Detroit: Begging For Help

We either save our own automakers or we give up. Let the Republican idealogy prevail ( except for Wall Street of course) and let the middle class finally fail. That has been the goal of Republicans ever since the days of the Robber Barons. As you make everyone too poor to fight, you make the rich stronger. Force the middle class into poverty and you get obedience and order. Give them a little too much money and you get rebellion.Let the ones who have the most and know the best rule our country with their superior knowledge. It worked throughout history until an upstart nation called America broke the mold. We do not need a middle class anymore because the upper class has learned to rule with wisdom, mercy and tolerance. Why worry about history? Go broke, lose your job and your house and your dignity; but be happy the upper class will still be on your side. They will help you fail and be the first to explain your failure as a moral or class issue. America works best when the workers know their place. The middle class was a mistake and poverty and obedience are the only solution. Let the rightful rulers rule; let the sheep be sheared. Capitalism is not for the faint of heart.

I'm unemployed. The interior design business is down in the dumps. Seems no one's willing to fork out the bucks for refurbishing their nests. Instead they're just paying the note on their luxury SUVs and sighing over their marble countertops with a glass of wine chilled in their stainless steel wine vaults. Ah, poor automakers, eh. They're hard scrabbling to get their piece of parsimonious pie. Yeah, people will be laid off at an SUV plant. Truly, I'm sorry. But, c'mon, SUVs was the beginning the of problem: lack of foresight. This is the catalytic converter that the Big 3 have neglected to parse. Now the smell of federal bailout is perking them up and they want to drink deeply of its restorative power. Well, enough, I say. They've done it to themselves. It's time the auto industry goes on a diet. They use the threat of layoffs as a bargaining chip but the truth is those that are slated for removal will get no reprieve. And when they get the money it will necessitate even more retooling of its bloated human resources. So those nail biters might as well keep nibbling away at their keratinous materiel because they're jobs are in the can. The big 3's problems are about fat and gristle. The lean, mean machines that coulda, shoulda, woulda saved them were always years away from becoming reality. Now they've got to shape up. I guarantee they will not. Old habits die hard. And so, too, will the workers and the economy.

Capitalism needs a new culture in America,Role of the bank must be calculated risk pays dividends,surely Obama must regulate the needs to reassess how much risk each investment made by fanancial industry .In investment instrument Obama should also encompass the money men should go back doing their job.Obama definetely knows that to ask or force the industry to retreat from new but prudent,calculated risk will weaken it and narrow the horizon Capital.

How do you have better alternatives? Bail out and Bail out one after another failing sector? ....Its dangerous .the Public goes burst by this time.Do have any Ideas where does come 700 Billion bailout money come from? US Senate doesn't even have even 100 billion at hand.

to jack999, it seems by your comment that you probably have a job that requires an extensive amount of education and you probably make a good paycheck. (allthough you don't seem to be able to put your thoughts into a understandable comment)
So, keep this in mind, not everyone has the mental capability to be a rocket scientist, everyone is different and so in your scenario, what happens to those who can't grasp today's technology, either they become politicans or go on wellfare?
These so called low value jobs as you call them have a place in this economy, you want to put all our apples in one basket, what happens when the high tec sector becomes saturated, there needs to be a ballance of job availability, the high tec sector will always make more money than the blue collar sector, but the blue collar people should not be dismissed, you might think lowly of them but they earn their wage in the form of physically doing things you may find beneath you.

to jack999, it looks to me like your a foreigner trying to speak english, why don't you write something that makes sense?

to jack999, it looks to me like your a foreigner trying to speak english, why don't you write something that makes sense?

American needs to be Pragmatic to Solve Problems.The main Question are the Americans really Prepared?

America must Stop protecting this Low -Value Jobs sector and stop paying the American the wrong High-Pay for Low value Jobs.

Its much economical and with great logic to get these cheaper cost Workers from Mexico,India,China etc to compete and make cheaper cars with less in America , these are Low-Value Sectors Americans are doing now.Are Americans rather lets this compnay totally Bankrupt or SHIPOUT the whole auto sector to Overseas?.With This Options,this create a economy boots to US and the State like michigan,..Just Images 2 Million of these Workers RENT trouble housing in Michigan?What type of Hype this workers can creates to jumpstart the economy or others business ike Food,clothing,etc in the area.Are American be prepare to aceepts these influx of Social change within them?

