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  • Posted By: sana iftikhar @ 11/29/2008 6:50:38 PM

    MAY GOD GIVE EVERYONE PEACE AND THE SENSE TO THINK MORE CLEARLY.

    • Posted By: karaswart @ 12/15/2008 10:42:05 AM

      Sana- check out www.timesonline.co.uk. The Pakistani General Alavi was murdered by the Pakistani Army for threatening to expose their terrorist links. Such is the nature of the beast- the same beast that consumed 3 million Bengali Muslims in 1970-1971.

  • Posted By: CW_Almeida @ 11/28/2008 11:20:18 PM

    I am a Christian Indian-American and proud to be from a country which has had such a long history. Note the past tense. One of the main reasons for my leaving India 34 years ago was the rapid deterioration of the secular nature of Indian Democracy with fragmentation of the nation based on regional and ethnic identities. India ahs always had numerous kingdoms, almost always at war with each other with so many different languages, religions and other centrifugal forces. With independence in 1947, the founding fathers envisioned a united country but in their idealism, they neglected to consider that the unity of the country was based entirely on their hatred of the British. The country fell apart into Pakistan and India with India having a secular constitution and pakistan with a religious constitution. Therein lies the problem and unless the central government with all the regional and nationalist political parties reaching a consensus on reuniting India based on the ORIGINAL CONSTITUTION, the vulnerabilty of India as a nation against terrorist groups will only increase.

    I disagree with Mr. Sahni that it is only the broad categories of Hindu, Muslim and Christians are the main terrorist groups. Ther has been will continue to be terrorism in India due to internal conflicts as well as from external sources. Do not forget the bigger picture of Pakistan and India having been actually one nation united only as one nation no more than 3 or 4 times in the past 1000 years. The tendency of over-simplication of these conflicts as simply religious or ideological is, in my poor opinion, analogous to an ostrich burying its head in the sand.

    • Posted By: karaswart @ 12/15/2008 10:39:30 AM

      Trust you are doing well in GW's country CW. India has never had a record of waging imperialistic wars. Frankly, China also has no record. Both India and China have been aggressed against right through their history.

  • Posted By: masoodfarooqui @ 11/29/2008 2:56:12 AM

    Pointing all fingers toward Pakistan is unfair. This whole event is suspicious, as in the first wave of attack to brave anti-terrorist official got killed, things start happening from Railway Stations, Ships carrying huge number of terrorist sails from Karachi to Mumbai almost 1000 km unchecked. There is some thing wrong in this particular state where human life means nothing the present ruling party to gain political sympathy.

    • Posted By: karaswart @ 12/15/2008 10:35:06 AM

      But Dawn confirmed meeting the parents of the terrorist caught alive. Dawn is a respected Pakistani Newspaper. So did the Islamabad based reporter of the British Newspaper ' The Observer' ( essentially ' The Guardian' on Sunday). Plus why should the Pakistani Army and the ISI, which had no compunctions about butchering 3 million Bengali Muslims have a problem in conducting terrorist activities? And the very same Bengali Muslims, at that time, were their co religionists and their countrymen?

  • Posted By: lakshmirlm @ 12/10/2008 10:20:39 AM

    why humans killing humans? did they want to kill this entire world without thinking !pls dont be cruel .... y these terrorists attacking india? pls be humans,,,dont be wild!

    • Posted By: karaswart @ 12/15/2008 10:31:39 AM

      Don't forget that the Pakistani Army butchered 3 million Bengali Muslims in 1970-1971. Killing Shias, Ahmediyas and other minority Muslims is a blood sport in Pakistan.

  • Posted By: amcom32 @ 11/29/2008 6:24:34 AM

    Joke...
    One day Indian Prime Minister Manmohan SINGH had a bad stomach. Doctor suggested that there was something wrong with his breakfast. The next moment India???s external affairs minister Pranab Mukherjee called a press conference claiming ISI mixed something in Prime Minister???s breakfast. This is an example of Indians hysterical attitude against Pakistan.

    • Posted By: karaswart @ 12/15/2008 10:30:10 AM

      A journalist from Dawn confirmed meeting the captured terrorists father. That was printed after the respected Observer printed it. Please remember, that Dr. Manmohan Singh, an Adam Smith scholar from Cambridge is as clean as he is humble.Please don;t confuse him with Mr. 10% or the Pakistani Army Generals ( aka ' The Butchers of Bangladesh').

