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  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/17/2008 11:14:33 AM

    Ha I see you have studied marketing at the undergraduate level as well - too bad the argument was about innovation not production. Its not the highest price possible, Wal-mart will sell the same products as Target, Best Buy etc but cheaper (if your willing to put up with the store atmosphere and rather lower class crowds) and JIT actually falls under accounting studies not marketing...
    And people all over the world buy chinese knock-offs not just Americans
    Feel like bailing your buddy genius out, he seems to be in over his head? (per my previous post about media)

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/17/2008 1:53:58 PM

      The argument was about production (i.e. "adjoined value", not only process innovation and technologycal applications on it) . What is the "adjoined value" of any stuff sold by Wall mart, from the time it is purchased in China to the time it is sold and leaves he shelf ? Only the purchasing price is different from the selling price . And that is fair: profit is not the devil . mBut "adjoined value" is quite another thing (where the result is more tthan the sum of the stuffs used to make it...)...

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/15/2008 11:58:05 AM

    Wall Mart is the biggest US company, as far as I know . What do they "produce" ? They just import cheap things (mpstly from China) and sell it at the higest possible price . What has "production" (adjoined value, technologies, innovation...) go to do with it ?

    -another example of how little you know - Walmart imports and re-sells items yes, however (and this is coming from someone who doesnt even like wal-mart) they revolutionized inventory management and used data to order inventory like no other company in history, hence their success at Just-In -Time style retail. They sell it at the highest price possible? Really? WOw last I checked they were cheapest everywhere including their chains in England and other countries. Do your homework

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/17/2008 10:46:11 AM

      they revolutionized inventory management and used data to order inventory like no other company in history, hence their success at Just-In -Time style retail

      This is good marketing (fourth p, "placement"), not production...

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/17/2008 10:28:21 AM

      They sell it at the highest price possible?
      -
      I mean the highest price COMMERCIALLY possible . You cannot sell cheap chines gimicks like Gucci bags or Ptrada dresses, that's a fact (unless you think that american people are totally gone banana) . Got it ?

  • Posted By: The genius @ 12/16/2008 12:35:22 PM

    There are many suspicions around 9/11. However investigations it is impossible. It block. I know, that Clinton trousers and Monica mouth in detail investigated and have opened the truth. And the tragedy 9/11 cannot be completely investigated, because there everyone hide special services. Who can is afraid of the truth? Be consecutive in democracy! In any case be vigilant and investigate, who subordinates you from above. It is still possible, but any more always. Oppositional journalists already write, that for mobilization and derivations of American people from problems and deterioration of a life will be and to create further certain terrorist and military theatrical facts. It is a lot of, a lot of a secret manipulation to the USA, but people of America it for some reason suffers. Probably propagation is strong. It is visible from the outside. And inside of America it there should be great fighters for the truth to understand and expose. It is difficult and in forces only to some people. Putin wanted in NATO, wanted the strategic block together with the USA, but Bush has deceived it. All has been rejected. Demanded, that Russia should make that, to make it, to make one thousand certificates of submission. Russian have not surrendered to huge armies of Napoleon and Hitler, and here we should in all will obey to the USA. Simply that want it Bush and the American elite, want simply a deceit and cheaply to subordinate the huge country. No, it will not be. We shall be free and independent.
    I here am amazed, how so it is possible to deceive. In fact the Georgian armies have attacked after the order from Washington. And when hundreds Russian citizens have been killed, Russian army has interfered to rescue survived. There are even citizens of the USA who have suffered from the Georgian which too bombed. In America, certainly, hide, that the American command developed plans of war in Ossetia, 500 military teachers trained the Georgian. Actually, it was an attack of Americans, only hands the Georgian. You saw women with the chopped off heads? Corpses of Russian citizens on all city and on all road to Ossetias. Special hunting of the Georgian chastisers was for women of genital age. Them wished all to destroy, that any more did not give birth to ossetic children. And the USA have taken these fascists and chastisers. Have turned the facts on TV, did a photomontage and it showed on all Western world. This blasphemy. How the American journalists can show chastisers and speak that they are kind children, is friends to the USA? Russia here such bad when protected the survived peace people. It is such deceit and barbarity of the American journalists, that I dont know, when Russian will forget it. One business, when dispute in economy, civilizations, and another when justify crimes and a genocide.
    It is necessary to you to speak the truth. Probably someone in America will hear. The belief in democracy in the USA still is, but it more lesser and less.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/16/2008 10:11:35 AM

    http://larussophobe.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/special-extra-the-russian-stock-market-in-freefall/
    your own people my friend !