Provides them with the Employement Pass .The Government can Collects LEVY Taxes Let say minimum US500 per worker .How much does USA government made If US500 px x 2 million in a Month,with bomming surrounding for the community business.You're killing two birds with a single stone with my proposal.

Transfer and Training all American Workers from This auto-industry employees for Higher -Tech Jobs with good pay like silicon Wafer plant..etc....this is Quality worker we talking talking about higly specialist....Not Just making Car....please Dont TOYING with any bad ideas with my suggestions thats good for America..

Before Detroit???s Big Three get a dime from taxpayers, the heads of those companies should all be fired. They have failed miserably, which has been evident long before the credit meltdown or the recession. Giving them a bailout just sends good money after bad. Why give them money to keep doing what has been failing for many years?

Barack Obama has to overturn this America Economy Swiftly.Around.

America must Stop protecting this :Low -Value Jobs sector and stop paying the American the wrong High-Pay for Low value Jobs.
Its much economical and with great logic to get these Workers from Mexico,India,China etc to do these Low-Value Sectors.rather then totally SHIPOUT the whole auto sector to Overseas.This much Options,this create a economy boots to the State like michigan,..Just Images 2 Million of these Workers RENTING fALL or trouble housing in Michigan?What a Hype this workers can creates jumpstart the economy or others lbusiness ike Food,etc in the area.American must aceepts and prepare the influx of Social change.
Provides them with the Employement Pass .Government can Collects LEVY Taxes US500 per workers .How much USA government make If US500 px x 2 million in a Month,plus other benefits? Imagine!!!!1

Transfer all American Workers from This auto-industry employees for Higher -Tech Jobs like silicon Wafer plant..etc....

You've got to be kidding me. They have been closing plants and sending the jobs overseas or outsourcing to mom and pop shops that pay just above the minimum wage and now they are asking those same people to basically help bail them out? If the big thing is the global economy then let the auto companies go global in their groveling for money. Let them ask Brazil and Mexico for money since they have opened plants up there. If they "go under" doesn't that mean that those plants would close as well and all of those people would lose those fine $5.00 a day jobs?? They threaten plant closings unless they get money? They only that will change is that they will get money, the plants will still close. If Congress approves this loan then they are bigger idiots that most of us think they are. Any more bailouts, then the members of congress has to give up any money donated to them by the auto industry and give it to the "kitty" to pay for the bailout. See if they like it then!!

You have got to be kidding me!! Why don't the Automakers ask Mexico and Brazil for money since that's where they are sending the jobs!! They threaten plant closings? They have been closing plants for years and sending the jobs overseas. If the big thing is for a global economy, then let the auto companies go global in their groveling for money. No taxpayers money for them, period. They burn the middle class by closing plants and sending the jobs overseas or outsource jobs to shops that pay their people just above minimum wage and now they want those same people to basically bail them out? If our government falls for that, then they are bigger idiots that what most of us think they are.

No sympathy here. My late wife worked in the acct. dept of many dealerships over the course of 25 yrs and the unmitigated greed of upper management and ownership was truly breathtaking. Their main drive was to make sure they got their monthly bonuses and the hell with the customer and lower level employees. They deserve the grief that is being visited upon them now as well as their bosses in Detroit.

When I bought my first house I decided to replace a floor in a hallway. As I removed the top flooring I discovered that the wood beneath had been destroyed by termites.

Did I add more good wood to the bad wood? NO!



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Saving Detroit/Stimulating the Economy

It's been all over the news, putting money into Detroit for the auto industry, trying to save it and help it convert to more hybrid production. Probably preferred stock or warrants.

OK - here's the benefit for the whole economy now.

How old are the fleet vehicles in the federal government? Why not place an order to buy all new hybrids from Detroit now - and let the states buy off that contract too through GSA - even give them the money as a stimulus to do it too, letting them save local tax dollars to avoid budget cuts.

So, invest in Detroit to convert it, buy all new vehicles and give Detroit some profit, all the vehicles are green, the public's investment gets paid back, and states get stimulated too.

Dave Bail
Corinth, KY