How to Bail Out General Motors

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  • Posted By: Joeymurray @ 11/20/2008 8:49:47 AM

    After reading this article i concluded that there was one point in the article that I really felt was strong and really showed how Americans feel about the big businesses. I think that the following quote from the article shows how we should deal with the bankruptcy attempts by other companies "but also???by the sacrifices required???to make the process sufficiently unpleasant." I feel that this would be the best course of action for America because if we just have all of the big companies in America thinking that they can just fail and our government will save them this destroys the base of capitalism in which American society is held up upon.

  • Posted By: xhenon @ 11/20/2008 8:49:21 AM

    i dont think its a good idea to give more money to these companys because if they were a good business they wouldnt need the bail out. theres obviousely some reson there ding poorly so lets just let them crash then we can put ths money that were giveing them to a more useful and more needed perpose. some stuff we could use the money for is for the war or to make new jobs that will be more useful instead of one thats failing.

  • Posted By: aaronw @ 11/20/2008 8:48:40 AM

    I think that we should help out GM because of the massive destruction it would do to the US economy. From reading this article I think that we should help out GM because of all the the people that it will hurt. If they did go bankrupt what would we do with the millions of people that will be unemployed? Many other Businesses that rely on GM will be hurt too causing more job loss. Our economy can not take this kind of hit right now, that???s why I think we need to bail the auto makers out. I do not think it is fair that we helped Chrysler back in the 1970's and not help GM today. I think if they made the right legislation the company can be saved without doing major damage to the economy and government.

  • Posted By: ajfizzle @ 11/20/2008 8:48:20 AM

    I believe that the "Big Three" should not be bailed out. By the United States bailing out the Big Three this could create even more problems for our future. Yes it will be very bad in the beginning and lots of jobs could be lost but over time more and more companies will be expected to be bailed out. If we do not bail out the Big Three than this will show other companies that they must have to sacrifice for their actions and if they got to far in debt and can not get out it is their fault. So in the future this will help the economy grow and be strong because they will not rely on the government for help when they get in trouble. The companies must learn from their mistakes.

  • Posted By: Sk8erChiks13@aol.com @ 11/20/2008 8:46:14 AM

    In my opinion the bail out might not be the best idea out there. If the govrnment gives GM a loan it will not even save all of the company and jobs are still going to be lost. The government needs to take that money and give it to every eligible American over the age of 18. This way the citizens will spend their money on something to help stimulate the economy. If an American citizen in Michigan has several thousands of dollars laying around they are either going to buy something to help the economy. Health Care, New Vehicle, House Morgage, or several goods. Either way the money is going to some part of the economy, if they buy a new GM truck more power to them they just help out GM with their debt. Slowly but surely, I believe our parents tried to teach us that growing up, yet no one uses it anymore.

  • Posted By: Christina6103 @ 11/20/2008 8:46:11 AM

    With General Motors' $48 billion dollar debt already, it is unreasonable for them to expect the government, in this economic crisis, to bail them out. As a company, it is their responsibility to make sure that they are doing everything possible to meet the consumers' demands and make the company run smoothly. If we were to loan General Motors the billions of dollars they need, we would be setting an example for every other company. It would give off the impression that if someone else was doing poorly, we would save them, too. GM needs to take responsibility for their failure and fix it fast, or face the consequences. That is how the world works, and they should not expect anything different. I especially disagree with the bailout if it entails using taxpayers' money. That, our country cannot afford, and it is not our responsibility to make up for GM's loss.

  • Posted By: johngorveatte @ 11/20/2008 8:45:34 AM

    The Big 3 must have some sort of government aid to keep our local and national auto industry alive. First, I feel it sad that a "rescue plan" is needed for our economy in the first place. Now that we are talking about the Big Three (especially GM), this issue becomes personal. Living in Michigan, these companies that fuel our state/local economy, these unemployment cuts will affect thousands of jobs and families throughout the state. These proposed changes would not only cripple Michigan's industry but also obliterate many suppliers throughout our nation. Also, the fact that this economic crisis is now in the hands of a new President, the situation becomes a larger one. His resistance to some of the changes that need to be made could become an issue in Congress and in the White House.

  • Posted By: revhank @ 11/19/2008 4:41:14 PM

    Let's retrieve the $14 billion from the Wall Street bail-out that's going directly to executive bonuses and give that to GM. Then let them get the other $11 billion they claim to need from the Russian government. Since they seem to be moving a great deal of their operation there, Mr. Medvedev might be glad to help them out.

  • Posted By: jonesie1984 @ 11/19/2008 3:47:08 PM

    I'm not so sure the government fixing every financial mess is a good thing. America is a nation built upon ingenuity. If we don't have the bright minds to lead companies into the future, it's only natural that they should crumble. Nothing lasts forever. Unfortunately, as a nation we are starting to resemble ancient Rome. The average person lives quite reasonably in America.

