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  • Posted By: georgette @ 11/13/2008 3:40:52 PM

    Posted By: Larrykqc @ 11/13/2008 3:33:03 PM
    Comment: Why is it that the only ones who still talk about Palin are democrats? I believe it is an infatuation. After all , most liberal chicks are butt ugly.


    Have you seen ol' horse-faced neocon Ann Coulter???? Now SHE'S butt ugly - on the outside as well as the inside!!!!

    • Posted By: Larrykqc @ 11/13/2008 4:24:02 PM

      Given i am independent, I'll agree with you on Ann. But, as a guy, I believe Ann would be easier than most of the stiff liberal chick I have know.

      • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/14/2008 8:45:18 AM

        You're doing it wrong.

  • Posted By: brydges @ 11/13/2008 4:07:58 PM

    to bass pro- Please keep preaching the stupidity. Left Wing nazis like yourself will help push people back to the middle where they belong

    • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 11/13/2008 4:14:21 PM

      its funny repubs relate dems and libs to nazis. thats just really funny to me because it doesnt make sense...

      • Posted By: brydges @ 11/13/2008 4:21:08 PM

        Because the Nazis were socialist Like your Black Messiah. Socialism turns into Fascism which can allready be seen by the one sided control of the media like Newsweek

        • Posted By: Janeinthisworld @ 11/13/2008 5:29:18 PM

          Nazis were not true socialists. They only provided benefits to those who were 'with them'. Hmmm, sounds like the republicans.

          Nazis were also racists. What was that 'Black Messiah' crack? Sounds racist to me.

          Nazis as progressive socialists? Nope, sorry, makes no sense. Try again.

          • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/14/2008 8:43:57 AM

            Of course he's a racist.

        • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/14/2008 8:43:29 AM

          The Nazis were far-right wing extremists, you idiot. Turn off Rush Limbaugh and read a book.

          For Chrissakes.

          LOL.

        • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/13/2008 5:32:57 PM



          "brydges": You continue to display your ignorance and persistent application of random and inapplicabe epithets. FYI, the Nazi propaganda machine started with accusing everyone else a a socialist, and presented itself as the only alternative. Socialism and Naziism are mutually exclusive.

          You, your kind, and your ignorant hysterical demonization of all others continue to digust, appall and drive away us long term moderate republicans.

          If you are representative, and you certainly out number the moderates who continue to speak out for the party, then the party is doomed.

          Go ahead. Continue to call me names, challenge my party affiliation, intelligence and patriotism, and continue to drive away me and the other moderates who read these posts.


          A 40 year republican who voted for Obama after never having crossed party lines.


        • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 11/13/2008 5:09:43 PM

          FASCISM:

          "A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion." [Robert O. Paxton, "The Anatomy of Fascism," 2004]

          DAMN, that kinda sums up your buddies in the ELITE GOP...well hot damn, good thing im not a fascist, that would be embarassing...

          and:

          noun
          1. an adherent of fascism or other right-wing authoritarian views

          let me emphasize....RIGHT WING AUTHORITARIAN VIEWS....RIGHT WING....RIGHT WING....RIGHT WING...

        • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 11/13/2008 5:03:25 PM

          if you havent noticed, half the country has socialistic institutions that have been around for probably a hundered+ years...ever hear of social security? no, well maybe the fire department? no...hmmm...police department? nothing yet? well how about medicare? how do you think our roads and infrastructure gets repaired? your taxes. hmmm sounds a little socialist to me...maybe all of america is a bunch of nazis socialist commies since we are all taking part when we pay our taxes... or is it unamerican? or wait, is it patriotic instead? hmmm i just cant figure out what your trying to say to me...

        • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 11/13/2008 5:00:06 PM

          Brydges: You may find the following definitions from the Merriam-Webster dictionary instructive. Or not.

          Socialism: a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property; b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

          Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

          The Nazi's were clearly Fascists, but not Socialists.

          Obama is neither.

