Not only are some posts that are labeled as successful, getting posted. Some indicated as failures get posted anyway.
Not only are some posts that are labeled as successful, getting posted. Some indicated as failures get posted anyway.
Hey Coward!!! Poco finally grew tired of you wordy nonsensical bullshit... not so with me ya big puss....
Again, someone who knows I've logged off pounds on a woman.
Now you, Forty4.
Let's see, "Bullshit...full of bull...friggin', pathetic Coward...Coward...F**K...sh!t...whimp"
You are the coward, according to your own words and actions.
Actions you took. You continued your harangue in response to a blog that ended with me saying that I was signing off. You then turned your abuse to a woman, who you abused and threatened with what "I know".
I normally don't use this language, but sometimes it's apropos:
Forty4, you're nothing but a Chicken *** bully who cowardly turns your abuse and threats to a woman when you know the man involved has already signed off.
In fact, I think your words reveal that you're a liar as well. You will have the opportunity to explain, but I expect you are such a Chicken *** Coward, you will spew about everything but that.
I had never blogged to you, but late last night you joined in with someone else who had already pounded on Pia after I had logged off. (Sequence described twice below)
You called me a coward because someone else was picking on Pia. Your 1st post:
"I felt badly when you abandoned her regarding her post to you pleading for your help. Of course, you 'conveniently' had to 'log off' only to show up almost a day later."
So you were there. You watched it. You felt sorry for her, and called me a coward for not doing something.
You did nothing else, though. You did nothing but feel "sorry" while you watched someone you "like" being picked on.
What a Man. Worthy to call me a coward for not doing something about what you...just watched.
After I responded to that post, saying I had to log off, you then at 11:26 pm turned your ire toward Pia, accused and insulted her, and threatened her with:
"I've watched you a long time. I [YOU, ***!] know".
You continued to call me a Coward, twice a puss, railing that I should have protected her from the other did when I wasn't there. Your new words:
"I felt bad the other night when you pleaded for help and he evaporated...So did Pocolodi...I'd die before I'd leave my girlfriend that way."
You ended that post with threats against her, you Chicken *** Cowardly Woman Abuser.
Twice you said you watched and did nothing.
If the woman you were then abusing were "my girlfriend" you "would die" before you'd let that happen.
So, you'll abuse and threaten a woman you "like", but you would go to the death for your girlfriend..
Brave man. You are so righteous to call me a coward to have logged off, leaving you to watch and feel sorry for her.
Two questions Brave Man:
1. Were you lying when you said twice you watched it happen, or were you too chicken to come to her aid? It's one or the other.
2. Do you abuse and threaten your girlfriends, or do you save that just for women you like"?
You're just a Chicken *** Pig Woman Abus
I skipped your diatribe to the end... but I will answer your 2 questions. I didn't come to her aid as I'm not the one who was called for making the posts in question. And she was calling out for you, not me, remember? So I would think that was your job. And I didn't threaten her. Most of our exchanges last night were light hearted... Pia actually started the "stepping outside" banter on another board sometime ago, which we have used as a running gag ever since. Little Tuffy fits her perfectly. But I'm sure I have the link if you don't believe me.
No... I'm not a "Chicken *** woman abus." But 40, please feel free to spin this in any way that makes you feel better. Which is why you're doing so because as usual, you don't have a leg to stand on.
Pig Forty4:
I don't need to spin. I quoted your actual words. They are there for all to see. And I will keep reminding you, Pig.
There is more to the story, but you pathetically try excuse yourself while you watch a woman being abused, because it was not your place... Yet, you call me a coward, for not being there, while you stand by Big Man.
And your words and threats are also there to see, you Pig. Of course, it wasn't your job to protect her then because you were so self righteously accusing and threatening her....after you knew I had logged off you Chicken $h!t Pig Cowardly Woman Abuser.
Pia is so sweet she'll let anyone off, but your 'defense' is no more than the pathetic, distorted claim after abuse that 'we made up'. My father was a policeman and he heard that story many times. It's the best they can do, and it's the pathetic 'best' you can do, Pig.
You're nothing but a Chicken $h!t Cowardly Pig Woman Abuser, whose own words demonstrate it.
You Chicken $h!t Cowardly Pig Woman Abuser.
A 40 year republican
Forty4! He is not a coward. You don't know him.
Of course he is. Why did he leave you the other night? I'm on Poco's side, but even I felt bad the other night when you pleaded for help and he evaporated.. So did Pocolodi... What a puss! I'd die before I'd leave my girlfriend that way . I've been around here along time P... I think your previous BF's A or S both would have defended you if you deserved it. Anyway, I agree with Poco... do as you wish and good luck.
You're an easy one to like Pia.... I've watched you for a long time. I know about the others.
First of all, he is not my B. Second, A is a friend, S was a BF. He went for me, not the other way around. Got that?
PS Forty4-I read your comments below where you said that I am politically misguided. You are joking I know. I mean really...once again let's you and I go through this...my candidate won the presidency and yours lost! Who is really misguided? I think I passed up the chance last week to roll up my sleeves and let you have it. But. The night is still young.
In any case, I do want thank you for your concern. Very nice of you.
Okay Tuffy... but of course I can say you're misguided...you would say that about me even if McCain won, wouldn't you? Of course you would.
I stand corrected... I thought you and Skypoint were close and mutual. I didn't get all of it as both of you spoke in a foreign language much of the time, so I might be mistaken. Anyway, I played football for three years for USC... you might want to think twice about putting up your dukes there, little Tuffy.
I am not misguided and you know it..you are in major denial because you won't accept that Obama wiped McCain, who btw, I happen to like. No matter what neg. comments I posted about him(not much) I admire him for his service and suffering in Vietnam. Back to you.. you played football. I'm impressed. Now you best get back to your GF before she rolls up her sleeves.
