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  • Posted By: J.Richter @ 11/18/2008 10:19:14 AM

    Looking at many of the comments here, the republicans have not learnt that the country has turned itself away from politics that invites from negative human emotions. Reserve your hate derived emotions for your domestic relationships. Politics and policies should be independent of this. How else can you explain such vitriol for a not yet sworn in president that has actually not done anything wrong yet and has advocated mostly post-partisan and even centrist opinions.

    Right now Palin is being attacked by Gingrich and has been called hillbilly looting from coarst to coast and egg head by McCain camp. Huckabee and Romney just viciously shot at each other verbally. The excuse is that this is what happens to loser. Well the worst we heard when Kerry lost was that Edwards refused to play attack dog role well - even after losing 3 straight presidency - nothing vitriolic. Why cant republicans just repudiate personal attacks and hatefulness while developing a good idealogy. The hateful simply gravitate to this ideas more than necessary.

    • Posted By: Vypurr @ 11/18/2008 10:31:58 AM

      I guess you were on vacation during the primaries when Obama and Clinton were going at it.

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/18/2008 11:59:46 AM

        I was and it was the Clinton camp. Obama never attacked Hillary.

        • Posted By: Vypurr @ 11/18/2008 1:20:40 PM

          I didn't say he attacked her. I said "they went at it". And they did throughout the primaries. The "feuds" ranged from foreign policy issues to the eliminating the gas tax to the Iraq war. They called each other "irresponsible and naive" on more than one occasion. I will say most of his part was defending himself in responding to her attacks. But go at it they did.

          The point to my post was that the dems fight with each other same as the reps.

          And hello to you too, Pia!

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/18/2008 2:08:48 PM

            Hello back at you, Vypurr! No wings lately?

            Of course you did not say Obama attacked Hillary. Yes, they did go at it but only because Obama finally had enough of her attacks! She did not play fair, in fact for a woman of her position she played dirty. Very unbecoming for a lady.. She really pmo! Obama, on the other hand, defended himself as a gentleman would.

            • Posted By: Vypurr @ 11/18/2008 2:33:25 PM

              No, I was off over the w/e and Monday... going out this afternoon for a couple days.

              Anyone in the lead, as Obama was, constantly plays defense. I still remember Hill reducing herself to sarcasm with her "And the skies will open and the light will come down and choirs will sing" nonsense. Anyway they've kissed and made up and are friends? again. lol

              Btw... take a look at this and tell me a Democrat and a Republican can't get along!

              http://www.russpage.net/obamapalin-dancing-with-the-stars/

              You gotta love it!

              • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/18/2008 3:02:10 PM

                Vypurr, thank you for the ObamaPalin dancing...enjoyed it! They look pretty hot...lol. I remember Hillary's sarcasm....another reason she lost..served her right! I am glad however that O and H have kissed and made up.  I'm proud of Hillary these days..... Have safe one..see you...

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 11/18/2008 7:52:18 AM

    President-elect Barack Obama's inauguration is expected to draw 1 million-plus to the capital, and already some lawmakers have stopped taking ticket requests and hotels have booked up. Some people are bartering on Craigslist for places to stay for the Jan. 20 ceremony when the Illinois senator takes the oath of office. They are offering cash or even help with dishes for residents willing to open up their homes..

    WOW!! HISTORIC

    • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 11/18/2008 2:46:00 PM

      That's more than the POPE! Could he actually draw a bigger crowd than the Pope? Unbelievable! They should make a statue of this guy and put it atop of the White House for all his clergy to bow to in honor! LMAO!Enter Your Comment

  • Posted By: Psi1Nupe1 @ 11/18/2008 12:01:58 PM

    My prayer will be with President Elect Obama!

    • Posted By: Bill Smith @ 11/18/2008 2:36:22 PM

      Your prayers better be for what is left of Amerika.

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/18/2008 2:43:42 PM

        This blogger has very good intentions. You, on the other hand, like to spoil things.

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/18/2008 12:03:58 PM

      That's beautiful, thank you.

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    • Posted By: Repubssuck @ 11/18/2008 2:07:46 PM

      I knew that about Sarah palin, the rest is news to me.

