Russia: Ease Moscow’s Suspicions

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  • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/10/2008 9:18:08 AM

    repeat ....
    US Debt Rating AAA-

    Hmm...It was the same rating of Fannie & Freddie, just befor their crack...Trust in God (and in ratings), but keep your powders dry (and some money away...)...

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/10/2008 5:40:59 AM

    I repeat ....
    US Debt Rating AAA
    Russian debt rating BBB

    What was your point again?

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/10/2008 5:21:49 AM

    US Debt Rating - AAA
    Russian Debt rating BBB (seocnd lowest and reduced from BBB+ for the first time in 9 years)
    Russian debt was lowered because the Russian Gov. spent 1/4 of its currecny reserves proping up the ruble.

    The massive accumulation of reserves is the main reason why Russia kept getting ratings increases, so without that it???s only natural that the rating would go down,??? said Vladimir Osakovsky, an economist in Moscow for UniCredit SpA. ???This will worsen the already-poor sentiment toward Russia.??? -Bloomberg

    S&P said it expected Russia???s current-account surplus to swing into a deficit equivalent to 2.6 percent of gross domestic product next year, compared with a surplus of 5 percent in 2008 due to a ???sharp deterioration in the country???s terms of trade,??? the statement said. Russia???s GDP growth should decline ???sharply??? in 2009, it added...Russia???s economy may shrink as much as 4 percent next year if prices for the raw materials it exports stay low - Bloomberg

    hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/09/2008 10:13:48 AM

    The USA is not going to attack you man!!! We dont care about you! You are not important, Russia = vodak that is it!

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/09/2008 12:57:33 PM

      "The USA is not going to attack you man"
      -
      I hope so for you...FIRST learn how to escape from IRAK...

  • Posted By: The genius @ 12/04/2008 2:57:59 PM

    Support at Clinton of an economic mafia in Russia has created crisis in consciousness of Russian.
    Russian after that steel concerns to the American democracy as to democracy of a mafia. ??bama do not repeat Clinton!
    In 90 years it is enough to any large thief and gangster to exclaim, that it is the democrat and then the USA supported it. Who whom deceived? The American politicians have disappointed hopes of fair Russian or Russian mafia has deceived the USA when shouted about democracy.
    Bush and then Russian have understood has come, that now the USA surrounds Russia with military bases, that the USA supports now fascists and nationalists in the countries near Russia. Too under sauce of democracy.
    So, the USA support a mafia, nationalists, separatists, fascists to harm to Russia. It understands overwhelming majority of fair Russian citizens.
    For citizens of the West the information on promotion of democracy to Russia from the USA moves. But it is a great deceit! Not democratic, not capitalist, not rich, not communistic Russia is not necessary to the USA. The USA Russia as page in the textbook of history is necessary. It will not be. Russia is one thousand years and will be and in the future. And the USA should be understood, that they not a umbilical cord of the world, and the usual country. Also it is not necessary to inflate the American exclusiveness. The USA it not the god.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/04/2008 9:55:04 PM

      It is your mafia, not american.You deserved it, and will have to live with it.

      • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/09/2008 12:23:49 PM

        Yes, russians have their own mafia, italians have their own, japanese have their own (Yakuza), chinese have their own (triads)...Only USA have ALL of them...
        hey too love the USA, it seems...

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 12/04/2008 9:29:29 PM

    *I propose that Russia places missiles in Cuba or Venezuela and see how US reacts.
    *I would like to see Russia buy the Canadian government like US bought the Ukrainian government in '04 and then bring Canada into a military cooperation despite 75% of the population there would not want it.

