Russia: Ease Moscow’s Suspicions

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  • Posted By: Glenno @ 12/05/2008 5:02:44 PM

    The only reason you only know of Russia in Venezuela is that your "free press" only mention this because Americans think Chaves is a dictator.
    Medvedev also went on to Brazil for new deals (Russians do not require visa for Brazil, Americans do)/
    As for Russia and China, look up how their trade doubles every year (higher rate than America).
    South America is mostle trade for Russia. But of course they whould flex military muscles.

    America is not a country that respects international law and has made it clear they dont need to take Russias security concerns into consideration. I hope Russia place nukes in Venezuela as then they can negotiate for the Americans to take away their missiles in Poland.

    By the way, America is the only country that has ttravel restrictions in their citizens to not be able to go to Cuba. USSR placed nukes on Cube to negotiate the removal of US nukes in Turkey, and Cuba allowed it as a response and protection from the American invasion attempt.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/05/2008 7:36:07 PM

      All greatness of current Russia is the "greatness" of barbarian sitting in a dirty hole with big bomb and threatening to blew up himself with neighbours, unless they feed him. And you are impersonating this barbarian here.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/05/2008 10:53:22 AM

    I dont listen to you. Your so sad I hope America does falter and all your dreams come true but your success is not going to be based on America failling. Putin has not created a middle class of any respectible standard. The Russian economy has experienced short term growth due to the over inflated price of commodities. Hence the *** mess they are in now (their stock market cant even stay open for 2 days in a row)
    Google is not a scholarly source bud. If America is 53 in terms of free press than Russia is -54645 remember that chess player (cant remember his name) ?
    People are still buying US T notes look at the dollar compared to the GBP and Euro recently! How do you explain the confidence in Treas notes if everyone thinks the US is about to collapse?
    You seem to be really upset about this missle shield and maybe your right. It could be another of many unilateral moves by the Bush admin. Hopefully Obama will re-visit the issue but if the kremlin could get away with the same kinda thing they would be all over it (Cuba).
    Imperial disaster of a country? Statements like that just take away from your points because your obvious jelousy and bitterness shine through. America has been a beacon of success and freedom for many European, S. American and Asian countries. Once you look past the freedom fries and patriotic uncle sam BS it is obvious that America isnt an evil satanic cult like you seem to think.
    Nobody is turning away from America anytime soon and I wouldnt hold your breath for the end of this "imperial empire" Look at the news America was working with China today while the Russian fleet is in Venezuala of all places, the next over priced commodity disaster. Chavez is about to lose power because his whole platform has been on anti-americanism which is starting to be seen as a cover up for all his B.S. (bet he wanted Mccain to win as I am sure you did!) Its pathetic really that Russia is shipping their fleet from 1982 to S. America in an attmept to flex their "military muscle"

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 12/05/2008 9:47:27 AM

    Dont listen to me, listen to your leaders. Brzezinski was J.Carters adviser and now Obama's top advisor. He wrote a book in 97' "the grand chessboard". To sum it up quickly, whoever controls Eurasia controls the world and Americas key to world hegemony (remaining a world dictator) is to prevent any other power to emerge. Russia is named the main threat because their regional power threaten American global control. The strategies he wrote has been the policy of America: encircle Russia with NATO countries, with the goal of destabilising Russia and "balcanize" it into 3 smaller controlable nations.

    If you dont think Putin created a big middle class, then I cant help you. Just read a book or some simple facts.

    Regarding America as number 53 in free press in the world, just do a simple google search.

    America owes 11 trillion to the world and has no possibilities of paying back. Why else would Sarkozy and other world leaders now denounce the dollar as the reserve currency? Bretton Woods is dead and Americas free ride has come to an end.

    Why does US force NATO on Ukraine when 75% there want nothing to do with NATO?

    Why did the US satelite state Georgia attack South Ossetia? (even Sakashvilli have admited this now)

    Why is US building nuclear missile shield in Poland And Czech Republic when there is an overwhelming majority there that is against it?

    If America has 80 billion in trade deficit and owe the world over 11 trillion, how can you seriously claim that the US economy is sustainable? (debt and consumption?)