  • Posted By: smweed384 @ 11/15/2008 7:47:04 PM

    LisianVa your plan would actually cost 3 trllion dollars do the math

    • Posted By: TheVigil @ 11/18/2008 1:33:17 PM

      Actually, assuming she meant give one million instead of one thousand, it becomes three hundred quadrillion dollars. (Roughly 3,000 times the wealth of the entire world, last I heard).

      Reminds me of Scrooge McDuck - "You have three untouchabillion, seven hundred and sixty six squillion, fifty-seven katillion, etc. etc."

  • Posted By: LisainVA @ 11/15/2008 5:07:08 PM

    "Obama will certainly have to back a big stimulus package to counter the deepening recession." I want to ask if Obama might look at my suggestion shown here that would get our economy moving faster than the current bailout / rescue package put forth and already in the works, although with no apparent transparency, oversight or accountability..

    I???m not smart, especially when it comes to economics [OMG I sound like McCain], but I want to ask anyone blogging what would have been so wrong about the bailout package being handled another, completed unrelated way? My idea is to help Main Street DIRECTLY. Since there are 300+ million people living in the US, the Fed could have given each one of us $1M apiece. The $1M would have certain stipulations regulated by the Fed and attached as listed [more or less]:

    1.] A specified portion would be mandated to be put into savings,
    2.] A designated portion would go toward paying off all mortgages, solving the housing industry crisis [unless the homeowner has a mortgage worth more than $1M, in which case he does not require Government assistance],
    3.] Another portion would be mandated and set aside for one adult in the family to attend college to obtain an education in ???green??? technology,
    4.] All incurred credit card debt for that family would have to be paid in full and no further credit card use for a pre-determined time as stipulated by the Fed,
    5.] A certain portion must be spent to allow retailers to regain profits so our economy would immediately start to grow.

    Since my plan would only require $3+ MILLION [that is $1M to each American adult] instead of the $700 BILLION relief package Congress approved to be handed DIRECTLY to financial institutions. Wouldn???t my plan not only STIMULATE OUR ECONOMY, HELP MAIN STREET FIRST RATHER THAN WALL STREET FIRST, EDUCATE many adults who have been left behind due to financial or other reasons, move RETAIL SALES toward an incline rather than the decline it???s currently facing, and KEEP BANKS FROM FAILING BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD DEPOSIT AND SAVE [required savings as above], perhaps even increase their profits along with making CREDIT CARD FUNDS more readily available? It would also PUT A STOP TO THE MORTGAGE CRISIS, which the Fed stated was the UNDERLYING REASON for the financial crisis in the first place. Is this stupid, or could it still work or have worked with money left over from the $700B and that remaining money could be used to help resuscitate some banks if necessary? At least with my plan, the Fed would have a definite guarantee that no failure would occur as with the bailout to AIG and banks which has no guarantee.

    • Posted By: TheVigil @ 11/18/2008 1:30:38 PM

      Giving $1,000,000 to every American adult (let's assume there are 300,000,000) takes $300,000,000,000,000, or 300 QUADRILLION dollars.

      That's roughly 3,000 times the amount of all the wealth in the entire world, give or take. Your math is very very very very very very bad.

    • Posted By: benkrapf @ 11/16/2008 2:13:50 AM

      Wow. Math.

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  • Posted By: Bill Smith @ 11/18/2008 12:23:47 PM

    This is too funny. Lincoln hated black people and was an avid racist. He would probably send Obama to Liberia in chains like he wanted to do with all black people.

    Of course Lincoln could give him many pointers on be a great tyrant like Obama is hoping after he gets his national police force ???that is just as strong, just a big, and just as well funded.???

  • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 11/17/2008 12:47:33 PM

    The only type of currency that should have Obama's picture on it should be the Foodstamp because that is what he and his party believe in.....Welfare!

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/17/2008 12:55:24 PM

      You should consider removing your head from Sean Hannity's butt long enough for your brain to get some air. President Obama's picture on a food stamp, yuk, yuk, wouldn't that be funny! yuk, yuk! Imbecilic and juvenile! The perfect combinate for a GOP Party of Hate member in good standing.

      • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 11/17/2008 1:57:31 PM

        Who is S Hannity? I never said I was GOP. I just think that the US has made a mistake giving the Presidency to an unproven ROOKIE!

        • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/17/2008 2:10:22 PM

          coward, Afraid to admit you're in the GOP party of hate. Childish and ignorant!

          • Posted By: Rocky2001 @ 11/17/2008 3:52:31 PM

            Yeah Bass....He's a poopy butt!