PS S and I posted in Italian and French. Now we are "fini."
PS-bad habit, sorry. You are right about S, it was mutual only I didn't initiate it. Forty4-don't post that name again. I don't want to see it. Thank you
Yeah, well... you're still misguided. lol! And so it was mutual... I would have had to call you on that if you argued...
Normally, few guys impress me here. S spoke several languages, was eloquent, but the main thing of course, was that he was on my side! But I'll respect your wishes and not bring up his name again. Anyway, it's late P, and I've enjoyed all I can stand of this place for awhile... You will let me know when you want to step outside and go a few rounds, won't you, Tuffy? I promise I'll take it easy on you.... K?
Okay, I give in, I'm misguided....esp. since my candidate won. Thanks for the offer but I don't think it's a good idea to step outside and fight you...my reputation is tarnished already from all of this drama.
You give in? I don't believe my eyes! Tuffy... I'm impressed!
I know you're only joking, but it was a terrific fantasy for a few seconds! lol
Well P, I'm not liked here at all by your bf, and I've grown bored of this board! No more posts from me, I promise. I can see Poco has gone into the sunset regarding this article as well. No more drama!
Good luck, Tuffy... see you around Newsweek!
Suggestion - get a job and stop worrying about your precious 'posts'.
Now tell me about pear juice. The long version. :-)
40YearR and Pia1981,
Could you two please pull your tongues back in your mouths take your teenage slobbering over each other to another sight? This is gone on for days... Swapping wet ones? Pear juice on prominences, with convolutions? I love a man with an "imagination?" Good grief, both of you behave like you're in the eighth grade. And Pia1981, it's so obvious you're after half the men on the Newsweek sight.
Please, take it somewhere else.
"pocolodi": I read your numerous posts of last night. Your vigilance and careful scrutiny are...curious. There are numerous posts I skip because they are of no interest to me. You have demonstrated a hypersensitive fixation.
More important is the dichotomy between your fascination with me and another, versus your pretext that only politics on the subject of the articles are appropriate. The only other posts of yours I recall both ended in pouts by you.
One was your choice to express personal offense that one poster considers the republican party one of hate. As a 40 year member, I have come to agree with that observation. I have made many posts about that, and about what the republican party will have to do to gain broader appeal. You just whined personal offense. Stop whining, and do something. Judge yourself and your party and contribute/ If you lack the nerve or capacity to offer any interesting suggestions, and instead prefer the pose of victimhood, then we all have the option to just scroll past you with appropriate contempt.
Your other post was more cynical, and completely off the subject of the article to which you posted it. It was a snide comment about Jesse Jackson's tears over Obama's election. When a response pointed out your gratuitous tangential slam, your response was to accuse the responder of going off on a tangent, and you played the victim and signed off.
Please point out to me your objections to the many posts filled with racism, hate, fear mongering, name calling and vitriol, on and off the subjects of the articles.
Until you do, I will continue to consider your self righteous moral or ethical pronunciations to be pathetically skewed, hypocritical and unworthy of my interest or concern.
My posts to one person, among many posts on numerous subjects, somehow are intolerable or offensive by your ethics, but many more filled with racism, hate, fear mongering and name calling are appropriate to you? Cast your stones where you will, and stay in that little world of skewed sensitivities you condescend to 'share' with us.
40YearR,
You are the last person I would be "fascinated with." My post was neither vigilant, nor contained careful scrutiny. It needed neither, as your salacious posts were everywhere to be seen. You were called on it, as this is a political, and not a dating site, and you became angry.
You go into a long diatribe in several posts including calling me a voyeur! That's a laugh, considering you had no problem plastering your "thoughts" in front of everyone on multiple boards! Then you bring up Jesse Jackson! At least the post you mentioned was political... Jackson had been in the news regarding the "subject matter," and he had just been brought up by another poster. But this is your usual effort to minimize the situation and divert the focus elsewhere.
As for my part, I should have made a simple request, rather than the unfortunate harsh tone that I used. Lastly, though I'd like to see the Newsweek site in a political light, Pia1981 was right... I'm not the moderator here, so do as you wish. This in mind, I'll simply disregard your posts in the future.
I'm sure you'll agree that enough has been said about this and it should end here.
"Pocolodi": You're slow but you apparently finally found your scoll wheel. No anger here, nor did I seek to "minimize the situation". I simply expressed my contempt at your pseudo morality and pathetic relative 'values'. Now show something by opposing the racism and hate (or are they politics to you?) that are rampant on these sites with the same vigilance and judgmentalism you applied to two who by my standards caused far less harm and offense than the behavior you implicitly endorse with your inattention, 'tolerance' and silence. Now I agree that enough has been said about this.
40YearR,
I knew you wouldn't be able to leave this alone. Knowing how childish and transparent you are, it was expected.
I'm slow??? LOL! As an extreme lib, you can't stand being challenged so you instantly vanished like a puff of smoke the other night with your "I get it, good night" exit. Funny how perfectly that coincided with your next day "I had to log off" statement. Right. Then you show up almost a full day later with your bloated, wordy, accusatory and diversionary remarks trying to lay the blame anywhere but where it lies. Even Pia1981 admitted it wasn't appropriate. Obiously, you don't agree. Rather than oblige the people here who don't want to see your numerous salacious posts, your argument makes it plain that you're comfortable with putting them in front of people, and then ridiculously labeling anyone who calls you on it a voyuer!
And you keep throwing racisim and hate into this for your justification using NW as a dating site. These are normal issues that fall into the political realm that all of us, including me, address everyday we're here.
40YearR, I'm sure you will continue to use your diversionary tactics to somehow find me at fault here... and the day that Newsweek places a "Internet Dating" tab at the top of their articles, you will be right.
