The Loving Decision

You state "The opponents of gay marriage will tell you that the people have spoken. It's truer to say that money talks. ". Prop 9 passed by 52%. Obama won by 52% (pop vote). If the people "have not spoken" in prop 8, did they speak in the presidential election? Since Obama raised and spent more money than ever, then you could also dismiss his victory as "money talks"?

"The fact is that citizens can oppose homosexual marriage for the reasons I listed or others WITHOUT hating homosexuals or anyone else. You need to come up with a more advanced argumentation technique."

Unless its true, and I dont see you offering any other argument against it. The only explanation which makes sense is homophobia. There has never been any good argument against homosexual marriage, and it works just fine in Massachussets. All arguments resort to religious dogma or ingrained homophobia. You don't always realize you are homophobic either.

Anna really must be living in her special happy place to try to put a positive spin on the absolutely dismal record of gay rights activists on the issue of gay marriage. I mean, how many states DON'T have laws against this? And California - my goodness. That was a death blow. Think all those demonstrators out there beating down old women with crosses are marching because they are encouraged by the nation's voice on this?

What's really got liberals gritting their collective teeth is that the African-American vote turned out 70% in favor of protecting marriage. Weren't expecting that were you?

Mormon money caused this? Sure. Keep selling that snake-oil there, Anna.

Hal Turner: "Marriage is a sacrament, a holy union between a man and a woman."

Turner, you made the PERFECT argument for government staying out of the marriage business, but you're too dumb to realize this.

Most ""holy unions" are between a man and a woman. But not all are. Why do you want the government determining which "holy unions" it should endorse and which it shouldn't?

Shalom,
ZWrite

What this open-minded writer is telling America is that the fall of discrimination and hatred in this country is what is inevitable. She is absolutely right; the only ones who are desperate are the members of the so-called religious right. Sign your name to whatever you want, Joe Turner, but you will still be proven wrong, just like the racists were proven wrong 40 years ago. I'm quite sure that even some of the good people in Santa Fe will tell you that.

Don't compare your sin to my skin.

This is a confusion of differences. Yes, we don't want to consider Caucasian/Negro differencces significant. That does not mean, however that marriage isn't significantly different from perversion. People who haven't been to school want to be college graduates. That doesn't mean they have a "right" to be. Yes, homosexuals can play just the same as normal people; in some places, even adopt children to serve their needs. Society has no need to respect their desires. There's also no point in being confused by love. I love my parents and siblings. That has nothing to do with marriage. Neither does my "love" for hookers or mistresses. Homosexual "marriage" only seems doable because of the trashing we've already done to marriage. Note that pre-marital agreements are necessary, because marriages arent' a matter of faithfulness, anymore. Confusing married couples with queers doesn't help.

There is a big difference between interracial marrige and homo sexual marrige. It's called "what is natural"
The hard cold fact is same sex relationships are disfunctional behavior, making disfunctional behavior socially acceptable makes no sense. no more than making kleptomania legal.
Only a small percentage but very vocal group of Americas supports gay marrige.
There are attempts to make it a partisan political issue but the vote in California is proof that is not the case.

the civil rights act in '64 and loving v. virginia in '67 were not met with anything resembling widespread, "popular" approval. when women were finally allowed to vote in 1918, men weren't doing jigs of happiness in the streets. it is inevitable that gays and lesbians will be allowed to marry and adopt children throughout every state in this country. here's a question for those opposed to it: do you actually know anyone who is gay? any family members? people in the neighborhood? if your answer is no, then you're mistaken. you just happen to know gay people who, for whatever reasons, are not comfortable with being out. perhaps they sense that they live in an unsupportive community . it's taking all my will power not to think that those people against gay marriage are deeply provincial, a tiny bit stupid, and shamefully ignorant. i'll try not to think like that, but it's hard. get to know some homosexuals, people - you're life might be richer for it.

and I'm getting fed up with people suggesting my life - madly in love with another woman - ISN'T normal. We have raised three incredibly happy and well-adjusted children, despite a lack of involvement or financial support from their father who has moved onto his next legal wife. We prefer to have others NOT speculate about what we do behind closed doors. We'll grant you the same courtesty. Beyond that - which is none of your business - our life is no different than anyone else's. We work, we take care of our home, we take care of our kids. All we ask for is the same respect and rights everyone else is afforded.