          Newsweek is free to print anything it wishes, just as Fox News is free to broadcast anything is wishes. This is called freedom of the press, and is common in socialist countries just as it is here in American. A fascist society, by contrast, would not allow anything approaching freedom of the press, or most other freedoms we take for granted.

          You are free to express your opinions, but you might sound more informed if you expressed accurate ones.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/14/2008 8:42:46 AM

      Yeah, we've been told that. Usually by bitter republicans that can't get over the fact that America no longer wants to hear their message of hate.

    • Posted By: 2cents @ 11/13/2008 5:11:16 PM

      Brydges, are you so far to the right that Nazis are on your left?!

      You are in need of a serious education, guy. Get with the program, loser. Or should I call you a sissy instead?

  • Posted By: brydges @ 11/13/2008 4:18:27 PM

    And you should learn from your own words. Why are you allowed to talk down to people. Misguided morality is voting for an empty suit in Black Democrat costume. The man may very well turn out to be a good president, but with the blind faith and ignorance that got him elected why should he even try. For once I would just like to see the elitist (like you most likely are) hold yourselves to the same standards you set for everyone else

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/14/2008 8:41:16 AM

      " Why are you allowed to talk down to people."

      It's that whole 1st amendment thing.

      " Misguided morality is voting for an empty suit in Black Democrat costume."

      No, misguided morality is thinking that you're so perfect that you have time to worry about what consenting adults do in their own bedroom.

    • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 11/13/2008 5:21:23 PM

      im waiting for your wonderful comment back on my post... or are you too elite and stuck up to talk to a little old peasant boy?

    • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 11/13/2008 4:50:23 PM

      elitist? wow, now your judging me based off of a few paragraphs...hmmmm is elitist where you graduate from community college and work 2 jobs in an attempt to start your own business at the age of 21, on top of being in several music groups? am i an elitist when i volunteer months at a time in other countries in orphanages and hospitals from india/indonesia/cambodia/africa? am i an elitist when i dont have a flat screen tv, a $30,000 car, a home that i own, jewelry, and $1,000 suits? am i an elitist because i voted democrat?

      answer: i think not.

      but, according to your twisted logic, apparently, i am. and according to your logic im probably a nazi socialist commie bastard with no morals or values... thats how sadly much of the GOP party has labeled us that voted obama.

      and as far as elitism, would you settle for a mediocre surgeon to perform an operation on your brain? would you settle for mediocre atheletes representing the US in the olympics or in professional sports? would you settle for mediocre astronauts? would you settle for mediocre scientists creating cures for diseases? you dont enjoy watching mediocre actors for entertainment, unless its sarah palin. would you settle for a mediocre plan to go into war(well, you probably did do that)? a mediocre fiscal policy(well, from the looks of things, you settled for that too)? a mediocre attitude? a mediocre employee working for you? would you actually be happy with a mediocre president or leader you could have a beer with(i think the leader of the free world would have more important things to do than down a sixer of pabst blue ribbon, but what do i know. but then again, you voted bush twice, so you are comfortable with our president getting drunk in the oval office, or maybe a little blow up the nose over at camp david.)?

      answer: no.

      i would think that if they were ELITE they would represent the BEST we offer for intelligence and integrity and charisma. we should never feel comfortable with mediocrity (although there is nothing wrong with it in and of itself) when making decisions that affect not only our country, but the world community. i garuntee people in other countries with voting systems arent comfortable with Joe Six Pack running they're country, why is it ok in ours?



  • Posted By: varacefan @ 11/13/2008 4:32:36 PM

    Hay Dems!!! You guys won!!! I am starting to believe you guys just like being pissed. The world will be good in just a few more weeks. You should be as happy as pigs in slop!(even without lipstick)

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/14/2008 8:39:36 AM

      Naw. It's gonna take a while to repair all of Bush's damage.

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/13/2008 8:07:26 PM



    This article shows that the party is not able to figure out (or publicly state) what went wrong. On Fox 'News' and others all I have heard is focus on 'what the party will do to reach out to the right wing', and to the right wing religionists.