"Pocolodi": I had to go back and look at the times of posts to see where you got the idea I disappeared after your post. Know that I would have stayed had I seen it. For whatever it is worth, I had been at another article and signed off here before refreshing here. I'm hardly fearful, as demonstrated by my responses since I returned and saw what you posted.
I'm sure that you read my post about circumstances in which I would think an apology appropriate, and noticed the absence of a comment by you. Yet, you reason yourself to be entitled to call me "immature". In my first response to you, I referred to my many other posts. Then I pointed out your pouty prior posts. Then I pointed out the hypocrisy of you judging me, when you apparently have a high tolerance for the more prevalent hate and racism. That is not changing the subject. It is revealing context and exposing your hypocrisy.
No diversion Pocolodi. The absence of you responding to me pointing out your tolerance of the hate and racism is starkly there to see. As well as your steadfast insistence that you should be allowed to point out the "sty" in my eye, and then pout that you are a gratuitous victim when you receive a response in kind.
I have pointed out your faults, only after your pious judgment of me and your aggressive exaggerations and insults toward another. Cast your self righteous pebbles, and pout away.
Oh yeah, along with your pious hypocrisies, toss in the old "radical lib" saw as well.
A 40 year republican
Bullshit, 40Pears. I looked at the post. Poco nailed your ass... You were outta here the second you were pegged on it and your "Ok, I get it, good night" statement proves it. It looks like Pocolodi has left the board, but I've read these posts and have no problem telling you you're full of bull.
No, we don't want your sexual oriented posts. Period.
You've done everything you can to label Pocolodi as a racist, (please, 40Pears, where did he or she ever give you the indication that s/he was a racist?) You can't because it isn't there. Of course there's your other nonsensical bs that he/she is a hypocrite. More bs! You epitomize the word!
Though I feel Pia is politically misguided, I actually like her. I felt badly when you abandoned her regarding her post to you pleading for your help. Of course, you 'conveniently' had to 'log off', only to show up almost a day later. What a friggin', pathetic Coward.
40Pears, I'll second Poco's and Pia's affirmation that NW isn't a dating site. However your continued attitude display's the fact that you're the biggest blowhard, hypocrite and Coward on these boards. And none of your so-called inflated, big words can overcome that.
Get it strait, 40Pears! NW is not an Internet Dating Site!!!
"Forty4": I was just about to log off on another site when I checked back here, just so Pocolodi wouldn't have another misimpression about timing or about whether I'm a coward.
The timing was exactly the way I said it was above.
I made it a point to keep responding to him today so there would be no confusion on that point again.
FYI, I very well might have apologized if he hadn't been so aggressive toward Pia, who as far as I can tell wouldn't hurt a flea.
Have you seen any posts of any sexual kind over the last two days? Did that tell you anything? It should speak volumes to you.
I stand by my personal view that it is pure hypocrisy to consider my posts as anywhere near as objectionable, in the abstract or comparatively, than the blatant hate and racism that is tolerated on these sites. My comments were to point out the dichotomy in toleration of one kind of statement versus another kind that I have trouble imagining anyone thinking is not far worse.
Perhaps you will disagree, but I stand by my own relative valuation of one versus the other, particularly when the one passing judgment is directing aggression at a woman. The hypocrisy is plain to me.
Had Pocolodi not been so aggressive to a woman when I (in fact) was not there, I would have taken that request as that.
Men should not be abusive to women. You need only read my posts to see whether I'm cowardly. Think about it. If I were a coward, why am I here today?
So you got your facts wrong. The "I get it" pertained to a subject you do not want discussed here.
And you blew up at the wrong "coward," as well as the wrong "hypocrite". As to your preferences regarding my postings, you received my accommodation long before you blew up in this post.
I do need to go now, but I will be back when I can.
"I stand by my personal view that it is pure hypocrisy to consider my posts as anywhere near as objectionable, in the abstract or comparatively, than the blatant hate and racism that is tolerated on these sites."
What the F**K does that mean?? You're so full of sh!t it's pathetic. If Pia doesn't already know your a whimp, she should.
Again, someone who knows I've logged off, pounds on a woman.
Now you, Forty4.
Let's see, "Bullshit...full of bull...friggin'... pathetic Coward...Coward...F**K...sh!t...whimp"
You are the coward, according to your own words and actions.
Actions you took. You continued your harangue in response to a blog that ended with me saying that I was signing off, You then turned your abuse to a woman, who you abused and threatened with what "I know".
I normally don't use this language, but sometimes it's apropos:
Forty4, you're nothing but a Chicken $h!t bully who cowardly turns your abuse and threats to a woman when you know the man involved has already signed off.
In fact, I think your words reveal that you're a liar as well. You will have the opportunity to explain, but I expect you are such a Chicken $h!t Coward, you will spew about everything but that.
I had never blogged to you, but late last night you joined in with someone else who had already pounded on Pia after I had logged off. (Sequence described twice above)
You called me a coward because someone else was picking on Pia. Your 1st post:
"I felt badly when you abandoned her regarding her post to you pleading for your help. Of course, you 'conveniently' had to 'log off' only to show up almost a day later."
So you were there. You watched it. You felt sorry for her, and called me a coward for not doing something.
You did nothing else, though. You did nothing but feel "sorry" while you watched someone you "like" being picked on.
What a Man. Worthy to call me a coward for not doing something about what you...just watched.
After I responded to that post, saying I had to log off, you then at 11:26 pm turned your ire toward Pia, accused and insulted her, and threatened her with:
"I've watched you a long time. I [YOU, A$$H0LE!] know".
You continued to call me a Coward, twice a puss, railing that I should have protected her from the other did when I wasn't there. Your new words:
"I felt bad the other night when you pleaded for help and he evaporated...So did Pocolodi...I'd die before I'd leave my girlfriend that way."
