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Renowned economic pessimist Nouriel Roubini approves of Obama's picks, but they face grave challenges ahead.

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  • Posted By: kkhan @ 11/27/2008 8:45:30 AM

    I CANNOT TOLERATE THIS LUNATIC, INSANE , FANATICAL & HYSTERICAL SUPPORT FOR THIS ROOKIE SENATOR ( OBAMA ) AS PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A. IT DISGUST ME WITH EXTREME ANGER & PITY FOR ALL THOSE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN AT THIS POINT & TIME OF OBAMA'S POLITICAL PURSUITS & AMBITIONS. I DEEM THIS A FATAL ERROR IN JUDGMENT & PREDICT DEEP REGRETS AROUND THE WORLD - SO HELP ME GOD.
    Kabil Azad Khan.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 12/04/2008 3:32:23 PM

      " I CANNOT TOLERATE THIS LUNATIC, INSANE , FANATICAL & HYSTERICAL SUPPORT FOR THIS ROOKIE SENATOR ( OBAMA ) AS PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A."

      Nobody cares.

    • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/29/2008 4:34:03 PM



      So help you that....Loving God...?

  • Posted By: johnallenlee @ 11/27/2008 3:14:53 PM

    I don???t understand the extreme positions some people take even before Obama has taken office. I believe he is doing what previous presidents should have done. Selecting the best people based on their character and skills. Perhaps only a man of color really understands what that means. This is the kind of change we need. I also don???t understand the hate e-mails going around that seem to be coming from the so-called religious right. I pray for his safety from these extreme-thinking radicals. John Lee

    • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/30/2008 4:19:44 AM



      WORD, johnallenlee...

  • Posted By: R32Pilot @ 11/26/2008 1:34:28 PM

    So now we are going to "rebuild the economy" on the backs of those who knew better for the sake of those who didn't. The "deregulation bogeyman" hasn't harmed me one bit but the individuals (consumers, bank executives, politicians, etc.) who were too stupid and/or ignorant to bother to understand where their money was coming from or where it was going sure are promising to.

    I can think of very few spheres of existence where risk and reward are not directly proportional yet we now have many people with their hands out crying about not being able to pay their bills because their ARM went up or their salary went down or because gas got expensive. Somehow these possibilities never entered their minds when they were signing on the dotted line. How do you con someone into a mortgage? Do we pass a law saying that all contracts have to be written at a second grade level using words of no more than 3 syllables? Where do you draw the line where you bail out person A and not person B? "A" wasn't smart enough to know what they were getting into but "B" should have known better so let 'em swing. Or do we bail everyone out and guarantee a certain level of existence for an individual without regard to their ability/willingness to contribute to society?

    I resent the fact that my government is making this my problem. My home has lost value now that there's an over-supply of houses (much nicer and larger than mine) in my area following a decade-long boom in construction. Now I have to pay AGAIN so that these poeple can stay in the homes that they can't afford??? This is anything but laissez-faire economics.

    • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/29/2008 4:43:03 PM



      They did it with millions of political contributions, so they could make trillions selling Credit Default Swaps and the like. They hurt you. You just don't know how the got away with it. There is way more more new money being given to the fat cats now than will ever be the net price you will pay to actually fix the problems. This republican administration is making it your problem, the same way they allowed the problem to occur. Nope, this isn't laissez-faire economics, the accomodation of the problem creation was.

      A 40 year republican

    • Posted By: Blackcourt79 @ 11/26/2008 1:56:11 PM

      Amen.

  • Posted By: bighappy @ 11/26/2008 11:55:24 PM

    Year 2012. Obama asks for next 50 trillion bailout to revive our economy. People complain that it will increase their taxes by 1%.

    • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/29/2008 4:32:55 PM

      Wonder why he might be having to do that...

  • Posted By: Perusing-through @ 11/25/2008 8:10:43 PM

    WHERE IS THE ALL WISE BUSH & CHENEY?

    Oh, I know, now that the economy has turned sour and in the worst shape since the Great Depression, the dynamic duo is trying to make a "CUT & RUN" strategy.