    The auto companies must become more resourceful in their production. Creating new products that are affordable and oriented with the future will be crucial. I'm not opposed to the government protecting our market. Why not impose taxes on imported vehicles? To my knowledge, this is not happening, or happening enough. There should be some sort of incentive in buying an American-made vehicle, providing that Big 3 Auto puts out a product we need and want.

  • Posted By: kel0606 @ 11/19/2008 1:48:27 PM

    I think this has sparked so much controversy because of this feeling that the auto industry is so representative of America -- their failure is America's failure. What if Wal-Mart, the world's largest private employer, was in trouble? Many of their suppliers surely would go out of business without Wal-Mart, so I would argue that would be even more far-reaching than a failure of GM. Would you support a government bailout for them out, too? Can you imagine the ROARS of disapproval over something like that? And it's a slippery slope. How much impact does the failure of your company have to have to ask for a government bailout? Detroit got themselves in this positon, andthey need to get themselves out of it, WITHOUT government intervention.

  • Posted By: desapience @ 11/16/2008 6:37:24 PM

    I am all for helping GM make it though tis recession, but, I am 1`00% against giving a sngle dime that finds its way helping GM retirees contuniue to bleed. Not one penny of aid should be allowed to go to pay retired worker's benefits. And, present union woprkers are grossly overpaid by over $20/hour. No concessions, theno aid, and no jobs, period.

    • Posted By: Oneyejack @ 11/19/2008 12:38:39 PM

      So you think $8.00 per hour is what the autoworker should be paid. Most people that are able to reach retirement in the auto industry have some sort of disability. Most of you that make comments about over-payed UAW auto workers, could not last a day on an assembly line. Unions have a positive effect on all workers in America, members or not. If GM makes 8 bucks an hour, so does everyone else .Toyota,Hondallyou.Nissan
      and everyone else in America will

  • Posted By: tired and old @ 11/19/2008 11:23:16 AM

    OUR GOVERNMENT IS AS SCREWED UP AS THE AUTO INDUSTRY.

    POSTAL EMPLOYEES IN MAJOR CITIES WORK UNDER EXTREME PRESSURE, MANY TIMES IN HOSTILE WORK PLACES. NEW EMPLOYEES GET TREATED LIKE C R A P. TRAINING FOR A POSTAL WORKER IS A JOKE. POST OFFICE MUST HIRE VETS, THAT HAVE SERIOUS MENTAL PROBLEMS. REMEMBER THAT SOME WORKERS SHOOT UP THEIR WORK PLACE AND FELLOW WORKERS.

    POSTAL WORKERS GET HIGH PAY ; UNFORTUNATELY, THE POSTAL SERVICE NEEDS MORE EMPLOYEES TO REDUCE HEAVY WORK LOADS.

    GOVERNMENT ANSWERS PROBLEMS BY RAISING PAY AND RAISING THE PRICE OF STAMPS, THIS DOES NOTHING TO REDUCE WORK LOADS.

  • Posted By: wilmo @ 11/17/2008 3:53:35 PM

    How much longer can America compete in the global market if we pay high-school graduates $70 an hour?

    • Posted By: rock4ever @ 11/19/2008 10:49:34 AM

      your right let walmartize the country so we all can earn min. wages and let the rich get richer

  • Posted By: pete305 @ 11/19/2008 7:51:22 AM

    if we are to change the pay structure for the american workers ,we have to start at the top and align them with the Japanese first, then we can work down to what everybody wants to blame, those horrible union guys who have set a higher standard for all blue collar workers, no matter if you belong to a union or not you have benefited and you will suffer along with them, so wish whatever fate you like.

  • Posted By: sprintmusic111 @ 11/19/2008 3:24:47 AM

    Watch the film "Who killed the Electric Car" . These guys sold out to the oil companies and the dealerships at the expense of YOU and I, just to protect their bottom lines but screwed us in the long term. I know that without the bailout it could be catastrophic to our economy, but they screwed the tax payer you and I to make themselves rich and now they want us to bail them out. WHAT A JOKE! Watch the movie make your own conclusions you WILL SEE that they deserve EVERTHING they get.

  • Posted By: davidthomas@kc.rr.com @ 11/18/2008 11:30:35 AM

    The single best move the US government could make to bail out the big 3, stimulate innovation and job creation and get the economy booming is immediately institute universal health care. The first move would be to move everyone onto the US government health plan, then allow vouchers to pay for private insurance which met the same standards. Businesses would all benefit from having health care benefits removed from their costs and new businesses could start up and attract top talent who are now stuck in non-productive jobs because they can't buy health care on the open market - or if they can, it's rotten insurance at an unreachable price.

