THE ROAD TO THE INAUGURATION

Holding Pattern

Relax, Obama—foreign policy's stalled at the moment.

By John Barry | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Nov 9, 2008 | Updated: 10:41  a.m. ET Nov 9, 2008

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  • Posted By: Doc HowI @ 11/22/2008 12:15:08 PM

    Obama will fix everything by taxing us into prosperity. The world's rich and producers will flock to America to pay our higher corporate income taxes and our immense income tax rates. Everyone will love America again because we are going to cut the military budget 25% in the first year making overseas bases not financially viable and our ugly babykilling Military will finally be put in its place!! Gobama!

  • Posted By: tiredoflies @ 11/14/2008 5:03:55 PM

    While Obama is in a holding pattern, the Bush Administration is pillaging America transferring as much wealth as possible to Wall Street.

    I hope you ignorant republicans who elected Bush for his second term are happy because you share direct responsibility in the current financial meltdown.

    I' am certain however you will try to pass the blame elsewhere.

    Sorry, it wont wash. Bushes second term and the republicans are what got us here. Period.

    • Posted By: varacefan @ 11/18/2008 4:54:30 PM

      Oh, I almost forgot. Chenney was at VMI just a week or so before the game. That proves it!!

    • Posted By: varacefan @ 11/18/2008 4:50:57 PM

      I agree and I am also pissed that VMI beat Kentucky last week in basketball. You can't tell me Bush didn't have something to do with that! I mean VMI is a military school!!

    • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/14/2008 6:23:34 PM

      Passing the buck will not cut it. Even leftwingers [DAILY KOS,MOTHER JONES,AMERICAN PROSPECT,MOVEON,TRUTHOUT,DEMOCRATICUNDERGROUND] are horrified at Obamas economic picks of Robert Rubin and Jim Lynch,the destroyers of the GLASS-STEAGALL Act,which brought about a huge portion of this current trouble. Then too,why would an agent of ''change''cram into his administration a posse of FANNIE MAE hacks who were also responsible for the meltdown including his own Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel?[ and yes,yet another Tony Rezko crony,this one in the person of Valerie Jarrett]. You forget a rather basic,rather factual point. The only ones who contested this bailout with any cohesion were Republicans. Particularly those in the House. Yet your leaders were saying all along from Day One that the bailout must go through. Even as it was to be cut up among Wall St. banks and lending institutions.[let alone union hacks in Detroit].

  • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/14/2008 1:31:31 PM

    Whatever happened to concernedcanadian? Would sure like to go over his outlandish predictions. Kinda faded away I guess...

  • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 11/14/2008 12:32:50 PM

    Political Two Party Realities:

    There are totally valid Republican philosophies: i.e., the least amount of government is the best government; and government should only do what the people can???t do for themselves. Inherent in those philosophies are many important responsibilities which history tells us the Democrats are better at meeting: i.e., protecting the vulnerable majority against exploitation by the powerful few; and insuring fair and equitable opportunity for all.

    Obvious responsibilities include: National Defense, Law Enforcement, Education, Social Security, Medicare, Homeland Security,,,
    Currently neglected responsibilities: Infrastructure, Transportation, Global Warming, Energy, Fiscal Responsibility, Medical Costs, Responsible use of Military, Necessary Regulation and Control of Financial Industry, Needed Limits and Enforcement in Politics,,,

    The Bush admin is a vivid example of an irresponsible and self-serving government with their total focus on benefit for Special Interests and a select few (who return both overt and covert support, political contributions and even promised compensation for after leaving office) while giving only apathy, the costs and an abundance of subterfuge to the average American.

    Both parties are really capable of doing better and the voters need to demand that they do, without accepting their deceptive rhetoric aimed at manipulating public opinion through individual interests!

  • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/13/2008 5:59:27 PM

    Please tell me that the GOP party of hate has someone left besides an imbecile named Lee the idiot Holmes to stand up for it. If this is all they've got , it's game, set, match!

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/14/2008 1:59:14 PM

      While I don't share a lot of views with Lee, he is at least on the blog and provides more than one liners. He doesn't stick his head in like some of these people on here and say some really outlandishly ignorant thing and disappear.

      I am not defending his views here, he can do that. I am just defending his right to have them. He is part of the discussion, and generally does not go to personal attacks.

      If he wasn't here we would not have anything to discuss, because many of the kookie people that throw a rock at your from a distance and disapear provide no meat for discussion, they are not reaslly relevent.

    • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/13/2008 9:25:05 PM

      Pot,meet kettle.

  • Posted By: neocon @ 11/13/2008 3:58:02 PM

    I???ve been reading about this Obama/Biden Transition Project,??? it is a 501(c)4 tax-exempt organization, with no limits on the contributions it can receive and no requirements to divulge the names of individuals or organizations that give it money. They have stated that it will remain throughout Obamas term. This will be a huge sum of unregulated money to fund groups like ACORN. There are also many who helped Obama???s campaign that won???t be able to pass security clearances whom they will pay out of this fund. There will be billions coming in from foreign governments, drug cartels and people like George Soros. A 501(c)4 may be legal but it certainly isn???t ethical.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/14/2008 4:29:50 PM

      "A 501(c)4 may be legal but it certainly isn???t ethical."

      How is it not ethical? And why didn't "legal but not ethical" concern you with regard to Palin?

      Oh, yeah. Because this is just another partisan, hypocitical rant.

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/14/2008 2:00:50 PM

      Glad you brought that to our attention, thanks...

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/13/2008 5:53:03 PM

      Feeble!

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 11/13/2008 10:43:17 AM

    What ever Democrate leaves White -House ,they leaves the Country with High -Note Surplus,When ever Republican Leaves White-House they Bankrupt the Country.
    Americans all FED-UP as far they concern....GOP are HISTORY.

    • Posted By: Doc HowI @ 11/22/2008 12:19:57 PM

      Jack999 well that isnt true but I agree that GOP is History because the Socialist Revolution has begun! Gobama!

