The Rights Of Animals

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  • Posted By: kinnari @ 11/20/2008 7:54:23 PM

    Excellent Article!! Thanks Peter !
    Most of us are ignorant & insensitive towards animals !! Only few courageous people can go against the wind of ignorant society to make such an assertive point !
    Humans are superior ... does not make them God. Animal have the right of respect that most human do not grant.... Such a shame :-(
    Thanks Californians !!! You are leading again..... a moral spirit of America !!!

  • Posted By: JimBobLA @ 11/20/2008 6:44:54 PM

    What a load of bull! Prof. Singer seems to have fallen into the conceit of so many philosophers, now unfortuantely adopted by a lot of lawyers--taking an outrageous idea and seeing how far you can run with it. It is time for a little common sense. The concept of rights has evolved to make it possible for humans to live together in large numbers without unduly massacring each other; it is fundamentally inapplicable to animals. We still have a way to go with human rights; the whole effort to apply the concept to animals is an insult to people whose human rights are not yet fully realized. I love animals--my wife and I have two cats, a dog, and a horse--and I want them to live long and well. BTW, I voted for California Prop 2. Humans ought to respect animals and care about them, not because animals have inherent rights, but because respect and love for animals is one of the higher attributes of being human. Wild animals deserve our protection as does wildness in general. Domestic animals are getting a pretty good deal (in most cases) as we protect them from disease and predation and in many cases ensure a painless death, which is not an option in the wild.

    • Posted By: PhilipS @ 11/20/2008 7:05:40 PM

      JimBobLA boy, You sound like two completely different people here. In the first half of your comment you rage against anyone who might not want to eat animals based on the idea that its unecessary to eat animals and cause so much suffering. Then you imediatly turn into an animal loving "outrageous" type...At least be consistant. If you think that people are taking things too far then why would you vote for Prop 2? And if you think its wrong for people to care so much for animals in the first half of your comment, why would you want your own animals to live long and well? It seems you have a problem with admitting you might care but find it to inconvenient to care about other animals you may not know. Or if you care to much it may change your life! Forget Prop2 and Go Vegan!!!

  • Posted By: hopenlove @ 11/20/2008 6:53:11 PM

    I think it was a great article and it is encouraging that people are opening their minds to animal rights. We do have a long way to go

  • Posted By: Dollar Wise @ 11/20/2008 6:44:52 PM

    What an article! Journalism is dead!

    You have to wonder what audience Newsweek is targeting?

    We all realize if you can't manage a college degree in a money making discipline, and mom and dad has spent the money to send you to college, the bail out is Journalism.

    I suppose when Newsweek goes belly up, they will point to the root of the demise as lack of Journalists.

  • Posted By: PhilipS @ 11/20/2008 6:43:53 PM

    "Auschwitz begins wherever someone looks at a slaughterhouse and thinks: they???re only animals."

     Theodor W. Adorno quotes ( philosopher, 1903-1969)

  • Posted By: PhilipS @ 11/20/2008 6:41:43 PM

    Enter Your ???Auschwitz begins wherever someone looks at a slaughterhouse and thinks: they???re only animals.???

     Theodor W. Adorno quotes ( philosopher, 1903-1969)

  • Posted By: PhilipS @ 11/20/2008 6:31:31 PM

    Enter Your CommentDear Over 5th Gen, Why are you comparing microbes to animals such as chickens, cows and lambs. If you raise these animals and can't tell the difference between viruses and animals then maybe you should reevaluate what you understand and maybe take up knitting and buy your food at the store. Or....why don't you go vegan and leave the animals alone.

