Nazis and the Movies

How does a movie about an assassination attempt on hitler qualify as a jewish holocaust movie? is every ww2 movie about the holocaust? does anyone here know that the germans also killed over 40 million russians, the majority of whom were civilians? the germans also targeted others for extinction such as the jehovahs witnesses and the gypsies. in fact, a much greater percentage of the gypsie population was murdered than the jewish population. the germans performed unspeakable medical experiments on nearly 4000 sets of gypsy twins, only a few of which survived. where are all the movies about them?

"Valkyrie" is a Holocaust film. It is a film about a plot to assassinate Adolf Hitler. The author also suggests that Holocaust films are prime candidate for Oscars. I wish she would elaborate on this. Why aren't there more movies on all the Russians that Stalin killed or sent to the gulags, on all the Chinese slaughtered by the Japanese in the thirties, or more movies on the killing fields in Cambodia? These are all holocausts. Why aren't these movies as worthy of Oscars? It is perhaps because of the Hollywood establishment? Horrible things happened to everyone during this century.

I have not seen the film yet but I am planning on doing so during my Christmas vacation. I love Tom Cruise, excellent actor! I'm glad he portrays a good German. Im sure they were many German officers who had no choice but to follow the orders they were given. My grandmother who was a young newly married Italian mother during WWII, lived through the Nazi's invasion of my birth town. She watched her two teenage brothers being tortured and later shot for hiding two American GI's. My grandmother told me many stories of what happened to our family and the residents of the town during that period. One was about my grandfather having killed a German officer in their home. My grandparents were gentle people who regretted having to be forced to do this, they hated having to hurt anyone even to save themselves. My grandmother once told me that every human being was the son of a mother and the German officer my grandfather killed was the son of a mother too. Another story was about how there was no food for anyone in the town, the Germans took everything including their food. What a horrific time WWII was. Terrible memories of fear, suffering, and death.

The holocaust hoax is anti-German racism gone wild. Essentially, the ???holocaust??? never happened because no one was ever killed in gas chambers, or made into soap or lampshades by the Nazis, and there was NO program to physically exterminate all the Jews of Europe or the world. As to mass murder or ???mass extermination??? by other means such as mass shootings, all Americans and Brits should look at themselves in the mirror.

The ???real??? mass murderers and the ultimate genocidal maniacs were, and still are, the United States and Britain. During World War 2, the US and Britain deliberately murdered well over a million totally innocent civilians, mostly women and children, by deliberately ???roasting??? them to death (Curtis LeMay loved that terminology) with massive, incendiary air attacks. America even used napalm???and eventually nuclear weapons as well to deliberately ???roast??? women and children to death. Mass gassings by the Nazis, those mythical crimes, would have been humane and merciful compared to what the US and Britain actually did and about which there is no dispute. Contrary to widely-held but false belief, it was the British who had begun the cowardly air war against civilians, not Germany, in 1940???with encouragement from the US even though the US was technically still neutral. In spite of having the largest empire in human history and the support of the United States with its nearly total domination of the entire western hemisphere and vast human and material resources, the mass murder of Axis civilians was widely recognized and accepted as an essential part of Allied strategy because Allied ground forces were simply no match for the brilliance and prowess of the small German army and its allies. But instead of even trying to make peace, the Allies resorted to terror. The Allied demand was for total ???unconditional surrender.??? Terrorism is firmly embedded in American and British modern military performance and that, in turn, makes the current furor about al-Qaida atrocities laughable. America and Britain have simply been given a small taste of their own medicine.

Friedrich Paul Berg

The Holocaust is horrible but it's nothing. 20 million Rusians died in ww2 alone and another 20 million during the Stalin years after ww2. Around 12 million Chinese died during Mao's Great Leap Forward. Genocides in Africa (Darfur, Hutus & Tutsis) around 10 million. Where are the movies regarding this stuff? People just don't wake up one day and decide to hate and kill jews for no reason, where are the explanantions of why throughout history they have been persecuted? People need to stop focusing on little instances in history and try to understand the bigger picture.

The questions at the end of this article must be simply rhetorical. Jews around the world struggle to keep this in all peoples' minds not because it happened to 6 million jew, as well as millions other, but to remind everyone that it may well happen again, maybe to other groups of people, if the world allows this to happen. During WWII the US Government knew about the extermination camps, yet did nothing for so long. In Iraq this happened under Saddam prior to our liberation of the Country, noe it is happening in Darfur. The world just sits back and watches. Where is the UN? This corrupt group of third world leaders sits back and counts their ill-gotten gains while people suffer. The equivilent of the Holocaust can happen again, when we let it.

The Germans behaved no better or worse than other countries at war (including the US). The ???Holocaust??? is largely residual war propaganda that Jews have perpetuated and embellished as an excuse to elicit sympathy, extort money, and engage in Zionistic genocide in Palestine. Jewish propaganda influences in the US movie market purposely attempt to perpetuate the Jewish special interests. Those interests are often immoral or not in Americas best interest.

The Hoax of the Twentieth Century by Butz describes it well.
http://www.amazon.com/Hoax-Twentieth-Century-Extermination-Holocaust/dp/0967985692/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228143040&sr=8-1

There seem to be a few conspiracy theory obsessed backwoods Nazi types on this site (obviously internet works well in Idaho now). Congratulations on learning to read (and type too!) boys. Now if you could just open up a proper history book - as opposed to the revisionist bile you have been indulging in - you may actually evolve to be a decent member of society.

