A Way Out of the Wilderness

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  • Posted By: nickgr @ 11/16/2008 5:36:38 PM

    I see Dems panicking in their effort to counterattack the succesful strategy of Rove...

    Just think that if Palin did not tank,Reps would have a narrow victory now...

    • Posted By: Lola Getz @ 11/17/2008 7:07:16 AM

      If, if, if. The thing is, Sarah Palin DID tank and McCain's selection of her as his VP made many voters - enough to cost him the election - question his judgement (in addition to making a mockery of his pledge to put "country first"). Thus, that potential Republican "narrow victory" disappeared in a puff of smoke and the Democrats had a healthy 7-point win - no matter how much Karl Rove chooses to downplay it.

      I love it when Republicans accuse Democrats of "panicking." Rove's "successful strategy" has been thoroughly rejected by the electorate (huge Republican losses in 2006 and 7-point Democratic Presidential win along with gains in both the House and Senate in 2008, remember). "Panicking" is the last thing the Democrats are doing right now.

  • Posted By: westcoastbuckeye @ 11/17/2008 3:10:54 AM

    Karl (and I say this with absolutely no respect at all), do America a favor, and go away. Politely fade into obscurity and bring that &^%&-kickin' buddy of yours with you. Your politics ("Rovian" ... my, you must be proud) rely on fear, willful ignorance, social wedge issues, and boldfaced lies (this is a "more pro-life generation" ... what ARE you smoking?).

    To your credit, "Rovian" worked a couple times. Just pray history and your God treats you kindly for your "successes."

    Because, by our measure, you and yours have done much, MUCH more harm than good, and we (the elitist, latte-sippin', Socialist, Communist, Marxist, god-less, Muslim, pro-terrorism, "spread the wealth" around, anti-gun, anti-life, anti-American, turn-your-kids-gay left) believe you deserve no forgiveness.

  • Posted By: ankhaw93 @ 11/17/2008 1:18:58 AM

    Rove is right about many things in this piece... and if the republicans take all of his advice, they WILL find themselves back in power. The problem is that Rove himself wouldn't take some of this to heart, I feel.

    Only take Obama to task over what he does wrong? Leave him alone when he does something right? That's exactly the right attitude to have and right path to follow, but it's not what Rove ever did when he was in power, personally. He seemed to always attack anyone who disagreed with his administration, he shut out the press more than any other administration in history, and was part of a political machine that didn't cater to the center-right, but instead to the far right, and to hades with anyone who got in their way.

    He's right, the country tends to center-right, and I personally am center-left... and I like to be open minded and honest enough to accept different points of view. Well, in this case, I have no problem accepting the points laid out here - I agree with most of them - but I have a hard time forgetting the history of the author who wrote them. Which is the real Rove, the man who wrote this, or the man who engineered those incredibly divisive campaigns? The reasonable thinker who went on Fox TV and said the McCain's ads had gone over the line, or the man who was complicit in MUCH worse campaign tactics in 2000 and 2004? Is the real Rove the man who seems to genuinely care about his country and wants what's best through his honest ideology (the republican platform) or is the real Rove the man who believes in the permanent majority, might makes right, win at all costs type of government he helped put into place 8 years ago?

    And please, people, don't hate each other! It's such a cliche, but it's also VERY true... we're all Americans, and what unites us really IS much stronger than what divides us. Turn off the radio and think for yourselves!

  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/15/2008 8:39:20 PM

    Karl Rove will be the demise of what is left of the GOP.

    • Posted By: simonanunhappydem @ 11/17/2008 1:13:45 AM

      I hope you are right!!

  • Posted By: Dolphin1939 @ 11/17/2008 12:19:34 AM

    The Lord hath smite the radical right.

  • Posted By: Republican Airhead @ 11/16/2008 11:33:42 PM

    My advice to Republicans. By Karl Rove.
    1). Don't listen to my advice. Because of Bush, and by extent, my advice to him for most of his presidency, Republicans are less popular than the plague.
    2). Rinse and repeat.

  • Posted By: mizeeyore59 @ 11/16/2008 12:52:56 AM

    Typical Republican. Why do all Republicans resort to calling people lazy who don't make over $250,000 a year? I would like to see one of them actually work for a living. You know, actual work. Oh, wait, they don't know how to actually work. The "lower" classes do all their work for them. It must be very comfortable being able to call people names like "dumbass" from that nice, secure place where rich republicans live. But wait for it... There will come a time not too far away... when rich white republicans are the miority, and people of color and those who survive this reagan made service economy outunmber folks like Robert E. Then they can thank a Liberal Democrat for their unemployment and social welfare program they're having to live on.

    • Posted By: katie'smom @ 11/16/2008 11:14:38 PM

      Without "rich" people there wouldn't be any social programs because there would be no one to pay for them. Please do the math - it's pretty basic stuff.

  • Posted By: OC Bob @ 11/16/2008 3:49:28 PM

    It would seem from reading the many comments that it's proof that Newsweek is read by mostly democrats. Rove is insightful, something democrats are not good at, there expertise is taxing us to death. Mr. Rove keep your balance as you have always done. Obama ran a good political race but the "proof is in the pudding", let's just see where we are 6 months after Obama has been President.