  • Posted By: pezled @ 11/13/2008 8:07:27 AM

    um, onlycure-truth.......You're so lost, you're on the wrong article. This article isn't about banking. Go cut and paste somewhere else.

  • Posted By: OnlyCure=Truth @ 11/13/2008 3:14:56 AM

    ???Only banks can loan money they don???t have and charge interest for it. Because the elite who own
    the banks made it a policy that the bank can loan 10 dollars for every 1 it actually has.
    That is what created the current financial mess or as they say problem with liquidity.
    They created the problem by loaning money they did not even have to loan.
    Dishonest usury is what it is.

    Full disclosure of banking policies would be nice lets have it all put on the table for every one to
    see just how corrupt they are taking food and housing from people who work hard while they sit
    in there penthouses reading about bank bailout's. No don???t feel sorry for them feel sorry for the
    people who are being crushed under there feet from the dishonest usury.

    Most people had to give a down payment before 2004 for a home and if you where considered
    risky you had to give a bigger down payment.
    For example
    on a loan of 180,000 with medium to low risk you would fork out 7000.00 to buy a home.

    Now what does that translate into for the bank.
    The banks can loan 10 dollars for every 1 dollar they have and charge interest for the loan.
    win - win for the bank
    1 = 10 for them right off plus interest
    7000 = 70,0000 plus interest
    then you have a payment of 750.00 or so with interest on the loan
    750.00 = 7500.00 plus interest per month as you pay in for them
    1 year of payments = 90,000 plus interest for them to loan to others.
    so if you put 7000.00 down and finance 180,000.00 they get repaid in one year with a payment of
    750.00
    Sounds strange but remember 1 dollar is as good as ten to them for every dollar they take in they
    can loan 10
    So don???t feel sorry for them and bail them out. Bail out the public who just keeps paying not
    knowing any better.

    If you paid a down payment on your house and then you paid on it for even a year you paid it off
    in the banks books. 30+ times over if you paid for 30 years.

    After the first year they use your money to pay there salaries of 22 million for 22 days on the job what a joke.

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/12/2008 10:17:35 PM

    Obama,if we can believe HAMAS,is already ''embroiling''himself in the Palestinian/Israeli mess.

    Three things immediately raise themselves as a hindrance,offering no better luck than Bush had,perhaps even worse.

    1. HAMAS spokesman Ahmed Yousuf admits to Londons AL-HAYET Islamic newspaper on Monday that the Obama team has been ''meeting with HAMAS for months''leading up to the election. This represents a departure from Obamas promise that he would not consider negotiating with this terrorist organization.

    2. Tying in to No.1,Obama again goes back on a campaign pledge that he would not utilize the services of Robert Malley,in May,then thought to be a person of some possible position within an Obama administration,which caused worry among American Jewish circles in Florida and other battlegrounds based upon Malleys position during the Clinton presidency and for years afterwards while serving for George Soros that were and still are, percieved to be pro-HAMAS and pro-Arafat. [his own writings confirm this]. Clinton himself accused Malley of revisionism in his role in the Camp David Accords,which was ultimately wrecked by the Second Intifada in 2000. On May 9,2008, Obama stated that there will ''be no role in the future''for Malley.
    Malley was again named Obamas chief Middle East adviser and flew to engage in diplomatic overtures two weeks prior to the election that went unmentioned by the MSM that have already included talks with HAMAS, according to AL-HAYET, thus breaking not one,but two main Obama foreign policy platform promises. It remains astonishing that NEWSWEAK has not bothered to confirm these events. Malley next meets with the gangster Assad regime in Damascus,[which is currently sending arms to Lebanon in open violation of a UN resolution that was supposed to ''end''the 2006 Summer War ], and then goes to Egypt.

    3. Bidens comments. While Joe is a routine big mouth who can normally seen chewing on shoe leather,for the Israelis,even his Iranian comments were beyond the pale,when the Jerusalem Post,HA'ARETZ,and Israel Army Radio all nailed Biden for telling senior Israeli officials that they ''would have to reconcile themselves with a nuclear-armed Iran''. Of course Obama immediately denied that Biden had said any such thing...But then he also denied that he would ever again retain the services of Malley. Pitifully,[for NEWSWEAK and other American news services],we must look to foreign sources to provide news.

    AL-HAYET [London] Nov.10,2008:''Interview With Ahmed Yousuf''

    The London Times May 10,2008:''Barack Obama Sacks Adviser Over Talks With HAMAS''.

    Middle East News Nov.05,2008:''Obama Promises Improved Ties With Egypt,Syria''.

    HA'ARETZ Sept.01,2008:''Biden Quoted As Saying Israel Would Have To ''Reconcile''Itself To A Nuclear Iran''.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/13/2008 9:17:22 AM

      " Obama,if we can believe HAMAS,is already ''embroiling''himself in the Palestinian/Israeli mess."

      Since when is Hamas a credible source?

      • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/13/2008 11:48:00 AM

        Since Malleys meetings were also covered by MIDDLE EAST NEWS, AL-ARABIYA,and AL-JAZEERA. [all for Nov.05,2008].

        Thats how.

        You have been unwilling or unable to adress this Malley controversy. America was willing to take Obama as a ''credible source''when he flatly and publically stated that he would no longer use Malley in any capacity.



        ''He promised us gold. He lied. He is not...perfect''.

        Anthony Quinn to Omar Sharif. ''Lawrence Of Arabia''[1962].

        • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/13/2008 12:59:36 PM

          "You have been unwilling or unable to adress this Malley controversy."

          You haven't proven there IS a controversy. Everything is "unmentioned by the MSM".

          So far, I'm only inclined to recomment moe tinfoil for your hat. Now, if you can come up with a source that isn't a right wing blog or Hamas doing a little attention-whoring, I might become more interested.

          • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/13/2008 9:20:17 PM

            Uhh,Doc. Obama did not fire Malley because everything was A-OK. He did it due to the [London Times,May 10,2008],''controversy'' Malley generated by meeting with HAMAS when Obama had already made plain in the Charlotte SC debates as well as his campaign appearences in Florida that he would not meet with HAMAS,considered a terrorist organization by the US. What is it about this strange move by Obama that you refuse to grasp? People fired one day reappear to meet with a coterie of assorted Middle Eastern terror-sponsoring thugs.[Malley is meeting with Syrias Assad. The same Assad that said that there was no move on his portion to develop nuclear weapons in the same Syria that the IAEA has found concrete ,irrefutable evidence of processed uranium, at a suspected plant that was bombed by the IDF,not that this would ever appear in NEWSWEAK]. ''Lobbyists''that are supposed to be no portion of an Obama presidency are packing in his administration,with a former FANNIE MAE lobbyist leading the way.[yet you base hypocrites were wailing to the roof when McCain inserted as an adviser,a person who had also lobbied on FANNIE MAES behalf].

            Where is your phony outrage now?

            The Los Angeles Times. Nov.13,2008:''Barack Obama Taps Former FANNIE MAE Lobby Boss To Review State Dept.''

            REUTERS Nov.10,2008:''IAEA Finds Traces Of Uranium In Syria''

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/13/2008 9:16:12 AM

      Lee, You're one of the biggest imbeciles on the blogs. You don't know dick about the Hannity and Morris provided lines you're reciting. Here's your logic, President Obama is aligned with Hamas and to prove that, his first appointment was his Chief of Staff. Who did he appoint/ Rohm Emunel and Orthodox Jew.

      Let's discuss your Republican Party of Hate a little, ok? The GOP is the party of the KKK, and the Neonazi skinheads. Both are headquartered and protected by Republicans in RED states. Which one of these groups supports Isreal? The Republican party of hate also relies on it 's Christian evengelical Base. What do you think this group thinks of the Jew or the Catholic for that matter..

      Your Party hates the Jew and you've got the coconuts to attack Obama? Get you head back up Limbaugh's butt before you catch a cold!

      • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/13/2008 11:49:35 AM

        Well,I can ride circles around your infantile nonsense anyway.[which is no large feat].

        • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/13/2008 1:00:48 PM

          Not so far. CAN you explain Obama's chief of staff, if Obama is supposed to be such a Jew hater?

          • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/13/2008 9:23:50 PM

            Do not be provacative.[or dishonest]. Indicate in one place or at any time I stated that Obama ''hated Jews''. I am rightly critiquing Obama on his honesty and his early forays into foreign policy which are controversial. You idol worshippers are not up to this task. It thus falls to those such as myself.

            • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/15/2008 9:20:47 PM

              " It thus falls to those such as myself."

              What, the bitter loser crowd?

              • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/17/2008 1:00:38 PM

                Nope. Those of us who do not put words into others mouthes.And those of us who are not blinded by the Messiahs light,as is the obviously lockstep and already disgraced [Washington Post Nov.17,2008],media.

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 11/12/2008 4:44:37 PM

    America needs a total restructuring across the country,,Honey Moon are over now,The Country citizens have to make efforts and be realistic,pragmatic and change atttitudes how we should see the future ahead.Yes standard of living are getting far too high to sustaince , the American's dreams temporary slipping away,Yes we all have fails by allowing ourselves living beyong our means and the policy of G.W.Bush doesn't make any better.
    Americans need scrifices to be make in daily Lifes style ,lowing expections ,either living from Big House to Smaller house,Big car to Smaller one,Lives in America much getting harder,Some of us have been juggling 2/3 jobs just to survives for end-meet,Life's getting like Slogs,slavery to Ownself for never ending Lust.

    Now is the time to concentrate the future of our kids eduction ,make sure they have much brighter future ahead.Start to be Humble and down to earth American again.I have travelled many countries and chances to see many changes that took place,for example like Beijing,Fuzou,Guangzhou,i've fbeen there or few times to made comparations ,Their infractures, Airport,Road,Standard of Living,Bullet Train ,Mass Transit are all New and with the highest World Standard compare to the Old shabby Americans Infractures,Recently their Government announced sitmulos package for its citizen more than US600 Billions just to be distbrutes among his citizen..This the same country aslo capable and afford to helps courtesy and LOAN America Trillion of Dollar worth of Debt,

    Intrestingly many of this Chinese scumbags can afford to lives and OWNED the land and home without worriyng being Employed.in first place.If the American out of Job Thats, the Dead End.

  • Posted By: DianaRo @ 11/12/2008 4:27:08 PM

    As it is obvious to all that president Obama has a huge task waiting for him with our financial problems not only as a country but now as a whole it seems like we may be forgetting other issues this world has as well. Global hunger is getting worse and their may be a less difficult way of looking at the problem. The solution may be the Global Poverty Act. This act will be looked at in December. This act is something that Obama has before been an advocate to. The Borgen Project an organization that is working to get this act passed as well. To learn more go to www.borgenproject.org.

  • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/12/2008 4:24:27 PM

    Why make excuses for the media? Give them credit for recognizing early on the the GOP party of hate was finished. Who but Fox News and a few dozen purveyors of Hate on radio would have an audience so ignorant that they couldn't see the difference in President Obama, a man of the people and Senator McCain a nasty old clone of the Republican bottom feeders.

    Here was a typical interview with a GOP pundit. Do you think Obama is a Socialist? Answer No! Do you think Obama associates with Terrorist? Answer No! Do you think Obama is a Muslim? answer No!

    Do you think it's fair to bring those issues up in negative Ads? YES! That really says it all for the Republican Party of Hate. Hate defines the Republican, it's what they are!

    • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/12/2008 5:49:47 PM

      Yet it is not ''Republicans''in Hollywood using the invective ''Ni..er''to describe those who voted for Prop 08[gay marriage ban].

      The Huffington Post Nov.10,2008:''N-Bomb Dropped On Black Passersby At Prop.8 Protests''.