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/16/2008 9:56:48 AM

    Deutsche Bank has lowered its forecast
    for Russian GDP growth in 2009 to 1% from 3.4%, the bank said in a
    report. - Interfax
    Deutsche Bank analysts also lowered their forecast for the ruble's
    exchange rate against the U.S. dollar to 31.8 rubles/$1 at the end of
    2009 from 26.9 rubles/$1. - Interfax

    Obviously US and world growth is contracting next yr so it is pointless to argue over this, if we are talking long-term here Ill direct you to my previous posts from last friday regarding the Global 2000 and US prevelence in the world compared to Russian - Although there isnt much of an argument is there?

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/16/2008 9:43:55 AM

    Yes I am aware of the 9/11 conspiracy and have investigated it on my own thank you. The simple fact of the matter is that too many people would have had to been invovled to pull something like that off, it just isnt possible. Terrorists attack buildings and hijack planes all the time so what makes it so implausable that they would attack the USA? Its is just a simple explanation for the people like you to assume that the US gov. killed its own people in order to create opportunites abroad, there are a lot of conspiracies my friend; JFK, Alien landings, etc I am afraid that most of them are idealistic garbage.I dont trust Bush at all, in fact I hate the guy and voted against him twice, but simply because I dont think 9/11 was a plot by the US government doesnt mean that I like Bush. Americans are not as black and white as you may think. The American government didnt need to distract us with 9/11, if you did some research you would see that the 1990's was one of the most prosperous decades ever for Americans - people were living good already. What about you? Is it possible that Putin's constant bitching about the USA and reaction agasint Georgia (to boost russian nationalism) is a distraction from Russia's bubble oil economy? Why dont you ask yourself the same questions you ask Americans?

    80% of Russian citizens have lived better -HA prove it. Here is a fact for you - since 2000 the gap between rich and poor in Russia has increased 16%. Russian media is all state sponsered, dont you think that may have an effect on your views? Once again Genuis where is your proof!!! you are just regurgitating what your media tells you - we support drug mafia in Russia are you crazy where do you get this from? I am glad that you love your country and are positive about the future but Russia has been positive in the past - to less than good results. Instead of looking at your own corrupt government you blame all your problems on America its so typical and sad.

  • Posted By: The genius @ 12/16/2008 9:27:53 AM

    Growth of pensions in 2009 in Russia will be 37 %.
    The forecast of growth of gross national product in 2009 in Russia of 3 %.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/16/2008 6:56:20 AM

    Are you Russians incapable of thinking outside the box?? About 16 Russians got rich during the commodities boom and you elect Putin supreme ruler with no checks or balances at all! Then it all comes crashing down, rusty military, downgraded debt ratings, plunging currency and reserves. Plus you think that Eastern Europe is going to reject NATO and embrace Russia as some estrnaged but beloved mother? ha... dillusion!! France pressured you to pull out of Georgia, you obliged then they sh*t on your face by expressing that they want to join NATO again! In a desperate attempt to make friends you agree to cut oil production in line with OPEC! That is not going to sit well with your friends in eastern or western europe, but you have no choice as the entire Russian economy is soley dependent on oil revenue, so 33% of the population is on less than $1000 a year but at least one Russian guy gets to own Chelsea FC !??

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/16/2008 6:38:00 AM

    umm once again pal you have yet to provide any facts just angry rhetoric, is the war in afganistan justified, did two planes not NY in 2001? Yes, many people hate the USA some with good reason, some like yourselves clearly have no reason just empty anger. However, many people love the USA, moved there from Europe, S. America Africa, Asia and found great success! I dont think Russia is looked at in the most positive light either my friend, and I will tell you some of it IS justified some is porbably Not. Maybe you should be a little more open-minded. Or at least try responding to the argument at hand. Economy, war perceptions, etc...two examples - wal-mart, I rebuked the statement that American business is not innovative by brining up the fact that Wal-Mart perfected (JIT) Just-in-Time inventory systems, your lot also went on to say that American business is at an end, I rebuked further with statistics, etc where is your evidence your proof your bases for these rediculous statements? Stop crying start making some points

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/15/2008 4:41:37 AM

    "They were too busy runniing away" Genius - here is the sad hypocracy that is Russian - You tell us we are power hungry evil empire bombing everyone in our way, with no mercy on smaller weaker countries, then when Russia beats up on their tiny neighboor you all start acting like your some mighty empire and pitty the foolish Georgians who get in your way! So its not okay for the USA to act all big and bad but when Russia wins some stupid inconsequential war your national pride is at full throttle?!? Which do you hate the player or the game?