    I feel bad for Americans who once lived in a great country and now reduced to living in a fascist country where free press is now ranked at 53rd in the world. I feel bad for Americans who had the tech bubble replaced by a housing bubble which will break the bond bubble and destroy the dollar, and thereby having the fed destroy the nation.
    I feel bad for Americans who have a government that is obsessed with the idea of encirceling Russia, when Russia's foreign policy is to cooperate with all countries peacefully.
    My advise for Americans is to pretend to be Canadian when you travel around the world, as unfortunately the people are blamed for the crimes of the American Empire

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/04/2008 9:53:24 PM

      I feel bad for duying (literally - few million per year) Russia, which failed to modernize its industry even with oil doping.
      I don't feel bad for "new Russians" who lost about 50% of their capital on this crisis (they bought good part of those toxic papers, effectively paying americans full price for overpriced houses - thank you), because they could not find any place in Russia where to invest their money.

      • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/09/2008 12:03:33 PM

        Prease correct your data: Russian demographic rate is negative (like many others), but for some HUNDREDS OF TOWSAND (not millions) a year . If this is your first hand knowledge of russian life...use the other hand, it could not be worse...

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 12/05/2008 8:12:45 PM

    Russia has since they dissolved the Soviet Union offer cooperation and friendship to all contries. The Georgian conflict was a result of a Georgian attack motivated by America's encirclement of Russia.

    Why are Americans so brainwashed that they can only see Russia as an enemy??

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/06/2008 4:17:59 PM

      "offer cooperation and friendship"? Why then Russia relations with EU, let alone Estern Europe, are much worse than USSR had?

      • Posted By: The genius @ 12/07/2008 7:16:41 PM

        The USSR were afraid, but Russia are not afraid! In the Europe in many areas of a life and economy Russia is the first capitalist power. America should not is frightened actions of Russia. Russia is the capitalist European country. America strange and silly looks, when speaks about imperialism of Russia. Russia has only economic interests. Capitalism in Russia has passion to promotion and do not confuse to a great communistic campaign!

        • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/09/2008 11:26:21 AM

          So, here is an evidence of how the "Russian relation" with EU is worse than the USSR relation:
          "EON ruhrgas and Gasprom signed a significant deal in St. Petersburg, giving the german company a stake in the enormous Yuzhno-Russkoye" natural gas field in Siberia ."
          "The EU countries account for 80 % of cumulative foreign investments in Russia ."
          ""We cannot build an european architecture without Russia or against Russia, only with Russia", said Alexander Rahr, directo of Russian/Eurasian program at the German Council on Foreign Relation ."
          "Germany -Europe's largest economy- exported in Russia for $ 28,2 billions in 2007, 5 times the US export to Russia in the same year" .
          "Total trade between Russia and Germany in the first 10 month of 2008 raised to $ 49,5 billions"
          "There iare about 4600 german firm operating in Russia, from Siberia to Ekateriburg, investing $ 13,2 billions, building facories and delivering ,machine tools to russians who aspire to be more than raw goods supplyer for european neighbors" (they know their limits, unlike you...) .
          And on, and on, and on (high speed trains, hrvesters and tractors, drills to bore tube tunnels, eyc.)...
          Source: International Herald Tribune, December 2, 2008 .
          Oh, yes, very bad relation...And they export only vodka, of course...

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/06/2008 4:16:27 PM

      offer cooperation and friendship

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 12/03/2008 7:29:39 PM

    One simple FACT: US placing missiles in Poland is the biggest security threat to Russla in her history as it gives America first strike capabilities.

    Russia should do everything in their power to balance out this threat. Hopefully Europe wont be pressured to follow this mad strategy of America, once the phony american economy implodes

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/03/2008 8:06:38 PM

      These are anti-missiles, stupid. They can intercept very few not-so-sophisticated missiles from terrorists countries like Iran. It definitely can not intercept anything from Russia, unless terrorists in Russia steal and launch few nuclear missiles from there (quite possible, by the way). Only idiots with damaged pride or terrorists supporters can see a danger.

      • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/09/2008 10:00:36 AM

        "few (sophisticated or not) missiles" (maybe not VERY few, but few)...Well, it is exactly what would remain to russians after a first nuclea strike from USA . I do not think that subs would launch ANTI ballistic missiles (they would launch BALLISTIC -offensive missiles, and that applies to US and Russian "boomers"), so the GROUND-BASED antimissile systems WOULD do the difference between a "MAD-style" response and a "bearable" response from Russia . And NO ONE can assure NOBODY (russians or not) that those AM systems are aimed to stop IRANIAN (or NORTH KOREANS) missile THAT DO NOT EXIST...

      • Posted By: calliam @ 12/04/2008 2:01:14 AM

        bighappy,

        you don't understand how the shield works. It is virtually impossible (very hard) to intercept the missiles head on as the relative speed of approaching missile and interceptor is very large (sum of their speeds). However, it is much easier to catch up the missile moving in the same direction as the interceptor as the relative speed is small. So Poland is close to ideal place for interceptors to catch up on russian missiles flying to the US over the North Pole. Experts agree:

        http://cndyorks.gn.apc.org/yspace/articles/bmd/physicists_challenge.htm

        so, you can imaging a scenario that most of russian missile are destroyed by hundreds of cruise missiles launched from submarines and carriers surrounding russia, and the rest several dozen ones taken out by the interceptors. As far as 10 interceptors, it is only beginning. No time will be needed to double the capability. I don't think Iran is suicidal to take on the US if it could. So, the most logical explanation is that the US wants to put pressure on Russia for some purpose. Start thinking independently and read not only propaganda of US mass media.
        http://cndyorks.gn.apc.org/yspace/articles/bmd/physicists_challenge.htm

        • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/04/2008 10:06:41 PM

          You admitted by yourself - USA has hundreds anti-missiles on submarines and carriers, which are closer than Poland to the launch points. How few addition ones (which are more expensive, by the way) can tip a balance?? As for Iran - it is protection from it for Europe, not for USA, and because of it EU supports this plan. Putin desperately needs foreign enemies to keep you on short leash, and you obidiently seet and bark on the moon.

  • Posted By: Kuksha @ 12/01/2008 10:36:22 AM

    Misters! You are proud of the freedom and democracy, but we do not see your opinions on our sites - imperial arrogance or indifference? Or you consider the opinion as indisputable true.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/01/2008 9:37:23 PM

      Sorry, almost nobody here learns Russian. Probably no much use here for it?

      • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/09/2008 9:22:30 AM

        You do not know russian language ? Poor boy ! Tjhe more you know your enemy (language included), the more you are strong...
        You know why you are got caught in such a mess in Irak ? EVEN because there were no arab speaking translator in 2003..."leand & mean war machine" is not enough...
        And just to make thing easier for you, try to see "Russa today" (even on the web" . They speak a very good english, I swear...

  • Posted By: Lawpuh @ 12/01/2008 4:13:05 AM

    After bombing of Yugoslavia the NATO is not a defense alliance but rather aggressive union.
    This organization is not only a threat to Russia but a threat to Europe.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/01/2008 9:45:23 PM

      It looks Serbs are greatful for those bombings. Why do thry want to participate in EU and NATO, instead of Warsaw Pact?

      • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/09/2008 9:15:50 AM

        It looks Serbs are greatful for those bombings. Why do thry want to participate in EU and NATO, instead of Warsaw Pact?
        -
        Maybe because Warsaw Pact does not exist since almost 20 years...
        Serbia wants to join EU, but for NATO...Be happy if the Albanians will do... .

