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The Pakistan Connection

Evidence is still sketchy, but tensions are already rising between India and its nuclear-armed neighbor.

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  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 01/01/2009 12:20:59 PM

    shahrukh is a slot machine
    anyone can park in the lot
    and he spews spunk

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/16/2008 1:34:53 AM

    Hope NWFP goes to afghanistan as pastuns hav ebeen wanting it since artificail created pakistan cam einto existence. pastuns have never accepted NWFP as part of Pakistan.
    Baluchistan is better independent as Pakistani punjabis are exploiting baluchi natural gas filed and depoisting ill gotten money in the ir swiss bank accounts.
    Northern areas - that part of kashmir that Pakistan cyunningly separated from Kashmir and Pakistani occupied Kashmir will be easy to get back to India.
    Sindhi mojhajirs can then fight against pakistani punjabi hegemony over all of Pakistan.
    It will be better for the World too when Pakistan disintegrates. Less terrorist to wrry about then.
    How wide is pakistani punjaby ? may be about 200 miles.
    ! week of battle will it all take to tak ecare of jihadi terrorist confronting them inside their homes.
    That is the best way. Go inside their houses and confront them jihadi fanatics.

    • Posted By: malikrose3 @ 12/21/2008 2:55:41 PM

      Ram Das (shah Rukh) you are an insane and Idiot thats why you can't understand. As I mentined in my comments before, whatever India, US and others think and plan, Pakistan is to stay and to last longer than India. Ram Das you should know that in more than half the states of India there are momnets of Independence from India and they will leave an oppressive and cruel society, where minorities are not safe in any way and not only treated as third class citizens and are believed not to be the part India.
      Can anybody tell me the percentage of Muslims, Sikhs, Christians and others in Indian Government jobs. What is the growth rate of Minorities in India as compared to HINDOS in India. No comparison at all. It doesn't matter how large population India has. India can't continue its oppression and creulity against its minorities.
      And furthermore, reason India has been so for successfull in propaganda because pakistan doesn't have a strong government rather puppetts working for US for thier personal gains and this can't continue either. Soon these puppets will be out and a strong government will deal well with India.
      India created its own 9/11, like US did in an attempt to take advantage of the situation and try to be a victim, but truth will be out, many Indian writers have already strated saying that it was an insider job and killing of police chief is a clear proof as he was investigating bomb blast on samjota Express (train). Keep in mind in this explosion which killed 100s was planned and carried out by an Indian Army Colonel in collaboration with other army officers. And murdered chief arrested that colonel and his associates. Hindo Terrorist organizations have already claimed thier involvement in many terrorist activities and have acknowledged involvement of army officers in these terrorist activities.
      India is a country wheer more than half the population lives at the bottom of poority level. India should come out of this insanity to teach pakistan a lesson and should spend its resources to provide shelter and food to its cryign population.

  • Posted By: kkhan @ 12/17/2008 9:25:50 AM

    It is not what Musharaff can do Mr. Shah Rukh, it is what Zardari cannot do that matters. Here is a quote by Margret Mead,
    '' Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.''
    I am not an advocate of terrorism, but let me tell you that for every 1000 Gihadist that are killed, another 1000 is immediately born.
    Kabil Azad Khan.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/16/2008 1:29:32 AM

    What can mushraff do?
    He is a Mohajir from delhi. His uncle still lives in Old delhi.
    Mushraff lost kargil battle.
    He is just a loser.

  • Posted By: kkhan @ 12/15/2008 4:20:16 PM

    Don't start a war you cannot finish Mr.Singh ( P.M. ). Zardari is a chicken, never meant to be the leader of a nuclear nation - Musharaff should be reinstated, then the real ball game will begin.