    Even if Bush never caused any of these national disasters, he is still accountable to the people to fix the problem, or to come up with solutions. Apparently Bush never heard the phrase . . . "The buck stops here".

    BUSH IS COLLECTING A "COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF PAYCHECK" WHILE AWOL.

    • Posted By: Blackcourt79 @ 11/26/2008 10:08:32 AM

      No matter how much you want to point the finger Bush and Cheney are not responsible for the irresponsible actions of our corporations and citizens. They created this debacle by spending far more money than they were making. If its anyones fault I would point the finger towards the Democrats who believed under Clinton's administration that it was the right of every citizen to own a home... even if they couldn't afford it. Meanwhile he started sending our jobs over seas with all of the free trade agreements he put into place. Meanwhile the American worker became too expensive to employ, but they still need our money, so instead of advertising to you they are going straight to the source and sucking it out of our tax dollars where only our congress has the ability to stop them. Problem with that is congress is on the corporate payroll... so they don't mind bailing people out for being irresponsible... they are going to get a cut of when its all said and done anyway.

      • Posted By: bighappy @ 11/27/2008 12:06:56 AM

        During Clinton time old regulations still worked, MIT graduates were still developing now famous gambling scheme. Bush missed time when he could request changes in regulations. there were economists and Congressmen who warned about consequences. Congress leaders must carry equal responsibility and resign.

  • Posted By: Dollar Wise @ 11/25/2008 1:19:47 PM

    This must be the Bush Bashing Message Board. Or is this the Barry Obama Web Posting Team attacking another message board? Either way, Dr. Doom is merely a Neo-Keynesian Economist. He's getting his 15 minutes of fame. Good for him.

    Dr. Doom is however not Alexander Hamilton, Adam Smith, Milton Friedman, or even John Kenneth Galbraith.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/26/2008 6:26:12 PM

      "This must be the Bush Bashing Message Board."

      You say that like it's a BAD thing.

  • Posted By: brydges @ 11/25/2008 12:14:56 PM

    Blame Bush not the idiots in congress. They have no control over the financial markets. - You people are so brainwashed it's sad. Try reading a real news outlet, not Newsweek.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/26/2008 6:25:31 PM

      I blame them all.

    • Posted By: dor-republican @ 11/25/2008 1:38:50 PM

      only the president has control over the economy what are you in second grade this is the funniest thing i ever read in a political discussion thanks for the laugh i must show this comment to others

      • Posted By: brydges @ 11/25/2008 1:54:10 PM

        That was sarcasm moron,

        • Posted By: dor-republican @ 11/25/2008 2:06:11 PM

          look whos a moron you dont even understand basic politics. Dont speak what u dont know, and you will not be meet with intended sarcasim. have a NICE DAY.

          • Posted By: brydges @ 11/25/2008 2:19:03 PM

            Someone who can't understand English really shouldn't preach poliics to other idiots

          • Posted By: brydges @ 11/25/2008 2:11:19 PM

            My comment was sarcastic, this one isn't - I was poking fun at the idiots on this sight who blame Bush rather then Congress. Did I dumb it down enough for you.

        • Posted By: dor-republican @ 11/25/2008 2:07:55 PM

          yea right good attempt at a save buddy

  • Posted By: R32Pilot @ 11/25/2008 1:47:30 PM

    I'm no fan of Bush nor the rest or our government. I don't, however think that it's accurate to blame our economic woes on "deregulation" per se. The problem as I see it is that we expect to be protected from the repercussions of our own stupid decisions. My wife and I are middle-class and doing just fine. After 11 years we still live in our starter home that we bought with 20% down (that we saved) which cost roughly 1/2 to 1/3 of what we could have been approved for. We waited 8 years to have our one child in order to make sure we were both financially and emotionally ready. My point is that we didn't need regulations to keep us from making completely stupid financial decisions. We just always thought that if we couldn't pay our mortgage we'd lose our house. Instead we appear to have deregulation without reponsibility and it's folks like us who are now going to be forced to surrender wealth in order to protect those who weren't smart enough to be trusted with gasoline and matches.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/26/2008 6:24:50 PM

      Good for you (I am not being sarcastic). Problem is, while people here and there may be smart, you are surrounded by 6.5 billion dumbasses, 300 million of which are your neighbors.

