How Getting Married Made Me An Activist

It???s ironic that the homosexuals are calling this a violation of the separation between church and state. This tradition originated to protect the churches from the government, NOT the government from the churches, and that is needed now more than ever. In California, a Christian Doctor was recently taken to court and lost for refusing to perform artificial insemination on a lesbian, isn't that infringing on his first amendment right to practice his religion? This is just one example. What happens after same-sex marriage is legalized? Will the US churches then be forced to recognize and perform same-sex marriage ceremonies out of fear of being taken to court? It???s already happening in Europe and Canada. The US government should never have the right to dictate churches doctrine or enforce upon them any belief. This is not about gay rights. In California, they already have ever right that is available to married people and there are already some churches that recognize gay marriage and perform gay wedding ceremonies. This is about separation of church and state for the protection of the churches and their affiliated organizations.

DW2009--Love and acceptance are a lot better than what most Christian's views are about things they don't like. I'd rather stake my life on tending to myself and my own back yard than to put my faith into a god who is nothing but a big BULLY! Why would I waste the only life I am sure of by filling it with condemnation of others that are not like me? I'd rather risk hell, it can't be any worse than what I have delt with here on earth!

It is all about money! As long as gay marriage is banned then the couple is denied the right to have insurance together, thereby, allowing big insurance to collect more money for individual policies. They have plenty of lobbyists working for them in DC to ensure that this continues. States also would lose money if these same sex partners are allowed to inherit estates as easily as married men and women can. I find it outrageous! I am of the same opinion as zenharley that nobody "chooses" their sexual orientation and outside pressures do not mold them either. If they did then more homosexual men and lesbian women would change to suit those putting pressure on them to be different. I also do not like the christian religion who would have me believe that the Higher power they believe in would create gays and lesbians and then condemn them. It just boggles my mind! As a very young child I suffered two years of daily, brutal sexual abuse from a babysitter, I guess that same higher power is sending me to hell for not being pure in my life? And for that matter if people really had a choice in their sexuality then why aren't I a lesbian now? What i endured should be proof enough that if I had a choice in the matter I would have shunned men for the rest of my natural born life, because after the abuse I did not really have a strong male role model, nor the support of a loving family taking me through threapy to deal with the horrible nightmare of what I experienced. I am so in support of gay rights but truly believe that it really is just a way to keep more money in the insurance sector, and the government. Civil marriage should be legal and binding no matter what gender the partners are! As for me I refuse to believe the "religious" morons who get media recognition. The higher power I understand doesn't create us already condemmed. As my late mother was wont to say "The moral majority---is neither!"

As amazing as it is that the media is finally admitting what many have known all along ( that the media is a liberal standing instititution by and large). But what is really sad is that the homosexual rights people think that they are in the same standing as black people in their fight for civil rights.
I have met several former gay men and women who have come out of the homosexual lifestyle, but I've never met a former black man or woman.

awesome post miss mona!!!

susanN....Its sad that you think that since God teaches love that we need to LOOVE everything and everyone no matter what. You invision a utopia I suppose. If you knew more about what I believe as a God fearing christian man, you would understand that we love the sinner, hate the sin. God doesn't toleate sin and that is why we go to hell for it, unless you call upon his name and ASK FOR FORGIVNESS. This is something that alot of people fail to remember. I realized I was a sinner and asked God into my heart in 1986. Anyway, I wont use this board to prosilitize you can find that at your local church. I just wanted to clerify.

For once, Ronald Reagan actually got something right...being gay isn't a choice. There's plenty of scientific evidence to support it if anyone would like to actually educate themselves. I could no more wake up tomorrow morning and "decide" to be gay than I think a homosexual could become hetero. No program, law or popular opinion is going to change that.

And how exactly is the hetero institution of marriage threatened by gay marriage? If your neighbors across the street decide to get divorced, does that mean your marriage is doomed also?!? One has nothing to do with the other. I believe gay people have every right to be as miserable as every hetero married couple I know.

Im old enough to know what is right from wrong, my momma taught me that. My children are still young and learning. I absolutely do not want my children to think GAY is ok, or the norm. I do not want my children saturated with Boy + Boy and girl+ girl on TV , in school or anywhere. I dont want them to be desensitized in thinking that is acceptabel. It is safe so say that most people accept children having a crush on other kids when in school- how will it be when your elementary son or daughter come start having a crush on same sex. Its horrific. Will we have to worry that the girl or boy coming over to spend the night with your son or daughter for what seems an innocent sleep over is really a 'boyfriend or girlfriend. This is not how God intended for us to live. If you dont believe in God- than this has no bearing to you. I dont hate Gay people, I deplore the act and the institution of Gay Marriage. It is flat out wrong and for our society to accept this as normal- God help us. How can you procreate if you are GAy?? You cant! Being Gay is not natural nor does it fit in with the natural way we were designed.

so sad that you follow christ yet don't understand his very fundamental purpose-- to teach love. Love is from God, God is never wrong and either is love. Besides, just because most of America falls under the Christian category, it doesn't mean that we do not have freedom of religion. Anti-gay semantics, biggotry, and hate simply isn't doctrine, practice, or in the character of my religion or beliefs. A theocracy is anti-american, thats why we left Europe. And if God doesn't tolerate sin, and forgive it, then we are all damned to hell. You, and yours. No one is sinless.

First of all, being gay made you an activist; not getting married. Second, the founding fathers, as it were, were most certainly not in support of homosexuality or any other special interest groups; which just so happen to be contradictions to the phrase, "all men are created equal."

