The Lieberman Lesson

The Dems need him in the Caucus,especially if Minnesota and Georgia go Democrat. We have been down this road before. In 2000,it was Vermonts ''Jumpin Jim'' Jeffords,who left the GOP becoming an Indpendant and sided with the Democrats handing temporary control of the Senate over to them.[Clift treated him as a hero,however,and did not deal the kind of dross on him that she now metes out to Lieberman]. Ostricize Lieberman,and he goes into the GOP ranks perhaps for good,and will act as a foil to Democrat machinations.

Isn't it "lay"? As in the lions LAY down with the lambs?
In the strictest grammatical sense, 'lie' is an intransitive verb, whereas 'lay' is transitive. Conceptually, 'lie' is something you do to yourself, and 'lay' is something you do to yourself, and 'lay' is something you do to something/someone else.
Word Example
lie You look tired. Lie down and rest.
lay Lay down the keyboard and step away from the computer!
The past tense, however, gives many people fits. The past tense of 'lie' is 'lay', and the past tense of 'lay' is 'laid'.
Word Example
lay She lay in the shade, remembering her youth.
laid He laid the infant in the crib.
http://www.planetoid.org/grammar_for_geeks/lie_vs_lay_vs_laid.html

To Kemosabe
the issue is not Joe's speaking conscience but what he said, not just at the GOP convention but for other Republicans lower on ladder. Personally I think the Dems tolerate too much voting of one's own conscience - and they tend to point in different directions as a result.
But Joe is looking at this only through the lens of Iran and Israel - as if there are no other issues. Personally I do not think this country should bankrupt itself making peace in the middle east when some of the danger can be managed the same way the Cold war was.

Liebermann has apologized for those thing he said. it's a non-issue for me now. I think he realized that mcCain might be his only hope. He won office as an independent but the competition was weak He figured his future as a Democrat was over and jumped in with both feet. He thought the Hillary vote would go to mcCain. He figured wrong and is lucky that we need his filibluster vote is essential to reed or he's be on the outside looking in. his first chance to make amends will come when the Stimulus package for the middleclass comes to the floor. Since it doesn't contain tax breaks for the rich, the republicans will surely oppose it. In 2012, 19 more Republican Seats are up for grabs and the democrats will get at least 3 and maybe 5. Leibermann's services will no longer be required at that point.

Eleanor is having sexual fantasies again.

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I don't disagree with your premise here, that it was in Obama's best interest to be the bigger man when dealing with Lieberman. I think this blog puts into perspective all of the reasons he is actually more dangerous as a Senator than he was before 2004. He has been frustrated and bitter towards the Democrats because he wasn't put up as the Presidential candidate. http://www.pragmaticpundit.com/2008/11/democrats-dump-principles-for-lieberman.html
He's bitter, and behaving like a petulant child. It's sad. He used to be a man who earned people's respect.

An independant? is that a joke? Leiberman is an agent of Israel and the AIPAC. So Obama is telling us, "Israel still owns and operates Washington and will continue to dictate our foreign policy in the gulf region." Same as the old boss.......

What is it, again, that they say about revenge ?
All in due time Joe.

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