  • Posted By: zviad @ 11/30/2008 2:24:26 PM

    NATO doors are open to any country (including Russia). I have heard that from US officials a few times. A couple months ago, Rice repeated this again. However, requirements for joining NATO must be the same for Russia.
    Never since collapse of Soviet Union, has Russia showed its commitment to democracy or rule of law. Eltsin instigated 3 wars in Georgia in early nineties. Eltsin's Russia attempted to kill the president of Georgia (Shevardnadze) twice. Eltsin started the first Chechen war.
    Putin went far beyond Eltsin - the Second Chechen war (and hundreds of thousands civilan Chechen casualties), intimidation and murder of journalists, violent handling of discontent, ignoring of basic human rights and civil liberties, suppression of independent media and political opposition. Offering Russia NATO membership is not only dangerous, but immoral.
    The argument about braking promises not to expand NATO is Russia's lame attempt to stop evolution of democracy in former USSR. It is democracy in its "backyard" that Russian leadership really fears. Democracy in Georgia and Ukraine will one day spread to Russia. This means that Putin won't be able to hand-pick his successor or continue doing whatever he likes to do. Brainwashed public absorbs everything that state-controlled media says.
    Supporting democracy within Russia and in former Soviet states, accepting into NATO those who made significant progress is the right solution to prevent Russia's further aggression.

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 12/09/2008 9:07:55 AM

      Democracy in Georgia and Ukraine will one day spread to Russia.
      -
      I am not sure regarding Ucraine (even if president Yushenko insists to join NATO while 60 % of the population is stubbornly against this choice), but if a REALLY democratic Georgia is the worst nightmare of Puin, then, well, untill Sakashvili will be in power, russian premier can sleep like a child...

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/09/2008 4:18:33 AM

    hahah you two are so dillusional its sad really becasue nobody in America has any animosity towards Russia, in fact many Americans including myself are of Russian or part Russian decent. Your just not important, when any mention of Russia comes up all anyone thinks about is Rocky or Vodka im sorry but it is true. You have nothing to brag about at all and you keep saying that America collapse, Bighappy and I keep proving you wrong with imperical evidence and at least theoretical ideas and you just keep coming back with the same empty hatred and banter. I can admit America does some shaddy things but you two are stuck in the F-ing twilight zone.

  • Posted By: The genius @ 12/08/2008 2:03:57 PM

    Invest in economy which falls, percent now small-small and when hardly and investors lose the big percent then the dollar falls on a difference of rates of exchange! Strange employment. Who will not put in the USA, the USA will punish that, ?????????????????? acts of terrorism and local wars through the third hands.
    About it ask the American special services and other puppeteers from the USA.
    Return all debts as it was made by Russia and you at once learn the true sizes of economy. And these sizes are equal German.
    The Russian economy still ahead, poor has less, than you have written, Russian nano- technologies soon will, as Gagarin's flight, birth rate has replaced a trend on positive and so on.
    For the American policy the best decision to be engaged in own country. But they are engaged in capture of world supremacy for the sake of group of billionaires of the USA and compulsion to artificial, elaborate values of America. And the America about 200 years which is formed by the adventurers who have gathered from all world. And America learns the old states and people, which on some thousand years. And if they do not submit, arrange bloody wars or propagation against these countries.
    Amazes impudence in the countries of the former USSR, set fraternal people against each other, deceive, and anything strongly do not help, except for the weapon. America far, but learn, that people which a beside lived in friendship of hundred years, now should be divided.
    Stop to pull dolls. The god does not love theatre of puppets!

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/08/2008 10:40:48 PM

      "The Russian economy still ahead, poor has less, than you have written, Russian nano- technologies soon will, as Gagarin's flight, birth rate has replaced a trend on positive and so on. "??? What planet are you from? On this planet I did not see a single Russian item in stores (except Russian stores visited by only Russians), but plenty of Chiniese, and don't think it is because of discrimination - wheb comes to profit - capitalists overcome all barriers. Think of it, if you are capable of thinking, or keep dreaming and be proud.