What men were considered in those days, in fact, was quite different from what a man is viewed today, but you would have us believe that they actually meant, "all persons are created equal." But "how are we to learn our history" is most certainly a queer question to ask, considering the source in your particular case, further the primary reason proposition 8 passed. Californians DO NOT want homosexuality, or any acceptance/tolerance thereof, taught to their children; furthermore, it???s our right to say so! Is there any part of this you don???t understand? Furthermore, this isn???t about whether or not you can marry. It???s about everything else you???ll do thereafter, further the power to do so. In fact, it???s always about power, whenever one group???s established rights are diminished for those of another.

You say that the Mormon Church was the primary source, from which funding was received to pass proposition eight; yet, they further only represent 2% of the California vote. Is that about right? Therefore, your kind goes on the attack against said, taking every measure to abolish the church through the IRS and other means. Again, a constitutional violation against a religious group, in an attempt to abolish that religion and its voice, which would most certainly be the result from taxation. Tell ya what; lets put a homosexual tax on all of you. Let's in fact tax you to pay for the monumental, medical and disability expenses afforded California tax payers, over your groups refusal to practice safe sex, testament to the massive quilts thus far created. Perhaps we can further sue your organizations for wrongful deaths; can you imagine the case loads?

Fact. The white vote in California on proposition 8 was fifty/fifty; thus, eliminating the white vote, to which the majority of Mormons most certainly are. The Hispanic vote was slightly higher in favor, and the African/American vote was 75% in favor. Yet, I don???t see you protesting in front of the headquarters of the NAACP? Should we put a higher tax on black people now, hmmm?

The bottom line is that however much people twist the Constitution of this United States, as to suit their own special interest, this is still a democracy. To do anything in contradiction of that democracy, past putting something to a vote, is unconstitutional, further nihilistic. The state of California should file a counter suit, as previously mentioned, and put a final end to this defamation of sound, constitutional rights for those of a selfish, whimsical caprice which threatens us all.

Now, slide your finger to the delete button and show me your idea of equality...

Thanks Tolerance not hate for correcting my spelling. I knew one of you smart Pro-Gay folks would point that out. I am not throwing stones. I don't give people AIDS either. That comes from dirty needles and unpretected sodomy. God did and does teaCh tolerance. But when you know something is a sin, you dont tolorate that. Can you quote in the Binble where God said to tolerate sin. I can quote you where he says homosexuality is a sin. I am just encouraging Christians to stand up for what we believe. I am not "hating" anyone. Its the act of same sex that I hate. If they were willing to change and turn from homosexuality I would love them and readily help be willing to help them do so. God is a loving god but He is also a just and rightous God. He never will tolerate sin no matter who commits it.

I am amazed and frightened at the hate and anger people have over same-sex marriage. Does it hurt you in some way? Is it harder for you to explain why it is wrong if they get the same right as us? I am married, straight, and Catholic, but I feel it is only God's job to judge others and the choices they make. Why waste your time and energy worried about others' souls? If they marry it does not affect you, they will not invite you to the ceramony. Let people be happy.

Wow, I never wanted to believe that Christians could be as intolerant as the extremist Muslims are. Most of you are no better than the lowest of the low. If you truly understood your bible or in DW's case his Binble then you'd see that God encouraged tolerance. You may not agree with it, but that does not give you the right to spread hate and intolerance. It wasn't very long ago when interacial and inter-faith marriages were illegal and frowned upon by the church. Does one truly believe G-d would create the world in his image but not mean for us to intermingle. Some of your opinions are outright disgusting. Let ye who is without sin cast the first stone. Just remember if you throw that stone you best not live in a glass house.

No matter what; it is still wrong. Marriages never legitimizes wrong. One is born male or female. Two males nor two females are made to sexually relate, let alone marry. Just loving each other or expressing feelings is not a legitimate reason to define yourself by sexual experiences and seek to make society grant special rights for a behavior.

Even Ronald Reagan managed to get this one right...being gay isn't a choice. I didn't "choose" to be heterosexual. I just am. There's no program, law or popular opinion that could change that. Do other heteros really believe that all of sudden they could "decide" to be homosexual? Of course not! So how can they believe the converse? It doesn't make sense.

Also, how on earth is hetero marriage threatened by gay marriage? One has nothing to do with the other...if your neighbors across the street get divorced, does that mean your marriage is doomed too?!? It doesn't work that way. Hey, I think gay couples have every right to make each as miserable as every hetero married couple I know.

AIDS...Gods gift to the GAY community. More christains need to be out spoken about this. We belive it is immorale and should not be forced on us juts like the GAY community doent want the Binble forced on them. But they insist on shouting at the top of their lungs about how unfair society is to GAYS and how proud they are to be gay. So now I encourage fellow Christians to do the same...lets shout at the top of our lungs about how proud we are to be Gods children and stand up for what is right. Save the future by bringing God back into society, not gay marriage.

Homosexuals are humans and should be treated as such they don't have a part in the Kingdom of God if they refuse not to reject their life style, but they are human beings God's creation. They are to be pitied because they are going against things that are natural and fighting to make it so, but they must remember the lesson of the changed river course, when the floods come the river reverts back to it's original course with dire consequeces for the for the land. That's my personal opinion.

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Now regarding the argument that granting gays marriage rights somehow threatens or waters down marriage, or that "redefining" marriage is a horrible notion.