      You were saying.............?

      • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/13/2008 5:55:53 PM

        Some one says the N-word and the Republican Party of hate is somehow cleansed. No!

        • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/14/2008 3:40:08 PM

          It is now more than ''someone''. In less than 24 hours,in Michigan at an LDS,Church,person or persons now sought by the police for a ''possible hate crime'' threw a burning bible at the front of the church along with what appears to be an ammo clip bearing rifle shells. In Utah,and the LDS HQ of ''Temple Square'', the FBI is looking at envelopes containing a ''white powder'' that were sent to the Mormons. In California,an eighty-year old woman had a cross violently knocked out of her hands which was then stomped on during a Prop.8 protest.

          It appears that ''hate''is a universal problem not confined to ''Republicans'' alone,does it not?

          www.instapundit.com Nov.14,2008 for the full roundup of anti-Prop 8 outrages and hate crimes directed at the LDS Church,racial tensions over the Prop 8 vote,and a perspective on the violence from gay moderates,and the Mormon science-fiction author Orson Scott Card.

      • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/12/2008 7:33:35 PM



        I have it on excellent authority that it WAS a republican who hurled that epithet. It's just that the mainstream media you mention is in cahoots with all the rest of those SOBs that infect the entirety of the MSM, and they all got together to conceal that they have a photo of the party registration of that republican, so they can continue their distortion of the news in their ongoing effort to destroy all liberals...

        • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/12/2008 9:23:57 PM

          Then quit wasting my time and PRODUCE your ''excellent authority''. I have taken to opportunity to cite with non-partisan[or in the case of HUFFINGTON,even liberal],sources. It is not difficult for you to exercise the same custom.

          • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/12/2008 9:40:18 PM



            "Holmes": I saw that you gave a citation. I was wondering what was your authority for saying: ...it was not "Republicans"...

        • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/12/2008 8:11:48 PM

          Was there an "er" or an "uh" on the end? Maybe we can start with the pronounciation and inflection.

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/12/2008 3:09:56 PM

    Errata: Change ''FEC'' with ''SEC''.

  • Posted By: wilder @ 11/12/2008 1:58:45 PM

    This news publication, along with others bascially laid the red carpet for the wonder that was to come of an Obama presidency. Now we are told, by Newsweek and others, that we really shouldn't expect much from Obama, because he will be basically finish what Bush started (which is somehow now correct) or leave the problems to other countries. Sounds like "Change and Hope" have become "Wait and See".

    • Posted By: Jack999 @ 11/13/2008 10:24:05 AM

      America annual expenditure budgets always have been on table aroundt US 600 Billion for fiscal year anually ..Im wondering where shall Obama get this money for the fisical year 2008 Budgeted Year? After G.W B screw-up the US economy.,and the country has to cope up with 700 Billion Bailout?

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/12/2008 4:08:21 PM

      If you could remove your head from ole rushbo's butt for a few seconds, I'll explain to you why your Republican Party of Hate lost and will suffer worse defeat in 2012.

      President Obama tfended off the feeble lies and distortions launched by your puppeteers, Hannity, Morris, Matelin, Delay, Robertson, Babe Buchanan, McCain and Palin and "carpet bombed" you with a weapon unfamilar to you. The truth. This is something Gore and Kerry failed to do. When Obama got in your face, you did what all cowards do, withered and died. In 2012 a repeat of 2008 is inevitable because your leaders will convince you that it wasn't the hate it was the candidate, it was the VP choice or it was the financial meltdown. After the party of hate loses more Senate and House seats, what's left of the GOP will be relegated to third party status.

      If you have deserted by 2012, prepare to have your butt handed to you again.

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/12/2008 2:12:52 PM

      It wasn't the media, sorry. They fact is that Obama ran a much more respectable campain and it showed. McCain's campaign degraded to a spectacle, so did the media generate that?

      Unfortunatly for McCain he was running for president under a party that he disagreed with on some key issues in the past. He was stuck between his values and honor and running a scortched earth campaign.

      So yes, Obama did fare better with the media, but Obama did because of his campaign, that it was more respectable.

      • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/12/2008 3:09:17 PM

        Yes. In point of fact,[The ANNENBERGS ''FACTCHECK''], the media all by itself generated several instances designed to become ''spectacle''.

        ROLLING STONE and its totally revisionist lies about McCains service while on USS FORRESTAL that included a physical impossibility .[lighting up a missle on the craft behind McCains when McCains jet exhaust faced the sea,and ''wet-starting''a supersonic aircraft which is impossible]

        The New York Times,CNN,and The Washington Post [The Post and CNN delivered retractions,the Times did not],on the Palin ''book-banning list''that was an invention of the leftwinged blogosphere and thus was never even minutely vetted by allegedly ''hard-news''organizations.

        CNN,which claimed that Palin ''decreased''[Campbell Brown and Anderson Cooper], funding to special education/needs children when FACTCHECK observed that she actually increased it.

        CNN,MSNBC,The Washington Post,and the New York Times that blamed Palin for ''charging for rape kits''when FACTCHECK again observed that it was not in her capacity as then-Mayor of Wasilla that she had any authority or responsibility to either set price,or not charge at all. This was a state function. Not a municipal one. [All except MSNBC and the Times included later retractions].

        The New York Times,which claimed that Palin and not her husband ,was an actual member of the AIP.[no retraction submitted by the Times].

        MSNBC and the Washington Post,which called McCain in ''error''[ Olbermann called him ''constitutionally ignorant''],in McCains urging president Bush to fire FEC Chairman Cox. It was later pointed out to both news services by constitutional law professors at HARVARD,GEORGE WASHINGTON and PRINCETON ,that the president does indeed have this authority as originated in a 1950 E.O. signed by President Harry S.Truman [the Post retracted, MSNBC,and its constitutionally ignorant Keith Olbermann, did not].

