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  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/12/2008 12:07:19 PM

    Top 100 By Asset Value
    USA - 32
    Russia - 3

    Once again...I have posted FACTS something you seem to never do.

  • Posted By: Impartial ordinary human @ 12/01/2008 6:16:36 PM

    It is almost impossible for the west to see reality as it is. America is in decline since 1970, its hegemonic power is nearing the end of its shelf life. America has learnt the hard way that even with the mightiest army it failed to defeat untrained fighters with basic weapons. Russia has been a power through out history, something ingrained in her mindset, she will always act as a leader and not a follower, something the westcan never stomoch

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/01/2008 9:26:34 PM

      See who is talking. USSR was defeated by already "duying" USA. Russia is erally duying nation (your population is declining few million every year). Why should Europe come closer to Russia when all neighbour countries (mostly former friends, compatriots and camarades) learned to hate it. As I remembner, not so long ago even UK tried to be your friend - never ever again after your pollonium "gifts". Where is your "great" industry, even Ucraine now is ahead of you. Do svidanja, tovarisch.

      • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/12/2008 11:36:21 AM

        Where is your "great" industry, even Ucraine now is ahead of you
        -
        So how comes so many Ucrainians went and go to look for work in Russia (and not the contrary way) ?

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 12/09/2008 12:17:50 AM

    America can never re-pay their debt, and now that the world do no longer want the dollar as the reserve currency there will be a lot of dollars sent back to the US as soon as the deleveraing is over. Then the country will drown in dollars and with no production, no real economy and not a sound currency.... it is doomed to hyperinflation of a worthless currency consisting of IOU's.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/09/2008 9:08:43 PM

      You never worked in US, idiot, so you don't know how sophisticated and hi-tech their industry is, except few left unionized branches. Productivity here is about 100 times higher than on your outdated plants (twice as higher than in EU), and it allows so many workers to work in "non-productive" service and business areas. Factories load here is about 70%, americans do not "fight for the harvest" and don't try to increase steel production above needs. Of copurse, they moved several low-profitable and pollution productions outside.

      • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/12/2008 9:43:04 AM

        Oh-Oh...Have you read the last news about auto industries ?
        If yiu are so profuctive, how come your import-export balance is so BADLY bad ?

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/12/2008 4:24:29 AM

    How do you know what the attitude is genius?? Are you a diplomat? do you work for the Chinese consult in Moscow? You dont know Sh*t buddy, all you have is your attitude and assumptions...At least I have provided FACTS (see below to pevioous posts)

  • Posted By: The genius @ 12/11/2008 6:01:57 PM

    Re-read each word and understand. Think more, it is more. The attitude China-USA and the attitude Russia-China is different understanding!!!!!!!!!!! Think, my friend!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: The genius @ 12/10/2008 12:16:15 PM

    It is interview of Russian economist Michael Khazin. It not my sights, simply is an interesting thought:
    Posted By: The genius 12/10/2008 10:13:59 AM and below 5 posts.

    "YTRO" talks to the known economist, in accuracy predicted a default of 1998, former economic adviser Boris Yeltsin, the president of the company of expert consultation "NEOKON" Michael Khazinym

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/10/2008 7:32:01 PM

      Don't rely on hired economists, have your own brain. Even Western economists now are under suspision, leave alone a Russian one.

      • Posted By: The genius @ 12/11/2008 4:04:22 PM

        Don't rely on hired economists, have your own brain. Even Western economists now are under suspision, leave alone a Russian one.