  • Posted By: Tan Boon Tee @ 12/01/2008 1:40:18 AM

    Here a terrorist, there a terrorist, everywhere has a terrorist.

    What has shocked the world in the Mumbai attack was not so much of the casualties (nearly 200 deaths), but the tactic used that resembles urban guerilla war-fare. Indian government seems to have caught by surprise, even though there had been unconfirmed information of the assault a week before the incidents.

    There is no point of pointing fingers. This is not India???s problem alone, for it has become a global issue. Such inhuman and heinous crime could happen anywhere, anytime, and to anyone. The UN should spearhead a concerted effort to eradicate terrorism resolutely -- never mind how much it costs, never mind how long it takes.

    What has the world degraded to? Have we not already had enough of on-going conflicts and wars?
    (Tan Boon Tee)

  • Posted By: sana iftikhar @ 11/28/2008 9:16:45 PM

    I deeply resent the fact that when anything happens in india , it has to be a pakistani .. if not then has to be muslims! the mariott in islamabad was under attack a few months ago .. mayeb its wise to say that india was responsible. ! BULL *** ! being a pakistani ive never had an ill intention abt the indian public ! i speak for the majority of the youth in pakistan. I condemn the fact that it always has to be pakistan. we have problems of our own. we're dealing with an idiot president ruling the country and a are hampered by the incompetent judiciary that is running the country. and then something like this comes along. very mature i say .. lets do this more often and make it a ritual ... water drainage problem .. YEH PAKISTANI DID IT .. the window just broke ..BLAME PAKISTAN! grow out of this impression if you want to live in a civil global society!
    an idiot american made the wrong decision to go into afghanistan and then iraq ... let's blame everything that happens in pakistan on an american/ christian !
    GROW UP !

    • Posted By: sachin @ 11/28/2008 9:53:55 PM

      As an Indian i do agree with you to some extent. But the problem is not always with Pakistan but an inner circle within Pakistan (elements of the ISI) that even pakistan does not know what they are doing. While you would think that here we go again with another indian bashing the ISI, even the government of pakistan has admitted this. So while the government of india is wrong in always placing the blame to pakistan, there are rouge factors at play that even pakistan does not have control over.

      • Posted By: sana iftikhar @ 11/29/2008 6:57:17 PM

        and i agree with you sachin ... but here'd the thing .. when you're living away from your country it becomes frustrating. i doubt that you understand the mental stress that comments like comments published cause to someone. i've been living in toronto for the past 2 years now and i know how pakistanis and indians alike start to feel unsafe. it's almost like we're being judged. having known so many indians i know that our hearts and minds are in the right place but it just really needs to stop ! look at the comments posted on this forum only ... people can't tolerate point of views. ' MUSLIMS EAT AND *** IN THE SAME PLATE' what is that all about ! it's not very mature ! dont you agree !

      • Posted By: amcom32 @ 11/29/2008 6:11:52 AM

        Once again the media fed version is quite vocal these days..every thing is dropped in the basket of ISI..I can see in future india will also blame ISI for any natural disaster..lol

  • Posted By: sana iftikhar @ 11/28/2008 9:17:16 PM

    I deeply resent the fact that when anything happens in india , it has to be a pakistani .. if not then has to be muslims! the mariott in islamabad was under attack a few months ago .. mayeb its wise to say that india was responsible. ! BULL *** ! being a pakistani ive never had an ill intention abt the indian public ! i speak for the majority of the youth in pakistan. I condemn the fact that it always has to be pakistan. we have problems of our own. we're dealing with an idiot president ruling the country and a are hampered by the incompetent judiciary that is running the country. and then something like this comes along. very mature i say .. lets do this more often and make it a ritual ... water drainage problem .. YEH PAKISTANI DID IT .. the window just broke ..BLAME PAKISTAN! grow out of this impression if you want to live in a civil global society!
    an idiot american made the wrong decision to go into afghanistan and then iraq ... let's blame everything that happens in pakistan on an american/ christian !
    GROW UP !

    • Posted By: HOMIRUSTOM @ 11/29/2008 8:50:48 AM

      No one will agree with you the mariott attack was by a muslim you see from fotos of the terrorist and the mumbai attack is all by muslims may be a few Indians but Indian muslim if you want proof go cheak their DICKS. History can prove it you muslims who have converted Hindus and Persians in muslims. It you muslims who are living on Jewesh Persian and Hindu land and ever day you muslims want more. You muslims produce and multiply like rabbites and spread your Devilesh religon. So sana iftikhar read your history or go back to school.The Amercians should know by how ungratefull you muslims when the Russian entered Afghanistan you Pakistanies and Afghanies begged for American help how did the muslims pay back with 9 / 11 attack. YOU MUSLIMS EAT AND SH*T IN SAME PLATE.