            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/17/2008 3:56:00 PM

              You have that word on your brain lately. What's up with that? I'm telling G about your behavior.

              • Posted By: Rocky2001 @ 11/17/2008 4:04:20 PM

                Poopy?? or Butt??

                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/17/2008 4:11:42 PM

                  I am going to be nice now. I suggest you do the same and join the winning party. Don't be such a party "Pooper!"

                  • Posted By: Rocky2001 @ 11/17/2008 7:13:20 PM

                    Party?????? Where??

                    • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 11/18/2008 1:11:00 AM

                      http://howobamagotelected.com/
                      Typical Obama voters! Kool aid drinkers to the bone!

                      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/18/2008 11:52:20 AM

                        You are so obnoxious.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/17/2008 1:01:42 PM

      Thanks for the input, Jethro. Now, don't you have a Klan rally to attend?

      • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 11/17/2008 1:48:42 PM

        Hey DH, let your mom know that I won't be able to make it to the rally today! I have to go print the OBAMA food stamps today! Tell her to lead the rally in my place, K?

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/17/2008 2:39:32 PM

          So jealous and bitter. Remember that over 65 mllion Americans elected Obama.

          • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 11/18/2008 1:14:04 AM

            Here is part of that 65 million and why our country is going down the pooper!
            http://howobamagotelected.com/

            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/18/2008 11:51:53 AM

              Stalking my posts now? Not healthy.

  • Posted By: Skallywag @ 11/17/2008 1:11:25 PM

    Personally, I find it almost blasphemous to compare Obama to Lincoln right now. Wait until Obama is done, then lets compare. Obama has a lot to learn, and very little time to learn it. IF (big if, he's a lawyer) he really is smart, he just might learn from previous presidents and be able keep the boat at neutral buoyancy. He won't be able to refloat it and he may well sink it. Just because one is well spoken and has admirable intentions, does not mean one has actual leadership ability. Keep your life jackets handy, it is quite likely to get a bit wet in here. BTW, for all you Obamakins, take heart, if McCain were in Obamas place, I'd already have the life jacket on and be looking for the lifeboats.... Face the truth folks, we are in for a rough voyage until real leadership is put into the White House and the Ship can be saved.

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/17/2008 1:43:37 PM

      Such a pessimist. Why not give the man a chance and wait and see? Because you and others such as you, are resentful.

      • Posted By: Skallywag @ 11/17/2008 2:45:48 PM

        Pessimist, no. Realist, yes. Resentful, to a certain extent. I am resentful of the fact that no political party fielded a worthy candidate to the American public. Thus, when we need leadership, we get popularity. Popularity over experience is bad juju, it gets you into trouble.

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/17/2008 3:02:33 PM

          I respect you for admitting you are resentful....at any rate, remember that over 65 million intelligent Americans elected Obama. That must mean something to you?

          • Posted By: Skallywag @ 11/17/2008 3:35:05 PM

            I dispute the term intelligent for ALL of them. Over 101 million voters voted in the election, I contend that the vast majority were voting on popularity, not intelligence. If they had voted because of their own intelligence, neither of the two candidates would have been noninated in the first place. I refuse to be blinded by false promises.

            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/17/2008 3:56:32 PM

              I stress the term intelligent.

              • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 11/18/2008 1:21:55 AM

                Here's proof of your intelligent Obama voters! Monkeys could have made a wiser decision in this election!
                http://howobamagotelected.com/

                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/18/2008 11:51:12 AM

                  So desperate...so bitter...so jealous..so very unbecoming. Get a life..

          • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 11/18/2008 1:20:39 AM

            http://howobamagotelected.com/

      • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 11/17/2008 1:49:26 PM

        Whos' Obama going to save from persecution, the ga'ys?

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/17/2008 1:25:31 PM

      The truth is, for the first time since Bill Clinton, we have a person in the white House with intellegence. President Obama will do well because he has the ability to investigate, analize and actually carry on a conversation with experts before making a decision. Bush/Cheney tried to rule and not govern. They nearly destroyed our country before their reign came to an end. The Republican party of hate has looted our treasury, turning surplus to deficit and destroyed our reputation as a world leader with those that once respected and trusted us.