    Party leaders are either overwhelmed with the noisy right wing demands, or they are afraid of them. A major problem is considering extremists as 'the base'. Moderates used to be the base. Moderates do not want to be a minority adjunct to militant radicals who hate.

    Another main reason moderates crossed party lines was the extensive lies, smears, misrepresentations, distortions and fear- and hate-mongering, including in the ubiquitous anonymous emails. What was basically the one 'black baby' smear that McCain attributed to the Bush 2000 campaign, grew to a scope and volume never seen before.

    It commenced and grew after McCain hired the Bush operatives. It manifested itself into the open campaign (including the encouragement by Palin of hate cries at rallies), and continued into that tv blitz over the last days of the campaign. It was rejected this election. The lesson must be learned. It has corrupted the system we honor.

    Those smears and falsehoods worked on the LIVs and the unthinking 'base' as shown by the repetition of them even now in these blogs, despite that they were refuted and debunked in reliable news and debunk websites. This also did, and continues to embarrass, dismay and repel thinking and informed moderates and conservatives alike who abhor lies, hate mongering and name calling of all others, which still are constantly hurled even at us moderates.

    Jindal said that while it's tempting for Republicans to come up with excuses or to blame the media, he believes Americans fired the party with cause.

    Jindal said: "Our bumper sticker message can't be vote Republican because the other side is worse. American voters are right to say: 'We demand competence, we demand solutions'."

    "The Republican Party is no longer the party of fiscal discipline." That is true. McC himself could not identify a single difference from Bush on fiscal or tax policy. Worse, he wanted to continue the tax give away to the rich he called "irresponsible" and voted against. And he proposed more tax give aways to oil.

    But Jindal left out the most important factor for the moderates I know. We do not want to be in a party whose 'base' is radical extremists and religiofascists who embrace and engage in lies hate- and fear-mongering.

    The party must choose whether it wants to limit itself to them. The result will be a small party that continues to lose elections by increasing margins. Or it can restore the centrist/moderates to be the base, cease the corrupt propaganda, and let the extremists vote the party because they consider it the closer party to their ideology.

    A 40 year republican who crossed party lines for the first time to vote Obama

    • Posted By: Braes @ 11/13/2008 8:44:51 PM

      I left the party of my family years earlier over the same reasons. At first I voted Perot.
      My family were all Republicans going back Generations. Before then, Whig. (Dad's side) My Mom was a Southern Democrat. I am now a Southern Democrat, living a few miles from where my mom was born.
      The theocratic types are the biggest turn off. The hate flingers on talk radio will keep the party marginalized for decades if someone doesn't yank their chain and decide that sponsoring this stuff will extend the stench of Bushism well past the fatal damage point.
      If my company was advertising on radio, it sure wouldn't be associated with any of the talk monsters.
      They lost me with the RINO crap and Newt/DeLay/Armey. When they slandered McCain for the win in 2000 the dissonance was insurmountable. John was a far better man than his campaign allowed. The Neo Cons and bigots do me in.

      • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/13/2008 9:15:53 PM



        "Braes": Thank you for this and your other posts. The so-called 'base' disgusts and scares the P out of me. It is not healthy for these bigots, ignorants, dupes and crazies to control any party. FYI, I emailed my post to Jindal's governernor website. Perhaps he can use our concerns to fight back the delusion that pandering to these bottom dwellers serves anyone's interests. Thanks again.

        • Posted By: reinadelaz @ 11/14/2008 5:56:17 AM

          I am another who crossed party line to vote Obama in rejection of the politics of fear and smear. I only hope enough of us jumped ship for them to return to the principles of personal freedom and fiscal responsibility. The the stranglehold the radical Christians have on the party needs to be broken if we are to remain a viable political party. Extremism of any kind is not healthy. In the final week ,McCain's campaign even stated they were counting on low-information voters to turn out for them. I do not want my country to be ruled by the ignorant.