You ended that post with threats against her, you Chicken $h!t Cowardly Woman Abuser.
Twice you said you watched and did nothing.
If the woman you were then abusing were "my girlfriend" you "would die" before you'd let that happen.
So, you'll abuse and threaten a woman you "like", but you would go to the death for your girlfriend.
Brave man. You are so righteous to call me a coward to have logged off, leaving you to watch and feel sorry for her.
Two questions Brave Man:
1. Were you lying when you said twice you watched it happen, or were you too chicken to come to her aid? It's one or the other.
2. Do you abuse and threaten your girlfriends, or do you save that just for women you like"?
You're just a Chicken $h!t Pig Woman Abuser.
Beat your chest Brave M
Pocolodi-please, no more of this. I am sorry I ever replied to your comments that night. I never thought this was going to turn into a war. AND, 40YearR is a wonderful person.
Pia1981, I did not intend for this to turn into a war either. I apologize for harsh tone I used in my post.. I should have used a simple request. I did appreciate your apology for whatever reasons you made it. Your boyfriend and I differ on our views, and I know that does not make him a bad person.
Though the chances are slim that our paths will cross again here at NW, I did not want this to end badly.
I wish you well.
Thank you. I too, wish you well.
"Pocolodi": I had to go back and look at the times of posts to see where you got the idea I disappeared after your post. Know that I would have stayed had I seen it. For whatever it is worth, I had been at another article and signed off here before refreshing here. I'm hardly fearful, as demonstrated by my responses since I returned and saw what you posted.
I'm sure that you read my post about circumstances in which I would think an apology appropriate, and noticed the absence of a comment by you. Yet, you reason yourself to be entitled to call me "immature". In my first response to you, I referred to my many other posts. Then I pointed out your pouty prior posts. Then I pointed out the hypocrisy of you judging me, when you apparently have a high tolerance for the more prevalent hate and racism. That is not changing the subject. It is revealing context and exposing your hypocrisy.
No diversion Pocolodi. The absence of you responding to me pointing out your tolerance of the hate and racism is starkly there to see. As well as your steadfast insistence that you should be allowed to point out the "sty" in my eye, and then pout that you are a gratuitous victim when you receive a response in kind.
I have pointed out your faults, only after your pious judgment of me and your aggressive exaggerations and insults toward another. Cast your self righteous pebbles, and pout away.
Oh yeah, along with your pious hypocrisies, toss in the old "radical lib" saw as well.
A 40 year republican
Quick get some water to cool down 40's keyboard. It's shooting flames. Give it to him good 40!
Always the immature h. Never a day over the age of twelve.
"Pocolodi"; Maturity involves a contruct of relative values. How do you presume to judge the maturity of others until you have displayed your own to be superior? Oh, that's right. That's a symptom of....immaturity....
40YearR,
I never said my maturity was superior. That's evidenced by the harsh tone I used regarding this issue, and that I indicated regret. But having any level of true maturity begins with someone being able to admit when they're wrong.... something you've demonstrated on many occasions that you're incapable of doing.
You impress me Re! Thanks for your support. Kiss B for me.
Stunning! You just confirmed why you impress me.
Pocolodi, I apologize. We are just just having a little fun. No , I am not after half the men on NW.
PS I would like to add that you seem to be taking stock of my and 40YearR posts. If they bother you..ignore them. And, like I said, I'm not after half the men here..only one. 40YearR.
Sorry, a quip once in a while is one thing, but you've been on half the boards with your "exchanges" with your love interest. Multiple threads are more than noticeable and difficult to "ignore." And I hate to be forward, but you've had these types of exchanges before. Don't embarrass yourself by forcing me to go there.
It's simple, just take these types of conversations to another site. This one is political.
First of all, you are not the moderator. Second, there is so much hate on these boards that a little show of affection should be welcomed. Third, no one but you is offended by this. Fourth, whatever my blogger friends and I post is none of your business. In conclusion, I am friendly with many bloggers including men amd no, I am not dating all the ones I blog with. None.You made this a bigger deal than this is by posting this for all to see...neither 40YR nor I posted anything about "slapping wet ones." He mentioned pear..that's all.
PPS Why would anyone offended go around and gather all of 4oYR and my exchanges to threaten us with?
No one is threatening you. No one needs to gather anything.... these types of posts from you are on many of the boards here. You're about as subtle as a train wreck, so you obviously have no idea of how obvious your posts can be. Understand that most people come here for political reasons, not to read about wet ones, pear juice, or other erotic conversations.
What train wreck? It is it's because you made in into one. You are the one who seems to have issues with this. Here's the thing, I apologized, but you continue with this. Also, you have no right to comment that I am picking up half the men here. Talk about slandering someone. I'm done now.
pocolodii is just playing you. It's nones business whatever the subject. Every blog i've been on at newsweek goes astray and most of them get rude as well. in your midst you have some strange ones who delight in insulting. Your coolness prevails. Cover them up in facts. It's the best ammunition. Look at the beating Obama and the Democrats put on MCCain and the Republicans this time. They can look foward to more in the future. insults are the weapons of COWARDS.
Rep- Thank you so much for this, I really needed it. I have been tearful all day over this...however, I agree with Pocolodi who was right, I had no business flirting with anyone. Nice of you to make feel better. I do.
Rep- do I know you under another screen name?
Possibly.
I had a feeling. Possibil;ity of a hint?
My dog says hi. I decided now that the elctions over it was time to let off of the throttle a little. Ferocity in a more civilized manner. promise not to share or i'll have to change again. Ok?
Repubssuck- I appreciate this....I am racking my brain but nothing. What breed dog? Are you F or M?
Bella is a pug
I knew it who it was after I read a post with NASCAR in it. See, I am very observant.
