maybe, Bush and company were wrong? Didn't think so!

      • Posted By: stematwork @ 11/07/2008 3:24:06 PM

        my favorite hypocrisy is this:
        when the right is in power, dissenting is "patriotism"
        when the left is in power, dissenting is divisive. "it's time to heal our partisan divide"

        i guess that's you're definition of nuance

        • Posted By: Hannah B @ 11/07/2008 4:53:56 PM

          When the right is (soon to be was) in power, dissenting is/was UNPATRIOTIC. When the left is soon to be IN power, anticipatory kvetching IS divisive.
          Let's settle down a bit; the election was but 3 days ago; Obama won't be coming into the office for 70+ days. Pehaps we should ALL wait awhile to see if or about what we have to kvetch.

    • Posted By: tbourlon @ 11/07/2008 4:33:08 PM

      Yes, there is still an awful lot of Red on the map - and I suspect that the next election may see some of the New Blue states swing back to Red. There's a difference between admitting that Bush was a terrible leader (therefore not wanting more of the same) and completely changing your mind about everything you believe in. I fear Obama will be way too lefty liberal and will damage our country in the other direction, like Carter did. In fact, this whole situation reminds me of when Carter got elected - disgraced president, troubled economy, unpopular war, and a total wet-behind-the-ears newcomer as President. Believe me, I hope I'm wrong, I really do. But even the author is prepared, just in case I'm right.

  • Posted By: katie'smom @ 11/07/2008 4:34:08 PM

    You Mr. Hirsh are a smug and arrogant SOB. While I didn't vote for Mr. Obama I will not spend the next 4 (or 8) years lamenting Mr. McCain's loss. I will not tear down Mr. Obama at every opportunity. I will not belittle him or dig deep for things in his past to use against him. I will not degrade his name to any foreigner who will listen. I will give him my support during this difficult time. I hope and wish he will succeed for all of our sakes. If he does succeed I might consider voting for him in four years. You see Mr. Hirsch, I am an American and you - well, I am not sure what you are.

    • Posted By: WeisWulf @ 11/07/2008 4:49:08 PM

      Mr. Hirsh doesn't impress me as a smug and arrogant SOB, nor particularlly commenting on Mr. McCain in this article. I think he is commenting, with a voice of reason and relief ,on the smug and arrogant SOBs in the last administration who have caused so much harm to so many over the last eight years. And as for the rest of what you said, if you supported the Republican party and cadidate, you then either supported or overlooked the tearing-down and degrading Mr. Obama at every opportunity during the campaign.

      • Posted By: katie'smom @ 11/07/2008 5:04:30 PM

        Let's not bother going there - both sides are guilty of tearing the other one down. And don't forget how much Hillary did the same to Mr. Obama. That is the unfortunate nature of political campaigns and I don't relish it. I voted the way I did because I don't necessarily think his ideas for solving our problems are the correct ones but unlike the last 8 years of whining sore losers - I am not going to go there. I will reiterate what I said - I truly hope he does solve our problems and I will not be prideful - he will get my vote in 2012 if his methods prove fruitful. I am just tired of the constant railing on republicans as being stupid and anti-intellectual. It is childish and unproductive. So - can we move on now already?

  • Posted By: Baleboz @ 11/07/2008 2:52:31 PM

    I'm not through!!! Just remembered another bit of history. When Clinton, Democratic Congress and Company over-reached from 1992 to 1994, the American people saw them for what they were. Out of touch with mainstream American and elitist. Go ahead Obama, Democratic Congress and Conpany: PLEEEEAAASEE
    do what you do best. That's right! Over-reach by governing from the left and we'll be glad to have Congress back!!!!!!!! Well........come on! Go ahead!!!!! Make my day!!!!!!

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/07/2008 5:03:43 PM

      Excitable, aren't you?

    • Posted By: chris s. @ 11/07/2008 5:02:29 PM

      Oh, but yes ,indeed, you are through! You just don't know it yet!

  • Posted By: Joe Falcone @ 11/07/2008 2:53:43 PM

    Unbelievable garbage here: you mean the "inteeligent" Democratic party proponents that consists primarily of : Liberally brainwashed and naive college "kids", academically credentialed, yet bereft of real world smarts and common sense? Or maybe that large welfare group of minorities and crack mothers who lives from govt. handout to govt. handout? Perhaps the illegal immigrants and migrant workers who are incapable of learning English? Or could it be those liberal leaning union workers who place seniority above self education and performance? What about those who choose to milk their disability and unemployment claims? Yeah they love Obama too! Criminals and felons also tend to vote Democratic...yeah, there's real smarts in that group. Or finally the naive, gullible masses that had to be signed up and dragged by the busload to their voting precincts.

    Yes, Mr. Hirsch...you really have a lot of Rhodes Scholars and Pulitzer prize winners in that Democratic base. I'm really jealous of this groups "superior intellect". Get over yourself.

    • Posted By: fleepwood @ 11/07/2008 3:13:33 PM

      Why do Republicans always blame the poor and working class. I guarantee you that Wall Street and corporate America has cheated more out of the US than anyone on unemployment or in a Union. Companies have milked tax exemptions and taken tax breaks for moving over seas. So what about corporate welfare that doesn't benefit the US?

      • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/07/2008 5:03:20 PM

        "Why do Republicans always blame the poor and working class."