  • Posted By: The genius @ 12/10/2008 10:13:59 AM

    "Y??????" talks to the known economist, in accuracy predicted a default of 1998, former economic adviser Boris Yeltsin, the president of the company of expert consultation "????????????" Michael Khazinym.
    "Y??????": whether you Agree what the main originator of an economic crisis are the USA?
    Michael Khazin: If to do accurate informations one are guilty not only the United States. There is a world financial system. In 80th years when bases of present crisis have been incorporated, this system borrowed third of world. And in crisis it is guilty. Certainly, basis of this system are the USA, base currency ??? the American dollar, and the basic institutes ??? the American investment banks, the American insurance companies, etc. That is in such formulation are sense though it needs to be used cautiously. Thus it is necessary to consider, that the very first crisis, the answer on which became the development of policy led a present state of affairs, there was all 70th years. If to look at the average salary of the American worker, (in relative expression) it reached a maximum in 1968 - 1971. After that the salary only fell. And the answer to crisis 70, I shall remind, there was a whole series of events. 1971 ??? a default to the USA, refusal of gold maintenance of dollar; 1973 ??? oil crisis, 1975 - 76 ??? wild recession with stagflation. The answer to this crisis became a policy of the Floor Walker (predecessor Alan Grinspena on a post of chapter ?????? ??? "Y") and administrations of president Carter. There is a basis to consider, that this policy prepared under Carter's second term. However Carter has lost, the president became Reagan why also this policy has received the name "??????????????????????".

    Still economists of XIX century have deduced the global law of capitalism: it consists that efficiency of the capital all time falls. Why? Because the problem of the capitalist consists in underpaying to the worker. As a result of it speed of accumulation of the capital always exceeds speed of compensation of a labour, that is compensation for work. And the labour is a basic source of demand, as a result, demand lags behind the offer of the goods.

    • Posted By: The genius @ 12/10/2008 11:01:34 AM

      Y : the System itself generates reduction in demand?
      ??.??.: Yes, concerning the offer. It can absolutely grow, but rather it falls. And this problem solved in the different ways. Solved in classical capitalism by crisis of overproduction, destroying surplus of the goods. Then due to export of the capital on yet not mastered territories, the corresponding policy has received the name "imperialism." And the third way are wars. The first world war is a war for the markets of export of capitals. As in the First world all the put problems have not been solved, it has repeated already in the form of the Second world. And after that it became clear that to continue periodically crises of overproduction for capitalism it is impossible more, because the socialism wins. They extremely needed to create system of manufacture, at which crises as in 1929, would not be more. For this purpose it has been created ?????????????? - ?????????????? system which actually was the tool ?????????????????????????????????? export of capitals. It included the international bank, differently IMF, and agency on the development, called for some reason the World bank. Then the system which referred to ????????, and from the beginning 90 - WTO has been thought up. Its problem was to not resolve to the small countries to close the markets that they could not compete due to the development to world system of capitalism. And all this should occur in dollars, for absolutely trivial reason: because by the end of the Second world war more than 50 % of economic were economy of the USA. And this system safely existed prior to the beginning of 1970th years. When it became clear that to take out the capital there is no place more, the system of socialism has been closed. India and China for that moment were the countries with a subsistence economy.

      • Posted By: The genius @ 12/10/2008 11:05:34 AM

        Y: They simply could not all this consume...
        ??.??.: Yes, quite right. Sharp crisis of falling of efficiency of the capital has begun, accordingly. That is crisis 70 is a crisis of falling of efficiency of capitals. We shall note, that absolutely similar situation was in the USSR. The USSR, sharply having expanded the markets after the Second world war, has made technological jerk. It occured somewhere up to the middle 1960. And further there was no place to extend already simply.
        So, the idea which was offered with the Floor Walker, consist in the following. As the USA cannot take out with the same efficiency the capital any more and cannot stop issue because it is necessary to stimulate development in a military-industrial complex, has been decided to not reduce issue, and to increase. Thus it has been directed not only to banks and on development of the Military complex, but also on support of cumulative demand. So, if 1981-1983 it, first of all, the program of development of the state demand (the program of " star wars ") since 1984 is support of cumulative demand of house facilities. As a result, with 1984 in the USA has begun fast growth of cumulative debts of house facilities.
        "Y": That is escalating of that huge debts has begun in sphere of house facilities?
        ??.??.: Quite right. But at the first stage growth of debts was compensated by new credits, and eventually we send that to what send. Last years rate of growth of debts the house. Facilities reached 8-10 % a year, besides that the economy above 4 % never rose. And eventually we send to a situation which can be named sharp structural crisis. What is such? There is a concept " really had incomes of the population " is that the population receives as wages and incomes from early the placed savings. There is a demand cumulative which theoretically, at the average long stages, should be leveled to really had incomes. If at you during long years charges exceed really had incomes of the population under these charges additional capacities are created. But, as this all credits actually you eat the future charges. There was a situation at which in the USA there is a piece of economy which exists only due to issue. It is a piece us 1998, that is already enough old has been calculated in 2001 by estimations of interbranch balance of the USA, according to balance. The figure also has turned out, that in America of economy of 10-12 % exist only due to pure issue. In view of the animator who is equal usually 2-2.5, this figure reaches already 25 %, i.e. the quarter of the American economy on the beginning of 2000th could exist only under issue demand.