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/15/2008 10:41:00 AM

      The difference is: Irak did NOTHING to provoke US intervention (e.g. they did NOT bomb barracks of american army, or USMC, or whatever, in no country of the world) . Georgians DID it (and the russian forces they hitted -besides the town of Tskinvali, bombet ad 11,00 PM -so ALL were in their home- with saturation fire of rockets and artillery- were were they were in according to an internationally sanctioned and appointed cease fire agreement, so nobody can say ther were "occupying forces") . Of course to compare Georgia to Russia is like to compare a barking Yorkshire to a big danish or to a Saint Bernard dog . But if the yorkshire bites the Saint Bernard's heel (or the Saint Bernard'ss CIVILIAN friends), the saint bernard reacts...Only a moron can pretend not to understand it... Even if that oron is an Harvard (or whatever) graduate...

      • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/15/2008 9:50:35 PM

        But "Saint Bernard" will not brag after that on every cornet how he defeatet the yourkshire. Another thing if it was a pitbull.

        • Posted By: The genius @ 12/16/2008 5:39:50 AM

          DrewCAENG and bighappy, If you were attacked in the street by the teenager of small growth, shooting in you, you will be protected? The teenager has remained is alive, however to you speak, as you have dared to be protected from the small teenager. The teenager is analogy of Georgia.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/15/2008 11:07:21 AM

    Yes your comaprrison of Iraq might have credence, but you missed my point entirely. You, genius the other clown glenno and company have been circulating this website bitching about American aggression. Your (by your I mean et al.) examples of American agression have included everything from Iraq to South America to Afganistan. While I am the first to admit America has a history of doing less than ameable things (what country besides Sweden doesnt?) I will say that your blatent hatred and jelousy for is unfounded. Afghanistan effectivly DID attack us! They allowed terrorists to operate from their country and in doing so killed many innocent citizens. So is that just typical American aggression as well?

    Further you dont hear us bragging about blowing the Afganis back to the stone age either! Many Americans not only donate but are activly invovled in helping the displaced people of Iraq and Afganistan. Russia on the other hand finaly gets a chance to dust off their outdated weapons, fights a non important skirmish against a tiny state and all the sudden you guys think your so mighty, its sad more than anything. Meanwhile your boats are being seized by a bunch of spear throwing Africans and last I heard Russia couldnt keep the Chechnians under control, so maybe some self-reflection is in order. Plus, I have heard that Moscow was supporting seperatists in Georgia who were carrying out acts of terrorism in order to provoc the Georgian army. Maybe its true maybe its not but perhaps you should look into that and do some research of your own instead of swalllowing Putin's load everytime he asks huh?

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/12/2008 12:01:56 PM

    Forbes global 2000:
    Over 600 companies American
    29 - Russian

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/12/2008 2:13:43 PM

      How many russin company were in the first 600 in 1990 ? Zero . And now ? 29 . WOW ! Almost 2 more company each year ! Oh, those Russians...

      • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/12/2008 7:06:57 PM

        USSR did not have companies, so there was nothing to count in 1990. And how many Russion companies from those 29 ae producing something beyond raw materials? I believe you have some, it is interesting to know which ones?

        • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/13/2008 9:34:45 AM

          Wall Mart is the biggest US company, as far as I know . What do they "produce" ? They just import cheap things (mpstly from China) and sell it at the higest possible price . What has "production" (adjoined value, technologies, innovation...) go to do with it ?

          • Posted By: The genius @ 12/14/2008 3:20:22 AM

            In Russia it is a lot of, many networks of supermarkets. And Russian and European.
            Already at each corner there are smart supermarkets. It for 10 years, since full absence. But in Russia there is no fashion to exaggerate the business. Excessive eulogy and ratings result in a precipice. Look, that at you was with great banks and the hypothecary companies. Your state has rescueed many, differently now in America there would be in general no bank. To them have presented money for rescue.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/12/2008 11:47:15 AM

    As for the auto industry as I am sure you and all your pals are feeling really gleefull that the American auto industry is having problems look at England, their auto industry dissovled into thin air and they adapted their economy. Something that America can do if need be, you on the other hand celarly cannot. A handfull of Russians got rich off of oil and natural gas, as soon as that stops your stock market cant even stay open and your currency dissolves. IF the US autos go, it is simply because other countries did it better! That is capitalism and you have to take the good with the bad. However we will adapt and either start over with energy effecient cars or do something else becasue US economy is the mot diversified in the world. Obama will probably create a new industry single handedly by pouring government money into the system. Since you and everyone else is still buying t-notes even at 0% it shoudnt be a problem. If anything the destruction of US autos is long over due and the fact that people are still scrambling for T notes even as one of our oldest and most storied industries falls further just proves the durability of the US.

