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  • Posted By: billgates @ 11/12/2008 9:00:57 PM

    I strongly believe that we in america have confused immorality with criminality.

  • Posted By: NotAgain @ 11/12/2008 8:59:18 PM

    Outrageous and disgusting; this man committed a crime.

  • Posted By: jmrec100 @ 11/12/2008 8:58:51 PM

    This whole scandal is a decoy from the real controversy. He was the only one that was unsettling the big boys in his legal probes. Interesting that he went down and his investigations and prosecutions were never continued by anyone else. Whats up with that. He is absolutely stupid for his prostitution involvement. But how about the entire Washington crowd. Believe you me, there is much more and much more seedy actions of our so beloved politicians (sarcastic if you need the clarification). So now who's heading up his former investigation. Oh I know, the same people who are going after the scandals involving our latest economic crisis with the lending institutions, the Fed reserve and YES our politicians (MANY if not ALL) up to their necks in lucrative cash deals. Again, us the public are left with our heads rattling and no trust.
    Sorry this guy has his own issues, but at least he did go after and scare the living daylights out of the criminal thugs robbing our country. Now of course, he is the distraction and never again will we get an answer.

  • Posted By: nocal826 @ 11/12/2008 8:58:38 PM

    There are two ways to look at this mess. Your way, which is completely understandable....or my way. He was the governor of the great state of New York. How many people could ever say that? He left , rightfully so, in disgrace. He has to look at his wife everyday. Everytime someone looks at him they will think of what he did. The day he dies, even if it is in 50 years, his obit will tell people who where yet to be born what he did. His children will carry his shame with him. Sadly, a NYC police officer recently committed suicide for far less. I feel what the ex-governor has to walk around with for the rest of his life is punishment enough.

  • Posted By: Piano Tuna @ 11/12/2008 8:43:29 PM

    He did what he did. Not saying anything about what you think is related matters. He admitted guilt, he should get off because he's sorry? Besides, if the Bush regime was involved & wanted him to stand trial don't you think he would have?

    • Posted By: iSpeak @ 11/12/2008 8:58:36 PM

      If the Bush Administration was involved. They did exactly what they needed to do. Discredit him and get him removed from office. At this point it doesn't matter if he is prosecuted. He didn't get off with a simple apology. His career is over as a result of this. Apparently you are after his freedom as well.

  • Posted By: jmrec100 @ 11/12/2008 8:58:34 PM

    This whole scandal is a decoy from the real controversy. He was the only one that was unsettling the big boys in his legal probes. Interesting that he went down and his investigations and prosecutions were never continued by anyone else. Whats up with that. He is absolutely stupid for his prostitution involvement. But how about the entire Washington crowd. Believe you me, there is much more and much more seedy actions of our so beloved politicians (sarcastic if you need the clarification). So now who's heading up his former investigation. Oh I know, the same people who are going after the scandals involving our latest economic crisis with the lending institutions, the Fed reserve and YES our politicians (MANY if not ALL) up to their necks in lucrative cash deals. Again, us the public are left with our heads rattling and no trust.
    Sorry this guy has his own issues, but at least he did go after and scare the living daylights out of the criminal thugs robbing our country. Now of course, he is the distraction and never again will we get an answer.

  • Posted By: billgates @ 11/12/2008 8:58:25 PM

    i totally agree...prostitution is a victimless crime...it is a business deal between consenting parties and should be dealt in such a manner...If a man wants sex and if a woman is willing to give sex in return for a monetary fee then these two parties should feel free to conduct themselves in such a way. I think that our goverment has confused immorality (what we feel is wrong) with what is a truly a crime (what is a harmful and hanous act on a citizen). We prostitute ourselves on a daily basis; whether it´s to land the man of our dreams or to find the dream job we do it.. Law enforcement should better make use of its resources by combatting true crimes...MURDERS, BANK ROBBERIES, DRUG TRAFFICKING, etc. These are true crimes, crimes that affect society as a whole. Let's remind ourselves that what acts we think are wrong are should not necessarily be crimes under the penal code.

  • Posted By: Dyingbreed @ 11/12/2008 8:57:40 PM

    To solict prostitutes and be caught in most states brings about a minimum, but in a society that politicans, make and right the laws and hold them exempt. Are we now just asking for a revolution, of society, ie about to get totally sick of the double standards. Wasn't it the Romans that sent there warrior (soldiers off to war) when returning home they found that while away the state (banks) had siezed their land and imprisoned or killed their familes are we now on the same course that caused the great fall of Roman?
    If we fail to correct ourselves aren't we allowing ourselves to follow the same pathway?

  • Posted By: NotAgain @ 11/12/2008 8:57:35 PM

    Outrageous and disgusting. This man committed a crime.

  • Posted By: bluethunder018 @ 11/12/2008 8:57:05 PM

    Elliot "idiot" Spitzer should re-pay every penny that was paid to him while serving as Governor of New York due to his hypocrisy acts of Contributing to Prostitution by paying $10,000.00 for cheap sex outside of marriage.

  • Posted By: blogger12401 @ 11/12/2008 8:56:47 PM

    Spitzer is a hypocrit!!! Spent most of his time as NY State's Attorney General bringing down others on false trading allegations --in some cases, and in the case of the man I was working for, ruining him for what Spitzer noted as "insider trading". Spitzer's accusation later proved to be minimal, untrue, to wrong, yet only after the company was sold and the owner, my boss, was left without the empire, dream, he built. For Spitzer to not be tried, jailed, fined for his prostitution actions is ludicrous!!! He is a slime!!!