        • Posted By: The genius @ 12/10/2008 11:08:27 AM

          "Y": But then there should be a mad inflation.
          ??.??.: It was. But! Americans very qualitatively operated the economy and rather competently collected in the channel this inflation on sectors of economy. This inflation was not neither in consumer, nor in industrial sector (well, almost was not), but it was in financial. These are so-called financial bubbles. The first financial bubble has bursted in 1987 in the share market. Then there was a recession 1991, then, accordingly, 2000.
          The summer 2007 became the critical moment for the USA. The bubble in the market of the real estate was inflated so, that became clear, that it just about will burst. To suppose it it was impossible, as discrepancies of really had incomes of the population and volume of consumption were so great, that it was possible to receive new Great depression. For this reason of the USA in August of 2007, in the dead market (as all in holidays), have begun its re-structuring. Re-structuring was, I shall not be afraid of this word, ingenious - it is more than on 4 % a month they did not lower the market of the real estate. They operated very slowly.
          "Y": you wish to tell, what the American market of the real estate fell influence " from above "?
          ??.??.: Simply they so supported it, that it fell not too quickly. But consequence of that they kept the market of the real estate, there was that inflation has filtered and into industrial sector, and in consumer. As a result rates of its growth have considerably grown. The official statistics hides true figures. If to count inflation in view of all prices that we shall receive somewhere 15 % if to consider still every possible economic indexes and other influencing parameters, - already all of 17 percent.
          And when inflation has begun, it became clear, that there is the most terrible - because of inflation that cumulative demand which they supported began to fall. Which was a basis of all this growth. If at you consumer inflation by the end of year will be 12-13 %, it means, that gross national product of the USA will fall to 5-7 %. It is already heavy depression. To understand, what will be total falling, it is necessary to look consumption on the grant. It turns out somewhere $2500 billion in a year of direct grants. In view of the animator 2 it is received about $5000 billion is, even by the most optimistic calculations, it is more than third of all American economy. That is the share of that part of the American economy which will absolutely precisely disappear as a result of crisis, makes nearby its thirds. It is the most severe crisis, as great depression. During Great depression in a minimum consumption in the USA has fallen almost twice, and real gross national product - to 30 percent. Here, as I already spoke, real gross national product will fall at least to 30 %, well, and the standard of living twice will fall precisely, and can and more. That is it is total accident for all sociopolitical syste

          • Posted By: The genius @ 12/10/2008 11:14:46 AM

            That is it is total accident for all sociopolitical system of the USA.
            "Y": In what it will result?
            ??.??.: the USA are the state which in total makes 20 % of world gross national product, and consumes essentially more - up to 40 % at par purchasing capacity. Here you also imagine, that the world use will fall for three years to 20 percent. It will be total crisis, Great depression in scales of all world. The prices for oil will fall very strongly. I think, the price $20-25 for barrel will be considered very good. The prices for metals and other raw material also will fall. And all this could be predicted safely in the beginning of 2000th years.
            "Y": How the present sharp phase and what will be then will long be prolonged?
            ??.??.: there Are two extreme variants. A variant the first: issue will stop an iron hand, for example, it will make Obama as soon as will enter a post. Will nationalize FED with its issue function, etc. Certainly, it after such games will kill. And it will be not the first president of the USA whom will kill for attempts to liquidate in the USA private central bank. For it have killed ????????????????, the Lincoln and still someone from presidents. If issue stops, falling of this third of economy about which I spoke, will occur within 2-3 months.
            "Y": And the second script?
            ??.??.: I do not think, that the American president will go on so desperate step. And then it needs to stimulate and compensate a decreasing demand due to issue. Then falling of third of American economy will borrow not 2-3 months, and 2,5-3 years.
            Thus, varying issue, theoretically a situation it is possible to deduce on intermediate time conditions. For example, if purposefully to accelerate inflation, having accepted any next " plan POLSON " for support house facilities. In this case to lower economy on third it will be possible, for example, for one and a half year. However, thus it is necessary to understand, that any normal economy cannot easy go through loss of third.
            "Y": That is, it should be compressed?
            ??.??.: It should be compressed, plus, still any time should leave on its reorganization. The structure of economy of the USA should change very strongly. And it too will borrow time, and all this time we shall observe falling which classical sample is Great depression. Here such picture at us across the USA.
            "Y": What waits other regions of the world?

            • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/10/2008 7:23:24 PM

              What happened to you? You talk to yourself. Vodka?

              • Posted By: The genius @ 12/11/2008 3:55:17 PM

                Our American brother has advantage above other Americans.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/10/2008 9:28:08 AM

    Good point! And someone will have to shake the system up but you and gleeno keep saying that a run on the dollar is near and the US will collapse over its fake banking system. Meanwhile , yersterday the US sold 30 Billion worth of debt at nearly 0%, and the demand was so high that they could have sold four times as much. So while we are getting money virtually free Russia has been downgraded to near junk bond status.

    Sorry

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/10/2008 9:51:23 AM

      Russia has been downgraded to near junk bond status.
      -
      Maybe you do not know so well the S&P code: BBB means not "junk bond" . It means "adequate payback capacity, but risk of worsening in the future" . It is not a "magna *** laude" graduation, but, they have seen (and see, and will see) very mch worde than that...

      • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/11/2008 2:05:15 PM

        P.S.: "Junk Bond is CCC, C, or the like ("D" is "Bakruptet")

  • Posted By: The genius @ 12/10/2008 1:26:30 PM

    Why there will be no recurrence of the prices for oil during disintegration of the USSR.
    1) now for 18 years is closer to date of a full exhaustion of oil. It is remembered by traders.
    2) now there is China and other growing economy. And if in the USA there will come long and deep recession, the prices for oil will not fall strongly as China, Japan and Russia having the largest gold and exchange stocks in the world, stimulate on this money internally consumption and the state orders for the economy, as to be reflected by a rise in prices on oil.
    3) analytics and psychology of traders. They already saw 140 dollars for barrel and as now high variability, they easily will start to force the prices to the previous maxima.
    4) OPEC will reduce quotas, and will not listen to more USA as in 80 about increase in extraction to do much harm the USSR.
    5) war nevertheless proceeds in oil fields of Iraq.
    6) the countries not OPEC can create artificial deficiency of oil. (Venezuela, Russia, Norway, etc.)
    7) boom of automobilization of China.

    The low prices for oil have led to disintegration of the USSR because then have ended money:
    1) was not market economy, a market agriculture. Now in Russia is.
    2) was not market export of arms. Now is.
    3) was not gold and exchange stocks and a financial healthy idea them to operate. Now is.
    4) was not in the world of other centers of growth of economy and selling, except for the West. Now is.
    5) was the population of the USSR more on many tens millions, demanding then centralized consumption. Now less also there is no centralization.
    6) were tens external allies, to which USSR helped. Now is not present.
    7) was militarization of the USSR. Now is not present, only a necessary minimum.
    8) was not globalization, interdependence, interosculations. Now is.
    9) was not anti-recessionary management. Now is. Putin will make all possible and impossible.
    As to a default of 98-th then mass scale plunder of the budget and credits of IMF by oligarches and the corrupted officials has been carried out. Now Putin every day personally supervises monetary streams.
    Here to you and the answer: will not wait an economic collapse in Russia!

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/10/2008 7:52:38 PM

      I spoke with my friend in Russia. They did not feel any difference when Russian economy "collapced" in 1998. Russian reaches lost 50% of their capital - nobody noticed again. Probably nothing to collaps?

      • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/11/2008 12:50:35 PM

        It is Moscow Siock Exchange which lost 50 %, not "the Russian" . Onkly 800.000 people (on 145.000.000) has some interests in stock exchange there (the others work -and earn- seriously...)...