        Because they're an easy target.

    • Posted By: Hannah B @ 11/07/2008 4:59:07 PM

      WOW!! Perhaps you should take a very deep breath, calm down and eat some fiber before you and this tizzy of yours bring on a heartattack.

    • Posted By: cpodiak @ 11/07/2008 3:46:45 PM

      And it's the "elitist" Democrats who are supposed to be snobs? Wow. Oh and by the way, maybe you should work on your own English skills before making derogatory remarks about immigrants.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/07/2008 3:43:47 PM

      " Unbelievable garbage here: you mean the "inteeligent" Democratic party proponents that consists primarily of : Liberally brainwashed and naive college "kids", academically credentialed, yet bereft of real world smarts and common sense?"

      By "common sense", I assume you mean the failed ideology of the GOP?

  • Posted By: justanothervet @ 11/07/2008 3:11:21 PM

    Hmmm "leader who values nuance and careful thought" dah duh huh you are referring to Obama - I guess.I will never salute him and pledge to the flAg in his presence. Obama is not my president.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/07/2008 5:02:27 PM

      So you hate democracy unless your side wins?

      Nice.

    • Posted By: chris s. @ 11/07/2008 4:51:03 PM

      Then you are not an American. No self respecting real veteran would ever say that they would not salute the flag because they don't like the president. Bet you are one of those who bashed Obama for forgetting to wear his flag pin or helped spread the rumor that he doesn't salute the flag. Sorry for your bitterness. You'll be watching very closely to see if he takes the oath on the Bible , right? Yet, you won't salute the flag, hypocrite!

    • Posted By: DWPitts @ 11/07/2008 4:19:09 PM

      Because why? Because you believe he is a socialist?

      Have you ever recited the Pledge of Allegiance? Do you believe those words to be true? Did you know the pledge was written by, OMG, an American socialist named Francis Bellamy. Does that make you a socialist, too, seeing how you have been pledging allegiance with words written by a socialist?

      OMG, the irony of it all.

    • Posted By: ClassicGirl79 @ 11/07/2008 3:58:22 PM

      Really? You won't pledge the flag in the presence of the next POTUS, nor will you salute him?

      Wow. What an idiot. Anti-intellectualism is one thing, but if you really are a veteran (of the armed forces, I mean, as opposed to just, say, a veteran of an extended adolescence), you take the cake. What kind of moron do you have to be to offer yourself up as a potential human sacrifice for your country when you have such obvious disregard for everything that makes it what it is? You'll take a proverbial bullet for a country but won't salute its flag because you don't like the way the political winds are blowing?

      YOU STAY CLASSY, justanothervet!

  • Posted By: tyrgarrett @ 11/07/2008 4:44:25 PM

    You are an intellectual moron if you even believe 1/10 of this article. The ideals you speak of are only worked out to half of their logical end. Further more you site unsubstantiated facts about Obama's election opponents. I feel the entire article is not very becoming of someone who works for a major news source to be so far off base from reality. You are also probably one of those people who went around saying "Bush isn't my president..." yet now with a very close general population vote count will expect everyone who doesn't agree with Obama to get on board. It never ceases to amaze me how if you don't agree with someone or their ideals, you refuse to tolerate them, and sink to the level of name calling. In this article you careful call any and all who may think that you are off base stupid, by insisting that only smart people know that the last eight years have been defined by anti-intellectualism. It is a great achievement for Pres elect Obama for sure and I commend him as much as anyone and truly hope he experiences success for the sake of our country. But it is a sad day when someone like President Bush is ridiculed to the point of calling him stupid
    (which he clearly is smarter than you are, why aren't you president?) for governing from a point of character rather than popularity polls.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/07/2008 4:57:57 PM

      "which he clearly is smarter than you are, why aren't you president?"

      By that standard, Paris Hilton is smarter than you. Why aren't you rich?

  • Posted By: sonnic34 @ 11/07/2008 2:59:09 PM

    Hopefully, while we are "thinking" about how to best handle our enemies in the world, they don't come over here and attack us on our own soil.

    • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 11/07/2008 3:22:11 PM

      There is NOTHING stopping them from coming over here now, and there hasn't been anything to stop them in the last 7-8 years. Just because we are in Iraq/Afghanistan, doesn't mean they can't get over here. Don't be ridiculous.

  • Posted By: mickeyd @ 11/07/2008 3:07:41 PM

    I love the fact that the article says brains are back, but then posts a disclaimer about how "he'll probably screw up a lot." Yeah he will "screw up a lot" because he is wrong on nearly every issue that means anything or that the government should be involved in. This is insulting garbage.

    • Posted By: chris s. @ 11/07/2008 4:53:03 PM

      So glad you're rooting for him.

    • Posted By: Joe Falcone @ 11/07/2008 3:19:48 PM

      Prairie Pranskter: You may be intelligent but you're as naive and gullible as the group of "intellectual" Democrats I chronicled below. You vote against a party while ignoring what you're voting FOR, which is, an unvetted, slick talking snake oil salesman who offered nothing new, has a riduculous assortment of anti-American associations throughout his entire life (oh yeah...that's just a "coincidence") My point was not to "offer" you anything, I'm sorry to disappoint. My point was to illustrate the lunacy of this article's premise.

      • Posted By: DWPitts @ 11/07/2008 4:10:46 PM

        But I thought McCain lost?

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