  • Posted By: tshane @ 11/12/2008 8:44:35 PM

    ispeak - I believe the Bush admin sponsored and requested on more than 20+ occasions that the regulations that were implemented by the Clinton admin be repealed. On every occasion this was shot down with claims the system was fine- nothing wrong at Fannie and Freddie. That this somehow comes on the heals of this man supposedly going to throw his two cents into complaining about the ax getting ready to drop when many members of both parties had been going before both House and Senate committees to try and get reform implemented is taking bush bashing to the limits and lets blame him for the crash coming just when it played to the Dems benefit. Blame Bush for the weather, the pot hole down the street and what else can we lay at his doorstep. I thought all the legislation that governed that industry and for that matter all legal matters came from the legislature that has had Dems in control the past two years.

    • Posted By: iSpeak @ 11/12/2008 8:56:22 PM

      I have a Republican congress in 2004 dropping predatory lending rules established in 2000.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fannie
      I am more than happy to accept a link from you providing evidence of your position.

  • Posted By: ez2rock2 @ 11/12/2008 8:55:38 PM

    Ah, what the hell. Let 'em go. Afterall, this is America. In America "pornography" and "drugs" are our greatest, gross national product. It outsells everything. Combined it makes our world go 'round. We're all hipocrites. Just as long as the prostitute wasn't prosecuted. She could be somebody's mother. The mother of a future Republican mayor.

  • Posted By: tshane @ 11/12/2008 8:55:04 PM

    ergerg - Let's remember legal only if done in strictly regulated locations in Nevada. Doing the same behaviors anywhere but one of those locations and the law would still have been broken. Let's be careful we do not give the impression this is ok throughout the state as many find themselves with a real problem on their hands when busted elsewhere throughout the states many area of other legal fun available to visitors and locals.

  • Posted By: twentyearslong @ 11/12/2008 8:54:54 PM

    Congratulations on avoiding prosecution. NYSUPCT28103-83

  • Posted By: newsreader57 @ 11/12/2008 8:54:48 PM

    Elliot Spitzer needs to be prosecuted simply because it was his job to enforce the very laws he chose to break. It's difficult to teach our children and grandchildren ethically and morally acceptable behavior and values, not to mention respect and dignitiy for other human beings when they constantly see wall street executives, politicians, lobbyists, and some wealthy persons, demonstrate a complete disregard for commonly accepted standards of decency and laws they are charged with enforcing.

  • Posted By: Vicky Gallas @ 11/12/2008 7:54:16 PM

    As an owner of escort services in Orlando for close to 10 years (late 1992 until late 2001), I can assert that trafficking of women is so infrequent in this particular area of the adult industry that I never encountered any situation wherein this was a possibility. Poverty drives the great majority of women that contact an escort service for work. The desire to provide a better life for their children, or for themselves if they have none, is most prevalent.

    Why should Elliot Spitzer be prosecuted? Why should anyone involved be prosecuted? My near decade in the business ended with a malicious prosecution on organized crime charges ??? I took the state to trial and following a two-week trial the jury returned ???not guilty??? verdicts on both counts. In the Spitzer case this ???Kristen??? was not a victim of anyone. Not one escort that I encountered in all of those years was a victim. Each and every one controlled their destiny, and wanted the money. Please do not kid yourselves here.

    • Posted By: PvillePi @ 11/12/2008 8:32:14 PM

      Vicky, the problem here is not whether prostitutes are victims, it is that prostitutes are usually the ones prosecuted and the johns are not. The law is not applied equally. If prostitution is illegal it should apply to both seller and buyer. I agree that economic marginalization is usually the driving factor for women who get into the sex trade, and it's usually because they can make a lot more money than they could cleaning toilets. Prostitution should be decriminalized and until it is, johns should be charged with a crime along with the pros.

      • Posted By: Vicky Gallas @ 11/12/2008 8:54:31 PM

        I do not believe that anyone should be prosecuted, and in my own case I was the only one prosecuted with the exception of a created partner that never existed to begin with. The 4 escorts that I had sent to cops in a near 10 year period of time were threatened and coerced into providing false testimony about me, but not prosecuted. The state never found any clients as I really did barbeque the client lists, and stated exactly that to the jury in testimony. One day I just decided that those lists could do no one any good, not me, not the escorts, and not the clients. Why should anyone be prosecuted? My case is the true example of a waste of taxpayer money for years of investigation and a 2 week trial. Are there not more important things to pursue?

  • Posted By: ajoboy @ 11/12/2008 8:53:23 PM

    "If Government becomes the law breaker, it breeds contempt for the law" Justice Brandeis 1928

  • Posted By: VoiceintheSouth @ 11/12/2008 8:52:17 PM

    I do not even know where to began. This action by the DOJ is beyond replusive. If Spitzer is truely sorry then he himself would tell the courts to persue the case against him, instead of trying to find a way out. All this tells him and so many other "men" like him to go ahead and do it because the justice system is not going to do anything. Plus it sends the message to all the women caught in this a message too, that there is no hope for you either. Like someone else stated, if Obama truely offers change, then do it, change the corruption in the government and I know a good place to start. With Spitzer.

  • Posted By: ergerg @ 11/12/2008 8:49:46 PM

    Eliot spitzers case is subjective to guilt, if he did what he did in Nevada , this would be a trial of hypocricy, but in New Yok its international trade and 20 other felonies.

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