        ''Faux'' or ''Fixed'' News....But FOX is not included in these examples of journalistic departures from the truth[which has caused American trust in these services to drop to an all-time low[PEW Center for People and the Press Poll,Oct.24,2008],that were deliberately designed to ''generate spectacle''.

        www.factcheck.org

        www.politfact.com

        www.people-press.org

        www.volokh.com The Volokh Conspiricy [Law review] Archives,Oct.2008 Keywords ''McCain'',''FEC'',''Keith Olbermann'', ''MSNBC''

        • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/12/2008 4:42:16 PM

          Lee, Limbaugh or Hannnity or Morris give you the lines and you repeat them. Go to the Fox blog, you'll be a hero there. Here you're just another mouth-breathing hate monger. I'm telling you this for your own good. Your poll numbers are not looking good.

          • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/12/2008 5:35:59 PM

            Do not be so obtuse. You will find that none of the sources mentioned above is partisan. None belong to a ''FOX''. NEWSWEAK itself relied upon their factchecking all during the campaign. Attacking messengers is a dullwitted exercise in futility,as it does not refute that which is posited.[which it cannot anyway as even the above news sources,most of them at least,later admitted their errors]. You would be wise to do the same.

            • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/12/2008 7:00:03 PM

              Again, a lot of crap was propogated by the media. But they did not win the election for Obama, he won it, and the McCain campaign helped him along with some really bad timing and decisions that cast doubt in the minds of independent voters.

              The media did not do that. Give Obama some credit too. He ran against and beat Clinton, the Rove tactics, and a sht load of really low tactics. That community organizer's campaign wil be emulated by others, he raised teh bar, and everybodyin the business knows that.

              • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/12/2008 7:19:31 PM

                Obamas win is besides the point. This is a area of reality [even if ''change''is a more elusive thing]. The problem now [only informationally speaking,and leaving the economy and foreign /domestic policy alone for the moment], is that the press will not stop in peddling their ''crap''. This is a huge disservice to the American people at a time when fact,and not in printing garbage peddled by the partisan blogosphere,is most needed. Take for instance this,provided by LEXIS-NEXXIS,over a one week cycle.

                128 story-lines in the American press on Bushs dog biting a REUTERS reporter.

                0 story -lines on improvements in Chinas ballistic submarine fleet and its expansion into the Pacific.

                1 story-line [REUTERS European office] on Russias naval rebuilding that will include nuclear submarines.



                The above NEWSWEAK knucklehead is telling Obama to ''relax''[after waxing hysteric a few years ago that we Were Going To War With Iran]. We do not have this luxury,and neither does Obama.

                • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/12/2008 7:30:48 PM

                  I do not find cute animal stories newsworthy at all. In fact, that is one reason why I cannot stomach local news channels. I don't want my newspeople shouting out 'good morning!', it is so annoying that I want to chew my hand off. You won't get many arguements from me about the media.

                  Unfortunetly the tabloid garbage sells in this country (makes me puke), and the line between tabloid news and conventional news is a very blurry line.

                • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/12/2008 7:25:19 PM

                  I am not one to give accolades to the media too often. For the most part they regurgitate stories, and really missed the real story so many times it will make your head sping completely off. Investigative reporting is an art and science that has been overshadowed by soundbites, and sensationalistic regurgitations of the sht that was fed throughout the news cycle.

        • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/12/2008 4:17:55 PM



          I voted against Palin because of her close "association" with a radical who has consorted with other radicals in the Alaska independence party who want to tear apart this grand Union....Oh, and why doesn't Palin share with us the certification that her witches and demons have actually been removed?....WHAT IS SHE HIDING!!!!

          • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/12/2008 8:02:01 PM

            I had to get out of the tit-for-tat. Glass houses, stones, it is all very redundent and just proves fruitless to use the same logic. Palin was way in over her head, it was a desperate choice. But look at the bright side, we got to see the most entertaining and ludicrous presidential campaign in our generation. We got Joe the Plumber, how could we have ever done without that? There is some substantial comedy built into this tragedy. And after a really bad time for this country we can hopefully hope that we can burn the page.

        • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/12/2008 4:04:32 PM

          Ya, the media are wrong all the time. They pushed along all of the Obama crap as well. It is not just one-sided. The media is always looking for spectacle. Objectivity is lacking in just about everything you read.

          Bottom line, the media was not responsible for McCain losing, it was their campaign and the campaign of Obama. Somebody one, and somebody lost, and people voted for their candidate, or the lesser of two evils as they saw it. It really is not that hard to see what happened...

          • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/12/2008 4:24:21 PM



            "whatisreal": Then why can't you see it?

            • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/12/2008 7:54:03 PM

              I don't know how I ersponded to your posting. It was Lee Holmes I was responding too, and somehow fukd it up... Sorry about that...

            • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/12/2008 7:52:15 PM

              I am sorry, what again am I not seeing??? That the media did not win the election for Obama? That is a distraction that a loser uses to take the spotlight off themselves. It is very roach worthy. People are a lot more like roaches than they are given credit for.

              They run from the light, cannot stand it. What is the difference between a hypocrate and a roach? Roaches aren't expected to know any better....

              • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/12/2008 8:54:02 PM



                Ya know, I've looked and see I've goofed up to. It's just that this guy Holmes confuses me... Let's not try to unsnarl this yarn, and start over. :-)

  • Posted By: kalamere @ 11/12/2008 11:11:22 AM

    The press are disgusting hypocrits, Obama campaign of the "failed" policies of Bush's Foreign Policy, now he's in no hurry to keep his campaign promises. Any of them for that matter.

    • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/12/2008 1:24:35 PM



      kalamere, Maybe he's got some sort of strange notion that he ought to wait 'til he's President?...

  • Posted By: ariziowa @ 11/12/2008 12:44:11 AM

    My goodness, Jackieboy - I will bet you I know alot more about Africa than you! Care to bet, Jackiegirl?

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/12/2008 2:05:56 PM

      Are you from South Africa? I have friends from South Africa and they are really good people. I was just wondering why you don't seem to get American politics or anything so far. That would explain it.

    • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/12/2008 1:29:10 PM



      Did they move Iran to Africa?

    • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 11/12/2008 1:08:09 PM

      I 've noticed you like to dodge responses, so I will present this to you YET AGAIN, don't be a coward, respond I see you attacking people here, but then you flee when a conflict presents it's self to you...like another poster who has disappeared mysteriously

      Here ya go son, havae fun with it, this is the second time I'll give it to you ;)

      Posted By: ariziowa @ 11/11/2008 8:16:46 PM
      Comment: I am a 54 year old white male. How old are you? (And you should learn how to spell!)

      Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 11/11/2008 9:08:37 PM
      Comment: I AM SHOCKED!!! A 54 yr old WHITE MALE who did NOT support Obama, OMG! Talk about stereotyping...LMAO! What a fricken tool, maybe Joe the Douche Bag could use you to clear a toilet ;) oh wait, it's chunks of you that clog the toilet...too bad, I guess you serve NO PURPOSE....AzIdiotOutWalkingAround...aka ariziowa ha!

      • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/12/2008 1:33:04 PM



        Harley, He's waiting for the chance to run circles around you with his vast knowledge, like they don't have elections in Iran, based on all he knows about Africa...


        • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 11/12/2008 5:34:39 PM

          LMAO! Yeah I'm nervous but I think I'll be ok, I can see the country of AfricIranica from my front porch...ya betcha there.

  • Posted By: ariziowa @ 11/11/2008 8:06:03 PM

    So, we just throw more money, more money at the public schools. Gee, do you think Obama and Michelle are going to send their children to a public schools in DC - I think not. What do you think? Also, how do you know that the "young" in Iran are going to overthrow the mullahs? "Elections"???? What planet are you living on? There are no "elections" in Iran! You seem to be a very dedicated teacher, and I always held teachers with the highest respect. Has south LA gotten better? I know south Phoenix has not! I also know that East & Central Des Moines is really going downhill.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/12/2008 3:48:01 PM

      " There are no "elections" in Iran! "

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    • Posted By: Jack999 @ 11/12/2008 2:21:03 PM

      What Free election you talks about?...Where You From? Dont you know a candidate in US election spend 500 mllion just to win Election? What free Election..you taking about? only Elitist Candidates can stand......like royalty cronyism Garndfather,Son,Gandson can be ELECTED As ONLY in President's histroy Obama presidency was paid by Public.

      Its easy for anyone to guess who will be Next US president in US when 2016 comes either JAY BUSH or CHELSEA CLINTON.

      • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/12/2008 3:20:56 PM



        Hillary would stomp Chelsea's brains in if she got in the way....

    • Posted By: ariziowa @ 11/12/2008 12:43:39 AM

      Well Jackieboy, I will bet you I know alot more about Africa than you! Care to take the bet? I really doubt if you will! (or is it jackiegirl?)

      • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/12/2008 12:40:47 PM



        When did they move Iran to Africa?

    • Posted By: Jack999 @ 11/11/2008 8:49:45 PM

      Im really ashamed of American's knowledge about the World ,You made a mistake and yet has the guts asking others Which planet does he live on? You doesnt seem to know the facts about Iran and made the same silly 4th grade boozoo like Africa is just a country ,Give one reason the World resident should not laughing at American's stupidity arrogant? . Iran ,President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is, going to meet his prospective rival and potential opponent the former President Mohammed Khatami,in Iran's presidential vote in coming June ELECTION.

      • Posted By: ariziowa @ 11/12/2008 12:29:46 AM

        Again, what planet are your live on Jack? Why don't you understand there are NO FREE ELECTIONS IN IRAN!

    • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/11/2008 8:33:24 PM



      Can you spell Ahmanidinijad, Ignorant?

      • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/11/2008 10:42:32 PM


        Oops. Gotta werk on dat typin...

      • Posted By: Jack999 @ 11/11/2008 9:14:25 PM

        This another boozzooo........learn about him
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 11/11/2008 7:39:45 PM

    I recently retired after spending a lifetime teaching school in south Los Angeles. I've sort of adopted Obama as one of my honorary former students because he embodies many of the ideals that I attempted to teach my students. One of my former students, a candidate for graduate school, sent me an email calling Obama Barack O'BALLA.
    Actually that's not a bad nickname. Let's examine our Arch-Enemy, Iran as an example Obama is in control of the ball. He's got a leading score (Among the young in Iran, he's probably more popular than the mullahs) , time clock is running out (Iran's elections are slated for June 2009), and he's got control of the ball. What would any serious "balla" do?
    Obama has proven to be wise, prudent, and cautious. He has refused to take any foreign policiy initiative now because he firmly believes there's only one president at a time. He seeks consensus rather than division. This will serve him well in the field of foreign policy. Obama may well follow many of the recommendations listed here.

  • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 11/11/2008 3:58:19 PM

    Let???s look at the reality we all know and just use some common sense. We are currently hearing, without any apology or acceptance of guilt, many Republicans saying that the Republican Party simply got away from the basics and they now need to get back to the basic principals of: low taxes; small government; and freedom without government interference. Well we have seen much of that pushed through over the last eight years, with the total stubborn support and backing of the Republican Party by the way, and we now have seen the drastic results and the harm done especially to the middle-class, which then really impacts the total economy. Also I don???t really think many people actually want an excessively large government, with a lot of interference and implementing an aggressive tax and spend mentality. To keep things in perspective, no previous administration has ever spent as much, including more on pork-barrel spending, then the Bush admin and McCain???s proposals were literally expected to cost more than what Obama has proposed. And relating to the Republican basic principals, there really can???t be many left who don???t understand that we really do desperately need some government regulation, enforcement and control (interference) and some necessary government spending to avoid total deterioration of infrastructure and on programs aimed at progress (energy independence, Global Warming, jobs retention and development, education,,,) demanding a government of a size at least adequate to accomplish all of that.
    (continued below:)

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/11/2008 4:40:47 PM

      The GOP didn't lose because they lost their way. They lost because we, for the first time since Bill Clinton, had a candidate that could fend off an attack and return fire tenfold! Gore and Kerry didn't do that and were victims. When the McCain campaign of hate released their feeble attacks of lies and distortion, President Obama countered with his own version of campaign carpet bombing. The Republican, not suprisingly, couldn't cope with it. President used a weapon that was unfamilar to the GOP party of hate. The truth. It almost seemed unfair at times.