None of my business? You made it that way with your repetative, blatant posts.
I've made a big deal out of this for all to see? Sorry, you started doing that long ago. And how the hell do you know who is offended by this? I just happened to say something about it.
By the way....
Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/14/2008 12:25:02 AM
Comment:
I'd rather get a great big wet one!
*
Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/14/2008 12:27:10 AM
Comment: Wow! I do love a man with imagination. How about one of each?
No wet ones? Whatever.
It looks like you are the one enjoying reading this again and again. Please, be our guest and carry on. If you continue, it will regarded as abuse.
HEY ! PIA.
HOW DID HITLER KILL YOUR RELATIVES IN ITALY ?
WHY , WERE THEY KILLED ?
Hi T! Good to see you. My two uncles were shot by the Nazis for hiding two American GI's in the house. They were my grandmother's younger brothers. She at the time was 25 years old.
Pia, I know that your uncles were shot for protecting Americans before you were born, but it makes real the many tragedies of war. You lost two uncles you never met. They were heroes who paid the ultimate price. I imagine there were others who were willing to risk their lives for Americans, all of whom deserve our sincere gratitude.
It illuminates why I saw so much widespread Aloha for Americans when I was in Europe just less than 30 years after that war. It truly was impressive and obviously sincere, even among Germans. (Think about that...For me, it is not that much of a stretch to compare Nazism to Wahhabism, and to consider how the societies influenced by them did or would react to how we treat them.) It is such a shame that the last administration so alienated (I think scared) them. I also think that Aloha still exists at core, as demonstrated by Obama's rally in Berlin. Indeed, he is an inspirational figure for anyone who can see past their biases, but I surmised that that crowd was an expression of happiness about the prospective relief from the unwise and failed policies of the last eight years. They were not only obviously happy to see Obama, they were also happily waiving American (!?) flags. All of us who were influenced to think that the tensions of the last eight years were solely the fault or defect of 'those others', including regrettably myself, might reconsider that perhaps they do still like and admire us but maybe they have aversion to being treated like vassals and to having us scare Hell out of them.
Politics aside, all Americans owe deep gratitude to your brave relatives. Thank you.
40YR-you continue to impress me. Thank you for this. I will reply to you in length later. I did see your other post at the other board and left you a quick reply.
I knew you could be that old. They were your Great Uncles.
I meant couldn't be that old. I knew you were an Italian. My lady is too and her Grand parents were born in Italy. It goes without saying that I get the last word at home, that would be...yes dear!
You have good taste for choosing your lady. Yes, we Italians do get intense.
I saw Dick Morris mentioned in this article and wanted to post a comment..I don't care what he thinks. He hates the Clintons with a passion. I don't believe he supports Obama since right up until election night I was receiving his negative Obama articles through email. I signed up to receive his newsletter last winter and I have not re-newed. and won't.
hi pia, I think you should care about Dick Morris. He's one of the reasons the Democrats swept over the nastier than nasty Republican party. I encourage those Republicans that are left to heed his every word. to repeat and parrot everything he utters. I urge those that comment here, who share the opinions of Rush, Dick and Sean to follow in there footsteps like Lee Holmes. why worry about having to think for yourself when you can march in time with the archetects of the Republican disaster? Keep on keeping on.and thank you.
It would be hard to put it more succinctly, Repubssuck. The parrots and their otherwise-noncontributing ankle biters are truly dupes of these off-the-scale radicals. I'm not so proud of being a republican these days, but I do think our system will function better with two parties. The problem is that the repubs are so infected and dominated by these malfunctional dupes, one wonders how it can recover...
A 40 year republican
Hi Repssuck-I did trust Dick Morris at first, now I'm not sure what to make of him...I'm confused as to whose side he is one.
PS Hi to bella. I want you to know that all of this drama I caused is connected to an ex mutual friend of ours...Skp. who know who I mean. I know it was wrong of me, but I hope he sees it all.
Forty4-Replied to your comment. Please go read, thanks. You comment is wrong.
40yearR, pocolodi is a distraction. why would you waste your time? pocolodi makes Holyroller look like Einstein! pocolodi is just a pest. You've beaten his/her brains out, what more do you want?
Laughable... Pocolodi is right and you know it. He or she just spoke up... just like another poster did about a week ago. It gets old. Many of us want this to remain a political site.
You call someone else a pest? LMAO! As if you're anything more than a circus side show that rattles his cage when people pass by. Annoying, at the most. Do them a favor and stop antagonizing the situation.
Well Forty4. If you are referring to a few posts between a male poster about singer Gwen Stefani's music, then I am crushed. The poster who complained was none other than arizoiwa who likes to offend Obama supporters and has targeted me several times lately by posting insulting comments about my intelligence. I had never posted a single comment to him. And speaking of music, who posted a link to me to youtube the other day?
Have a nice blogging life.
This keeps happening... but it's always someone else's fault, isn't it?
You need help, Pia.
No, I don't. What was wrong with discussing music after a boring day of politics? Suppose it was to show someone I was happy without that someone?
What's annoying to you is that you lost your butt in november. You better learn to take it better because 2010 is going to come up fast. there are 19 Republican Senate seats up for grabs. I'm predicting right now we'll get at least 3 and maybe 2 more. As a gesture of bipartisanship, the newly elected Democratic Senate and House Memebrs said they would "cross the Isle". Of course they will have to , that's where the seats they just beat the GOP out of are located. The Republican party is shrinking fast. Right here on the Newsweek blogs those loud mouths like yourself and your buddy pocoweenie have lost you seat at the table.
Thanks, friend. You're so right. Btw, where is our HolyRoller? I am missing him lately, lol!
Hillary would be fabulous as Secretary of State, and Obama obviously thinks she'd be amazing too. I hope it happens - it would be so refreshing to see Hillary in her element and alongside Obama too! Good luck to both.