    I know, all you who work in the health care industry find this a terrifying proposal, but everyone knows it must happen. And sooner is better than later. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Do it now, and if there are mistakes or unintended consequences fix them when they appear.

    How do we pay for it? Tax the rich. Don't worry, it's not going to dampen my ambition to get rich. And you know darn well that the rich will still get richer, cause they own the companies that will benefit from reduced employee costs and a healthier employee population. Net result? A booming economy, a healthier nation and in the long run, lower health care costs as a portion of the GNP.

    • Posted By: nunatak @ 11/18/2008 2:31:54 PM

      ... or perhaps tax all shares sold ? if much of Europe and Canada can afford to compete and still offer high quality universal health care, why not the USA? is it too much to request that this burden be removed from the shoulders of the employer and transfered to the engines of greatest income? isn't it government's job to balance disparity? if not .. what are they good for?

      when an equilibrium is upset there is usually some short term pain and a lot of squawking. but what we seem to be facing here is strategic change -- not some minor tactical mollifications. the old system has been broken. let's not rebuild it the way it was only to see it fail us again.

      • Posted By: bighappy @ 11/18/2008 10:35:53 PM

        Health care in USA costs 5 times more than in Europe or Japan. Only way to gradually reduce it - forbid medical insurance, except hospitals care. Obama wants to implement something completely opposite - expand insurance.

  • Posted By: harpcm1 @ 11/18/2008 6:19:52 PM

    Dear Sir,
    I read your article about the GM bailout and I have one question for you. Are you being willfully disingenuous or are you just plain ignorant? First of all, it's highly problematic when a vastly overpaid millionaire "journalist" criticizes auto workers for being over paid, and by implication, lazy. I worked on GM's assembly line in the 1980s and I still bear the physical injuries, such as carpal tunnel syndrome in both arms and a repetitive motion shoulder injury which causes tremors in certain positions. I knew coworkers who, after 25 or more years on the line had deformed bodies attributable to their jobs. And you, in your overpaid "wisdom" state they are overpaid, pampered workers? I know if you performed their job for one day, you would be crawling on your hands and knees and crying for your mama. you also conveniently fail to mention that the hourly disparity in American and Japanese auto company's hourly worker benefits are due almost completely to the fact that Japan has universal health care while our criminally irresponsible government does everything to block health care for Americans. Your article is a joke! Not only could i write a better article, I could do it for much cheaper. Once again, don't touch the golden parachutes of the idiot executives whose bad decisions led to the failure of the auto industry, blame it on the workers & let them lose their jobs and pensions! You deserve to be unemployed. A displaced-by-Bush auto worker.

    • Posted By: George Summers @ 11/18/2008 10:30:16 PM

      In order to deal with a problem, the problem must be acknowledged by the one who must change. Honda of America, nor Toyota, have the union nor management salary and benefit structure that the U auto industry has. Until the UAW is ready to shoulder its share of the blame - and ghange- I say to hell with them!. Give a retooling loan to Honda to go into the "exclusively in the US" Electric Vehicle business and lets put the UAW "tyranny" dynasty to death. It's time. I was an idiot to think there was any chance for reform where this group is involved. "Semper Ridiculous"

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 11/18/2008 10:19:43 PM

      I understand your problem and appreciate hard work, but Toyota workers feel much less pain and discomfort after day job. because Japanese use robots which unions resisr to implement, constant lack of funds also does not help. Even inside USA Toyota spends 40% of Big 3 on health, depite sky-high USA medical costs (another problem which Obama will not able to resolve by expanding medical insurance, but this is another subject). And becides health care, your salary and pensions are also bigger.

  • Posted By: sharkman @ 11/18/2008 10:29:41 PM

    Our elected officials have no right to spend tax dollars on any publically traded companies.If they cannot build a product that sells then you loose.File chapter eleven and start over.I do not think they can be bailed out GM is a sinking ship let it sink.Before the government gives tax dollars away like there free go ahead and post all of the automakers white collar workers sallaries and let Joe public see the real problem.In five years this country has lost millions of construction jobs but no bail out for us. The idea of these idiots with more money to throw into thier own bank accounts is utterly rediculous and an end of our system.

  • Posted By: firemanprado @ 11/18/2008 7:12:22 PM

    I think we should loan 35 billion dollars on the condition that every car they sell under that name ford ,chrysler,gm is built in the united states ,all the new plants retooled for more fuel efficiant cars is also built in the united states including the parts, just think what kind of jobs that would creat plus bail out money to families to refinance there houses to lower there paymentsl ,so they can buy cars from those working americans .then let the auto companies finance and warrantie those cars that should make them turn out some better viechicles if they own part of them through finance

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 11/18/2008 10:27:11 PM

      It will gurantee 50% cost increase for every car (american labor, especially unionized, is expencive). You can calculate the consequences.

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