  • Posted By: natasha @ 12/01/2008 3:39:44 PM

    dear freethinker, if you read the article i mentioned, it says that the few exceptions to the rules exist. there are a few wealthy muslims. but, as i said, the writer is an indian muslim and must know about those exceptions. my point in mentioning it was, there are unhappy muslims in india, its a truth that cannot be denied.

    and its true what u have said. pakistan has an atrocious record with minorities, i would be the first to admit.
    cant say about bangladesh, never read up on it. so if a hindu pakistani tomorrow decides to blast someplace out of frustation, nobody here would blame india. we will blame ourselves for treating them badly.however, let me say, there is no gujrat in our history. never have been 2000 hindus or chrstains or sikhs been burnt to death in pakistan.

    as for the muslims having no one to blame, i totally agree with you, muslims have a backward mentality. but there is no way that just ther mentality is to be blamed. thats simplifying things, nothing is so simple.

    and again, i see no explanation from anyone on the samjhota express incident. the whole indian media had a field day blamng pakistan and then what? who jumped the gun? who said we have clinching evidence? isnt this the same thing happenng?

    and lastly, gujrat was very sad. but my point is, if indians themselves can do that to gujratis, why not mumbaikars? or, do extremists go for soft targets alone, i.e gujrati muslims?

    P.S the richest man in pakistan is mian mansha, a self made man, a businessman.

    • Posted By: Peekaypee @ 12/14/2008 5:52:59 PM

      very smart eh? Have you seen anger of a nation that has been bombed or citizens shot at 4100 times since 1971. You conveniently hide the fact, the people wont take law into their hands when constantly bombed like this. I dont condone it. also the marriot bombing was caused your own people, that state policy of glorifying martyrdom came back to hurt. neighbouring countries could care less. stop exporting your terror.

      Yes, there has been violence in india. but as any democracy we wash our dirty linen in public and agonize openly.

  • Posted By: Robert1234 @ 12/14/2008 1:34:24 AM

    This is all about putting Musharaff back in power. It won't be long!

  • Posted By: karaswart @ 12/11/2008 6:58:05 AM

    Don't forget that we are approaching December 17th the anniversary of the liberation of Bangladesh, which ended the bengali Muslim genocide. The Pakistani Army calls itself a ' Muslim' Army, but it had no compunction in butchering 3 million Bengali Sunni Muslims. Shias and Ahmediyas are fair game in Pakistan, which is why Iran is anti Pakistan. Please google 'Bangladeshi Genocide 1971' and read whicever links that you trust. The sad part is after claiming the world record for murdering the highest number of Muslims , the Pakistani Army claims Islamic credentials. How can they be Islamic?

  • Posted By: Sultan Ahmed @ 12/05/2008 11:32:28 PM

    After marriot hotel bloodshed,
    there happened many such incident,but little,
    no so big as taken place yesterday,
    in Peshawer,
    in which about 20 innocent people died,
    and many more badely injured,
    as reliable and independent sources said.


    before this,
    in the same area,
    ten trucks, carrying food and other supplies,
    moving toward Afghanistan ,
    were cpatured and elighted by millitant,
    killing other two people.
    no doubt it was tradegic incident.


    Who will didregard this fact,
    Pakistan has lost a good number its cityzen ,
    in the insurgencies,committed by terrorists,
    inside the country.


    Newly elected governmen has nothing done ,
    for the welfare of people,it forgotten all promises,
    made with people during election campaign,
    instead fighting with those called terrorista.


    Millitants killed moreinnocent peole in India,
    and indian government is still blaming on pakistan'involvement,
    notwithstanding the fact,Pakistan is no involve in such heinous act,
    in case , American didn'inter faire there were chances ,
    of war between nuclear power,
    which claimed lacks of people from both sides.


    the questin ,
    automatcally created in mindes,
    who is responsible for the bloody incident,
    has been taken placed in Peshawer recently.


    We should admitt the bear fact that
    there is one enemy of both ,India and Pakistan,
    it is right to say,teh enemy has a strong back,
    so we should be carefull and adopted stratigically best tactic,
    there must be unique unity among us otherwise failure ,
    be come our fortune.


    Sultan Ahmed, Fsd.Pakistan.

  • Posted By: karaswart @ 12/05/2008 5:28:00 PM

    December 3rd to December 14th , 1971 is the time that the Pakistani Army Genocide of the Bangladeshi Muslims came to an end. 3 million Muslims were slaughtered by the Pakistani Army in 1971, historically the biggest genocide of Muslims.