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/12/2008 2:08:55 PM

      As for the auto industry as I am sure you and all your pals are feeling really gleefull that the American auto industry is having problems look at England, their auto industry dissovled into thin air and they adapted their economy.
      -
      Well, German auto industry has not dissolved into thin air...It means that Germany did not adapt to new economy ?
      However, auro industry is gone, trade balance is dow (since years), manifacture industry as a whole is deep in trouble...Where is your productivity ? Services ? You mean banks (LB, etc.), insurance (AIG), or the like ? Gosh, THAT was the best you had ? Or is it Mc Donald, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Wall Mart...What ?

      • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/13/2008 6:01:15 PM

        Don't worry for US autoindustry, it is not going anywhere. It was sick for long time with unions viirus, but soon Chapter 11 (bancruptcy restructuring) will perge this infection. As for your question about what USA produce - I could give you 1000 items but my hands are to tired, so I will provide a few: Agricaultural mashines, building industry, airplanes, the most sophisticated electronics, chemistry, metals, drugs, ... sorry, I can nt handle it anymore,my fingers are tired.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/12/2008 11:38:06 AM

    Yes I have read latest news on the the auto industry, maybe you dont understand our import export balance shifts nearly every year. Sometimes it is really high, sometimes it is low...IT DOES NOT MATTER our debt is still rated at its highest AAA
    so obviously most economists dont think it matters. Look at the fortune 1000 biggest MULTINATIONAL companies - more than 50% are US companies, how mnay are Russian? The only thing RUSSIA is good for oil and vodka, yes Russians might do business with Germans by buying a Siemen mobile phone or whatever but that doesnt mean the Russian economy is worth anything. You better get sowing or pray that oil goes back to $145.

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/12/2008 12:34:11 PM

      "EON ruhrgas and Gasprom signed a significant deal in St. Petersburg, giving the german company a stake in the enormous Yuzhno-Russkoye" natural gas field in Siberia ."
      "The EU countries account for 80 % of cumulative foreign investments in Russia ."
      ""We cannot build an european architecture without Russia or against Russia, only with Russia", said Alexander Rahr, directo of Russian/Eurasian program at the German Council on Foreign Relation ."
      "Germany -Europe's largest economy- exported in Russia for $ 28,2 billions in 2007, 5 times the US export to Russia in the same year" .
      "Total trade between Russia and Germany in the first 10 month of 2008 raised to $ 49,5 billions"
      "There iare about 4600 german firm operating in Russia, from Siberia to Ekateriburg, investing $ 13,2 billions, building facories and delivering ,machine tools to russians who aspire to be more than raw goods supplyer for european neighbors" (they know their limits, unlike you...) .
      And on, and on, and on (high speed trains, hrvesters and tractors, drills to bore tube tunnels, eyc.)...
      Source: International Herald Tribune, December 2, 2008 .
      And this ist ONLY the erman-russian trade .
      We are not talking about cell phones or I-pod, buddy...

      • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/12/2008 7:03:20 PM

        We know, Germany has special traditional relations with USSR, now with Russia, they had to supply a lot of goods to Russia in exchange for gas, to balance the sheets. Amount approximately the same as 20 years ago, Russian export of resources is the same as well. And only 13.2 billion of investments in Russia??? Do you understand how tiny is it?

        • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/13/2008 10:26:15 AM

          And only 13.2 billion of investments in Russia??? Do you understand how tiny is it?

          Better few than nothing . They do, means, it can be done . Why you do not ?

        • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/13/2008 10:21:40 AM

          Amount approximately the same as 20 years ago
          -
          Wrong . The German trade with Russia has increased 25 % in the first 10 month of 2008 (and Russia is one of the fastest growing market for german companies after China) .. 25 % in 10 month . Think how much in 20 years...

        • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/13/2008 10:13:39 AM

          Put it in another way: german and EU economy (as yours) is in recession, russian economy, not yet (it can be in the next year, for some points, but the future is unwritten) . So they (and you) badly need some who buy your production (if any), and Russia is a good customer like another . The difference is, they sell to Russia, you don't (or very less) .

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/12/2008 6:54:33 PM

      Correction: they are not so good anymore in producing vodka, but they are very good in drinking it. But they producduce pretty good Shampain,... not, forget it, it was USSR, now Ukraine (Artemovsk town).

      • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/13/2008 9:39:10 AM

        Try "Russky Standard" Vodka, before to say BS (but not too much, or you will say more of them...)...

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/12/2008 1:24:55 PM

      our debt is still rated at its highest AAA
      -
      I say once again: AAA was the rating of Fanny and Freddie before the meltdown...And where is F&F now ?
      Do you know why people scramble for T bonds ? Because the world is FULL of T-bonds, and without money from T-Bonds USA are wasted, and all those T bonds in China and Japan and elsewhere are wasted too . So people who HAVE the T-bonds have no choicwe but t buy OTHER T-bonds, until they can . The day they will have some URGENT expense to face at home, and no more money to spare to buy Your bonds..."Dies Irae" for you...

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/10/2008 12:17:19 PM

    You have lost 1/4 of your reserves trying to prop up the Ruble! You think the Ruble will gain value ? Where do you base this on? Oil is predicted by OPEC to settle at $75 that means you guys are in some trouble. What happens when the western countres start getting off oil? Then you guys are really f*cked.
    Belarus, Ukrane and Kazakhstan are nothing to brag about.

    When I speak fo your nationalism I am refering to your state sponsered propoganda like that anti-USA themed rally in front of the kremlin that is either planned or just took place (cant remember but read about it somewhere)
    If your debt just has been reduced to BBB how do you explain your previous post?

    • Posted By: The genius @ 12/10/2008 1:54:37 PM

      The Russian policy BECAME MORE reflects steps of the USA aside than Russia. The USA are done with a step against Russia, and Russia now will do too the step. And more recently was so, Reagan has deceived Gorbachev, Clinton treated Yeltsin's with vodka. Bush has ostensibly got friendship with Putin and too has deceived (Putin has closed all Russian bases Cuba, Vietnam, and Bush has on the contrary opened around of Russia a heap-booze of military bases and so on, a strange American submarine near "Kursk", murder of children in Beslan, murder of Russian peace-making the soldier in Georgia, failure of economic transactions, the antiRussian laws in the USA are not cancelled already tens years, scoring by some politicians from the USA of plans of a partition of Russia, support of fascists-politicians in the East Europe official figures of the USA, Putin's insults in the western press and so on and so on. And everywhere somewhere beside or openly or having hidden the American traces. Much still is not known. But all there is a limit. In Russia too not fools. The USA one speaks Russia, at home and to another speaks another, does the third.
      Will suffice to deceive.
      In general Putin is more friendly to the USA, than the Russian public opinion to the USA. Yes it so!

      • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/10/2008 7:37:28 PM

        "In general Putin is more friendly to the USA, than the Russian public opinion to the USA."
        Good people.
        You were the same even when consumed humanitarian "Bush legs".

        • Posted By: The genius @ 12/11/2008 7:07:31 AM

          The Russian public opinion admired with the USA in first half of 90 years, but there was no for Russia " a plan Marshall " as once for Germany, and there was an American concept of restraint and easing of Russia. " Legs Bush " cost in Russia 3,5 dollars for kg.

          • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/12/2008 12:16:59 AM

            US wanted to make business with Russia as they did with China, they hoped it would be even better and were willing to give Russia 5 "Marshall plans". You remember what Russians reaction was - "Americans want to colonize Russia, hands off of our land and plants", and so on, and so on. Because now US capitalists learned their lesson and do not want invest in Russia - you came to "logical" conclusin that USA want to invade Russia or wipe it out. Probably it would be true if Russians dominated in USA, fortunately fo both of our countries it is not the case.

            • Posted By: The genius @ 12/12/2008 1:49:37 PM

              The American business is most from the Western countries is subordinated to political ideology, a rate which compose.

              • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/12/2008 6:46:21 PM

                China is ideologically correct then? Great logic!

            • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/12/2008 10:27:06 AM

              So...Germans make business with Russia (Siemens, Ruhrgas, Tyssen Krupp, etc.), italians do (ENI, Merloni, etc.), French (Total, etc.) and Norwegians do (Statoil, for Stcockman and Yamal field), even Englishmen do...It is not so hard, it seems...

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/11/2008 7:26:08 AM

    This article just came out in forbes today, funny it is exactly what I have been saying.

    http://www.forbes.com/home/2008/12/09/russia-ruble-currency-pf-ii-in_vk_1209soapbox_inl.html

    • Posted By: The genius @ 12/12/2008 3:44:06 PM

      Your words are identical with these and others. These are words how the cliche, are born in armies of psychological operations of the USA? Certainly, war in Georgia against the Russian citizens, against Russia, for the first outflow of the capital, and now information economic operations against Russia, for the second wave of outflow of the capital has been at first organized.

      The rouble will be strong, Russia refuses currency transactions through dollar with many countries. Russia will reduce an oil recovery and the price will be 50 and more dollars.
      There will be essentially new economic rate of Russia. Details not for you. It will be an ascention of Russia!

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/11/2008 8:48:15 PM

      Is it Ruble or rubble?

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/11/2008 11:36:33 AM

      Please,read the comments too...

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/10/2008 10:26:10 AM

    Sorry but although I do respect your ability to converse in English (I certainly could not in Russian) I could not understand your last post. However you wrote that capitalism depends on underpaying the worker. That is not true at all! The US is 4th in the world for GPD per capita, our workers are paid more than most. Now look at China - they are not a capitalist country (at least not in the same sense as the USA) and they underpay their workers. Capitalist economies depend on workers being able to afford goods and conumse, so it would be not in our best interest to underpay our workers. What do you think of Putin and your countries unwathering and unauditied nationalism? Is it not dangerous and a little unrealistic?

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/10/2008 7:27:37 PM

      You did not read Marks "Capital", because of it you do not understand.

      • Posted By: The genius @ 12/12/2008 2:09:19 PM

        US is 13.8 Trillion, not 14.5

  • Posted By: The genius @ 12/10/2008 2:28:50 AM

    The nature of Russian life is those. It seems, small efficiency, bad quality, oppression and a disorganization and chaos. However Russian activity, a life and, accordingly, history moves jerky, transformations, revolutions, accelerations, an ingenuity when many problems collect, troubles when the critical weight is created. This difference of Russian outlook from western. The western image is forward movements, it step by step, this decision behind the decision. Russian image are spiral movements, it is a jump, a stop, a jump, this deletion of the previous decision and statement of absolutely new decision. It as " indistinct logic " in the theory of the Russian emigrant-mathematician.
    To the West unsuccessful jumps of Russian are remembered!!! The West thinks, that it is a basis of Russian. But it not so. For example, communism. In Russia the overwhelming majority of people already has forgotten communistic outlook. There was a prompt transformation of consciousness and a life. But the West still thinks, that it is a basis of Russian.
    This Russian perception creates also sharp distinctions in Russia, does not allow to adhere to moderation and an average line. A precipice between rich and poor. Kindness of culture, religion and cruelty in fight. It is a lot of talents and many fools. By the way, present authorities of Russia try to structure a life, taking many the functioning of authority necessary from the western experience, a society, business. But without dissolution in an Anglo-Saxon civilization. And modernization of original Russia through much useful, that is created by the western idea and a society. But futile efforts to the West on involving Russia in an orbit of the civilization through involving of other countries surrounding Russia (Poland, Ukraine, Georgia, etc.) . Russia alters western at home. At Russian genetic memory of many military invasions from the western direction is very strong. If the father, the grandfather, the great-grandfather were at war with army from the West why also present Russian to not wait for the next invasion? This memory raises in Russian obstinacy and persistence and resistance up to the highest level. And Russian know only one: Poland - a double-exit courtyard of the western aggressors to Russia (in 19 century an attack of the strongest army of the West led by Napoleon to Russia THROUGH Poland; in 20 century an attack of the strongest army of the West led by Hitler to Russia THROUGH Poland; in 21 century an attack?????? To Russia THROUGH Poland). If to look on a historical retrospective show the attack of strong western army which is in Poland, to Russia is equaled 100 %!!!!!!
    And the USA now wish to place any not clear rockets in Poland?!?!
    Because of distinction of perception are created today's friction between the West and Russia.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/10/2008 7:12:02 PM

      If anybody attacked you last 63+ years were Chiniese. That time they were weak... You have all resons (from your sick point of view) to suggest that USA are making China stronger to invade Russia (by the way, Chiniese are doing it now peacefully).