      • Posted By: sana iftikhar @ 11/29/2008 6:52:17 PM

        you seem to have the tolerance of a 5 year old dear ! please grow up

      • Posted By: sana iftikhar @ 11/29/2008 6:43:19 PM

        VERY MATURE HOMIRUSTOM!

    • Posted By: mrghanta @ 11/28/2008 10:10:47 PM

      100%of world terrorists are made in Pakistan. Pakistan has flourishing manufacturing of terrorists. Almost all the world conflicts involve muslims. Muslims in India enjoy more freedom, power and education than any other muslim nation. Get real. If you are in U.S making anti U.S comments you should go back to your sacred Pakistan. Get real.
      God bless India and United states.

  • Posted By: sana iftikhar @ 11/29/2008 6:47:55 PM

    MAY GOD GIVE THE EVERYONE PEACE AND THE SENSE TO THINK MORE CLEARLY.

  • Posted By: pershing @ 11/28/2008 10:22:02 PM

    If it is true that Pakistan intelligence trained these criminals then why is the US training Pakistan......I suggest that all killed Moslem terrorist be buried with dead pigs after it is a religious war and we should stop foolling ourselves.

    • Posted By: HOMIRUSTOM @ 11/29/2008 8:20:36 AM

      I 100% agree with you pershing Islamic terrorists should buried with pigs. Rap them in pig skin and bury them and show this on all television chanels the next muslim terrorist will think twice.

  • Posted By: masoodfarooqui @ 11/29/2008 2:55:50 AM

    Pointing all fingers toward Pakistan is unfair. This whole event is suspicious, as in the first wave of attack to brave anti-terrorist official got killed, things start happening from Railway Stations, Ships carrying huge number of terrorist sails from Karachi to Mumbai almost 1000 km unchecked. There is some thing wrong in this particular state where human life means nothing the present ruling party to gain political sympathy.

  • Posted By: Tobucks @ 11/29/2008 2:46:31 AM

    There are several things I find wrong or in error concerning this report in my opinion.

    First of all, we seem to have many very hungry media services making an attempt to create award winning show business out of this matter, an important benefit to the bad guys involved, for that???s one of their priorities I would assume.

    I also notice reference to a local counter terrorism expert being involved? Give me a break, there is no such thing as a local counter terrorism expert, again in my opinion.

    Lastly, there must have been a good deal of planning on the part of the bad guys involved. Our investigative services need to make every effort possible to backtrack as well as possible to determine who, when, where, how, and why this has happened. If there are others involved, they should be brought to justice.

  • Posted By: nitinsg @ 11/29/2008 1:58:38 AM

    it was not question of attack, its mindset of people to do this kind of attacks. India is peaceful country with different faiths in life style and now going to be economic power of the world with social security. We need to travel to the mindset of these people those who are involved in these attacks. There is nothing which can shake the great nation india. In future we will be more careful and win these attempt of coward people

  • Posted By: jadeja9 @ 11/28/2008 11:57:59 PM

    This man says he is an expert for this subject!! Then what he is doing now? Either he help the officials in this situations or keep silence

  • Posted By: Igloo @ 11/28/2008 11:42:39 PM

    Animals kill for a reason. Some humans are worse than animals. Those (what are they?) are the ones who committed the carnage this week.They did not have a reason. They can come up with all the excuse in the world but those are not reasons. They were just plain evil, blood thirsty monsters that showed up on the shores of Mumbai.

  • Posted By: Observe3000 @ 11/28/2008 11:33:49 PM

    This guy says he is an Indian anti-terrorism expert and then criticizes his own country. So what he thinks is his job after all? Talking & giving interviews? I am an American who witnessed most of 9/11 on my way to work in Manhattan, including hapless fellow citizens falling to their death, with no dearth of experts. May be this guy should realize that his Gandhi said CHANGE starts with Indians like him. Not with expert interviews.