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/14/2008 12:41:14 AM



    Cowardly, lying blowhard "Blackcourt":

    If you are not just a cowardly, lying blowhard, you will keep your promise and post what you said you would at the Grassroots article.

    A 40 year republican who detests ignorant, cowardly, lying, propaganda dupe blowhards

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  • Posted By: Braes @ 11/13/2008 8:06:47 PM

    To the Loyal Opposition,
    Yes the Brand is looking a little rough. You can quickly rebound however. As you can see by the rush to arms themselves to the gills, and the transition team questionaire for applicants: "Do you or anyone in your family own guns" there are valid 2nd amendment differences to play on. While I doubt Obama is going to try and outlaw weapons only out of pragmatism, I do figure he is no friend of the personal right of self defense, concealed carry, sport shooting, etc. I also am really offended by the existing question on his 7 page vetting form. Frankly, no ones gun ownership is anyones busines, including the President Elect. The 2nd Amendment is an R brand issue and you already have the lobby and broad support here.
    Seperation of Church and State/Civics: Even Reagan avoided the pitfalls of the far right while allowing them in the big tent. When it came to actual legislation he nearly ignored them. He also tended to appoint people who were competent. The Bush pandering to Liberty University graduates put a lot of really poorly schooled people in high places. Monica Goodling comes to mind. You need to recover the secular R's Think small government/libertarianism.
    The tax dog won't hunt anymore. Nor will drill drill drill. You must abandon the mantras and become a party that is for something again. When Reagan didn't have anything positive to say, he was smart enough to shut up, and make glossy "Morning in America" commercials. The "Bear in the Woods" commercial followed this line. Talk about grand diferences, and stay away from the personal filthy Atwater/Rove crap.
    Come out hard for Liberty. The fact that your party ran the 4th and 8th amendments through the shredder and tortured people can be gotten past in 4 years. Not in 2, maybe in 4. Lose wars on drugs/crime/anything mantras. Crime is crime, and war is war. The brand now is scary statist, and has enough war on baggage and zealotry.
    If the Democratic Party (DNC) overreaches and is not checked by the moderate (DLC/Blue Dog) wing they will self destruct in dramatic fashion. This election was a full repudiation of Bush. McCain didn't lose, Bush did. McCain adopted the Bush platfrsm and philosophies and they drowned him, but just below the waterline in enough states that a few points difference would have made all of the difference in the world. The Palin-bounce was enough to demonstrate this, Obama's support was soft in much of America. Palin turning out to be as shallow intellectually as the current occupant of 1600 Penn. was your parties undoing. If Mr. McCain had run a McCain campaign, devoid of the Neo Cons, the GOP might have carried NC/VA/OH/NV/PA/MI/FL/IN and possibly Iowa, Oregon, Minnesota New Hampshire and Vermont. (These on just libertarianism over statism.) Best of luck.

  • Posted By: Apolitical @ 11/13/2008 7:18:42 PM

    I strongly recommend that Palin be 2012 Presidential candidate. The country needs a good laugh for her interviews and a continuing comedic materials for late night shows.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 11/13/2008 6:56:53 PM

    Sarah Palin Running for President !!!!!

    Ha !!

    Did Palin SEE the STATES in which she an John McCain WON ??

    Southern, Mountainous, Rural, Appalachian & Mid-Western States !!!

    She Caters to the Fearful & Uneducated...

    Look for Mitt Romney-Tim Pawlenty ...

    Tim Pawlenty-Jindal...Romney-Huckabee...

    Huckabee-Jindal...

    Huckabe-Pawlenty,

    Charlie Crist...Maybe, but he may be a [Log Cabin Republican]

    Then Throw in the ....

    Fat A!! Whore Monger, Southern Immoral, Republican....

    Newt Gingrich for Big laughs an even Bigger Let Down in 2012.....

    Now Imagine Sarah Palin on a stage answering Questions, "The way she wants to" against the men I just listed above....

    She won't make it...she can't cut it and she needs to keep her Alaskan A!! where she can say and do ...Anything and thats not washington D.C.....