      President Obama will get us back on track in his 8 years in office and become the highest regarded President since George Washington. I'm going to support him as best i can and you won't fimd me running for the lifeboat. We're in this together and only rats and Republicans desert the ship during the fight.

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/17/2008 3:56:55 PM

        Excellent as always, Bass! Thanks.

      • Posted By: Skallywag @ 11/17/2008 2:51:25 PM

        "First time since Bill Clinton..." It is not like it has been 10 presidents (seems like it, but that is a different story). Just remember, a rat does not leave a sinking ship because he is a rat. He leaves because the ship is sinking. As a 21 year veteran who knows leadership, I do not see it with Obama (or the other guy for that matter). But I will keep my life jacket handy, know the way topside to my abandon ship station and be ready. I shall not be waiting for fish swimming through the galley to abandon ship. I am with you to a certain extent - give him a chance. I did after all serve this country longer than he has been in public office, so I have a stake in being here and helping if I can, but not at the expense of my family.

      • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 11/17/2008 1:52:54 PM

        President Obama will get us back on track in his 8 years in office and become the highest regarded President since George Washington. I'm going to support him as best i can and you won't fimd me running for the lifeboat. We're in this together and only rats and Republicans desert the ship during the fight.
        ---------------Sorry the lifeboats are full already and it's not only republicans on them, a few liberals that found out that they were not really liberal, moderates, and independents are also on them. So you can have your messiah and his gang called Congress!

  • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/17/2008 2:26:08 PM

    Who are these guys. I didn't think the party of hate could come up with more ignorant guys than holyroller and the other commenters from the GOP party of hate, but they did! Now we have Lee Holmes and hotwheel , dumb & dumber.

    I never thought I'd miss those that cut and ran after the election. Heck, josemarti didn't even wait. He booked out early.

    Lee & Hot are mouth-breathers on steroids. They make holyroller look like Albert Einstein!

    • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 11/18/2008 1:17:43 AM

      Name calling? You mention dumb and dumber, check out these Obama voters! Talk about dumb! Are you and Pia1981 one of these people in the video? God Help us! http://howobamagotelected.com/

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/18/2008 11:50:09 AM

        Very nice. You are not hot at all. You're a disrespectful bore.

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/17/2008 2:41:51 PM

      Ah ah ah, good old josemarti.. a poet and a comedian....I am missing him..

  • Posted By: fbanta @ 11/17/2008 9:18:56 PM

    For those who think that it is hopeful to have Obama model his presidency on that of Abraham Lincoln should look more closely at what Abraham Lincoln (AL) did to America.
    AL was opposed by the South because they provided 85% of the tax revenue and got none of the benefit. He had already announced plans to increase the tax rate from 37% to 47%. Sound familiar?
    AL was elected without any support from the South, so they knew that they had no recourse against his wasteful plans for Northern ???internal improvements??? financed exclusively with Southern taxes.
    AL chose to go to war, killing hundreds of thousands of citizens, rather than lose his taxes (Ft. Sumter was a tax office, not a slave market).
    AL imprisoned 3000 Northern newspaper editors and publishers who deigned to criticize his war plans
    AL used federal troops to destroy news presses of opposing press.
    AL used federal troops to prevent legally elected State legislatures from meeting for fear that they would embrace secession.
    AL created puppet State governments replacing legally elected governments who were opposed to his plans.
    AL regularly ignored the counsel of wise and experienced advisors, generals, etc. to prescribe the minute details of administration.
    AL directed his battle-hardened federal troops to make war on un-armed women, children and old men for no reason other than to leave them destitute: burning their homes, their crops; killing their animals leaving them totally unprotected for the coming winter.
    AL issued the Emancipation Proclamation two years into the war primarily in the hope that it would cause slaves to rise-up against the women and children left at home, murdering them just as had happened 70 years before during the slave up-rising in Haiti. A secondary reason was to prevent England and France (both of which had outlawed slavery) from supporting the Southern war effort.
    AL listened approvingly as his generals bragged about plundering tens of millions of dollars of private property from Southern civilians.
    AL did in fact despise slavery, but he was no friend of the slave: he was as racist then as Obama???s pastor of 20 years is today: just from a different perspective.
    Lincoln was a very capable and cunning politician. He knew how to manipulate people???s emotions and never failed to do so when it served his purposes. He was really good with words, and was elected mostly because of his abilities as a public speaker.
    Lincoln too was one of the least experienced Presidents ever to be elected to the office. His blind ambition, un-tempered by experience drove America into the most destructive period in our history.