  • Posted By: khasroo29 @ 12/04/2008 12:35:36 AM

    Democracy was never allowed to take its root right from the time Pakistan was created. Autocrats ruled the country for 38 years out 51 years. These autocrats always patronized the terrorists in the name of serving the religion. These autocrats were also being backed by most of the world powers in the name countering Russia and or China. These jealots were trained and armed with modern equipments to fight the Russians in Afganistan. Today we find them becoming frankestine and terrorising the nations and countries. Its high time theGovernments of India, Pakistan and others are serious to handle these renegades. India fighting Pakistan will not bring any good result. The world powers should united and help both the countries to weed out the infrastructure of terrorism. Only that can help.

  • Posted By: lovejusticepeace @ 12/03/2008 4:31:04 AM

    We are completely flabergasted with the cacophany of editors, columnists , correspondents, analysts , security services , sleuths , politicians and the public .
    THE MESSAGE IS SUPPRESSED ,NOT ACKNOWLEDGED .
    THE ONLY SOLUTION IS A FREE AND INDEPENDENT KASHMIR , PALESTINE, TIBET , CHENCHENYA ,KURDISTAN,EELAM,ACEH,BALOCHISTAN,QUEBEC,BASQUE,CHAGOS ARCHIPELAGO,TUTSILAND,SOMALILAND,CABINDA,HAWAII,FALKLAND ISLANDS,GREENLAND ....
    We dont condone the attacks. We weep with the relatives and friends who have lost loved one.

  • Posted By: Sultan Ahmed @ 12/02/2008 7:29:25 PM

    As reported by the globle media,
    a band, consisting on the ten person,
    having sophisticated arms in hands,
    reached by speedboat,and ordered the fishemen to do their business,
    shwing them thamb of gesture gone opposit direction,
    by spliting into small groups.

    It has been further stated that
    fishermen informed the police and authority concerned,
    but it was negligentely overlooked,
    subsequentely,with hour or two carrnage took place,
    in the landmark place and hotels.


    Having read this media reports,
    a common brain come to the conclusion that
    what really happened and who is responsile for that,


    No doubt, the information given by the fishermen ,
    was very important and not liable disregard,
    but what they did?put the same a side and thought not considerable.


    In fact, they are responsible,
    they have no right to remained in the law enforcing agencies ,
    as officials.


    i would like to say herein that
    a remarkable tention has been created,
    between two nuclear power,
    this horrible situation,may take the two countries ,
    destruction in the reason.


    Thanks the United States and the United Kingdom,
    who swfitly took part and clarified condition ,
    from different angles to the Indian leadership,
    and said to pakistani leaders providing full coopration ,
    in the investigation.


    I am fully agreed the view that,
    Indian government has right take sever action ,
    against those accountable to the insurgency,
    which has taken hundred innocent lives,
    and wounded more than two hundred.

  • Posted By: freethinkerror @ 12/02/2008 5:47:58 PM

    natasha: when we say bring on the terrorist, we are not speaking against the Paki people, not against your govt. either. Just against those harbouring these kind of uncivilized thugs in your country. As for Indian Muslims themselves involving - everything is possible, but prima facie evidence is against Pakistan and even if Indian Muslims are involved, they may have got significant training in terror camps in Pakistan

  • Posted By: natasha @ 12/02/2008 3:52:10 PM

    trooper, take a blood pressure pill and relax man.

    wanna bomb pakistan? go ahead, take your shot. seriously, imagine the fireworks when two nuclear armed nations throw their bombs at each other. must be an awesome sight. when the dust settles, there will be no india and no pakistan. keeeewwlll, no?

    so shut up about war already. ever been in one? war isnt a joke.

  • Posted By: shankarreddy @ 11/27/2008 5:59:18 PM

    They talk about discrimination of muslims in India. There are more Muslims Engineers and Doctors made in India than in Pakistan. May be they won't understand how lucky they are untill real discrimination starts. Maybe the reservations and quotas that muslims have in Indian goverment should be removed. Maybe the scores of technical and medical schools specifically for muslims should not be supported by the government any more, may be they should be stopped or blown off. Maybe there should be restrictions against building their mosques, unlike now. May be they shouldn't be allowed to broadcast their prayers early in the morning and disturb the peace like they are allowed now. Maybe their businesses which dominate certain areas in Hyderabad, Mumbai and other cities, should be allowed to run.

    They are among the most disloyal people to their countries. I have had Muslim school mates, neighbors, colleagues for a long time in my life in India. They always seem to have more jubiliation when Pakistan wins a cricket match than India does. They always are fans of pakistani criketers. Maybe they don't understand that freedom. May be they shouldn't have that freedom.