I strongly agree! Good to read you notrouble..where you been? We missed you on election night.
NEWS FLASH !
WILL OBAMA GIVE A LYING, DIRTY TRICK, POND SCUM, WICKED WITCH, EMBELLISHER LIKE HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON THE POSITION OF SECRETARY OF STATE ?
WITCH HILLARY FLYING AROUND ON HER BROOM OVER HOSTILE SNIPER FILLED LAND --- YUP !
SOUNDS GOOD TO BILL " BUBBA " CLINTON.
WHILE THE WITCH IS AWAY, BILL CAN CONTINUE TO PLAY - -- AROUND.
T, I understand how you feel but Bill is more than likely doing that now anyway.
HILLARY WOULD EARN A GOOD POINT WITH ME IF SHE CUT WEE WEE WILLIE'S THING OFF.
SHE DOES NOT USE IT ANYWAY.
I'm speechless.
IF HILLARY " THE WICKED WITCH " CLINTON LEAVES THE SENATE AND BECOMES SECRETARY OF STATE ; CAN'T PRESIDENT OBAMA FIRE THE W(B) ITCH.
COULD WORK !
The Republicans clicked their heels together , ala Larry Craig, and they went up in flames instead of Hillary.
A LOT OF MEMBERS SUCK IN CONGRESS IN BOTH PARTIES.
DEMS DO IT OPENLY, REPUBS DO IT IN THE CLOSET.
You Newsweek/MSNBC pundits just couldn't exist if you didn't have Hillary to bash. What have any of YOU done for your country that matches the peace, prosperity and surpluses the Clintons left after eight years in the White House? I pray Obama does as well.
ACTUALLY, I COULD GET ALONG JUST FINE WITHOUT CLINTON TRASH AND THEIR EVIL WAYS.
GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR A S S .
Lee Holmes, Still can't cope with the drubbing your now defunct Republican party recieved in November? it must be extremely embarrassing for you to show your face around these days. Over the months you've distorted the recordsof Democrats and defended the Republicans. How does it feel to be beaten by those you describe as not qualified? what does it say about you and your judgement? Let me ask you this. If you want to limit PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA to one 4 year term, why attack those would you say would hurt his chances? if your attacks had any credibility at all, would you be suggesting that the PRESIDENT-ELECT appoint more qualified persons? I'll answer for you, you're scared to death because it spells the end for you. No more boring those who pretend to like you, no more beating your chest now that you have failed. You as full of it as a Thanksgiving Turkey! Lee, please stay here with us. it will be a reminder to all of exactly what your party stood for and why it will never be a serious threat to our country again.. I hope you're froma one of our new Blue States Lee, that would be the icing on the cake!
I fail to see much worry when Pelosi and Reids UAW bailout went crashing down to defeat due to....Republicans,and a few common-sense Democrats. Take Stevens Democrat replacement in Alaska for instance.,senator-elect Begrich. The first thing out of his mouth is ''Drill Here''. The next thing to come out is that he would not submit loyalty to Obama or the other Democrats if they stray off of the centrist reservation or perform any act that threatens his consituants. The liberals are neatly boxed in. [forget the leftwingers. They will be no factor] . The combination of Republicans and like-minded Blue Dogs will keep your Anointed One in line who is already moving to the center.
Lee you couldn't find your butt with both hands. Since when did you become a centrist? Say good bye to the tax breaks for the rich. Say hello to tax cuts for the middle class. say good bye to illegal wire tapping. Say good bye to Union busting. Say good bye to manufactured evidence. Say good by to the Rulers and say hello to the governers. say good bye to the Republican Party and say hello to 20 years of a Democrat in the White house. You're old news and don't really have anything to offer the country except failed fiscal and foriegn policy. come back in 4 months and we'll see how the newly elected Senators, many who owe Obama for their success..
You are not making sense,which is de rigure is these parts as I have been able to ascertain. America,the vote for Obama notwithstanding,remains a center-right nation. No less than liberals [and NEWSWEAK Editor],Jon Meacham, Tom Friedman,David Broder, Paul Krugman,and other liberal lights have observed this reality. ''Blue'' only goes so far. [as Clinton found out to his misery] And you cannot promise that which has not been provided. Thus you do not know at this time,what you are talking about as regards foreign and domestic policy as not just envisioned,but actually acted upon by the Obama administration. Obama supports the wiretap program and will seek to continue it [thus gunning down one of your odd theses]. Obama is also hewing to the Iraqi -US Agreement [and a huge majority of Iraqis as well],that will not see the departure of US forces for another three years. Obama now appears to be backtracking on the Colombia portion of the US trade agreement as Venezuela is falling apart and is becoming increasingly unstable. He well knows that we will need an important ally in this region. He will keep Gates as Defense Sec. All of these areas are in comportment with GOP ideals. Obama now becomes the political pragmatist and will leave his leftwinged and more liberal disciples in the dust. [who are already whining about it as yesterdays front page of the Los Angeles Times illistrates and are already fingerpointing,as todays NEWSWEAK observes].
pocolodi, You're an upstanding and respectable person. i was wrong about you. It's always been a thing on the blog that if you mess with pia you mess with me. Good Luck and don't be a stranger.
Thank you Repub. (I can't make myself complete your name) Lol... Nice of you to say. I understand how you feel and know how close you are to her. (I think I know you by another user name) I have people here and at other sites that I feel the same way about.
I won't be a stranger... you and I will surely "go to the mat" another day! : ) Til then...
Thanks for the best wishes Lee. I knew you'd be a good loser. Well, i knew you'd be a loser at least. I know in your next post, you plan on tallying up the Billions that Cheney has made for Haliburton in the Middle East. I read that Haliburton got the contract for building the worlds largest Ferris wheel in Bagdad. They've been pretty lucky with their bids lately, haven't thay?