    America has isolated itself and now that South America, Russia and Europe is finally turning away from America and China will stop financing your Empire, then it is finally over for that imperial disaster of a country

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/05/2008 9:42:39 AM

    by the way the Russian stock market is down 75% on the year, Amercian market down nearly 40% Enough said

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/05/2008 9:29:41 AM

    Where is this Russian middle class you speak of. You must be Russian because you are so simple minded and one sided and seem to be buying all of their propaganda your poor fool. Many western contries are consumption economies look at Britian! They have a higher debt ratio than America and they still live pretty good. Yes America is not a producer but a service company half of the fortune 1000 multinationals are American so I think Americas business is very diverse and spread around the world. America isnt going to attack Russia dont let your bs media fighten you into this crap. Nobody cares about Russia and nobody has any hatred for them either, get over it your not that important! You no so little about economics its frightening! The liquidity is there it just is yet to be freed up, that is due to low confidence in the market which will return and loans will be once again made available. Why is it that you never respond directly to points in others' posts? All you do is re-phrase your same sad argument over and over again.

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 12/05/2008 9:14:51 AM

    If you think America behaves arrogant today, then how do you think they would behave against Russia when a missile shield would be in place and America would have first strike capabilities. Russia would have to subdue to all American pressure.

    Yeltsin was Americas wet dream, he sold all the wealth to a few gangsters who sold in to the americans. Putin put the natural resources back into the state and built a huge middle class where the economy can now diversify.

    America has a phony economy because the economy is based on 70% consumption and they need to lend money from the rest of the world to continue this fake economy, America does NOT produce anything anymore which is obvious from a 800 billion trade deficit. The ONLY reason America doesn not look like a hyperinflated Zimbabwe today is that the dollar has been the reserve currency, that will change now that the world is sick of paying for Americas over consumption. With no new loans and no reserve currency the printing press will destroy the currency and hopefully drag the Empire's war machine with it down the tube.

    The point of a missile shield is to prevent a retaliation from Russia if America attacks.
    Why is US forcing NATO on Ukraine? Us Europeans should dump the dollars as currency, stay away from any american product, build closer relationship with Russia and China, accept that America belongs to the past and take a step away from the aggressive imperial militaristic empire

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/05/2008 4:32:10 AM

    Glenno your mad brother! "Russias foreign policy is to cooporate peacfully " ?!? How could you make such a blank statement? Do you even read what you post here. You are so bitter and jelous its fu#%in sad. Dont feel bad for Americans we are too busy feeling bad for the Russians who live in poverty except the 10 or so oligarchs that rule the counrty. By the way how do you think the Russian elite got wealthy? It was privitization under Yeltsin, who declared himself BORIS the 1st (whos fascist again)?. Lets not talk about corruption. Our media is ranked 53rd ? Where did you get this from? Thats laughable, we dont all watch FOX news! We dont care about Russia at all like I said their economy is fake - its based on petrol dollars and Natural gas, not very stable. America has the most tech. advanced and diversified economy in the world. There were many bubbles before the tech and housing bubble and America and the world seemed to make it through those, do you read history at all? Bubbles are not good but they are not going to destroy the country, are you crazy? Thanks for your advice but I live in London right now and dont have a problem telling people I'm American and they dont seem to mind either so maybe you should get F@#$ed.

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 12/03/2008 8:32:18 PM

    If US attacks Russia with nuclear weapons the missile shield can prevent a retaliation of what remains of Russia, this gives US a first strike capability. Even US generals have made this point to avoid de-stabilisation.

