Mutual Mistrust

The mistrust you are talking about goes centuries back. Hindus have always been known to be cunning and good with deception. On the other hand Muslims have always been known to be volatile, at least in India. The hundred years of the British Raj did much to deepen the divide by favoring Hindus over Muslims. The result was that come partition Hindus were better educated, better placed and better equipped industrially. The unjust partition allowing Kashmir to go to India created bitterness among Pakistanis, which was exacerbated by Indian use of force in Kashmir, which also entailed an influx of refugees from Kashmir. The international community, especially the US who had "inherited" its position from Britain through the stepping stone strategy, sided with India. This indeed gives Pakistanis a sense of being at a disadvantage, which the terrorists have often tried to exploit.
Later the hijacking of the Indian plane Ganga in early 1971, by some "Kashmiri freedom fighters", allowed India to enforce a ban on Pakistani flights over it. This turned out to be a deciding factor in the ensuing war between the two nations. Pakistani sources claim that those "freedom fighters" were Indian agents. The terrorist attacks such as the one on ???Samjhota Express??? and the one on the Indian Parliament are shrouded in the mist of India leveling accusations and Pakistan asking for proofs. In this more recent Bombay carnage, again Lashkar-e-Taiba is named. Indian description of the route the miscreants took is fraught with problems. One of the major questions seems to be, was the largest navy of that region sleeping when all this happened? Again all the Indian Govt. has done is accuse and ask for a pre-drawn list of suspects.
Now none of the recent actions of India Govt. seem conducive to promoting trust. What is worse the international community appears to be siding with India. I think Pakistanis are demonstrating a level of maturity quite unexpected of them, by neither complaining nor resorting to blame mongering. I think the world; especially the western powers should rethink their anti-Islamic stance and move to solve the real problem between the two nations. An amicable solution of the Kashmir problem could not only help the peace process between the two countries in can also promote world peace.
Muhammad

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I hate to sound like a neocon, but folks in western countries should realize that the vision and scope of Islamic terrorists are much larger - establishment of Islamic Caliphate and sharia . Iam talking from an oriental perspective, hence whatever I say may sound hyperbolic to you folks, but trust me, the eastern civilization is seriously afflicted by the cancer of Islamic terrorism. You folks need to wake up before it metastasizes to geographically isolated North America. Constantly living under terror in spite of giving substantial constitutional protection to muslims is happening in India which has a cosmopolitan society like USA??? ergo you guys may wake up to the same problems down the lane. Poverty and appalling living conditions are just convenient excuses propped up by muslims to justify these atrocities. Homegrown terrorists from UK and spate of recent arrests of highly educated young muslims in India shows that education and economic prosperity are no insurance against them turning into terrorists.

Even moderate muslims refuse to believe that the way Islam is practiced now is based on primitive ideology suited for 10th century. Across the globe, mosques and madrassas are instilling a sense of revenge by gloating over past Islamic superiority and cry of 'discrimination of muslims' and to kill Kafirs . Muslims are incapable of being model minorities in any culture where they have substantial presence. Pan islamic aspiration will explain the secessionist tendencies in each and every provinces where muslims become majority. The story gets repeated in Chechnya, Xinjian Ugyghur, Philippiness, Kashmir, Palestine and innumerable hot spots across Asia and Africa. Unfortunately there is no effective strategy to fight this. Muslim religion is so adept at provoking the primal sense of kafirs vs. muslims.

It's hard to keep reading these analyses that have failed to mention the motives of Al Queda to take the heat off their home base on the border. They are caught in a classical military maneuver, the pincer. The US and its rockets on one side and the aggressive Pakistani army on the other. What would be a good counter? Create a diversion - another classic military maneuver. It was a very low cost, low risk strategy. Send ten commandos obviously from Pakistan to an unguarded Mumbai and force India to confront Pakistan. Then Pakistan has to redeploy its army to the other side of the country. That's called a military success.
Wasn't it Napoleon who said the secret to success was to get the enemy to do what you wanted?
Indeed, India and Pakistan should do the opposite by recognizing they are being manipulated by a common enemy and avoid the trap.

Unless the new generation muslims will learn that 21st century is different, that you will have to co exist with other cultures and you cannot be the masters all the time, the world is in for a bleak future. Try to understand that when billions of people belonging to various religions coexists, there will be problems and the way out of it is not going on rampage, killing innocent civilians and crying foul at the other religions when they try to respond with force.

Muslims should start adopting birth control, there by escaping ghetto poverty. Having 5 wives and 20 kids means more mouths to feed and fewer resources for rest of the world. Don???t be under the illusion that you will be able to rule the earth by out populating others. Please try to understand that Kafirs have equal right to live in this earth and earth wont be a better place unless you guys become receptive to modern ideas instead of endlessly listening to sermons from mosques.

I wont be surprised if muslims in USA will demand secession of Dearbon, citing discrimination by federal govt after breeding to a critical population mass in another 10- 15 yrs. You can call me a hater, but after co existing with muslims for 50 years in India, I am sure that a substantial majority of muslims will place their religion over their home country. Something is certainly rotten with the Islamic ideology, period.
Look at the freaks in the posts here trying to justify Islamic terrorism - this shows the ' moderate face of Islam !!