Do you wish to compare Soros and Cheneys stocks portfolios in HALLIBURTON or should I? You will find it ironic to no mean degree that several of Soros PACS including MOVEON and CAP are funded by HALLIBURTON dividends. I find it no loss at all in pointing such paradoxes out to the informationally challenged,and will continue to do so as the Obama presidency drags on.
"Holmes": Your vigilance would be more credible if it included as much 'information' on the republican/neocon insiders and influence purchasers as you offer about those you wish to accuse. Citations to sources other than right wing oracles would be appreciated. With those understandings, many of us would actually read your posts.
Actually, many of us do read Lee's posts, and has sited credible sources in the past. I may have missed something, but Ive yet to see any from you.
"Shanshayla": Yes you must have missed my many postings with citations, but that was up to election day. First arrived about 10 days before the election, and was horrified to see how many posters' recapitulation the anonymous smear emails that started when McC hired Rick Davis and the Bushies. These included postings by "Holmes". I provided many, many citations because there were so many lies and smears. Now, I am unreceptive to those whose ideology is only that the Dems are uniformly corrupt and will be the end of us all, especially since I now appreciate how deceived and blind I was to unthinkingly adhere to the republican ideology/propaganda for so long.
So, anyone who wants me to pay attention to their pitch (especially when it's just more of the same) has to demonstrate that they see the whole pie, not just the portion they want me to keep swallowing.
Otherwise, they're just chanting repudiated propaganda. Even if there is some truth, it has no credibility to me if it is not the whole truth, or if it displays the inability to see things in perspective.
A 40 year republican
Heh. Easy to accuse. Much harder to produce evidence that backs your play is it not?
This said,you are all bluff and no bite. I will ride circles around your nonsense,due to the fact that even those who are not a portion of your ''rightwinged oracles'',will be able to avoid painful truths. Namely,that you have exchanged one set of crooks for another. Feel better now? Or worse?
"Holmes": You will run circles around me only in that continuously looping fantasy in your mind.
My 'play' has been to point out that you have been a single note cacophany since before the election. You prove nothing other that you are a rabid right winger who compulsively must assert that Dems are the one and only source of ill and evil.
Ok, ok, Ya got me. The Dems are all crooks. The Repubs, NeoCons, influence peddlers, influences buyers, never existed. The Dems blew it in Iraq, The Dems made Dubya abdicate our national energy policy to be run by Cheney by secret meetings with big oil. The Dems looted trillions from the economy with their Credit Default Swap fraud. The Dems changed a budget surplus into a doubled national debt. The Dems caused the economic collapse. Ad nauseam.
It is unceasing rants like these that caused thinking moderates and conservatives to move away from ideologues with blinders on. All the smears and distortions you kept shouting during the election definitely influenced the election in the opposite way you intended. You now are just confirming to all of us who crossed party lines to escape the delusions behind our problems, made the right decision.
A thinking, nondelusional 40 year republican
Newflash for you mr 40 yr - Holmes is running circles around your endless posts without even breaking a sweat.
Hmmmm, Might your evaluation be as indicative as your vote?
No. You're pretty horrible. You do mostly lie.
Weak ALVY. Running circles around you does not translate into ''lies''even if it does create such consternation among your set that you feel that ad hominum,rather than actually producing these ''lies''with citations,becomes more expedient. Anyone can gather a pitchfork mob together. I will whip you in spades every time with facts that are gleaned from your own ideological confederates in media ,commentary and the passage of actual history. It thus becomes not even minutely neccesary to depend upon ''rightwinged oracles''.
''By our own arrows,and not by others,are we now stricken''
Anton Myrer ''Once An Eagle''. 1968.
Maybe I did. But you weren't here then to see Lee's many postings that included credible links months before the election. I was.
If you think the Republicans have a monopoly on "chanting repudiated propaganda", think again. The Democrats have chanted their share as well.
"Shanshayla", I am so glad this is not devolving to name calling, which I have come to regret is the so typical. So we understand each other, I was a strong supporter and voter for McC until the smear emails started right after McC fired his staff and hired Davis and the Bushies. At first I ignored them but they increased in number and repetition. They were directed at Obama only. I decided to ask everyone on my large email list (evenly distributed ideologically) to send to me every smear email they got. I got one, just one, against Palin, notwithstanding my numerous reminders. I received hundreds addressed to me, and many more that were forwarded at my request.
I compiled a list of links of debunks of the 20 or so most common. How many times did you receive or see in these blogs the birth certificate lie? How about the fabricated purported 'quotes' from his books?
These caused me to read Obama's books. As a skeptical professional with many years of education, I will tell you those books opened my eyes. I have never read any book by a politician that displayed such intellect or capacity to think in such erudite ways.
For whatever it is worth, I, a 40 year loyal republican, am ashamed and horrified that this election involved a level and relentlessness of lies and smears the likes of which I have never seen. Not within shouting distance. It is a corruption of our electoral process that is a much greater threat to our system than anything since Nixon. (I worked a year for Nixon's personal attorney, Herbert Kalmbach, not long before Watergate broke.)
Please do not suggest that I did not hear from or listen to all sides, or that I am not willing to consider all things in context. I do not suggest that of you. I still consider myself a moderate republican, but if the machine that ran the last election do the same in the next, the party will have lost me and many party faithful who also participated in the focus we decided to apply to the practices in the last, having started from the idea that the Dems are the bad guys to be feared.