    and for DrewCAENG:
    The financial crisis is a crisis startet in the US. America have based the economy on debt and spending, and it is coming to a collapse. My point is that after the dollar is declared dead it would be in Europes interest to take Russia???s advice on a multipolar world based on international law rather than the global dictatorship of US.
    I dont think Obama will be any different, he takes his advice from Brzezinski. Brzezinski has made it clear that a growing Russia is a threat to American hegemony and most be fought by encircling and isolating Russia. And we can see that obama does question the American Empire or the continued aggression against Russia. And Europe will not sacrifice their security just so that America can cling on to their global dictatorship for a couple of more years.
    The Marshal plan was a long time ago. Despite what you learn in American schools it was not purely a ???gift???. It had the conditions of opening up markets to an america who had improved technology, newly emerged big companies and a good economy. America still benefots from that, and there is nothing wrong with mutual benefits. But to think that any country that doesnt subordinates itself to America is anti-American is just a proof of what a propaganda state you are living in.
    Who is the aggressor?
    US places missiles in Poland
    US desperately want Ukraine into NATO even though neither Europe, Ukraine (75%) or Russia wants it
    US gave green light for Georgias genocide
    US been bombing Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Pakistan in the last months

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/04/2008 10:12:16 PM

      Who wants to attack you?! No industrial country would agree to except Riussian surrender and occupy Russia, it is too expensive.
      It is Chinese who who you should be very afraid of, they are infiltrating Russia in millions now,

    • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/04/2008 8:47:17 AM

      The crisis started in the US but many European banks were also responsible and even more over-levereged than in the US (RBS etc...) Russia is of little concern to the US, there entire economy is based on nat. gas and oil, much like Dubai great for the short term...risky in the long term. Nobody wants to nuke anybody not the US nor Russia so get over this whole attitude of the big bad US bombing everyone who gets in their way. The Marshall plan had conditions opening up Europe to America really?? Thats interesting becasue the Marshall plan stipulated that only Europeans could take part and all companies and workers would be owned and controlled in Europe. Dont do the typical propoganda state crap then go on to say how evil the US is when many eastern countries arent even allowed access to the internet. Your examples of US agression (and I will be the 1st to admit do happen) are fairrly one sided my friend...go back to your last post and read those 4 points at the bottom and ask yourself if geo-politics is really that balck and white? Once again another zealot floundering on gleefull anticipation of some "US fall from grace" and regurgitating the same stereotypes and empty points!

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 12/03/2008 7:16:38 PM

    One simple FACT: US placing missiles in Poland is the biggest security threat to Russla in her history as it gives America first strike capabilities.

    Russia should do everything in their power to balance out this threat. Hopefully Europe wont be pressured to follow this mad strategy of America, once the phony american economy implodes

  • Posted By: Verbatim128 @ 12/03/2008 6:32:35 PM

    One would have to glean the wisdom of the author's title from the shallow depths of the article itself. It surely doesn't "ease" Moskow's suspicions.

    The Herter professor of American foreign policy ought to know that fairness is the first thing the Russians, and by that I mean first the population and second their government, would welcome before their suspicions
    could ease.

    To quote this from the article makes me uneasy too: "To the Kremlin, the expansion process has also
    seemed to be based on dishonest premises. U.S. officials advertised it as a way of promoting democracy, of forcing ex-Soviet states to reform."
    The Kremlin had invented the false pretenses of "promoting democracy" and "liberating" other peoples as dishonest premises to their expansion process of communism, long before their intelligence was insulted by the US claims that NATO expansion was all for the sake of promoting democracy. And the Soviet Union knew all about doing it well and good: by occupation.
    So why would they fall for the lame American false pretense and the use of the Soviet trade-marked dishonest premises?
    Oh, by the way, the first ex-communist entrants to NATO mentioned by the author, had not exactly ever been
    ex-Soviet states, so why mention them almost in the same breath, if not to show how loose the American foreign policy concepts are at the School of Advanced(?) International Studies.

    But the rest of the article, the review of the "options" simply blows the mind. It seems that the only reason America should not urgently consider Georgia's membership in NATO is that ''"the US military is already seriously overstretched by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yet doing nothing would look like a retreat in the face of Russian aggression.""
    How is that for easing Moskow's suspicions? Just as more and more of the facts about who started the war in Georgia ,and by what means, are coming out.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 12/03/2008 7:27:40 AM

    your a moron glenno get your head out of your ass. Every European leader was basically stumbling over each other to be first in line to suck off Obama. IF America is on the decline that means the EU and Russia is in even worst shape, where are you getting your info from thin air or are you just one of the endless AntiAmerican everything zealots who fail to take into consideration the evils of nearly every country including their own and yes, ths US. You gleefully watch our stuggling economy not realizing that the EU is in worst shape. By the way if it wasnt for the Mashall plan you wouldnt even have a computer to type on buddy