    • Posted By: marley07 @ 11/25/2008 2:58:36 PM

      agree with your comments. Amazing to me that nobody seems to think the American people are at fault in anyway and that they should be held accountable for their own decisions.

    • Posted By: dor-republican @ 11/25/2008 1:59:23 PM

      very very well said. why cant more people think like you. it nice to hear from SMART people

  • Posted By: Bona Phide @ 11/25/2008 7:37:20 PM

    There is no doubt that both sides share a portion of the blame in the current crisis we now face. Most of the banking issues can be traced directly back to de-regulation, and no one can argue that if they know what they are talking about. The regulations that have been abolished for the last 28 yrs were put in place during the Great Depression to prevent what is now happening again.

    The free trade agreements put in place by the Republican controlled congress, and signed into action by Bill Clinton have caused lots of jobs to flow to countries with cheaper labor. That needs to change.

    If you have been listening to Obama at all you would know that he sees the mistakes from both sides, and that is a central theme to his message of change. A modernized New Deal re-building of infrastructure with Green energy implementation, modernized regulations of banking risk, and an emphasis on boosting the middle class to jump start demand and purchasing are core initiatives that we have not seen for the last 8 yrs. Also, his desire to eliminate the profits our corporations gain by shipping jobs overseas is also a much needed stimulus to the American Worker.

    It's those core initiatives, coupled with one of the best economic teams available, that are a recipe needed to get our economy on the path to recovery.

    • Posted By: Blackcourt79 @ 11/26/2008 10:10:49 AM

      Yeah Obama is terrific... a vote for change is a vote for a new Clinton administration... how many of his cabinet members aren't associated with the Clinton administration? That is the same administration that sent tens of millions of our jobs overseas so that corporations that make the largest donations could upsize their profits. What a great answer to our problems... *rolls eyes*

  • Posted By: marley07 @ 11/25/2008 2:17:41 PM

    Part of the problem withe markets and how we got into this mess are very complex. investors face incomplete information, contradictory theories become more difficult to justify in the face of recent trends. In this sense the market is being redefined in terms of group trends and collective incentives leading to poor outcomes rather than rational individuals judging each situation without bias.
    The growth of mortgage indebtedness from 2002-2006 was fueled by securitization of mortgages into a package that could then be sold off to investors in the ???originate to distribute??? model. During this time the aforementioned extension of credit allowed financial institutions to increase leverage, or debt to equity ratios, which amplified losses. The question is: whether the fact that there was low perceived risk allowed the situation to become riskier. In other words, the low cost of risk created an environment where risk might be thought of as even less prevalent and reinforce the extension of credit. Interestingly, if risk is priced properly and adjusts to new conditions, leverage will be cut down by the market itself because debt will cost more???simple supply and demand. Unfortunately during these credit booms, the price of risk is dislocated and other incentives (bankers, rating agencies) work to expose the system to more risk than is appropriate. The aggregate increase in leverage must be correlated to reduced perceived risk on the part of lenders and on the part of the people receiving the leverage. A regulatory answer would be to require higher capital requirements for financial institutions, which would offer a broad containment policy on risk.

    • Posted By: Blackcourt79 @ 11/25/2008 2:57:06 PM

      In other words greed and corruption in corporations and government is responsible for our debacle. Just wait till all these bail outs don't work and the US tax payer is indebted to foreign countries for trillions of dollars.

      • Posted By: techie22 @ 11/25/2008 5:20:56 PM

        Shame you weren't paying attention but the Chinese and Saudis
        already own trillions in debt from paying for Bush's war. The only
        way for our global economy to survive is to stimulate that which
        was mis-appropriated by all the knee jerk Bush policies.