"the 20th century's most unimaginable atrocity."

No wonder the Holocaust staggers the imagination - it never happened!

Don't believe me? Check it out for yourself; there is plenty of Revisionist history on the web, as well as books available to order (don't expect mainstream publishers to carry them). You can make up your own mind after doing your own research.

Why should you bother? Start with the poor old "war criminals" in their 80s who are still being dragged off for deportation and trial. Add to that the injustice of framing a whole country for a mass murder that never happened, and extorting billions of dollars pin the name of the ???reparations??? paid by Germany to finance the fraudulently founded State of Israel all these years. And the murderous behavior of the Israelis (most of them themselves victims of the ???Holocaust??? fraud) toward the innocent Palestinians?

Meanwhile you and your children are being brainwashed in their schools, on TV, and in movies such as these, to ensure that yet more billions will be paid out and yet more murderous behavior will be tolerated, on the basis of a total lie.

If you are a lover of peace and justice, I urge you to find out the truth about this important piece of history. Justice can only be based on truth, and lasting peace can only be based on justice ??? not enforced through eternal moral blackmail based on a lie.

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''There is something tragic about the German people,which is so estimable in the individual,and so wretched in the generality''


Goethe

It is painfully obvious that the main appeal of making holocaust movies is the Jewish element. If there were no Jews involved hollywood would have little interest in making these movies. There have been a great many genocides on earth since WWII but it is rare that people even bother to discuss them let alone make a film about them. The theme of "Never Again" is ridiculous in the face of indifference to the suffering of non western peoples or maybe more specifically jews. Jews themselves are not being helped by media biase in there favor, instead it feeds into the stereotypes of conspiracies and assumptions of undo media influence. Jewish people ought be more concious of the "Holocaust Industry" and how it's success breeds resentment in the face of other peoples present and past suffering being ignored.

At present the suffering of the Palistinians being kept in ghettos as the Jews were in WWII only adds insult to injury. To not bring these things up in an article about the holocaust is to ignore one of the most blatant acts of hypocrisy in the world today. To escape bigotry only to travel to another land to inflict bigotry and violence on another people is not uncommon in human history. In 2008 humanity has grown to see the evils of colonial oppression and it should be condemned by all as a crime against humanity itself.

I strongly suggest people go to the site HonestMediaTodayDOTCom and watch the free documentaries on there. They tell the real story that is not allowed to be told today. Many of the facts surrounding the Holocaust are ignored or called "anti-semitic". This is ridiculous when you take into account that Israelis are the most racist people in the world. THey are the only country to still have actual laws that make non-jews and Ethopian and Sephardic jews 2nd class citizens. After all, it was the Jewish community that declared war on Germany in 1933. This was almost a decade before any jew lost even a hair on his head. All across America, you could not find one German product. In fact, at one department store, a customer found some German stockings and the store was boycotted and fined. Do yourself a favor and learn all the facts. Go to the website...

Pro-Nazi Collaboration by Elie Wiesel and hundreds of thousands of Jews

Although Elie WIESEL is today the poster-boy of the ???Holocaust,??? he clearly ???chose??? to collaborate with the Nazis in January 1945 rather than be ???liberated??? by Soviet troops advancing on Auschwitz. Both he and his father trekked west with the Nazis in a terrible winter on foot by their own choice and assisted the Nazis during the last months of the war. The Jews on ???Schindler's List,??? just thirty miles to the east of Auschwitz, also chose to collaborate and went west eagerly also rather than hang back, or hide, or go east to be ???liberated??? by the Soviets. Their last months of the war were spent in what is now the Czech Republic making ammunition (all supposedly ???defective and useless??? by their postwar accounts) for the Nazis until they were ???liberated??? by Soviet troops in May of 1945. Of course, they could have been ???liberated??? six months earlier and put to work making ammunition for the Allies???but they had all chosen to collaborate with the Nazis instead.

If Oskar Schindler had really been a clever saviour of his jewish workers, he could have simply found any number of places for his favorite Jews (the chosen among the chosen ones) to hide from the SS for a few days until Soviet troops arrived and "liberated" them all. That's what happened, after all, to the Jews who were NOT on Schindler's List. Is there any doubt about that? And those "liberated" Jews did not have to fear Auschwitz or any other horrors at the hands of the Nazis once they were "liberated" by the Soviets---right!! Well, isn't it rather obvious than no one in his right mind wanted to be "liberated" by the Soviets. That's the dirty little secret that is buried in Spielberg's typically jewish travesty.

If there had actually been a "holocaust," how could there possibly be so many Bernie Madoff-like characters running around out there? Let's see now, Myron Fagan, Marc Dreier, Saul Israel III, Marc Rich... and the long list just goes on, and on, and on with no end in sight In 2003 Sergio DellaPergola, an Israeli demographer, admitted in an official report for the Israeli government that there were 1,092,000 Jewish "holocaust survivors" still alive in the world, in 2003--which means that there must have been at well over 5 million alive at the end of WW2. Elie Wiesel had actually been a pro-Nazi collaborator from January 1945 until the end of the war--but, Elie nonetheless cashed-in on his wartime experiences to get himself a Nobel Peace Prize. There is a pattern there, folks.