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 12/02/2008 10:28:38 PM

    For America, the cold war never ended. America has broken all deals and pushed NATO on to Russia???s border. America destroyed Yugoslavia and bombed Serbia. Used terrorism as an excuse to spread military bases across the world and staged coups all over Eurasia. If America builds the missile shield to get first strike capabilities on Russia, then Europe should stand by Russia against an aggressive nuclear American attack. Otherwise Russia will be forced to place nuclear weapons in Kaliningrad and latin America. Russia should also consider the option of giving nuclear weapons to Iran in its last desperate attempt to prevent an American attack. It is good to see that Europe is learning now and we can see that countries are finally coming together to take a stand against america

  • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/02/2008 7:54:14 PM

    Dear Russian friends. Please use shorter sentenses or more familiar (for you) words, because nobody understands your point. Or write in Russian, I promise I will translate.

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 12/02/2008 3:22:34 PM

    At the NATO summit Rice "warned" NATO against coser relationship with Russia. america is dead weight, we need to get close to Russia and China, leave the imperial militaristic America behind us as they finally go under.

  • Posted By: sovietarmy132 @ 12/02/2008 2:59:22 PM

    like 9/11 jealous of our freedom i cant belive you bought that excuse. rocking a flag dont make you a hero.

  • Posted By: thetruth666 @ 12/02/2008 2:50:48 PM

    OBAMA is just a puppet taking orders on a cellphone. quit letting the corporate media tell lies to your children. they want to keep your minds focused on this B/S. this *** is run by free masons. bunch of fake christians fake politicians. you really think america cares what you think. martial law coming to the hood soon to kill you. why dont you all just shut it and go back to work you slaves. working your whole life wondering where the day went. i get unemployment you work and we making the same ***. you people swallow propaganda like a birth control pill selling your soul to the eye on the back of the dollar bill.

  • Posted By: thetruth666 @ 12/02/2008 2:49:55 PM

    OBAMA is just a puppet taking orders on a cellphone. quit letting the corporate media tell lies to your children. they want to keep your minds focused on this B/S. this *** is run by free masons. bunch of fake christians fake politicians. you really think america cares what you think. martial law coming to the hood soon to kill you. why dont you all just shut it and go back to work you slaves. working your whole life wondering where the day went. i get unemployment you work and we making the same ***.

  • Posted By: NEWORLDORDER @ 12/02/2008 2:37:43 PM

    listen you ignorant humans. you think russia is a threat come on now the UNITED STATES ALREADY OWNS RUSSIA. Just like they own everything else the only people left is CHINA which have the same amount of nuclear weapons as the united states. you think all those defensive missiles are for russia? its aimed at CHINA you idiots. after they take over china they will declare the NEW WORLD ORDER. world domination you really think they give a *** about a few poor russians with a few AK's?

  • Posted By: advoidleftists @ 12/02/2008 7:42:19 AM

    Russia can not be trusted at all they are aggressor and their aims is to hurt other countries because for past years they been bullying nations around them of course they want to join nato because it seems that those nations has no rights because russia says so? The real threat may not be middle east but russia itself i mean look at it i mean its dictatorship now and they go around giving military weapons of destruction to rogue nations but they get mad we do it to poland and other countries excuse me russia you cant be going around selling offensive weapons and get mad because we build defensive system design shoot down missles nearing the land ummmmm how threatening can that be this is all bully by russia and france and germany want to appease russia but europe has appease in the past and ww2 erupted. Keep appeaseing russia and USA have to bail you appeaseing europeans out because cost of peace shouldnt be cost of your freedom but i guess leftist parties in europe that rule half these nations all about appeasement but those countries that border russia well thats different story they know better not to appease.

    • Posted By: Kuksha @ 12/02/2008 9:06:00 AM

      Name though one big or world war untied by Russia.

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 12/01/2008 5:08:42 PM

    Europe will hopefully soon cut off America and seek closer relationship with Russia. As American power diminishes we will no longer be used as a tool against Russia

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