  • Posted By: gadjo @ 11/28/2008 11:18:09 PM

    It seems that the terrorists targeted the right people for a change. Many of the most serious people as well as average citizens in many places of this multiplicitous society say that all the different ethnic, religious, and language groups got along for centuries until British colonialization. It was easier to pit one group against another instead of allowing them to fight together against the colonial power. So most of the world sees this as more evil Islamic terrorism when the issues in India are not quite the same. The Hindus, Sikhs, and Muslims all contributed to the slaughter of over a million when India became free from colonial power and Pakistan became a separate state. And the fallout of that strife still goes on in a major way every day all over India. It's not that this terrorist attack is so unique, but that it is one of many that occur all over the country in recent years. And the Muslims have every reason to continue the strife because they have in some ways taken over from the Untouchables as the bottom caste. Though the old habits still hold on, especially in rural areas. And don't forget that in many ways the Muslims could take a lesson in degrading women from the Hindus and Sikhs. That's why Hindu films almost always have some subplot about the heroism and fight by women in their society to uproot the traditions that the world would heap scorn upon if they became better known. And as the others have hinted at, don't forget that there is very little real law in the entire country because the police are corrupt and have a symbiotic relationship with organized crime which is everywhere, including Bollywood as most Indians know. The famous actor Sanjay Dutt served two years in prison for his part in the rebellions in 1993 -- housing AK47s and other automatic weapons for the battles in the street.

  • Posted By: temasik @ 11/28/2008 10:45:10 PM

    It's sad to hear and see the world degenerate into such a mess with the innocent getting killed not only in Mumbai but many others places in Africa, Iraq, etc. . It's about time the world leaders think about "soft approach" to tackle this issue of disenchanted and dissatisfied people.
    Good example is the Palestinians -- an issue which have gone through more than five decades. Look at the ordinary Indians, Bangladeshees, Sri Lankans, Chinese, Burmese, and lots of other nationalities leaving their families and homes to seek work as construction workers, domestics help, etc.
    Those in authorities, please put the houses in order and give these poor souls a dignity to live in this world.
    I know power corrupts -- be in the so called civilised countries, the developing countries and third world. But the least they could do is to share some of the cake with the less fortunate. Presiden-elct, Borrack Obama said it in the true spirit of a good leader -- there must be change, and Change we can.

  • Posted By: tboy @ 11/28/2008 10:28:07 PM

    When i read the comments posted, i smile, so many naive ppl. Anyway i dont want to offend anyone. But whatever happened is bad, i whish ppl would use other means to put their issues to limelight. I really really feel sad for the 2 year old jew kid that got his parents killed, i mean what did he ever do to deserve this? Now as it appears the indians were not ready for this scenario, but then again who is? i dont think there are that many police or securityforces around the world sitting in their cars waiting for a bunch of lunatics to hit hotels etc. Anywhere it would take some time to mount a response. And let the the israelis come into india for a commandoraid, i doubt that would look good for the indians image?
    India is not a democracy in the word that we in the west indentify democracy with. In India they sell and buy governments, simple as that. Its dirty money all the way, and then the have theatre every 4 or 5th year called elections. I mean there are a lot of laws etc on paper, but thats where they remain in india. Why do you think people with some education run off to abroad? So India being the worlds biggest democracy, dont fall for that one, its just a fairytale. A survey by Singhs government abt muslims in india showed that they were least successfull ppl of india no matter which field, so they have community of 150 million+ muslims at the bottom of the social ladder, what can they possibly loose? Muslims arent allowed to live in certain buildings or areas, nice.and it goes on and on. And then some one wrote abt removing the policechief in Bombay because his a muslim, i got a better idea, lets just put him on a boat and see where he ends up. Now how can Bombays top cops afford hanging out at 5star hotels daily? corruption? Just wondering.
    I see Kashmir is also mentioned, Kashmir is a different topic alltogether, pakistan was created with a single thought in mind, muslims not being second class citizens in their own country, and religious freedom. Islamic ppl didnt want pakistan, since they were afraid of loosing their grip on ppl. So areas were divided according to religious concentrations, and according to that Kashmir is pakistani, democratically, simple as that. No maharaja that one in India would even respect should have gotten the final say. So obviously a conflict happened and is still going on.
    This article is just another one in the line of many to come yet about experts saying whatever crap they have to offer abt terrorism, links etc. I just hope something good will come out of this tragedy, and severe punishment for those behind this

  • Posted By: pershing @ 11/28/2008 10:22:46 PM

    all dead Moslem terrorist should and must be buried with a dead pig!

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