      • Posted By: The genius @ 12/12/2008 2:00:58 PM

        Here again I write. I did not see any Chinese in Russia. Only on TV.
        The USA are branch of the Chinese shop. In Russia the goods from China is a black label of bad quality. Russian love the goods from Japan and the Europe.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/09/2008 12:07:24 PM

    Ill repeat what I said earlier 1/3 of Russian population is BELOW the poverty line! 33%%%%%%%%%

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/09/2008 12:52:21 PM

      It WAS below the poverty line, in 2002-2003 . Now that percentage is between 15 and 20 & .

      • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/09/2008 9:14:42 PM

        It depends how low is your line.
        Poverty line in USA is more than $1000 a month. What percentage of Russians is above this? I can not estimate the whole Russia, but even in Moscow less than 50% people have it.

        • Posted By: The genius @ 12/10/2008 3:10:12 AM

          It is dispute of different time estimations. The American estimates statically today's moment. It yes, America economically above Russia during a today's instant.
          Russian estimates dynamically. Estimates a trend of movement of economy. In 91 year almost famine in Russia. 05-08 year Russian have flooded elite rest in the Europe. Ask Europeans! Growth in all branches of economy. In many in some times. Imagine, if growth was in all American branches of economy in times for some years! As though you felt yourselves. Certainly, excellently. Here and in Russia many feel excellently very much. Everywhere growth. And it is not important, that start of growth from very small level. Growth is visible.
          Where aspires to Americans? At you already all is. And Russian want also the machine and the house and so on. Very much want, because many it yet were not sated. Therefore there will be a growth.
          About China. In Russia China do not consider great. I do not know, why in the USA China consider great and encouraging. In Russia appreciate Japan, than China more. With Japan respect for QUALITY of the goods, and with China do not respect for poor quality. You estimate, that China makes much. Well here the situation who is more important, that who makes billions cowards and disposable electronics or nearly so eternally reliable motor vehicles or who gives natural resources. Everyone is important in own way. In China of 300 million work on the western countries and the others live well, 1 billion poor peasants. Russian are not going to sew for America cowards and bras.
          Russian will be in ten years as Americans, to change the money-candy wrappers for the real goods, will build financial pyramids for all world, will speculate with natural resources, and high technologies will be. Let Chineses work for 12 hours per day, and per Russia such fools are not present, here people now likes to enjoy a life.

          • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/10/2008 7:04:44 PM

            You still have to learn chinirse. my friend. Soon it will be dominating language in Russia. I dson't see how you can prevent it.

            • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/11/2008 11:19:41 AM

              Simple . Let Chinese keep going having so few female and so many males (and elders too...)...

              • Posted By: The genius @ 12/11/2008 5:47:36 PM

                In America almost completely do not understand the world and movement of the world. They glorify China. But it is the usual country which sews many cowards, female linen, a coat and so on. America worships to it as the god. Bosh great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                • Posted By: The genius @ 12/12/2008 1:55:32 PM

                  I did not see any Chinese in Russia. Only on TV.
                  The USA are branch of the Chinese shop.

        • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/10/2008 10:06:30 AM

          Every country has and use its own poverty line, in according with its own cost of life, inflation, ourchasing power of the national currency etc . I think it would not be seriuos to calculate RUSSIAN poverty line with AMERICAN criteria (e.g., they do not pay so much for healh insurance, y'know...) . Maybe the "Mc Donald's index" could help to settle a common basis of accountancy, but I am not so sure about it too...

          • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/10/2008 7:06:45 PM

            Emember, people under poverty line here are eligible for help, including free medicine. Of course it is much lower than american standard, but still it is better than in Russia.

            • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/11/2008 12:55:12 PM

              Do we want to talk about that ?

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicko

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/12/2008 12:14:14 PM

    More facts to wrap your head around:
    USA global 600
    Sales ($bil) 10,226
    Profits 680
    Assets 30,999
    Employees (thousand) 24,393

    Russia Global 29
    Sales ($bil) 357
    Profits 73
    Assets 765
    Employees (Thousand) 2403

    USA not going anywhere for a long time like I said dont hold your breath

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/12/2008 12:26:08 PM

      USA not going anywhere for a long time ,

      I wish it to you, but since you have already gone to Irak...As the Bible says, "it happened once, it can happen again..."...

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