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  • Posted By: M. Lewis @ 11/12/2008 6:46:12 PM

    In the typical case, prostitution is not a victimless crime. This case appears to be atypical, however. Ms. Dupre apparently did not come from poverty or abuse but simply wanted to earn easy money.

    Spitzer was proscecuting johns under the theory that prostitution was a form of conspiracy to aovid appropriate payment of taxes. Again, this appears to be a bit of a stretch. The prostitution business was not paying taxes and Spitzer knew this. On the other hand, he was attempting just to get laid. Prostitution is for lazy, selish people who do not want to have to take the time for foreplay but can live out their narcissistic urges without worrying about someone else's pleasure. In other words, Spitzer was a jerk. As someone who believes that the government should stay out of morality when it involves high paid "workers", it was not a big deal that Spitzer did not go to jail. If on the other hand, Spi9tzer put other johns in jail, then he should have had to serve the same sentence that he forced them to serve. while I believe that the government should stay out of high priced prostitution, hypocricy is never appropriate.

  • Posted By: enigmaforever @ 11/12/2008 5:54:58 PM

    Get a life, they elected a terrorist into the the white house, and your worried about this crap. No wonder newspapers and reporters have such little respect.

    • Posted By: caring2405 @ 11/12/2008 6:43:18 PM

      The only terrorist allow to leave the white House is BUSH jr. He leaving the country in its worse condition ever in the History of America. Thank God for our new President. Your thinking is what part of America problems. America is rising up to become a Greater Nation. don't get into a car accident going to

    • Posted By: TalkSoup @ 11/12/2008 5:57:57 PM

      A terrorist???????


      You're just plain stupid

  • Posted By: Bluestem @ 11/12/2008 6:36:16 PM

    Most "in the business" are there voluntarily. Suggesting that they are victims because of a lack of equal opportunity is to suggest that drug dealers, burglers and others are the real victims. Prostitution is a service that has a willing buyer and a willing seller.
    Of course, since economic opportunity is denyed to women, many of them marry, so are all married women prostitutes?

    • Posted By: rickky @ 11/12/2008 6:42:51 PM

      If we listen to your REASONING, then, therefore, it is OK FOR DRUG DEALERS and JUNKIES to not be prosecuted, because, they are willing also. So, LETS LET SPITZER BREAK THE LAW AND LET THE DRUG DEALERS BREAK THE LAW TOO. IN FACT, Lets just let America be LAWLESS!!! It is idiots like you that mae America the way it is today.... PUT SPITZER IN JAIL, HE IS A CRIMINAL, LETS ALL PROTEST AND MAKE A CITIZENS AREST OF THE ANIMAL and CRIMINAL !!!!!

  • Posted By: VixterDaven @ 11/12/2008 6:42:47 PM

    Dearest Bluestem,

    Your lack of concern would change if you knew anything at all about the facts.

  • Posted By: jimbenny @ 11/12/2008 6:42:04 PM

    Is this all you have to report? Get Real!. Just because it's someone in the public the news makes a big deal about it.... WHO CARES! You lower the bar when you make a fuss for headlines, shame on you "news media".

  • Posted By: GreatDebate @ 11/12/2008 6:40:48 PM

    I'm a little confused myself. He broke the law...correct? I don't care how much public humiliation he gets for "breaking the law". He took an oath!!! He's suppose to be an example. So as an example...he needs to show us what happens when you "break the law". Hmmm...if they don't typically prosecute "johns that buy women from pimps" then why do they have stings with undercover prostitutes looking for johns?

  • Posted By: VixterDaven @ 11/12/2008 6:36:19 PM

    Many injustices are addressed when they are not allowed to go unnoticed and public outcry and action by people who will take a moment to help another person in distress.

    While Spitzer gets off free for flagrantely violating the law, its too common place and that does not surprise me. The question therefore is - what can we do about it?

    A very strong point that many people are forced into this during poor economic times, and with no let up in sight - everyone reading this needs to keep in mind the potential for violation of their daughter, niece, yes, even a son or nephew.

    Further, keep two things in mind, prostition often involves sick and violent acts, and as laws are broken without punishment it will only lead to further violation of the lives of individuals trapped and manipulated into this.

    I beg to differ with Spitzers @$$ whole lawyer, the predation on others IS a big deal.

    WHAT CAN WE, THE READERS DO?