A 40 year republican
This could be,of course,due to the fact that your side is more burdened with shysters and crooks than are the Republicans as there are admittedly more of them. Craig,Cunningham,DeLay,Lott,Stevens,Abramoff,and others are down and out. Yet BOARD GAMES,the investigation into Chicago and Illinois state corruption goes on [including a top Republican dealmaker among the hordes of Democrats]. Dodd [Senate Banking Chairman] is doddering over the demand for the release of his COUNTRYWIDE communications with CEO Angelo Mozilo these being the target of a federal grand jury in Los Angeles. William Jefferson[D-La] is headed for trial. Top aides to Maria Cantwell [D-Wa] and Barbara Boxer[D-Ca] have resigned under investigation on child pornography charges. Charlie Rangel[D-NY House Ways and Means Chairman] is under a federal probe for corruption.Jack Murtha [D-Pa] and Paul Kanjorski[D-Pa] are having to explain why millions in pork were steered to a business run by Kanjorskis relatives and millions more were sent to their respective campaign donors. This was supposed to be about ''Change'',was it not?
The Chicago Sun Times Nov.19,2008 ''REZKOWATCH/Operation BOARD GAMES'' www.sun-times.com
The Center For Responsive Politics www.opensecrets.org ''The Public Eye''.
PORKBUSTERS www.porkbusters.com
"Holmes': More hysterical drivel. Ok, ok. Ya got me. The Dems are all crooks. The Repubs, NeoCons, influence peddlers, influences buyers, never existed. The Dems blew it in Iraq, The Dems made Dubya abdicate our national energy policy to be run by Cheney by secret meetings with big oil. The Dems changed a budget surplus into a doubled national debt. The Dems caused the economic collapse. It is rants like these that cause thinking moderates and conservatives to move away from ideologues with blinders on. All the smears and distortions you kept shouting during the election definitely influenced the election in the opposite way you intended, and you now are just confirming to all of us who crossed party lines to escape the delusions behind our problems, made the right decision.
Give it up, dude, Holmes is killing you. I am actually embarrassed for you.
I'm not sure this article answered the.."wouldn't be a problem" except in terms of implications of what has happened before.
RICHARDSON FOR SECRETARY OF STATE.
HE had nothinn to do with CHinese PENETRATION. THAT WOULD BE ON THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE.
SECRETARY OF STATE DEALS WITH DIPLOMATIC NEGOTIATIONS. IF NUKES FLY, IT's ON THE DEFENSE SECRETARY.
Bill Richardson would be a great one eddie, but the fact that Bill Clinton is making available his donor's list means to me that Hillary is in. I hope if Richardson doesn't get that post he will become the Secretary of Energy like he was for Bill Clinton. As you know he served as Ambassador to the U.N. and Secretary of Energy.One can only imagine what the opportunity to be the Energy Czar would mean to him at this time with so many options for alternative energy on the table. I do believe it will save our country and provide replacement jobs for those we've lost. It may save the automakers as well. i guess i don't have to tell you i'm a Hillary Clinton fan but I honestly think that an alliance between PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA and the Clintons would lock us into majorities in both Houses of Congress and tthe Whitehouse for a minimum of 20 years. the republican party is in ashes and will never return to power until they purge themselves of the nastiness that defines them.
God is Good and Life is Good. C.U. later
GOD BLESS IOWA. THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR TRIGGERING THE OBAMA SUNAMI. IF HILLARY HAD WON IOWA McCAIN WOULD BE SITTING IN THE WHITE HOUSE WITH HIS 57 MILLION VOTES.
Gotta go. Getting Hungry, one can work up an appetite slapping you pathetic Republicans around. By the way, we didn't see any Barrys or Husseins or NOBAMAs today. Better get with it or I'll have to tell Hannity and Rush!
Just getting a handle on his own Obamaites doesn't seem to be working too well either.
As I observed in a Sept. 08,2008 posting , several members of the Obama team were creating problems in direct opposition to their own tenets in the area of ''change''. David Axelrods pork rewards from Obama while he was senator that were used to boot poorer Chicago patients out of the U of Chicago Medical Center that employed Michelle were one area. Penny Prizkers slipshod running -into-the --ground of her families Chicago SUPERIOR Bank by the gaming FANNIE and FREDDIE loan packages leaving hundreds of investors and homeowners high and dry was another. Rezko associate Valerie Jarrett is still around readying herself for a slot that Obama would not need Senate confirmation for,full knowing that Jarrett would be savaged for these connections and tossed out on her ear.
Good news in an admiitedly small package,however. CNN now reports that based upon her crummy running of SUPERIOR, Penny Prizker has ''dropped out'' of serving in the new administration. One down,three or four more to go....
CNN Nov.20,2008 :''Penny Prizker Drops Out''.
Today Fox News reported that photos showing President-Elect Obama consorting with a known convicted felon. It is alleged, that while a U.S. senator he was seen at an undisclosed location, in the District of Colombia, with none other than Senator Ted Stevens. Numerous calls were not returned by the President-Elects office. Fred Barnes said this just shows the double standard in place, "There would have been an uproar if a Republican had beeb seen with Stevens' according to Barnes..
wahhhh!!! Things like this is the reason the Republicans lost the election and stand to loose a lot more.
The american people are tired of the same old dirty politics and fear mongering. We dont know why he met with this guy or what the meeting was about. so untill all of the facts are in let's not jump to conclusions.
So, Obama ran on the change idea right? Isn't that why most people voted for him? So why is he using the same old people from the Washington political scene? But why would we actually attempt to ask him about this? Because he's our media darling and has been since he started this campaign.
Who's he supposed to use--Sarah Palin?
It is time for America to turn to love, friendship and forgivness. The clintons were an asset to electing Obama. It is time to put animosity behind and march forward. I think the Clintons will be of great asset to US regaining our prestige in world affiars. Hillary is the best choice to be our Secretary of state.
Dharam Nanan
And what Arab country are you writing from, Dharam? Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of a Islamo-facist organization?
said well
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