NWK Caption: LAS VEGAS - AUGUST 19:  Director for Climate Change and Energy for Google.org Dan Reicher waits to speak during the National Clean Energy Summit at the Cox Pavilion at UNLV August 19, 2008 in Las Vegas, Nevada. Reicher announced that Google will invest more than USD 10 million in breakthrough geothermal energy technology. Political and economic leaders are attending the two-day summit to discuss alternative energy options for the country's future.  (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Dan Reicher -- IPTC Caption: LAS VEGAS - AUGUST 19:  Director for Climate Change and Energy for Google.org Dan Reicher waits to speak during the National Clean Energy Summit at the Cox Pavilion at UNLV August 19, 2008 in Las Vegas, Nevada. Reicher announced that Google will invest more than USD 10 million in breakthrough geothermal energy technology. Political and economic leaders are attending the two-day summit to discuss alternative energy options for the country's future.
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Google.org's director for climate change and energy, Dan Reicher
THE FUTURE OF ENERGY

The Case for Brainy Power

Google's Dan Reicher says we need to make our electricity grid a whole lot smarter.

 

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A clean-energy economy will require lots of new hardware—sleeker wind turbines, more efficient solar panels, recharging stations for electric vehicles. It'll also require smarter software, to efficiently guide energy to where it's most needed. Always ambitious, Google hopes to be the architect of this software. Heading up its effort is Dan Reicher, a former assistant secretary at the Department of Energy who now serves as director of climate change and energy initiatives at Google .org, the company's philanthropic arm. NEWSWEEK's Fareed Zakaria spoke with him about the promise of the "smart grid" and more:

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ZAKARIA: You ' ve worked in both government and the private sector. To get to a clean-energy future, which do you think has the bigger role to play?
REICHER: I think it's both. There are often large barriers to moving new energy technology into the marketplace. It takes a combination of policy, technology and finance.

Google has made noise recently about the energy grid. Why is that such an important topic?
The electric grid is in many ways the backbone of our economy. Beginning in Thomas Edison's time, we've built a massive system to both generate and move electricity around the country, from nuclear-power plants and coal-fired generating facilities, across a huge infrastructure of wires and into people's homes. However ... in many ways [the grid] isn't up to the task that we're asking it to take on in the next couple of decades … If we're really going to take advantage of renewable energy, we have to build substantially more transmission capacity to move wind-generated electricity from the Dakotas to Chicago or solar-generated power from the Southwest to L.A.

Why is " transmission capacity " a stumbling block?
We simply don't have enough power lines to move large quantities of green electricity from where it exists to where it's needed. So we've got to build more power lines to take advantage of wind and solar and geothermal energy.

But we also have to do it in a smarter way, right?
Right. We've also got to build a more intelligent grid. Electricity generally flows in one direction, from where it's generated to where it's used, but increasingly we want to be able to send electricity in multiple directions. For example, if we have a fleet of millions of plug-in vehicles, we've got to have a grid that not only knows how to fill up the batteries with electricity, but one where the same vehicles can send electricity back to the grid when it needs it. They can serve as a large storage capacity for the grid.

What are you doing at Google to improve things?
We launched a partnership with General Electric, for example, which brings together GE's energy hardware and Google's information software.

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  • Posted By: ajka @ 12/14/2008 12:01:54 AM

    Toronto, I mean

  • Posted By: ajka @ 12/14/2008 12:00:57 AM

    This system is already working in Toeonto

  • Posted By: jufemaiz @ 11/25/2008 6:53:07 AM

    @ectreece: I'm sorry but it is not at all "unfair" for those you claim to have no choice. The very fact that you are contributing to a collective usage that drives investment means that there should be a price signal to ensure that the usage during those periods are peak. Further, the notion that 7-10pm would be peak is ludicrous and implies little understanding of the system loads that would be the key driver behind prices.

    @daviddurant: one of the benefits of a grid is that the feeding of electricity comes from more than one source - particularly at the transmission level. While it would be possible to coordinate an attack on multiple towers on multiple feeders a far more effective way to cripple infrastructure would be nodes (large substations) where cleanup costs would be much higher and take far longer than the replacement of overhead lines and towers. Part of the design of the network is to meet contingencies, and while I wouldn't want to speak for the transmission authorities in California I wouldn't be surprised if an n-1 or n-2 scenario was the design criteria.

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