    • Posted By: rickky @ 11/12/2008 6:38:57 PM

      READERS NEED TO WRITE AND SPEAK UP AGAINST THIS SPITZER CRIMINAL AMINAL and PUT HIM IN JAIL WHERE HE BELONGS!!!!!!!!! Spitzer is an IDIOT, a DISGRACE, a MISTRUST to the public and should be THROWN IN JAIL where he belongs, however, he probably paid off his friends to stop that. SPITZER IS THE REASON THAT AMERICA IS SUCH IN A DOWN DISGRACE, SPITZER AND EVERYONE LIKE HIM NEEDS TO BE THROWN OUT OFF OFFICE and THROWN IMMEDIATELLY IN JAIL. If he was in China, he would be SHOT in the head immediatelly.

  • Posted By: LittleAugster @ 11/12/2008 6:19:37 PM

    Politicians are apparently above the law don't people realize that in this country. It's cliche but "double standards" do exist! Is it right, no! Is it fair, no! Can we do anything about it, no! The most troubling aspect regarding this subject is that the average person simply thinks this behavior is OK. Sad but true and don't make me bring up Mr. Clinton. What a disgrace to most of us who believe in our country and the fact that the highest authority in the country should be held to the same laws as the rest of us. Oh, that includes Moral standards that the rest of America has obviously forgotten.
    Sad American

    • Posted By: Co4US @ 11/12/2008 6:38:56 PM

      LittleAugster, Kind of like Exxon having the highest profits ever and we are paying the highest gas prices ever (almost $5.00 a Gallon) and then hmmmm changes happen and I drive down the street and gas is under $2.00 a gallon. It is not Dems or Reps it is "people" just "people" that allow this to happen. Any man that does this or goes to a strip club and then starts pointing fingers is definately in the wrong. Admit your wrong doings and move on I just wasted time typing this to say my piece and someones daughter is being exploited right now with someones father. Close your eyes and think of it that way. Not that it may be a Democrat or a Republican, do you think she cares who he voted for???

  • Posted By: wolfpack @ 11/10/2008 9:20:36 PM

    Eliot Spitzer needs to cool his heels in jail for awhile and pay a fat fine...It's interesting that the little wimp
    thinks because he quit his job, shed a tear on national television, and caught heat from his wife that HE shouldn't have to face the same consequences as anyone else caught doing the same thing as he was. He "cracked down" on prostitutes and their customers a few years ago in his state, and now it's time for him to eat his own cooking..

    • Posted By: BrokeButBushFree @ 11/12/2008 6:38:55 PM


      The guy cracked down on human trafficking rings.. unless Ashley Dupre was kidnapped by the PATH train taking her across the hudson river she was an upstanding American girl happily and PROFITABLY selling her considerable sexual skills to clients more than willing to pay the price she found acceptable. Not a street hooker.. not an underaged trafficked girl... Nobody's going to put Spitzer in jail and nobody's going to discover who clients no. 8 or 10 are either. This was a wall street political hit pure and simple.. but they got upended last month so best let bygones be bygones. Want to get into something... try to get an investigation going into what these wall street banks were doing.. like Spitzer DID!

  • Posted By: imjollyjohn @ 11/12/2008 6:38:08 PM

    "prostitution arises out of adverse social conditions such as being sexually abused in childhood, poverty, racism, lack of educational and economic opportunities, disability, and a culture that increasingly commodifies girls"

    Sounds to me like Prostitution is a symptom of several problems, but not a problem in itself. You cant get rid of prostitution simply by outlawing it and coming down hard on its practitioners and customers. Thats a feel-good measure to satisfy your moral standing. Yes its bad, and for all the reasons stated. But the only sure way to end prostitution is to solve the problems that give rise to it.

  • Posted By: Driensnews @ 11/12/2008 6:37:51 PM

    Why is it that Mr. ex-Gov Spitzer gets off scott free? He broke his OWN law and all he gets is a free ride home.It's absolutely shameful and just goes to show you that if you have money and friends/family in high places-you don't have to worry about a thing. And what is up with his wife? Does she feel that it's her fault that he strayed? It IS NOT!! He's the PIG (LITERALLY)

  • Posted By: MsGingerRogers @ 11/12/2008 6:21:18 PM

    I think it's laughable how incapable many men are when it comes to the effect of prostitution and human trafficking on women. We now have a black president in office, I think women are still suffer as a sex. Hilary Clinton was a determined woman and because she ran for office she faced the criticism any woman receives when they are passionate about some thing. That they are not feminine and over bearing. I think it's disgusting that a blind eye was turned away from the law. State officials are blessed with wealth and power, in return they are to represent the citizens of this country. They poorly do so and disregard the laws they are supposed to be upholding and in return no punishment is given. This makes me sick.

    • Posted By: TalkSoup @ 11/12/2008 6:36:12 PM

      quit bitchin

      When the right woman runs for office, she'll get in. Not BECAUSE it's a woman, but In spite of being a woman.