    • Posted By: baileyt2 @ 11/16/2008 9:47:13 PM

      I see. You give those losers Cheney/Rove/Bush to screw up the country, royally, and Obama 6 months to fix the mess they have made. It won't happen. These jerk-offs have set us back at least 10 years. Republicans have proven that they have no ability to lead, and their screwball ideology is more than worthless. Get lost!

      • Posted By: katie'smom @ 11/16/2008 11:08:22 PM

        How utterly charming you are! Whether or not you believe it the fact remains that Mr. Obama will be held accountable for everything going forward from January - even stuff he didn't do. That's life when you are top dog. If he can't fix it then tough luck but he will lose the soft vote the next time around.

  • Posted By: prdir @ 11/16/2008 10:38:45 PM

    Rove is particularly interested in #10: The GOP must master new media. This will give him even more opportunities to practice the character assassination techniques that have become his hallmark.

  • Posted By: MortyR @ 11/16/2008 10:38:37 PM

    It's satisfying to see the nation return once again to substance, reason, and the tough but brainy road we've trekked through numberless millenia to evolve over the lower species.

    Now that the election is over, it's even more satisfying to see the Republicans at it again, still peddling that same old Republican shell game. I've been hearing it since high school.

    They want you to believe they are against big government and Democrats are for big goverment. They still can't get it through their heads that, for all his right-wing righteousness, Ronald Reagan doubled the size of the federal Government.


    Republicans want you to believe they're against taxes and Democrats are for taxes. They think we're too dumb to know a tax by any other name is still a tax, and President Bush's bailout tax will cost taxpayers $2-trillion! Exponentially more than any Democratic tax in history.

    Please, Karl Rove, Hayley Barbour, Bobby Jindal, Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin, John McCain, et al., just keep harping on this message for years to come. Never stop. I beg of you!

  • Posted By: jfs50 @ 11/16/2008 10:28:54 PM

    Karl: Your time is better spent tending to your coming legal woes vis-a-vis the Don Siegelman case.

  • Posted By: sdmac @ 11/16/2008 10:18:06 PM

    Why in the world did Newsweek hire this jerk to write his trash in their magazine? I guess I???ll be subscribing to Time.

  • Posted By: BernieWrites @ 11/16/2008 9:53:04 PM

    After years of manipulating the image of George Bush, Mr. Rove has zero credibility. Ya' gotta believe he's just yanking on yet another set of strings for a puppet yet to be revealed. It took ten years for Newt Gringrich to sound honest. So go get a real job for a few years, Karl. Call me around 2018.

  • Posted By: nickgr @ 11/16/2008 4:51:35 PM

    Off the subject, Palin may have gone overboard with the machine gun totting,however,we ,the city/suburbs people have to understand the special conditions in Alaska.

    There are 1000s of wil d animals out there ...

    Also,many bears have attacked humans. There is overpopulation of certain spicies.

    Let us not be couch potato critics...

    • Posted By: baileyt2 @ 11/16/2008 9:43:38 PM

      What a douche you are.

  • Posted By: Sarah Hurt @ 11/16/2008 9:43:03 PM

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  • Posted By: Sarah Hurt @ 11/16/2008 9:42:39 PM

    Karl Rove is a mile wide and an inch deep. There is no thoughtfulness in his comments. How could such a stupid, shallow person have had such a say in governing this country? I knew I was scared, I just didn't know by how much. Thank the gods we have a thinking person on his way to the White House.

  • Posted By: Sarah Hurt @ 11/16/2008 9:39:00 PM

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  • Posted By: baileyt2 @ 11/16/2008 9:38:03 PM

    And for democrats? Take what little sense the evil master makes and incorporate it into your own agenda. Marginalize the evil that Rove has wraught. He was previously successful in cobbling together a coalition of the greedy, the corrupt, the hyperreligous and the gullible. Let us pledge to never again retreat to the kind of ugly American politics that Rove and Palin so grotesquely represent. Karl Rove is evil, and he loves being called that because it solidifies his base. Well, it is time to sweep him and the rest of the extreme right wing under the rug and far behind us. At the same time, we need to be rational, smart, forthright, and moral in our leadership of this country and the world. Get thee behind us, Rove.

  • Posted By: colvinatch @ 11/16/2008 9:06:45 PM

    Rove, you are one of the main reasons your party is in this mess, your win at any cost, divide the nation tactics, done on behalf of the most incompetent president in the history of this nation have left your party in absolute shambles.... Bush has no credibility, you have no credibility and the Republican party has no credibility with the American people.

  • Posted By: nickgr @ 11/16/2008 1:36:39 PM

    I see so many leftists insulting Rove...

    It shows that Rove has been succesful,2 times in a row.

    His analysis is correct.

    As a centrist Dem,I say that we,rightwing Dems & Indies need a good strategist in the political right-wing..

    A noble adversary,or ideological ally ,on occasion. Partizanship ruins democracy.

    Probably as a courtesy to Reps,he didn't elaborate on how a stronger candidate might have pulled a narrow victory,even in 2008.

    Good job,Rove,America needs common sense,non-fanatical or extremist political strategists. like u.

    • Posted By: tehevo @ 11/16/2008 9:06:10 PM

      heh. you are brainwashed. as well as ignorant of the fact that Karl Rove is a disgusting and sinister human. You are wrong on all accounts sir, and you are stupid. Im sorry to be the one to tell you this, your friends should have informed you earlier......oh wait......

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