      • Posted By: The genius @ 12/11/2008 6:16:59 AM

        In 98 year there was a prompt falling rouble in 5-6 times. Who had accumulation in dollars had fast riches because some days after that dealers the goods, including the real estate, motor vehicles, could not understand under what price to sell and sold many under the old rouble prices. Who has quickly changed dollars for roubles at a new rate and has bought the large goods for roubles, had benefit in 5-6 times. Someone has lost, and someone and has got it is a lot of. And if, the real estate in 98 year has been for example bought and the profit at 20-30-40 time is sold in 07 year.
        Macroeconomic shocks in Russia most of all affect on the state, pension incomes. Who in small and average business on the contrary will receive a good impulse in crisis as when there is a growth of oil and so growth public revenues those have benefit who is connected with large and state business, and in crisis the state pays attention to small business, as to hope of economy. Now in Russia demand for small food shops, for sphere of services to the population. In fact anybody will not refuse meal, even if there will be any big crisis.

  • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/11/2008 11:41:04 AM

    This is more precise:
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aNMj9nRQ7sZY&refer=home

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/10/2008 4:40:15 AM

    you think Russian economy will match the US in 10 years? Are you crazy? Russians will not sow for 12 hours, yes but you better figure something else out then becasue you have no domestic economy besides oil and nat. gas, which I am sorry to say were more inflated in value than a house in Arizona! The Russian elite have done very well recently, buying football teams and big houses in London but how did they get rich? ALL of them, the same way - oil not very sustainable - Americans get rich from everyway - computer technology, media, financial services, agriculture, realestate, production, transportation etc. Plus tose oligarchs are very small in number, you cant claim that the wealth of 15 people is a shinning example of a "new" Russia.

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/10/2008 10:28:34 AM

      I have read some exteems some months ago . They said Russian economy in 10 year will be where US economy IS now (same GNP, etc.) . The point is, where will the US be THEN . Higher ? Lower ? Who knows, foreseeable future is not so long...If the foreign debt does not matter (I said IF), the public debt does, and it is frighteningly high . Experts foresaw a "soft landing" (best) and a "hard landing" (worst) scenario . For the best case, they say, US must reduce the consumptions and the imports (and this crisis can help), but this is not enough . It takes to reduce the public expenses too, and since many of them have been so lowered (for decades) that can be only increased, and quickly (healt, education, infrastructures), the only exense to be cut is the military one . That is, good bye AM systems, farewell NATO expansion, and if it would be possible, some less carrier group in the navy . It hurts ? Can be . But the alternative is the same of the USSR: overstretrching and then...you know the rest...

      • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/10/2008 7:15:19 PM

        IN 10 years you in best case scenarion will be where China is now. We heard all these fantasies (gain and overrun America) for decades in USSR.

        • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/11/2008 11:29:00 AM

          The point is not "Russia will overcome USA" . This is not necessary . Russia just need a decade or two to solve its problems, without hostile interference from outside (and it has shown that it can react so SOME interferences very well...) . If USA will go a bridge to far in th meanwhile (just like USSR did), well, it's up to them...

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/11/2008 11:24:47 AM

    Russians are apparently jelous of Chinese success

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/11/2008 11:04:32 AM

    Genius - you are such a clown? I was just reading an article about China and what do I find? Your anti-american posts all over the place, crying and bitching as usual and blaming the US for everything! You are so pathetic, in fact you dishonor all russians! Then you come to this post and bitch about how China is too subserviant to the USA and complain about the Chinese, whilst at the same time sucking their proverbial cocks on the other comments page by claiming that you the Russians and Chinese should stand together as brothers and defeat the Americans, and begging them to stop investing in the dollar? You have issues bud