      When McCain said he had Obama right where he wanted him, it was like Sony liston looking up at ALI and telling him to watch his step!

    • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 11/11/2008 3:59:54 PM

      (continued from above:)

      Where there might be some debate is on government sponsored programs to benefit the poor, where some may consider that to be give-away aid just making people dependent; well some programs are necessary there also and should be aimed at bringing people up and into the productive community, which has then literally proven to benefit the total economy. The last item was Tax Cuts and they are fine as long as they are effective and responsible and not, as we have recently seen, just aimed at the wealthy with the rationalization that benefits simply will ???trickle down???. The ???trickle down??? theory is a fraud as giving more money to those who already spend all they want on whatever they want, actually has little benefit to the economy, just makes the wealthy wealthier and likely just stimulates campaign contributions. We actually have more of a ???bubble up??? economy were when more money is given to the poor and middle-class it gets spent on needs like a new refrigerator, paying the bills, fixing the car, going out to dinner,,, and gets right back into the economy creating growth, profits for businesses and even benefits for the wealthy. The common sense of it all tells us that what we really need is a fiscally responsible (balanced budget), honest and conscientious, more moderate government focused on benefiting all of the people. Neither extreme is the answer and those who try to rationalize the value of either extreme should be seen as trying to manipulate public opinion for their own purposes. An effective more centrist government is what the voters should logically demand and totally reject any biased subterfuge aimed at selling something different that only benefits a few.

      • Posted By: Jack999 @ 11/11/2008 4:12:04 PM

        What's Obama needs to Help out are those poor American Famiilies like working as Janitor,Single mum with few kids,daily low-wage workers who wakes up 5 am ieveryday n morning for work and some did 2/3 Job juggling just to survive end meet.They dont ask Government for Sitmulus Package help..They're asking Government to consider their plight to survive. like government asistance, like high subsidies Child's Care,low school fees,Government asistance on Job retraining for them to achieve higher skill.
        A confuscius said,"When someone are poverty asking for help,its best you give him a fishing rod and teachs him how to fish then you provides them the Fish itself".

        • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/11/2008 5:39:16 PM

          Confucius said it well indeed. Those that you describe however already work and help themselve as best they can. They already know how to fish, so to speak.The stimulus will go to help exactly those people you describe. When the last stimulous package was enacted and the checks recieved, I didn't hear anyone including myself say it was wasteful spending. 60% of the American people place the stimulous package for the lower and middle classas their top priority. I think they're right and I'll try to use mine wisely. Bush should promote this package asap because certainly there's a better chance of this money going toward Christmas spending if it gets out in the next 3 months. .

          It's a defining difference between Democrats and Republicans. Almost every Republican has condemned the idea. Why? It's because they have little regard for labor. If this was a bailout of Haliburton or some other defense contractor , the checks would be in the mail.

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 11/11/2008 3:49:29 PM

    Globalization and war are two sides of the same coin. Throughout many parts of the world, including Central America, there has been little ???hidden??? about the links between corporate interests, globalization, and militarization. Under the guise of the war on drugs, the war on terror, Plan Colombia, and lesser-known programs like the ???humanitarian??? NewHorizons, U.S. military forces are backing U.S. corporate and geopolitical interests from Iraq to Colombia, from Honduras to the Philippines. We can see it in the war on Iraq and how USAID awarded ???reconstruction??? contracts to corporate backers of the Bush Administration and we see it in plans for a U.S. free trade agreement with the Middle East by 2013, based on a network of bilateral FTAs with individual Middle Eastern governments. We can also see it in the Mexican government???s continued war against Indigenous Peoples in resource-rich areas like the Lacandon jungle, home to the Zapatista Army of National Liberation and their supporters. We can see it in the renewed U.S. military presence in South East Asia, especially in their joint exercises with the Philippine military. Their mission is to make the world safe for capitalism and the U.S. empire and to crush communities and economies organized around different values and principles.

    Meanwhile, the US has "rewarded" its allies in the "war on terror" (e.g. Australia and Thailand) by negotiating FTAs with them. And it has demanded that the governments of Gulf countries scrap their boycotts of Israeli goods as part of FTA negotiations.

    Besides the obvious ways in which US geopolitical concerns are embedded in Washington???s pursuit of bilateral trade and investment deals, other countries are also pursuing bilateral free trade and investment agreements to further geopolitical goals. Increasingly, we can see access to energy resources (eg. oil, gas, uranium and water) as a factor in determining the priorities of signing bilateral FTAs for countries such as China and Japan.

    Dont Blame others ,This the Price America has to Pay dearly when adopted Neo -policy . The End Average Americans cannot compete and have to Suffers deeply.

  • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/11/2008 3:41:19 PM

    I was watching the remake of Hair Spray last night on HBO and one of the characters delivered a line that so appropriately describes a bottom feeding , mouth-breathing member of the Republican party of Hate.

    When you talk with a Republican..."You can expect a Whole Lot of UGLY coming from a Whole Lot of STUPID!"

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/11/2008 3:57:33 PM

      I don't think it is the GOP as a whole, there are good people there too. it is these fringe freaks from both sides that stir the pot and say really ignorant things.

      The GOP needs to decide if it is going to be a puppet of the 'values voters' with their 2 issues, or move into this century. While they are controlled by the money given by the churce goers to the church leaders who use it for the politics of division, they will continue to be on their own. That will not win elections any more. Hypocrasy does not sell so much, they have been exposed big time.