        • Posted By: Blackcourt79 @ 11/26/2008 10:03:26 AM

          The wars that Bush started in Iraq and Afghanistan have totaled about $700 billion... not trillions. Bailouts are only going to do one thing and that has been proven over the last few months.... more and more people are going to be expecting a hand out and they are going to act irresponsible because they know that the government is bailing everyone out. What do the people who have been responsible get? The shaft.

  • Posted By: dor-republican @ 11/25/2008 5:43:22 PM

    so now the economys problems went back to the war. maybe the new democratic campaign slogan should be the ping pongers. what would have been your solution in lieu of war? im curious all dems are anti war so offer up a solution doing nothing? or funding the terrorist more money to attck us as in clinton admin

    • Posted By: Bona Phide @ 11/25/2008 6:51:27 PM

      Don't you mean the Reagan administration? I'm pretty sure is was George Bush, when he was director of the CIA, that funded and armed Afghani freedom fighters. You see at that time Bin Laden was an ally, because he was fighting the Russians. When Bush became VP under Reagan they continued to fund the Afghanis, and the Iraqis to continue their wars with Russia and Iran. Please get your facts straight before you try to play the tired old Clinton card once again...

      • Posted By: dor-republican @ 11/26/2008 9:39:05 AM

        Father and son conspiracy therory doesnt fly congress and allied countries agreed to war so did obama. 911 commission report directly tracks clintons financial assistance to terrorist camps. also explain first attack on world trade during clinton admin.clinton.

        • Posted By: dor-republican @ 11/26/2008 9:42:18 AM

          also you still didnt answer the question what should have been done? not one dem can answer that and iam very open minded i would like to know if i get intelligent answer i might change my position on the war.

  • Posted By: klebrun @ 11/25/2008 10:44:54 PM

    Predatory borrowers???

    The Long Island Housing Partnership has found homes for some 2,000 low income purchasers through this debacle. The default rate for these low income borrowers, after counseling by this not-for-profit, is negligible. Zippo! Nada!

    Which suggests that many of those who defaulted were conned into mortgages that they did not understand and could not afford - not that any of these subprime lenders making obscene fees selling subprimes would engage in such conduct.

    And most people in the chain of command knew and understood the process, but somebody at the top was hell bent to prove that deregulation and tax cuts were our salvation and squelched any dissent.

    And now those same con artists who got us into this mortgage mess are fraudulently offering their services to renegotiate mortgages for those in default.

    And the sad part of this mess is that the Democrats did not impeach W and Dick because they understood the mess that was coming and knew that if they did impeach them they would have been blamed for the crisis because they impeached them.

  • Posted By: marley07 @ 11/25/2008 7:55:44 PM

    The stock market is a discounting mechanism. We will probably see a short term bounce (3-5 months) that is fairly significant. The media will come out and tell you things are better and it is because of government. Make no mistake, the pain will not be over. Estimates for companies have come down dramatically for 2009 but not enough and once real numbers begin to come out, the makrets will take another leg down. Energy has been the leadership in the markets for a while now, mainly oil, and that will lead us on this short rally. New leadership will emerge after we correct again. What that will be is unkown, but there will be new leadership in the makrets. The problem is, the markets are way ahead of mainstreet. and mainstreet is going to feel pain for a very long time. Don't let the media fool you.

  • Posted By: 4TruthinessNokc @ 11/25/2008 4:32:11 PM

    Well, not all the credit (or blame) is on Bush, the ???decider.??? Both parties had opportunities to put on the brakes. But the facts are that this meltdown started 25 years ago with the deregulation policies of Ronald Reagan and his 1987 appointment of Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan and later assisted by the deregulation act championed by the former general co-chairman of John McCain???s presidential campaign, former Sen. Phill Gramm. If you really want the full story, read the article at the URL below. Here is the Readers' Digest version:

    ??? December, 1982 --The Garn-St Germain Depository Institutions Act was enacted. This Reagan Administration initiative was designed to complete the process of giving expanded powers to federally chartered S&Ls and enabled them to diversify their activities with the view of increasing profits.
    ??? In February of 1989, less then 7 years after the initiation of this major banking deregulation, President Bush (the first one) unveiled the 600 billion dollar S&L bailout plan. The number of S&Ls dropped from 4,600 to 2,000.
    ??? A couple years prior to the S&L bailout, in the spring of 1987, the Federal Reserve Board votes 3-2 in favor of easing regulations under Glass-Steagall Act, overriding the opposition of Chairman Paul Volcker. The Glass-Steagall Act was put in place as a response to the stock market crash of 1929 and the ensuing Great Depression to create barriers between investment banks and commercial banks.
    ??? In August 1987, Ronald Reagan appointed Alan Greenspan, a strong believer in Laissez-faire markets, to become chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, thereby setting in place a series of events that would ultimately result in the financial industry tearing down what remained of the Glass-Steagall Act.
    ??? In 1999, Sen. Phil Gramm (R-Texas), led the Republican-controlled congress to repeal the last of the depression-era banking regulation law with passage of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act.

    Nine years later, we have the worst financial meltdown since the Great Depression. The details are here: http://seekingalpha.com/article/71265-the-credit-bubble-deregulation-gone-wild

    Regardless of whom you choose to blame for what, we should all stop with the finger pointing and name calling. That???s the kind of radical, hate-filled politics that helped to put us in this situation and still threatens to divide this country. The US will recover, but to do so both parties must work together.

    • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/25/2008 6:38:34 PM



      Bethcha dat's another new name ya got der

    • Posted By: dor-republican @ 11/25/2008 4:57:42 PM

      for someone who doesnt think we should point fingers you most certainly are pointing fingers.

  • Posted By: Steve B @ 11/25/2008 6:12:31 PM

    The American people finally decided to elect the right man for the job. It took us 8 bad years to learn our lesson but It feels good to know that we will once again regain our dignity around the world and be able to controll our own destiny once again.

  • Posted By: Steve B @ 11/25/2008 6:07:47 PM

    I guess the American People know what they were doing when they elected Obama.
    I am not surprised. In the end we are what we have always been The best there was, the best we are and the best we will always be in the world.

  • Posted By: dor-republican @ 11/25/2008 4:45:53 PM

    didnt the market start a downward spiral after the housing crisis.? wasnt the subprime mess the start of it all? wasnt 60% FHA loans? were freddy mac/frannie mae for lower incomes? what income bracket is in foreclosure? why were the standards of lending lowered?why were people who had no jobs or making 20 thousand a year buying homes? to me these dont sound like republican policies

  • Posted By: techie22 @ 11/25/2008 4:00:47 PM

    Credit card companies - mercy from Vampire policies

    Credit card companies need to ease up on the noose around their customers' neck.
    If they continue the high rates plus endless fees, they will have no victims left.

    Since the Cheney bankrupcy laws pretty much endenture the person like the last turn
    of the century's company store, the banks need to reduce the rates and scale back punitive
    damages that they've imposed on their customers over the last several years.

    Gravy train has been over for awhile but the banks lied to make their books look better. Either
    cut everyone some slack or be held accountable for all the lies..

  • Posted By: marley07 @ 11/25/2008 3:27:04 PM

    Buckle your seatbelts!! We still have a long way to go! Commercial real estate and credit cards are the next shoe to drop, probably beginning in 09'. We may see JP Morgan run into problems next year. Millions more jobs will be lossed through next year, GDP will remain negative. Before all of this, we will see the worst black friday and christmas retails seasons we have seen in years if not decades...

  • Posted By: marley07 @ 11/25/2008 3:11:06 PM

    The relationship between risk and credit is the main culprit as they are very closely connected. Back in 2001, Greenspan indicated that it was the unfortunate tendency of bankers to reduce lending standards leading up to the height of a cycle. Historically the probability of a banking crisis increases by 50-75% during a boom in lending. In other words, high extension of credit creates risk of a bust.
    This is how we got into this mess along with many other factors, like people buying things they simply could not afford meaning the american people have a big hand in this mess as well. One I find most entertaining is all the comments that blame Bush and his policies but rarely do they comment on which ones and how they made the impact. You can blame government, individuals within it, corporations, banks, whoever you want, but there is not one reason or one person who created this crisis.

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