    Thats Alaska

    Note: Alaskan Senator Lisa Murkowski has the Legal Background & Political Pedigree on her side and she's Pro-Choice, something the Republicans Desperately NEED, to cater to the CENTER...

    Murkowski could also stand her own against the Republican Men, I just mentioned above and not look or Sound ..STUPID during the process

    Sarah Palin: "The EarMarks Queen of the Frozen Tundra" ...

    Sarah Palin: "The Alaskan Baroness of Pork Barrell Spending"

    Sarah Palin: "The Alaskan Windfalls Profiteer of the Atric Wasteland"

    Give me an the Free Thinking World a Damn Break, From The "Moose Stew Mistress"

  • Posted By: Spacer @ 11/13/2008 1:58:07 PM

    brydges "In 1929 F.D.R when on T.V. to calm American's fears about hte financial market" Joe Biden - For the uneducated There was no television and F.D.R. was not president. Why was this kept out of the media?"

    If it was kept out of the media, then how did you know about it? Biden says some dumb things sometimes, but he doesn't do it ALL the time like Sarah Palin.

    • Posted By: brydges @ 11/13/2008 2:06:56 PM

      Can you give a palin example

      • Posted By: Spacer @ 11/13/2008 2:17:13 PM

        How about when she said it was the Vice President's job to run the Senate in her debate with Biden? That comment was not just dumb, it was SCARY dumb. She doesn't even understand the constitutional basis of the position she was running for.

        • Posted By: 4astrongamerica @ 11/13/2008 6:26:47 PM

          She didn't say "run". The following is an exerpt from the transcript of the debate.
          "And that's not only to preside over the Senate and will take that position very seriously also. I'm thankful the Constitution would allow a bit more authority given to the vice president if that vice president so chose to exert it in working with the Senate and making sure that we are supportive of the president's policies and making sure too that our president understands what our strengths are." If you'll compare her answer to Article 1, Section 3, Clause 1 of the US Constitution, she is exactly right.
          She said "run" to a young child that wouldn't know what preside means. Since the Constitution actually refers to the Vice President as the President of the Senate and since the President kindof RUNS things, even that response wasn't a huge leap. Liberals need to stop making up crap and flat out lying about her. If you don't know what the hell you're talking about then just shut up!

        • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/13/2008 2:26:04 PM

          Fact #1: She got her ass kicked by Katie "Fluffmeister" Couric.

          Fact #2: If you can't manage Katie Couric (fer Chrissakes), you are not fit for office.

      • Posted By: mcleodmn @ 11/13/2008 2:09:43 PM

        Hahahaha! You're kidding, right?

        • Posted By: brydges @ 11/13/2008 2:18:11 PM

          Thanks for proving my point. Do yourselves a favor and hate a canidate for what you lern about them. Be your own person and make your own opinion, following the status quo is sheepish and imature.

          • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 11/13/2008 4:08:50 PM

            and you should learn from your own words.... you continually support failed policies and misguided morality if you voted bush back into office, and i already know you did. that was following the herd if anything... just now your flock lost a few sheep, well, a few million, but hey a loss is a loss...

            the GOP is down and out and they (and you) have 4 years to prove worthy again, you have another chance so dont get down about it.

            and why is following the pack immature i wonder even if the pack actually has some depth and good ideas? are you guilty of it? hell yes. are humans guilty of it? hell yes. your holding yourself pretty high, and that makes for a long fall... which we saw in the case of McCain and Palin and the whole GOP party across the united states in almost every facet of government.

            again, your party tried, failed, and will be back in 4 years. so go out and volunteer, donate money, organize, go door to door to support your candidates. and if you dont do that, then what place do you have to complain or take shots at dems if your not helping your party succeed beyond trying to talk down to everyone here?

            i donated, supported, spread the word, got involved and i think i made a difference albeit a small difference.

          • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 11/13/2008 3:58:15 PM

            i learned that sarah palin shouldnt even have the power of a vacuum cleaner in her hand much less the power of presidency or vice presidency for that matter.... and i dont hate her, i dont like her because shes an inept candidate. and i watched and read everything that has come out of her mouth over the last 3 months so i learned alot about her. and so did 65 million voting americans...

      • Posted By: Pro-choice voter @ 11/13/2008 2:22:18 PM

        If you saw the interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN, he asked ONE substantive question: what did she think of the idea to bail out the auto companies. Her answer was similar to those she gave in the Couric interview in that she just started running off at the mouth, not answering the question, and making no sense. She filled space with any random words that came into her head. Watching that made me think that she is not even smart enough to learn from past mistakes - scary.

    • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 11/13/2008 2:09:59 PM

      AND when he says something stupid its not monumentally stupid. its usually slips of the toungue, things us "average" folk do everyday. but Palin is just genuinely lost i think, she couldnt handle the press, couldnt handle interviews, crying the media is "brutal", and she doesnt understand what all the hubbub is about when she misteps and says "well on foreign policy, our neighbors are russia, you know, and well, i can sort of, you know, see russia from this island somewhere in this big ole state here, gee, i never thought about foreign policy i spose. golly, maybe i should pay my foreign policy adviser more than my stylist? i betcha thatll do the trick, ill have to get back to you on that issue. did i mention i went to like 5 different colleges or something like that? yea i have a problem with the whole 'following through' with stuff thing." (obviously she didnt say that, but from everything ive read, it wouldnt be far off). and then the media jumps on her like rabid dogs and rips her apart...HELLO...that happens to people everyday in and out of politics. if she couldnt handle the attention during a campaign than how is she going to handle foreign leaders, agressive nations, the whole country pullin on her coat tails if she ever got to be president? she would explode in an orgasmic aura of lipstick and hockey pucks... "sorry yall, golly, i didnt know trying to run the free world would be harder than running lil ol alaska...maybe i shouldve studied for the test...at least i have my guns and ammo magazine to read until this all blows over"

      • Posted By: 4astrongamerica @ 11/13/2008 4:51:20 PM

        Many of your comments are hilarious. If Sarah Palin were as irrelevant as you claim she is, then you wouldn't be talking about her. Sarah Palin may not have been the best VP choice for this election, but she is far from being an idiot or inane as I keep hearing. It is amazing to me that so many liberals refuse to acknowledge her experience as Governor of Alaska and dismiss her as uneducated and inarticulate. Unless any of you have ascended to such a high office, lead a major energy commision, or run for VP of the United States, then failing to give her credit makes you look really hypocritical since you voted for Obama with approximately the same experience. It's not like Governorships are just handed out to anyone and everyone. I'm not saying that she is my favorite Republican leader, but I am saying that you're doing her a favor if you continue to think that she is simply getting her 15 minutes of fame and is irrelevant. She definitely has a long career ahead of her and will be a force to be reckoned with.

        • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 11/13/2008 5:34:33 PM

          and i never thought she was irrelevant, and im sure shes capable of governing a state half the size of the united states, with only 600,000 residents. and right now she is gettin her 15 minutes of fame, and she will use it for a platform to gain political clout in the future... thats how it works...

        • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 11/13/2008 5:29:13 PM

          thanks i thought my comments were funny too, you can thank miz palin for the material...shes just such an inspiration for an aspiring comedian...

          i do agree with you tho, she will have a long career and she will be a force to be reckoned with, OUTSIDE the whitehouse. this election hurt her chances of running for presidency really badly, any interview shes done has hurt her BADLY...

  • Posted By: PCfixnerd @ 11/13/2008 5:58:40 PM

    Perhaps they should also realize that when they use obvious lies, slander, and deceit we the voters come to the conclusion that nothing they say is worthy of note. Basic principles of honesty, integrity, are one thing they are truly lacking. How many times has Bush and Cheney done things that are contrary to the principles of our founding fathers . . . and when told that the voters are against it , they say "so?" and indicate they don't care 2 cents about what the voters think. If the Republicans would have banded together to reject all that Bush was doing, they would have been heroes. But instead they made a great show of support for his evil deeds. And now they are surprised?