  • Posted By: Over50-5th-Gen-American @ 11/20/2008 6:19:34 PM

    Well that's just stupid. Do we extend rights to microbes? Flu viruses have a right to propagate too, as do HIV and syphilis. And it all should be able to expand and grow and be *happy* damnit. Just like us thoughtful bipeds. I raise my own beef and my own lamb (yep, I'm a baby killer...) and I eat the unborn, in the form of chicken eggs. I must be evil incarnate. Oh wait. I give them room to move, so I must be an okay Joe. Sorry, I thought you were talking about cruelty to animals. It's okay to raise them and then kill 'em and chop 'em up. Just be humane about it. Let them turn around. I know the chickens apprecaite it.

  • Posted By: rdwyse @ 11/20/2008 5:41:52 PM

    It is amazing to me that people are so addicted to pleasing their taste buds that they will reduce themselves to this level of inanity on a public posting. At least have the capacity for self-awareness to admit that you would rather continue in any state of ignorance than take the chance and look at all the facts --you might learn something. How horrifying. And what you learn might force you to change the way you live; it might even mean that you can no longer bear to eat in the same way. My god, that would be absolutely terrible.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/20/2008 6:15:21 PM

      " It is amazing to me that people are so addicted to pleasing their taste buds that they will reduce themselves to this level of inanity on a public posting. "

      No, it's more that we're having fun making fun of zealots.

      You know...like you.

    • Posted By: tjrobison @ 11/20/2008 5:52:36 PM

      Is that perhaps your problem with reason and logic? Excessinve amounts of estrogen?

  • Posted By: jerzyboy349 @ 11/20/2008 6:09:30 PM

    How ironic that Peter Singer teaches at Princeton University. Each and every year, the township that Princeton University calls home, Princeton Township NJ, is responsible for the most brutal and most inhumane massacre of deer. The method used is "net and bolt" in which the deer are trapped in large nets and, while they struggle for their freedom in these awful traps, they are bolted in the head. The vast majority of Princeton residents support this annual practice and justify it by the fact that deer eat certain plants (that should never be grown in deer habitat) and are hit by cars in a town where the maximum speed limit rarely exceeds 35 mph. They also claim that deer spread lyme disease. My dogs passed lyme disease to me, but I elected not to net and bolt them. Call me "humane".

  • Posted By: PA Civil Servant @ 11/20/2008 5:58:00 PM

    The greatness of a nation and it's moral progress can be judged by the way it's animals are treated. - Gandhi

  • Posted By: CarpeDiem @ 11/20/2008 5:54:48 PM

    I already buy only cage-free eggs, meat from cage-free chickens, and fish from ethical and environmentally-sound hatcheries. This is a movement long overdue and I look forward to the positive legal changes on behalf of those animals we eat and those we do not.

  • Posted By: ncollins5900 @ 11/20/2008 5:46:50 PM

    I do agree that animals should have rights, but not rights as humans.. that's just not how God intended it. Animals are on this planet for man to rule over, and to use for food. This is the natural order of God's intentions with animals. Should animals have adequate living spaces? Yes. Should they be well feed, loved and taken care of? Yes. Is it wrong to kill a cow for steak? No. Is it wrong to use animals to test medicine on? Yes. Animals are simply to be used for means of food, not science. They are not a playground nor test subjects for whatever means.

  • Posted By: pederstriannw @ 11/20/2008 5:33:19 PM

    Why are plants less sacred than animals? Why the random, irrational prejudice and bigotry? Doesn't everything come from the same planet/galaxy/universe? Why do we need to discriminate? And why should humans be the ones to judge?

  • Posted By: tjrobison @ 11/20/2008 5:32:40 PM

    We are here as stewards of the planet. We have to be, we live here. However, I do not subscribe to the notion that the MINORITY should make rules for the MAJORITY. If you want to be vegan, by all means, but when you start making rules that affect how I can feed myself or my family based on your beliefs, then I have to draw the line. The time has come for those of us in the majority to put to bed the notion that if you whine loud enough your Nazi mentality will apply to all. In a Democratic Repulic like ours, the majority is SUPPOSED to RULE, not visa-versa.