    • Posted By: Jack999 @ 11/18/2008 7:27:27 AM

      Check with Historian,not with your own Judgment.s........President Lincoln was vetted as One of the Best President in American History..

      • Posted By: nate31 @ 11/18/2008 10:50:44 AM

        Gee are you from the South? It is amazing how all of these years later you think that what Lincoln did was wrong. I can't argue that a lot of what you said above is true. He did place government leaders in jail, imprisoned editors, used federal troops to quell further seccession, and with out a doubt ignored a lot of advice. What you seem to not realize is if he did not we would not be the United States. We would be some conglomoration of state/ countries. We would have never have enjoyed the super power status we have for the last 50 or more years. We needed each other then and we still need each other today, so jump on board. Let's turn this thing around together.

  • Posted By: Derfleiger @ 11/18/2008 7:59:49 AM

    Oh Yeah, did I forget to mention that Lincoln (a republican) also set the blacks free????????????

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/18/2008 10:30:06 AM

      You don't have to remind the Southerner of that. Why the sudden affection for Lincoln. Does the party plan to jetison the south in a desparate effort to grow the party? Are the Elected Republicans in the South on board with this glorification of ole honest Abe? The Republican have only dominated southern politics since they deserted the Democratic party and became dixiecrats on there way the the GOP party of hate, after LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act.

  • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/18/2008 10:14:28 AM

    Forgive me Webster and Roget, for I have sinned. My typing errors are worse than usual today, and that's saying something!

  • Posted By: ctruskey @ 11/17/2008 3:38:57 AM

    Obama is no Lincoln. Reagan wrote is own speeches for the most. Many presidens have drafted their own speeches this isn't anything new. Who wrote Washington speeches, or Jeffersons, Adams, I can on and on. To many people in this country forget we have had 43 presidents over 200 years. I don't believe Obama writes his own speeches as this is the first time I'm reading/hearing this.

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/17/2008 8:44:46 AM

      Ronald Regan did not write his own speeches. Peggy Noonan, a close advisor and Jeffery Hart of the National Review wrote most of his speeches. The timing of the speeches was coordinated by Nancy Reagan after she consulted with her Astrologer. Get your facts straight before you take your next cheap shot at President Obama.

      I have no idea if he writes his own speeches or not and no reason to doubt that he does. The only reason you take issue with it, is because you're a charter member of the GOP party of hate. and can't resist being your own rude self.

      • Posted By: J.Richter @ 11/18/2008 10:09:50 AM

        The Philadelphia speech was too personal to doubt the report. Or the 2004 convention speech. He wrote two best selling books and went to Havard and was president of the group of editors of the Havard Law review. What sounds more plausible? Will such hatred make some prefer to accept the less plausible?

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/17/2008 11:28:18 AM

      "Reagan wrote is own speeches for the most. "

      Rubbish. Peggy Noonan wrote almost every speech he ever gave.

    • Posted By: Joshua78 @ 11/17/2008 11:00:29 AM

      You have it backwards. Reagon did NOT write ANY of his Speeches. Obama on the otherhand has writen some of his speeches.

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/17/2008 1:36:19 PM

    Obama has one asset Lincoln did not.

    A sycophantic press.[led by Dick Wolffe and his fellow NEWSWEAK cronies,whom as we see,operate in the echo-chamber of Obamunism,or, provide the man with unquestioning loyalty,in their capacity of moving through friendly media waters[Wolffe,for instance,rarely appears anywhere but MSNBC].

    Lincoln was a differant matter. Universally disliked by the press who saw him as a hayseed,he was,in the estimation of writers for the main New England newspapers,a ''first rate,second-rate man''. ''He has no-one to bet on his head''.said the foreign London Times. ''A silly,flat,dishwatery speech'' said the New York Tribune on Lincolns Gettysburg Address. Lincoln returned their favours. ''All noise and gas'',he said of the American Fourth Estate.''My friends do me a favour by providing me with these Democratic newspapers'' he said of those editors who villified him in print.[''Lincoln wants another 50,000 victims'',said La Crosse,Wisconsins newspaper]. As with Sarah Palin,routine lies and falsehoods were spread by hostile newspapers in order to garner more currency in the growing ''Copperhead''movement. Lincoln paid himself in gold bars. his wife Mary had a ''social disease'',marked by Lincolns infirm children of whom. two would die while he was president. He was secretly amassing a fortune by engaging in black market cotton trading sneaked across the lines or shipped by blockade runners. He was a ''flatboat tyrant'' a ''fool'',a ''brigand'',an ''idiot'', a ''gorilla'', a ''widowmaker'',an ''imbecile'',and more.