  • Posted By: The genius @ 12/06/2008 3:54:11 AM

    Really, the policy of the USA is very bad. Both for the world and for middle class of the USA.
    The majority of the countries of the world hate the USA, but are afraid of it and consequently are silent. Russia does not hate the USA and not silent always. Russia speaks the facts. For me almost a riddle why the USA create an image of the enemy on behalf of Russia. Russia has the hugest resources in the world. It can a solution. In the USA the negative image of Russia is constantly created. The candidate for presidents of the USA cannot tell a good word about Russia if it will tell military, oil, information and other elites of the USA it is thrown off such candidate. In political and other elites there is a fashionable current to be engaged in racism in relation to Russia and Russian. However racism in relation to Jews and africans is pursued. This duplicity. When in the USA racism to any people, including to Russian will be condemned? Be not engaged in racism reaching oil and other riches of Russia.
    Russia does not want from the USA anything, except for trade and friendly meetings, however a reconstruction of traditions of fascism and prosecution of Russian to a national attribute in Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, to Georgia guards. These countries openly declare the submission in political, ideological, military areas of the USA. And simultaneously eulogize fascism, history of fascism, forbid to speak in Russian, pursue Russian in many spheres.
    Russian understand this phenomenon, as revival of racism and fascism in relation to Russian by means of the USA.
    IT IS VERY DANGEROUS! IT IS THE TERRIBLE MISTAKE OF THE AMERICAN POLITICIANS!

    Development of friendship and trade between the USA and Russia for some reason an interdiction of the American politicians. It is irrational fear since times of the Soviet communism. But the communism is already forgotten in Russia, in parliament only 12 percent of communists. All the same have very strongly intimidated in those days Americans threat of Russian communists, as till today of a mummy of Russian threats loom before eyes even the most influential and clever people of America.
    DO NOT LIVE PAST, DIFFERENTLY THE FUTURE WILL NOT COME!

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/06/2008 4:27:11 PM

      Believe me, nobody in USA menshions Russia for months (except short period of Gergia affairs). Even when Putin says something stupid - they provide this information without comments. Iran China are mentioned 100 times more often.

      • Posted By: The genius @ 12/07/2008 7:03:04 PM

        The American friend, I trust you. I and Russian people trust you and American people, but now Russian know, that there are in America special services and children of war. They are at war. These people submit to oil and military-technically rich people. Jokes of rockets and precepts of fairy tales on communistic Russia SHOULD DISAPPEAR. The USA should be able forget promptly, also as Russian have promptly forgotten communism (visit Russia and ask about communism and to you will burst out laughing with a capitalist smile!).

        • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/07/2008 11:04:23 PM

          What special sercices? Only they care is that Russian goverment was in control of their nukes (they know, by the way, that 90% of Russian rockets, left without proper maintenance for years, will not reach their destinations). Russia is the least concern of american military and "special services", except their involvement with Iran (it were also Yugoslavia and Irac - no more concerns). I repeat again, Russia is irrelevant for US now. If little dog barks on elefant - why elefant should pay attention?

          • Posted By: The genius @ 12/08/2008 6:15:02 AM

            Look at a geographical card. Who is the elephant and who is small? Russia has sold Alaska through corruption American officials, has presented Ukraine territory of Crimea, even uniform people have divided into three states: Russia, Belarus, Ukraine. But also now Russia is the greatest country. And if you consider, that the American economy the strongest. The answer such: it is temporary. It is a deceit of figures, it is advertising of . In history there were also other strong economy (Roman empire, Holland, England, etc.). Is corrected bar none, that at top it is impossible to be eternally. If you consider, that the American army the strongest it is delirium. It chooses weak opponents. Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Panama, Grenada.
            Russian nuclear rockets do not rust, as well as Kalashnikov's automatic device. Russian army with the old usual weapon in current of five days has crushed the Georgian army which five years was trained and armed with the new weapon.

            • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/08/2008 10:11:10 PM

              Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is your problem - you prefer to look at the map instead of mirror. What is Russian population, 140 millions? Down from 150 million 20 yars ago. You size is killing you. Your rockets probably are not rusty, but rocke is not a knife, stupie, it is very compex electonics, pneumatics etc., mostly outdated on strategivc rockets (don't feel insulted, american's are too), and they require periodical chek-ups and even small repairs. As for your Red Army (sorry, but ot did not change from USSR times, the same slaves) - Ino surprize it overvelmed tiny Georgia (I think, by the way, thet Russians were right to punish Georgian psychotics and parasites) but managed to lose 2-3 times more soldgers than ill-trained Georgians. I know, Russia has many good features, but you are systematically suppressing or eliminating them (it is mystery here why, may be it is russian nature?) and prefer dictate, confrontation and oppression.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/08/2008 7:28:33 AM

    Everytime I hear Putin talk he is bitching about the US...and you people eat it all up, maybe you should look at yourselves instead of blaming everybody else for your problems.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/08/2008 7:22:16 AM

    The US does not need to pay off external debts! Other countries love US debt because it pays % and is a safe place to keep reserves. How is the Russian economy self-sustainable? Unless you consider 1/3 of the population below the poverty line sustainable? I didnt make that up Mr. Mirinov brought that before your parliment and your official statistics are laughable because they are so misleading. Meanwhile the difference in wealth between Russian poorest 10% and the richest 10% increases every year from 13.9 to 16.8 times since 2000. Your entire economy is based on other people using fuel! You have a shrinking population and no innovative domestic industry. Britain has a higher debt ratio than the US and nobody is talking about them dissovling. Canada was scared into thinking the same thing about their debt in the 90's and nothing happened.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/08/2008 6:57:28 AM

    your pathetic you say America chooses weak targets what about (Japan and Germany) at then brag about defeating Gerogia???
    How is the American economy not the strongest? You people all say the same thing over and over again but wqith no imperical evidence? Look at my last post you may learn something. I do admit America as the strongest economy may only be temporary I do agreee with history, but look at your examples, those countries remained the most powerfull for hundereds (England) sometimes thousands (Rome) of years. America has only been a superpower for about 60, dont hold your breath waiting for our collapse. Today it is not about the biggest guns, when will you Russians realize this. Your Kalshnikove is usefull for African tribes no one else. It is about smart technology you are living in a delusional world. Just like your people thought during the cold war that you had the best technology, your state propaganda is at it again.

  • Posted By: The genius @ 12/08/2008 6:51:36 AM

    I do not understand, how the USA will pay off on external debts. 11 billion dollars. As them to give, if the duty all increases and increases, America consumes more, than makes. Now here crisis. 700 billion fur-tree have typed from all world, but it will be necessary more and more. It is a situation of a stalemate which cannot will end with drinking of tea and friendly smiles, and will end with scale devaluation of dollar (in 2-3 times), essential decrease in consumption in the USA, economic chaos in the countries loving dollar. Russia is self-sufficient in financial affairs, and the USA it is necessary to remove a general uniform and will dress a grade of the lieutenant of the world finance.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/08/2008 5:38:52 AM

    Here is the bottom line for all you hoping that America will fall due and be subserviant to Russia and the Chinese due to this economic downturn. China needs America more that America needs China. (Why do you think the Chinese have raised their currency value at Paulson's request over the last 2 years by over 15%). China is meanwhile struggling to keep their currency de-valued because they are losing their competetive edge to other South Asian producers. Americans and Europeans are saving more and the Chinese are still buying Dollars as is most of the world because it is still the safe heaven for currency. As long as dollars are bought the US will build infastructure (Obamas new plan) and much like WWII that will bring the US and the rest of the World out of this recession, hopefully without the death and destruction. The Chinese have no choice, they cant invest in Europe becasue the situation is worse or at least more ambigious because the EU cant agree on anything. They cant invest in themselves too heavily becasue their currecny will rise and Chinese products will become less competitive amongst the Asian producers. Hence why their bailout was so small to their relative size and economy. That leaves Russia not even mentioned or important because it really isnt. Their economy is not big enough and their shrinking population and dependency on commodities does not make their currency attractive. Hence why they are hanging out with the "rejects" of the world, (Venezeula).

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/08/2008 4:38:21 AM

    Russia peaked in 1900

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