  • Posted By: brydges @ 11/13/2008 3:44:52 PM

    to Janeinthisworld - How sad to be so narrow minded and unable to admit when your wrong

    • Posted By: Janeinthisworld @ 11/13/2008 5:31:01 PM

      Yes, it is. But I don't expect you to admit you're wrong anytime soon.

  • Posted By: georgette @ 11/13/2008 3:39:09 PM

    "Why is it that the only ones who still talk about Palin are democrats? I believe it is an infatuation. After all , most liberal chicks are butt ugly."

    Have you seen horse-faced Ann Coulter????? Talk about butt ugly...inside AND out!

    • Posted By: mcleodmn @ 11/13/2008 4:46:27 PM

      It seems like her face caught on fire and someone put it out with a pitch fork....

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/13/2008 3:52:55 PM

      I've always wondered if Ann was reallly a woman. My wife pointed out to me that she/he has an Adam' Apple and said women don't usually have one.

      Does anyone remember when she said that the Christian Evangelicals were the Anti-Christ? I'm thinking when she was backing Bush in his first run for the whitehouse. How did she manage to survive that?

  • Posted By: Larrykqc @ 11/13/2008 3:17:39 PM

    Get back to fiscal responsibility. Given that Congress passes both apropriations and expenditures, one may note that the democratic congress created more deficit spending in 2007-2008 that all the first six years of Bush's terms. They created more deficit spending in October - $237B - that Bush did in all of 2006.

    • Posted By: jsteve7 @ 11/13/2008 4:27:07 PM

      We will never get anywhere in solving our fiscal problems as long as the hard core Republican wing nuts like this refuse to hold up the mirror. These types watch Republicans preach fiscal conservatism during elections and then act incredibly fiscally irresponsibe when in office. Then, when sitting in the rubble resulting from these policies, they cast blame everywhere but themselves. This ridiculous, tired, and lame argument about blaming Congress because they technically "spend the money" shows a lack of understanding of the ENTIRE prcess of government budgeting. It should always be remembered that the executive branch writes every year's budget and submits to congress for approval. Congress almost always makes relatively minor adjustments to this (although Congress in the 80's acted to REDUCE several of the budgets submited by Reagan). So, the spending adjenda is mostly set by the president and his administration. As an example, Bush starts an idiodic war and then DEMANDS congress spend WHAT EVER HE ASKS on it. Several times a Democratic revolt is attempted to NOT spend this money only to be stoped by Republicans as they shout things like "you don't support the troops". So, PLEASE, stop with the crap about blaming the BUSH/REPULICAN fiscal irresponsibility on Congress.

  • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/13/2008 3:44:41 PM

    what's to rebuild? The GOP party of hate has achieved the ultimate goal for which it has aspired for the last 20 years. Virtually everyone who can think for themselves has rejected them. 2012 will be the icing on the cake for those stupid enough to be led by some of the most dispicable scum the world has had the misfortune to produce. Hannity, Limbaugh, Morris, Matelin, Barnes, Hume, Robertson, Hagee, dobson and the several dozen other misfits who have pulled the strings of the puppets of the Republican bases will do it once again. This time it will mean the GOP will disappear into the shadows and assume third party status, which is an overachievement for them.

    When they cuddle up in their Sleep Number bed and listen to their Bose radio, they can be satisfied that they did all they could to spread hate and corruption. This time and every time from now on, the GOP party of hate will be met with force. President Obama has shown them for what they are and easily parried their lies and distortion and "carpet bombed" them with the one weapon they neither understand or can defend themselves from, the truth !

    What's left of the party after 2012 can build a compound is Louisana and merge with the KKK, assuming the KKK will have them.

    • Posted By: varacefan @ 11/13/2008 4:16:31 PM

      Funny! After reading your post it appears to me that it is you who is filled with hate. You should consider walking away from things for awhile and give yourself a chance to heal. In case you don't know your side won. Enjoy It!