    • Posted By: Impartial ordinary human @ 11/28/2008 12:04:37 AM

      The muslims ruled India from the 7th century till the British came, they treated Indians with justice and dignity or you will not be writing this article.

      • Posted By: emmarcee @ 11/28/2008 1:40:48 PM

        oFCOURSE THE 7TH CENTURY AREA TAKEN BY MUSLIMS IS CALLED --? .. PAKISTAN.
        SHUT UP.

        • Posted By: Trooper101st @ 12/02/2008 9:47:30 AM

          Why don't YOU shut ur mouth EMMARCEE, you pompous azz. Your people respect one thing-VIOLENCE. And it will be a rain of ruin from the air which will either bring you to wat ever sense you have left, or eliminate you for good. HIRABI's must die!!

      • Posted By: emmarcee @ 11/28/2008 1:38:58 PM

        NO THEY DIDN'T .. YOU MUST BE KIDDING. ... ONLY TH EBAD MUSLIM CALLED AKBAR WAS BEYOND THE CONTROLL OF RELIGION. THAT IS WHY HE WAS CALLED AKBER THE GREAT.

    • Posted By: worldwatcher @ 11/27/2008 6:13:37 PM

      Don't generalize all muslims as one category, because of you r own bad experience! Don't for the free India has developed a Abdul Kalam, A Vilayat Khan, A Jakir Hussian and A Sharukh Khan! And majority of muslims even though they don't speak out loud continue to contribute to India. Only a minority of them trying to make their mark in a different way ato nd this minority extremism is there in every religion. Given a chance every one try thrive!

      • Posted By: brownboy @ 11/28/2008 12:15:18 PM

        Really? Muslims treated native-Indians with justice after they invaded? Please cut the bullshit. They kept control over the population by offering a choice of converting to Islam or death. This is the main reason why Buddhism has been virtually wiped out from India. Let us stop pretending that Islam is a religion of peace that is being distorted. Every country with a significant muslim population has problems with them because they refuse to assimilate and actually demand that the country which they emigrated to should bend to their beliefs. That takes a lot of arrogance.

  • Posted By: freethinkerror @ 12/01/2008 1:13:47 PM

    natasha - your comments show your ignorance. What happened in Gujarat was bad. But that does not represent the nationwide situation since 1947. I am a Muslim - the number 1 reason why er are backward is our own revisionist mentality. Truth said! If you are talking about the treatment of minority, look at Pakistan or Bangladesh. During separation, Bangladesh had 30% Hindus - now down to only 12% as a result of persistent persecution by "tolerant Muslims". Situation in Pakiland is no better. In Pakistan even other Muslim sects have been persecuted. As for treatment of minorities in India and Pakistan, I would like to point you to a great article written by Tom Friedman(just google). It says that the richest man in Hindu India is a Muslim entrepreneur. If we ask who is the richest man in Pakistan, he would be one of the feudal chief who had amassed his wealth through correption and bloodshed(well, even in my wildest imagination, I dont think that richest man in Pakistan would be a Hindu or Christian).

    • Posted By: Trooper101st @ 12/02/2008 9:40:24 AM

      It is 2008. NOT 700 AD, or 1060. The moslems still hate the West for the crusades, Pope Urban was a greedy, power hungry man. That time has come and gone. Your lack of progress is your own fault. Islam is DEFINATELY the opium of the people, and it will bring on some kind of cataclysmic event. You started this one, we are gonna end it-when WE say.

  • Posted By: freethinkerror @ 12/01/2008 5:25:55 PM

    natasha - sorry for the last double post. Just want to drop the link to article by Pulitzer prize winning NYTimes journalist Tom Freedman

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A05EEDD1E3AF937A2575BC0A9649C8B63

    • Posted By: natasha @ 12/02/2008 8:02:09 AM

      dear freethnker, no one denies pakistan has a lot of terrorists. but so does the rest of the world. i would call the gujrat incident terrorism, the iraq war was the biggest act of terrorism ever, bombing afghani and pakistani wedding celebrations is terrorism, bali bombing, sharm al shek, madrid...how many of these can be blamed on pakistan?messrs bush, cheny, rumsfeld have cost more lives than has bin laden. terrorism is a world wide phenomenon now.
      again, 67 pakistanis died in samjhota express. pakistan blamed, but indian colonel responsible.i'd be damned if a single pakistani blamed india. it was a few crazy men, no one blamed india.
      if indan muslims are as bad as you say, why wouldnt they do acts of terrorism?
      lastly, i have no misconceptions abt hindus. they are a great people, its a great religion.
      abt to read the article after posting this. thanks for the link.