      The sad thing for the GOP is that many in the center want to move to the future, but the base to the right has the money, money from doners that believe they are given to a Godly cause. Those people are not only being used they are losing touch with reality.

      • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/11/2008 4:23:38 PM

        When you say Good people, do you mean good and ignorant.? If a person knowingly follows party leaders who preach hate how could they be good? If you're saying they know not what they do, maybe you could suggest they're good. How would you like that hung on you? He's a good guy but he doesn't know anything. She's a good peron but she's an imbecile.

        The "values" voter is nothing more than a term made up by the mouth-breathin GOP to belittle those that vote for a Democrat. If you don't vote Republican, you lack values and therefore are devoid of morals or ethics.

        • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/11/2008 4:36:46 PM

          No I mean fiscal conservatives that are good people with a different view.

          I make absolutley no excuse for ignorance. The GOP party as a whole has sold out to the base which is out of touch and full of hypocrasy

          Ya, that is why I put values voters in quotes.

          • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/11/2008 4:59:04 PM

            If a person is a fiscal conservative and good, then he or she is a good person. The fact that they are or aren't fiscally conservative doesn't reflect on one's character.

            Most of us, I think, are fiscally conservatives to some degree. We don't think it's ok to spend more than we make and we know now, with Social Security and 401Ks in peril, that we should be cautous.
            Unfortunately, fiscal conservatism has come to mean that helping the needy is a waste of money. The same fiscal conservatives seeming have no problem with the rich becoming rich while the rest of us are on our own.

            I'm willing to share and I admire those like Bill Gates, his father and Warren Buffet who are super-rich but believe they owe the country something.

            Most of the people I know who pride themselves on being fiscal conservatives are really just cheap and self centered. Isn't it always this person that doesn't chip in for a retirement gift or doesn't bring anything in for the food drive?

            How about this? When we're going to use fiscal conservative in a comment, we use fiscon instead. It's a lot less to type.

            • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/11/2008 5:40:45 PM

              Fiscon sounds good...

              I guess i am saying i hope to God that the GOP takes control and sends their base looking for some other party to hijack. They should have their own party of politics and religion. Then they can stand on thier own, bet you the base would nto survive wiithout a host. Kind of like a parasite...

  • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/11/2008 3:04:30 PM

    Comment: This just in: GOP does not own GOD!

    Many who voted for Obama prayed he would win, including myself. I guess the GOP does not own God afterall!

    Palin prays and God says 'no'! So who exactly is she praying to???

  • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/11/2008 1:43:38 PM

    All of the GOP supporters that came forward and said, 'we lost fair and square', I applaud, and respect their integrity. All of you others that are trashing the new president with lies and fear smears, well, you suck and deserve to be losers.

    It was a hard fought campain from all sides and it just blows me away how small minded some are. t is sad, but true that we live in a divided country and many want to keep it that way.

  • Posted By: Sunshine1957 @ 11/11/2008 1:43:12 PM

    Comment: It is bizarre to me to see how Obama brainwashed so many people. Stop hitting on Sarah, at least she doesn???t have the radical back ground that idiot Obama has. I would not allow him or his radical family in my home. HE IS A LIAR, and people like yourself, who seem to have limited education, can be brainwashed easily. The media, like CBS, ABC, NBC ??? all ganged up on McCain and Palin. Had the Media not done that and if Obama had not accepted all that money from who knows where (middle eastern???), and had the homeless not voted for him, thanks to Acorn and if Acron had not gotten all those fake voters???. Oh, one more??? if the % of blacks (99.9%) who voted for him because ???he???s a black man??? ??? ODUMA WOULD HAVE LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .
    THAT???S A FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/12/2008 3:50:01 PM

      Translation: "WE LOST! BOO HOO!"

    • Posted By: kilntime88 @ 11/11/2008 2:28:12 PM

      het Sunshine - Funny you should accuse anyone of being brainwashed. Especially when it appears you're being fed Limbaugh intravenously. When the woman can't put 2 coherent sentences together without a TelePrompter -- and then blames it on the 'elite media filter'???? Please do us all a favor and bring Ms. Palin around every 4 years. We appreciate the support!

      • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/11/2008 2:34:08 PM

        It is laughable, and I have been laughing.

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/11/2008 2:26:21 PM

      Have you no decency?

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/11/2008 2:09:04 PM

      Hitting on Sarah????

      Get this, nobody of any consequence hit on her. She was not vetted properly and needed to be by the public. She should have been scrutinized for the most important job on earth. Sorry, her resume and performance did not come even close to work as a staffer.

      Anyhow, you lost, she lost,she was in over her ead and she did teh best she could. I have no ill feelings toward her at all. If she takes the next four years to get up at the national level she could change some minds, but not this time.

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/11/2008 1:47:23 PM

      The only thing strange is that after your humiliating loss to a "Community Organizer" you are still whining. It is also strange how you have zero integrity, which is why the GOP base appears as hypocrates when people like you are speaking in your way.

      You got to the superbowl and you were embarassed. So what. rebuild your party, make it better, bring something new to the table so you don't appear so out of touch and win next time. BFD!

      Step up!

  • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/11/2008 1:17:51 PM

    I love basking in the GOP's loss. They have been so oot of touch, and the Bush supporters are just lost in the pile of dung they created for themselves. It is funny how they still hang on to that turd. They are as bad losers as they are winners.

    They never deal with issues, they can't. They use lies and distortion like little children. That is what they have been taught, that is how many of the hypocrates operate.

    They get smashed at thier own game on the playing field on the world stage. Instead of being constructive they attack with Drudge level comments that remind us of what we teach our children not to do. Very immature, very out of touch and very much a thing of the past.

  • Posted By: pezled @ 11/11/2008 6:10:57 AM

    After all the screaming about Bush's foreign policy, now Newsweek says "relax", there's actually nothing to do????? lol. Hindsight bias. No surprise.