  • Posted By: quinnmiller @ 11/13/2008 4:07:03 PM

    The Republican brand is beyond repair. The two major factions have opposing goals and can no longer coexist under one banner. The libertarians should leave the GOP and join the Libertarian party. The theocrats should rebrand the Republican party and openly express their desire to transform our constitutional democracy into a fascistic dictatorship under the "divine" guidance of Pat Robertson or Benny Hinn.

  • Posted By: Sane in Utah @ 11/13/2008 12:35:05 PM

    I'm not sure why Republicans keep embracing anti-intellectuals. For God's sake, we've spent the last 8 years trying to forget that not so smart people put a not so smart guy they wanted to have a beer with at the helm of the greatest country in the world. My, how far we have fallen these past 8 years. God help us all if Sarah Palin continues to dominate the news cycle. She seems to be a nice gal, a gal I'd like to have a beer with, but never, in my wildest nightmares, would I want her to be responsible for anything more than taking my dog out for a walk. And let's face it, being Governor of Alaska is something a chimp could do. Alaska's budget is balanced as long as oil does not fall below $70/bbl. A governor in Alaska can always tax the oil companies (which she did, by the way, Republicans) and then send out bribe checks to its citizens. The problem Palin faces now is that oil is below $70/bbl. and she may be looking at a shortfall and not being able to pass out checks to the voters there. Let's see how popular she is if that happens.

    • Posted By: Blackcourt79 @ 11/13/2008 2:28:26 PM

      If a chimp could do it what does that say for you? Some people just don't think before they speak. Open mouth... insert foot.

  • Posted By: brydges @ 11/13/2008 1:22:15 PM

    to Doc Howl- Truth hurts, but many people who voted for Obama only knew two things about him, Black and Democrat.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/13/2008 2:22:02 PM

      Prove it.

    • Posted By: klebrun @ 11/13/2008 1:59:18 PM

      Comment: The four worst financial disasters of the last 100 years have come at the end of Republican administrations that have aggressively promoted deregulation in the financial markets.

      The Great Depression starting in 1929 came during the third consecutive Republican term, the October 1987 stock market crash and the Savings and Loan disaster surfaced in the second Reagan term and the current financial market disaster in Bush???s second term.

      One more Republican administration should reverse the flow of job seekers from Mexico into the US. I can just see the Mexican drug dealers in their guard towers shooting the American wetbacks seeking low paying jobs in Mexico as they cross the Rio Grande.

    • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 11/13/2008 1:47:22 PM

      well there are alot of people that voted for him on the issues as well, like a bunch of INFORMED repubs i know... they voted for him not just because of his color (in many cases this did happen, but for a reason. it shows signs of progression and a positive outlook that a man of color took the presidency. you change peoples attitude from grass root levels and you can change the world, but it has to start with changing peoples minds and attitudes.) but because of his message. people polarized to it. people want a positive person, not the negativity and flustered look the GOP had during the last year and a half. and people largely voted democrat across the board from the senate to the house to mayors and treasures of small towns... why? because the GOP made a bad name for itself over the last 8 years (longer than that if you want to get really technical) and the average voter became upset with the way our (formerly) large republican base of government was operating.

      yes hes BLACK (HALF BLACK) and hes a DEMOCRAT...but people see a bigger spectrum than that, most anyway. im positive there are people that didnt vote for him because he was black and a democrat and voted for mccain because they feel secure with a white old republican. which is totally fine. but your speaking in double standards....it goes both ways

  • Posted By: Loden Green @ 11/13/2008 2:18:49 PM

    The GOP might do better in future elections if its stops taking marching orders from agenda-driven loudmouths such as Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and James Dobson (just to name a few). These types are preaching to an decreasing audience of people who want America to live in the past. John McCain failed utterly to connvince Americans that he had a vision for the future, so he tried to play on the fears that had won past elections for the GOP. That ploy didn't work this time, and it won't work in the future.

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