    Obama comes in with none of this baggage. The leftwinged press will find means to make a leftwinged scheme seem centrist. But even the NEWSWEAK hacks are forced to admit that such things as the unionist ''card check'',the federalization of 401 k retirement plans,and the repeal of TAFT-HARTLEY provisions will be the tripwire that watchers will be gauging to ensure that Obama keeps his promise of a ''post-partisan''America.

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/17/2008 1:51:05 PM

      Lee, Have you ever used an original thought in your comments? Repeating Radical Right Wing articles word for work isn't a comment, it's just parroting your brain dead idols fanatical views.

      • Posted By: cecchi215 @ 11/18/2008 2:04:50 AM

        I guess he's just "talking the talk" of Obama.. real originally that his speeches are nothing but patched together works of others...

        • Posted By: J.Richter @ 11/18/2008 10:02:06 AM

          The republicans have not learnt that the ocuntry has turned itself away from politics that invites from negative human emotions. Reserve your hate derived emotions for your domestic relationships. Politics and policies should be independent of this. How else can you explain such vitriol for a not yet sworn in president that has actually not done anything wrong yet and has advocated mostly post-partisan and even centrist opinions.

          Right now Palin is being attacked by Gingrich and has been called hillbilly looting from coarst to coast and egg head by McCain camp. Huckabee and Romney just viciously shot at each other verbally. The excuse is that this is what happens to loser. Well the worst we heard when Kerry lost was that Edwards refused to play attack dog role well - even after losing 3 straight presidency - nothing vitriolic. Why cant republicans just repudiate personal attacks and hatefulness while developing a good idealogy. The hateful simply gravitate to this ideas more than necessary. Is this inbred?

    • Posted By: thinkotsdbox @ 11/17/2008 3:24:33 PM

      Ah someone with an actual sense of history.. How true. Lincoln was nearly not reelected., odd the progeny of the party that did that should claim him. Perhaps Obama should become a Republican?

      • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 11/18/2008 1:20:00 AM

        Obama would probably beat out Hitler if they were running against each other. The good ol'e speaker that tickles the ear and brings promises of hope and change! I could hear the harps going now!

  • Posted By: jgdonahue @ 11/17/2008 10:41:03 PM

    What is amazing is how there is a fanaticism to make Mr. Obama into something either we want or someone who he is not. There is NOTHING on his resume which even conjures up Lincoln - I guess Lincoln didn't vote "present" 135 times or lead so undistinguished a career. Nor did Obama expereicne the type of failure that Lincoln had.. Part of the problem is what Tom Browkaw said on the Charlie Rose show - we just don't know who Barack Obama is. When the inauguration occurs on Jan 20th, the world will be exposed to a rookie - a man who can speak a good game, but has no record to prove it. While he has talked about "Team of Rivals," the reality is that he has surrounded himself with former Clinton hacks who failed the first time. If he was really serious he would consider more people for his cabinet who don't think like him - but I am not holding my breath. Mr. Obama is a Chicago politican, part of the machine. There are many debts to pay, and many hands out to fill. This will distract him from doing the nation' s business, and we will be worse off for it, I guess.

    • Posted By: J.Richter @ 11/18/2008 9:49:00 AM

      we will be worse off for it, I guess. -- jgdonahue.

      I guess? Why guess when you can go to the library. Worse off than your Bush gave us in 8 years? Can anyone do worse (Katrina, 911, recession, largest deficits in decades, bailout of entire economy)?

      Lincoln had less than a resume than Obama (virtually nothing on the national level) - pick up a book? What is wrong with incorporating and learning from history while taking on a new job? How many new presidents have been able to meet this quickly and at least planned to work together with their main rival? What hugely has the guy done wrong yet?

  • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 11/18/2008 8:58:53 AM

    TO SARAH PALIN:
    This was the meaning and importance of Katie Couric question........
    Her brains did not understand this simple but profound question........

    We have now a President that STUDIES and READS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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