      • Posted By: Trooper101st @ 12/02/2008 9:32:30 AM

        Well, P-stan has ceded large swaths of territory to the T-ban/AQ...there are over 157 camps in P-stan that we know of, and thier madrossa's are really schools for budding terrorists. They teach hate and intolerance, which puts them on the target list. The roots of this tree lay in Pakistan. You wanna kill the tree? YOU RIP OUT THE ROOTS. Natasha you make good points, but the proof is in the "pudding" as they say. Yes, Iraq was unnecessarry, but the war in A-stan-P-stan is the RIGHT war. You don't "negotiate" with these dogs, you put them down. Pakistan created this monster, and have rogue elements in its ISI and army working hand in hand with them. The moslems crashed those planes into US buildings, and Pakistan is guilty by association.

  • Posted By: Sultan Ahmed @ 12/02/2008 9:29:52 AM

    Documentry evidence,
    circumstancial evidence,
    eyewitnesses's statesments
    and other relevant meterial on record
    is indispensable for proving the allegation
    if leveled by particular quarter
    against any any one,
    but they presented nothing,
    and declared pakistani involvement
    in the brazen attack.


    When we consider the previous history,
    we find ourself on different stages
    where indians looks in hurry imposing allegations,
    which afterward proved baseless,
    it is a result of rivalery,trational enmity
    that is based on hypocracy.


    At the time of naming Pakistan,
    they fogot all, happened in pakistan ,
    in the near past,
    such as marriot hotel incident,
    Lahore, Karachi and other cities
    has still been facing insurgency.


    There is tradgic incident happened recently
    in Peshawer,in which ten trucks ,laden with food and
    other meterial set on fire by terrorists.


    According to reliable and independent sources,
    an orgnisation named Deccan has accepted responsibility
    of the attacks,
    in the presence od such confession there is no justification
    of accusation on others.


    The fact is that we must admitte our mistakes,
    done in different mattters,
    there is no justice,
    there is no peace,
    Struggle of Kashmiries has extended on decads,
    but they are still deprived of their just rights,
    attrocities is going on against them,so feedback is natural response.

  • Posted By: Save the World @ 12/02/2008 8:48:05 AM

    If the terrorist can instill fear and fear leads to hatred and hatred leads to a war; the terrorist have been most successful in their operation. Do we want them to win? Or can we rise above this confusion and do some investigation. First it is necessary to establish who these terrorists are. Who backed them? Who provided them the resources? How come they just drove straight to the hotels and new exactly where to find what? How come they had no specific demands? What does their dialect reveal about their origins? Why were the terrorists wearing orange bands on their wrists? If the media says the one terrorist captured is from Faridkot; then which Faridkot is the one; the one in Pakistan or the one in India? What was the objective behind the hostage taking? If it was to release their people in prisons then why did they not negotiate for their release? They probably achieved what they wanted to achieve just by their act??????creating terror, uncertainty, mistrust, instability???...and hatred. So are we letting them achieve what they set out to achieve? Or do we have sense to see beyond the smokescreen and defeat the terrorist and their backers in their own game.
    Anyway, terrorists of any country or religion are the worst type of human beings. We should be wise enough by now to know that whichever religion the terrorist belong to or whichever country they are from they are tool in the power/wealth game that some unscrupulous people are engaged in. It is greed and avarice that is driving some people crazy; religion is just a tool. It is a tool well suited for their purpose; as religion is a domain where sentiments can run very high. Secondly, people who are looking for candidates for terrorism find them among people in desperate conditions; they can be Muslims, Christians or Hindus; religion does not matter. Citizens of the world need to get united and overcome their negative feelings for each other. If we let hatred get hold of our hearts then we are helping the terrorist to win. We must overcome fear and uncertainty and develop trust in each other. This is the challenge for the citizens of the 21st century.

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