The atrocities in Mumbai committed by ten terrorists were solely in the name of those who committed them and not in the name of Islam so perfidiously portrayed by the Indian and Western media. What possible benefit could Pakistan have achieved out of this barbarity when its??? own people in thousands have been killed and murdered by the same terrorists whose origin is still a guess work? As result, its??? economy is in ruin and country is going down the drains politically and socially. Indian intelligence services had every possible information that a terrorist attack on Mumbai was imminent and even the CIA warned them on the forthcoming threat but the Central and Maharashtra government blinded itself wearing blinkers and allowed the horrendous crime to happen. Either it was deliberate abject failure, a sheer incompetence or was a deliberate attempt to ignore the intelligence provided by international intelligence agencies to manipulate the aftermath of terrorist attack for political gains and losses by the political parties before the incoming general election.

And why it is that Mumbai is always a soft target for these terrorists? With the citizens of Bombay getting rebellious and disgruntled with the provincial and central government and still mopping up the blood on their streets, railway stations and counting the corpses in their hotels, the Indian government was and is so impetus to blame Pakistan for the last week's terror attacks without any concrete evidence except what is coming out of the mouth of the captured terrorist? Is the word of a criminal and a terrorist is to believed to put India on war footing with its nuclear neighbour than to trust the Pakistan government? Indian politicians and their parties are itching to start a war against Pakistan to win the next incoming general election and kill thousands of innocent people on both sides of the border. This is real and not a silly joke: India and Pakistan have gone to war three times since the 1947 partition. The prospect of another war in the sub-continent is far horrendous and chilling to imagine with the mushroom clouds of death and destruction dwarfing the horrors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Indian politicians should speak, behave and act responsibly and stop being selfish and silly for the sake of wining their constituencies in the next general election. Pakistan is suffering even worse atrocities because of a lot of terrorism inflicted on its territory is originated in foreign lands but it does not accuse India or indulges in childish ???blame game??? as the Indian government jump from their backsides.

Pakistan can never trust India, coz of wat they did in 71 breaking our country into two, then what it is doing in Balochistan and FATA, and currently in Karachi, imagine the day it happened in Mumbai, exactly same kind of events were precipitated by India in Karachi.

Indians should first stop killing sikhs, muslims and christians in their country and then blame some one else. Atleast there is no communal violence and religious hatred in Pakistan as is in so called secular India.

For the triumph of evil it is necessary that concerned people, parties and politicians around the world do nothing "

I as a concerned citizen of the United States of America and World. I do not justify and like any evil acts of terror and terrorism. As a psychiatrist I can say that as a consequence of occupation, suppression, alienation, victimization, degradation, desperation, helplessness, hopelessness, and depression the ordinary people are led to suicide.In the process, some times, they are driven to the evil acts and spread their pain and apathy around as they have resorted to these evil acts over centuries. We should not forget the plight of Kashmiris, Palestinians, and many more people around the world at the hands of state sponsored terror and terrorism as perpetuated by India in Kashmir and Israel in Palestine. These kind of situations result in these heinous and evil acts around the world. Do not expect U.S.A. and president elect Obama to do much about it. It is Global problem and all concerned people, parties, and politicians need to think out of
box and address these issues candidly and openly without shifting blame around. I suggest the President Elect Obama appoint Hon. former President Bill Clinton to resolve Kashmir issue between Kashmiris, Indians, and Pakistan and out going president Hon. George W Busy to resolve Palestinian issue between Is israel and Palestinian authorities as that has his goal to do so before he passes on the presidency onto president elect Obama.

Yours Truly,


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i have asked for an explanation from indians on many discussion forums but i dont see it....my question is this:
the samjhota train was blamed on pakistan. the evidence was binding and clinching, or so said the indian media. it comes out later on that the perpetrator was an indian colonel. 67 pakistanis died in that incident. no one in pakistan started hollering about blaming india.
what has happened could be another samjhota express. or is the point that indian extremists can kill in samjhota express but not in mumbai? that they can burn 2000 people in gujrat but not in mumbai? that they can burn churches but not the Taj? that they can attack christains and churches but not jews? whats the logic behind that?

i still dont understand.....indians, kindly reply to this.

what about the damned samjhota express?

why is it that on all forums indians are going on and on about this and that. why has none of them mentioned the samjhota express incident? on all forums pakistanis talk about the samjhota express but no indian replies.

humble pie apparantly doesnt have a good taste.

(and mr. vinod, pakistan may be a basket case, but why doesnt india get along with china, bangladesh, nepal, sri lanka and pakistan, i. e. all its neighbours? they all must be basket cases as well. since you seem to know everything, you explain the samjhota express incident. and write less, one gets bored reading essays)

During the Recent past , as a result of Musharraf???s dialogue with India, Pakistan did clamp down on Jahaidi activity and this was evident from the significant reduction of ???incidents??? in held Kashmir, unfortunately the expected peace dividend did not happen,. The occupied Kashmiris did not feel a reduction in the Indian repression, rapes, and killings continued unabated. Musharraf had linked Pakistani action with Indian restrain in occupied Kashmir , that part India did not deliver .RAW is active all over South Asia including Sri Lanka . Perhaps the Indians need to have a major revision in their policies .Kashmir needs to be solved and India has to refrain from making mischief in neighbouring countries