  • Posted By: rickky @ 11/12/2008 6:35:58 PM

    Spitzer is an IDIOT, a DISGRACE, a MISTRUST to the public and should be THROWN IN JAIL where he belongs, however, he probably paid off his friends to stop that. SPITZER IS THE REASON THAT AMERICA IS SUCH IN A DOWN DISGRACE, SPITZER AND EVERYONE LIKE HIM NEEDS TO BE THROWN OUT OFF OFFICE and THROWN IMMEDIATELLY IN JAIL. If he was in China, he would be SHOT in the head immediatelly.

  • Posted By: jaredgarrett @ 11/12/2008 6:35:57 PM

    Well done. Prostitution is just one of many absolutely perverted practices of today, which our society has collectively decided to call a social issue or concern. No, it is a worldwide practice that debases, destroys and debilitates women and also gives men false and damaging expectations regarding sexual relationships.

    Well done I say.

  • Posted By: articmink @ 11/12/2008 6:35:55 PM

    Well the fact the laws make it Illegal and some get prosecuted and some don't is the issue and he should be prosectued because he is a public servant and should be setting an example a good one, not one that as a politician I can do what I want and all the laws be damned.

  • Posted By: chuck76 @ 11/12/2008 6:35:51 PM

    It's not really a surprise that he gets a pass. If he had been a republican it would have been another story.

  • Posted By: 1farley @ 11/12/2008 5:42:02 PM

    Well, this just proves that there is a seperate set of rules for the Democrats. They can lie, cheat, steal and commit adultery without ANY fear of being held accountable for their actions.
    You'll all find out once Dear Leader is coronated that the common man will be nothing but cannon fodder for the government machine.
    And for all of you who think that the God-almighty Europeans are any better, I don't see YOU running to France to have a better life and achieving Nirvana.
    Thank you for flushing our Country down the drain.
    Maybe it's YOU who needs to grow up a little

    • Posted By: captrrr @ 11/12/2008 6:34:04 PM

      Wow, I can see by your comments that you are truly a deep thinker, or maybe not. Since you insist on making this partisan does anyone remember Larry Craig? Mark Foley? David Vitter? Didn't little David recieve a "standing O" from his repugrican cohorts? Weren't they all republicans? (These are the ones I could remember that had to do with that dirty sex.) Funny how short the republican memory is...OOOh! What's that shiney object over there...?!

  • Posted By: tiredofwastingtime @ 11/12/2008 6:33:55 PM

    This guy admitted what he and while he did resign, was basically forced to leave office. Punishment enough. Or do his nads belong in jar of formaldehyde somewhere?

  • Posted By: rickky @ 11/12/2008 6:33:23 PM

    Spitzer is an IDIOT, a DISGRACE, a MISTRUST to the public and should be THROWN IN JAIL where he belongs, however, he probably paid off his friends to stop that. SPITZER IS THE REASON THAT AMERICA IS SUCH IN A DOWN DISGRACE, SPITZER AND EVERYONE LIKE HIM NEEDS TO BE THROWN OUT OFF OFFICE and THROWN IMMEDIATELLY IN JAIL. If he was in China, he would be SHOT in the head immediatelly.

  • Posted By: Mr Alveezy @ 11/12/2008 6:08:18 PM

    Its too bad that the girl involved wasn't a Pitbull instead. Then maybe PETA would've got involved and this slimy politician wouldn't have got away.

    Fortunately for him she's only a human

    • Posted By: BrokeButBushFree @ 11/12/2008 6:33:07 PM

      Not only is she not a pitbull as pitbulls go back to Alaska where they belong. No. our girl is mulling several juicy offers.. she was no "poor victimized victim" but rather a middle class gal who is rather sexy and was selling her goods on the market for TOP DOLLAR. Spitzer wasn't a penny short either.. unfortunately he was too much of a schmendrick for counting out these fees to the last penny all by himself instead of having some fixer do it like the Republicans do. Spitzer was the ONLY guy out there protecting the small investor and shareholders in this whole wall street mess and the big wigs got him before they got got! But the Wall Streeters will keep their wealth and will be in line in a few weeks for the FULL MEASURE of their yearly bonuses. So that's what happens in America... the guilty rich and powerful are unmasked and quietly escorted away to their limos. Meanwhile Newsweek, whose nose is brown with its kowtowing to "King Henry" and the Wall Street powerbroking thieves who Spitzer was about to flambe, decides to paint its nose blue and express shock.. SHOCK. that the crime of women selling their bodies goes unpunished. Stay tuned for next week's Britney Spears cover!

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