  • Posted By: trueshot @ 11/19/2008 9:45:45 PM

    Perhaps, Tabi. But the point is that these animals are treated in the most unethical manner possible.
    Their conditions that they live in during their exploitation are so horrendous that it is immoral to support the industry.
    Whether eating meat is right or wrong is irrelevant. The fact that the animals suffer while they are exploited is wrong and,
    like the author points out, would be unlawful outside of the industry but not in it. Truly, this industry is so primitive, so miserable,
    that to let it continue in its current state is a demonstration of humanity's lack of compassion. The photos of the chicken farm abundant; look for yourself.

    • Posted By: tjrobison @ 11/20/2008 5:29:23 PM

      How do you know they suffer? Did you ask? Did they answer?

  • Posted By: tjrobison @ 11/20/2008 5:26:45 PM

    We are here as stewards of the planet. We have to be, we live here. However, I do not subscribe to the notion that the MINORITY should make rules for the MAJORITY. If you want to be vegan, by all means, but when you start making rules that affect how I can feed myself or my family based on your beliefs, then I have to draw the line. The time has come for those of us in the majority to put to be the notion that if you whaine loud enough your Nazi mentality will apply to all.

  • Posted By: bitterblogger @ 11/20/2008 4:38:33 PM

    What a load of nonsense.

    It's Corporate America that influences the vast majority of people regarding what they wear, think, and eat. Their lobbyists' access to politicians will continue more or less unabated, and thus, so will their influence, in legislation, subsidy, and rhetoric. While I see a burgeoning mainstream animal issues movement (do we really need to say "non-human" animals?) afoot, more and more are signing on along the lines of "animal welfare", as described by etbmfa previously, animal raising, meat-eating, pet-owning and leather- and fur-wearing has been around for centuries--and always will be. Hell, there are people who will do it just because others want it stopped--like cigarette smoking; that's never going away no matter how expensive or inaccessible--or dangerous. Comparitively, meat-eating is nothing like that.

  • Posted By: PhilipS @ 11/20/2008 2:37:49 PM

    Timberdoodle, Because YOU decide that you wish to kill animals for food is your choice. You have that right in this country. However, my decision to not eat animals and to educate those who do not realize that it is healthier to not eat animal flesh or drink cows body fluids which were originally meant for baby cows that is my right and you should understand that as we evolve as a species so does our idea of compassion and morality. If you choose to kill animals or choose to have a screen name like Timberdoodle that is your choice no matter how WRONG others perceive both choices to be.

    • Posted By: augustpersonage @ 11/20/2008 3:10:58 PM

      Not eating meat is NOT healthier, telling people that it is is not education, it is propoganda. Humans evolved to eat meat, how body structure, teeth, eyes, digestion, all evolved to eat meat. Hunter gatherers rarely have heart disease and they eat a lot of meat.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/20/2008 2:44:37 PM

      "However, my decision to not eat animals and to educate those who do not realize that it is healthier to not eat animal flesh or drink cows body fluids which were originally meant for baby cows that is my right"

      And it is our right to make fun of you when you try to "educate" us.

      Ain't America grand?

    • Posted By: Progressive American @ 11/20/2008 2:40:19 PM

      Maybe you should stop killing plant's babies, like apples or peaches. I bet they don't like it.

  • Posted By: PhilipS @ 11/20/2008 2:48:30 PM

    Doc Howl carries half a dead cow around in his colon. Progressive American is a regressive 6 year year old who's same stupid plants have rights joke over and over probably even makes himself feel like a the biggest dork on the comments page.

    • Posted By: Progressive American @ 11/20/2008 2:57:36 PM

      yes mr. vegan you are sooo much better than the rest of us. Your ethical views about animals leaves me speechless. I'll be sure send you an award for your ethical greatness.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/20/2008 2:51:47 PM

      "Doc Howl carries half a dead cow around in his colon."

      No, but I'm willing to give it a shot.

      Doc,
      Up for ANY PROGRAM.

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