A Recipe For a Family Fight

Ah! that ignorance and myth about about B12 and so on. B12 stays in your body for years. And animals gets it from bacterai too. The source of B12 is bacteria. Educate yourself a little bit.
besides, Billions of animals have to die and suffer becuase is hard for you to take a simple freakin supplement? What an utterally selfish and self-centred specisim world view! I
Besides all athat, how many vegetarains died by B12 deficiency?? All majoy causes of death are related to unhealthy diet full of Saturated fat/trans fatty acids=only found in animals products.

Horses are animals that sometimes can have canine teeth yet are herbivores (Stallions and geldings have four additional teeth just behind the incisors). Humans have the residual canines from our evolution, but they do not function in the same way as our ancestors- try to rip an uncooked piece of meat. Humans dislike uncooked unseasoned meat because we are no longer naturally predisposed to eat it.

vegetarians, eat your celery, I'll always have turkey and extra rare beef.

larry

You meat eaters can try as hard as you want to justify your diet, act like you don't care, or try to make fun of us vegetarians. But it is obvious that you are just trying to defend yourself, because deep down you know it is wrong, and you just don't want to admit to being unethical.

Honestly, how can any of you even start to argue with the beliefs of Albert Einstein or any of the others that I listed earlier. By no means am I saying that I am even close to such brilliant and revolutioinary minds, but the evidence is IRREFUTABLE. I do not think that any reasonable, atleast somewhat intelligent person could look at all of the facts, and admit that eating meat is a sound practice, morally, environmentally or health wise.

I did not want to make this an argument, but please stop trying to justify something that CANNOT be justified. Do the research yourself, and try to have an open, rational mind.

So if you are a meat eater and you are pissed off about vegitarians "pushing" their views on you....why would bother to not only read this article but also leave rude comments and then get mad that vegitarians comment back to defend themselves? I liked this article, it made feel like I wasn't alone going into my first Thanksgiving as a vegitarian. Then I read some mean comments and it really just f**ked it all up for me....SWEEEEEET!!!

you're not alone thanks for nothing, and I'm not trying to rip on all vegetarians - or vegans - I hope you've seen that in my posts. I do like to rip in a breed of people I call "thin skinned idiots" and I also like to rip on people who proclaim to be open minded and then proceed to show just how intolerant they really are.

As for the lady with the chickens... I've never butchered a chicken, but getting close to those stinky little monsters at my friend's home is enough to turn me off to chicken for a couple of days at a time.

I've found as I get older, I'm getting less and less interested in meat. Chicken and pork are losing favor with me... I don't know, however, if I could ever turn away from beef and lamb.... sigh... who knows.

As you are stuffing your faces this Thanksgiving do you realize the torture these animals receive their short traumatic lives? I don't see how anyone with a half a heart can do so. These animals are tortured by their owner/handlers daily by them, including raping the females! The men enjoy the sexual gratification from this act. They are also prodded in their vaginal and anal areas. The animals are also tossed on the floors, stomped, and left to die. I've been a vegetarian for 18 years, since I was 13. The issue with some of us is the treatment received prior to killing them. If the standards were held high and offenders held accountable for their actions would be another thing. But as you are well aware this does not happen. We can't even assist all of the pets who continue to be abused and killed by your next door neighbor and I don't think for a minute those of you if able would allow that. It's not all black and white people. EVERYTHING on this planet should be treated with care and compassion for it's entire life. Even if the animal is considered a food source.

Seriously, every vegetarian who is on their high horse, including time2evolve, Sarah-H, and chandresakher14, needs to step down RIGHT NOW.

Unless you guys are PETA members, and in that case it's pretty much a lost cause to argue since most members are hell-bent in pushing their own agendas while using misrepresented statistics.

Realize that this is a holiday for families to come together to give thanks. Having turkey is a tradition, yes, but it doesn't mean it HAS to be YOUR tradition. Suck up your gut, try being TOLERANT of others that are DIFFERENT than you (and even who you once WERE), and move on. It's surprising, but life will be much easier for everyone if we just fought for the things that do need change (cleaner fuels) and stop bickering about the things that will not matter in the end (like pushing your culinary preference on others).

Happy Thanksgiving everyone, vegetarian, meat eater, omnivore, whoever, even PETA members.

Voracious meat eaters will always defend eating meat. Sure, It's no skin of their backs. Showing dominance and disregard for the well being of others is common place in this world This is obvious by just looking around at us as a society and what we do in times of war. Perhaps some of you should invest 2 hours of your busy lives to watch EARTHLINGS the documentary from beginning to end. It can be rented or watched free on youtube. Then if you still want to eat meat then perhaps that is who you are. Eating meat is not what i am. Pretending to be thankful while sitting at a table with a murdered centerpiece is very ironic. If you really set aside mindless tradition and look at it for what it is it becomes much clearer. If eating meat if not for you I ecourage you to join the forum at rethinkhumanity . com. Love and happiness. Cheers.

My daughter and I are vegetarians, my husband is a flexitarian, that is to say that he enjoys family vegetarian meals in our home and meat with his meals when eating out. I have a couple of issues to comment on. First, I would ask vegans/vegetarians to be patient when fielding ?'s from meat-eaters. I think most of us know the difference when someone is truly trying to offend or someone is asking ignorant ?'s because of lack of knowledge and/or curiousity. I say this because for 2 years, I was the ignorant/curious asker of my nephew's girlfriend, constantly asking her how, what, where and why she was a vegetarian, I now endure those same interrogrations. I take most of those ?'s as compliments because they care enough to know about me and my choices. Second, there is SOOO many reason for vegetarianism. Moral convictions, environment concerns, don't like the taste, meat makes you sick, etc... please don't assume to know why and please don't assume that we (vegetarians) are all radical. I would never consider bombing Lindsey Lohan with flour sacks for wearing fur and do not condone that type of behavior. I don't codone wearing fur or leather either. The way I see it we moral/ethical vegetarians are suppose to be a non-violent group, right? Thirdly, there are several reasons why there are meat imposters. Some like the taste of meat but cannot eat it for health reason, or won't for moral reasons. For me, oddly, I don't like the taste of meat, never have, but relied heavily on meat substitutes because I needed to get out of the 'all meals need meat, potato,dessert, etc'.., pattern that I was stuck in from my up-bringing.
? to those that would reply, how can I get my daughter's teacher to respect and give the grade she deserves for science class after her refusal to participate in the frog/cow eye/animal liver dissections?