  • Posted By: The genius @ 12/10/2008 12:58:43 PM

    Why FED HAS uplifted SOME TIME BACK RATE ABOVE 5 % And PERSISTENTLY HELD, WHILE the INCONSISTENCY of the HYPOTHECARY COMPANIES And FURTHER PROBLEMS At FINANCIAL STRUCTURES, the INSURANCE COMPANIES, MILLIONS AMERICANS, and even at the automobile companies HAS begun? It is nonsense or consciousness. The American economy is various, but its competitiveness all below and below every year. FED weakens dollar meaningly to keep economy, underestimating cost of the goods in comparison with import, but simultaneously it is necessary to hold dollar strong that there was an investor. It is a plug. The dollar will fall to euro till February to 1,5 that the money poured in in the American economy from some part of " plan Polson " have helped the industry and services. Further Obama will begin still a set of liquidity and there will be a strengthening dollar, and further a cycle will repeat. Money put under the arrangement with other central banks, the basic investor is Japan. Put because while always give both consumption and economy the greatest in the world but if competitiveness of economy will weaken further, and there will be other greater economy which reliably involves money streams of money will go there. It can be China or the Europe. Also, the zone of free trade is extremely important for America, differently there will be no place to market in the world production made on extra means. Without a zone of free trade ?????????????? the present depression.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/10/2008 7:48:10 PM

      USA had troble competing with Japan because of low labor cost in Japan. Not ny more. Now USA have trouble competing with China because of ... the same reason. But so does EU, and Russia.
      USA do not have problems competing with develpped countries (EU, evn Japan).
      I am curious why USA do not experience Russian competition even Russia has so cheap work force and still pretty good education? Why China can and tou can not?

      • Posted By: The genius @ 12/11/2008 6:50:48 AM

        Why Russia does not go on a way as China:
        1) Russian ingenuity. The direction not that makes the goods on export and that it is easy to earn money more, but it is not enough working.
        2) a large internal backlog demand. There is a manufacture for Russia More.
        3) on ???????????? easily processed raw material (oil, a wood, metals and so on)
        4) since Soviet times opinion, that the worker never will grow rich and will work for 12 hours per poverty therefore parents of the children do not like to send for simple works, now, probably, in Russia it is more than students, than workers. Everyone study, but not to do an engineering idea, and to be lawyers, managers, financiers, businessmen, programmers and so on. This general movement. In Russia any more there are no engineers and qualified workers. Everyone remember poverty in the USSR workers and engineers and it is not prestigious.
        5) difficulties of integration into the international trading structures. It is a problem from policy. Anybody in the world does not want the new competitor.
        6) Incomes of oil do not move Russian authorities to rise of other branches of economy on export.
        7) the centre of gravity for Russian economy, is Moscow, but not the far countries. Much goes to Moscow, because of that consumption there grows, there is a Moscow demand, and further Russian put all to Moscow even more. Moscow has already reached a level of the western Europe, but all Russia is not present.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/10/2008 11:00:59 AM

    Russian GNP is 2 trillion US is 14.5 Trillion
    Russian population lost 2 million since 2002 US population has grown by 20 mil. since 2002
    Russian GDP per capita is $14,000 US GDP per capita is $47,000
    Russian Debt BBB US Debt AAA

    I dont understand how you can reasonably expect the Russian economy to equal the US in 10 years. Your economy would have to grow 700% its current size to be at the US level and the average Russian person would have to see their pay increase 300% to equal that of Americans. Judging by the current climate and the fact that Russian GDP is expected to decrease by 2-4% in 09' do you think that is realistic or is your media being a little to optimistic (as usual)

    • Posted By: The genius @ 12/10/2008 11:56:54 AM

      Russian GNP is 2 trillion US is 14.5 Trillion
      Possibly, but certainly, not true the following:
      US is 14.5 Trillion will decrease on 1/3. It then 10.
      Russian GNP is 2 trillion - calculation of Russian GNP in roubles will increase for 150 %, but. It then 5 Trillion + the dollar will fall in relation to rouble twice or more on a background of rise of the prices for oil by 2015-2020 = 10 Trillion. Connection to Russia some countries is Still possible: Belarus, a part of Ukraine, Kazakhstan, a part of Georgia. They and so almost are completely involved in Russian economy, but while officially in the independent states.
      Putin now has resolutely started to operate on ???????????? the Russian economy from dollar and creation of calculations in roubles on the world.

      Putin's nationalism is exaggerated. If Americans in other countries mass will deprive with passports, to beat, force to refusal of the American nation I think the USA will operate and speak rigidly. It is possible then to speak about the American nationalism or it it is sewn up the citizens? In the Russia tolerance is observed. There are youth criminal ethnic groupings in large cities or national areas of the country. But in what country they are not present? In Russia the Georgian mafia - as analogue of the Italian mafia in the USA.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/10/2008 11:44:02 AM

    USA is most diversified and technologicaly advanced economy in the world - nobody will dispute this, not even the Russians.
    If USA falls you ALL fall, dont you think many western European countires like Britain, Italy etc are more vulnerable? They have same if not higher levels of debt % as the USA but lack some of the benefits and global dominance of the USA. So how come nobody is predicting their collapse, they run on the same system?!? If the USA economy is a illusion as all you seem to say, then why is every country in the world holding and buying US Debt? it just doesnt add up my friends! Im Sorry but the only reason Putin is bitching about the US and the holding of US debt is because he wants the US to lose clout , he thinks it will make him more popular to you all, and you all eat it up! Its so sad. If Putin told you that Russia actually landed on the moon in the 60's would you believe him also?

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/10/2008 11:21:55 AM

    Wow you are absolutly wrong inflation is not the problem actually it is deflaiton currently. All I gathered there is you think US gross domestic product is going to fall by 30% !!! That is so laughable . I dont know who teaches you economics but I stand by my earlier facts (posted below) FACTS I say NOT random theory based on Twilight zone Russian economics. Why is USA debt rated at AAA (highest rating) and why are wealth funds, private investors and foriegn countries scrambling to buying US debt at nearly 0%, if the country is in as dire condition as you say? Surley if you were right other people would take notice of this, the simple facts and actions prove you wrong my friend
    I think you are confusing your twisted hope of an American collapse with actual economics

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/10/2008 10:12:15 AM

    If Russia used the same standards for poverty as the US 95% of Russia would be below it.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/10/2008 10:02:49 AM

    Well I hope for your benefit it gets better but why does Putin always bitch about the US and blame US for all your problems when it is clearly your over dependence on commodities? In fact the US bubble only helped your commodities boom over the last decade! Correct me if I am wrong but Russian banks did not hold much US sub prime debt and I dont think Russian insurers issued CDO's so what is Putin complaining about? Its just so typical! The whole world blmaes all of their problems on the US and nobody takes responsibility for their own situation. Dont you think it is a little similar to what Hitler did in the 1930's (Not saying Putin is Hitler) but by ranting and raving and pointing fingers at everyone else, including the recent winners of WWI (Allies) in this case the Cold War (USA) he is simply driving up nationalisim to a dangerous level that benefits neither you nor us? I know a thinkg or two about dangerous nationalism (America post 9/11) but we as a country or at least 50% of us were smart enough to talk ourselves out of it and see through the Bull Sh*t. I never hear Russians critizing themselves, you think your so great but I see no evidence of this (minus Vodka)

  • Posted By: The genius @ 12/10/2008 9:25:47 AM

    It is possible to choose all from an information stream so much. You have chosen negative forecasts and interview. I to you can quote such economic forecasts here, that at you hair become upright for horror for the American economy.
    In it to year growth of a total internal product in Russia will be about 7 %. About that there were some years. Growth of real incomes of the population in Russia on an extent some years about 15 %. This growth was and at the price for oil several years ago in 30-40-50 dollars.
    Does not happen in the world of such falling as predict the American engaged agencies. Only if greater war begins. Then certainly, there can be all. Rating agencies were in cooperation with the ruined hypothecary and financial structures of the USA. Overestimated it a rating. Certainly, America overestimate a rating. Nobody will allow any rating agencies will lower a level of the USA. For it they will be severely punished by authorities of the USA. It is the truth of a life. Political, financial, prospecting, military, ideological, humanitarian structures are uniform against Russia. There is a thin management. In Russia it is perfectly known.
    Clever people from business go to Russia easily and quickly to rise, in the West everywhere surplus of a competition, everywhere it is difficult to make the way upward. In Russia the expance, is possible than wish to be engaged and growth and development will turn out.
    In Russia it is a lot of ways of economy, but they are not known abroad, however they develop successfully, but very large oligarches from oil and gas shade all others.

    DrewCAENG, in 10 years Russia will help the USA. Recollect still my words.

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