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United States of Africa

Unity on the continent is a dream that's still within reach, says official.

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  • Posted By: jilliancnowlin @ 12/04/2008 11:18:03 AM

    There are many points from this article with Chairman Jean Ping that I could agree with; however, there are quite a few points which leave me concerned.

    First, while I am a huge supporter of African Unity, as I believe a unified Africa would benefit the continent in terms of power on the international stage, I believe that those who would like to see a United States of Africa in 3 years or even 9 years, are getting way ahead of themselves. I whole-heartedly believe in the African Union, but we must be honest and realize that it does not nearly have the power with which a Union of its description or mission should have. Merely look at the plethora of conflicts there are on the continent currently and the inability of the AU forces whether it be physically or monetarily to support their causes without the support of the EU or UN. I would like to see an AU that can support itself before people start talking about binding all 53 countries together economically, socially, and politically.

    Also, I am disappointed with Chairman Ping's response to an indictment against Sudan's Omar Bashir. His nuanced denial of genocide in the Sudan smacks of the same nepotism that has plagued Africa for decades. I can understand his hesitation at preferring to handle this issue with kid gloves; however, if any other president knew about groups of militiamen killing innocent people they would be heavily criticized by the world and expected to protect its people and rectify the situation. Why hasn't the same been expected of this man? One might say it has now that the ICC wants to charge him with crimes against humanity, but if world leaders deny the validity of this claim it sets a precedence that all leaders can turn their heads when these atrocities happen.

    I would love to see a unified Africa, but I think there should be an improvement of what currently exists before any other measures are taken.


    Jillian Nowlin
    Graduate Student
    NYU African Studies Dept.

    • Posted By: red77egg7 @ 01/30/2009 1:39:06 AM

      Of all people, I though a graduate in Africa Studies would be a person who would be like Col. Quaddafi of Libya; insist on immediate integration. I did quite a bit of reading on the subject of uniting Africa and ran upon quite a few views which are the same as your. One who support the idea of a united Africa but see it as something in the future. This I cannot understand. Why wait? I can not understand the idea of waiting? Again, why wait. I must admit that quite a few African???s Leaders also favor a slow process and waiting until the problem are solved What the purpose of uniting if Africa did not have any problems.

      I must admit that I am likd Col. Gaddafi, unite now, unite yesterday. I donot want to see Africa get robbed again. Africa got robbed when Dr. Kwane Nkrumah was assassinated.

      A united Africa will give the poor Countries of Africa a chance to develop and prosper under a united banner. A chance to achieve what they were not able achieve as a separate Country.

      Please note my posting dated 12/15/08 - red77egg7
      Ernest

    • Posted By: Nkundarahamwe @ 12/04/2008 2:18:08 PM

      Your comments are msot soder and they are welcome. I am also very much given to the idea of a united Africa, to those that are vain hearted we already have the East Africa coorporation, ECOWAS, SADC and we have a central African body too and all that means that we are mving to that direction.
      Having said that we need to pull the most of Africans to that direction so that we have a majority that supports the idea.

  • Posted By: nobala @ 12/01/2008 6:19:32 PM

    Forming the United States of Africa must become a priority in this generation. It was the wish of men like Kwame Nkuruma who said that, "The independence of Ghana had no meaning if it did not translate into the freedom of all Africa". The colonial borders we so faithfuly defend have become colonial prisons for our peple. Europe has dismantled most of its original borders in order to bring about peace. Why should we continue to die for borders we never created. I suggest that the BIG FIVE: South Africa, Egypt, Nigeria, Senegal, and Ethiopia set the pace for this urgent mission. The Africans of the Diaspora need to unite in order to influence the governments that colonized Africa and still hold a grip on the lands they mortgaged to themselves. Unity was the Spirit of PanAfricanism and that is why Dr. WB DuBoise died in Africa hoping for this Union. The Berlin wall is gone and Africa's time has come. Let us bring an end to the senseless wars that have caused so much suffering while war mongers and killers hide behind the shadow of "National Sovereignity." Now is the time.

    • Posted By: red77egg7 @ 01/30/2009 1:07:22 AM

      I agree. See my posting dated 12/15/08 - red77egg7
      Ernest

    • Posted By: red77egg7 @ 01/30/2009 1:01:23 AM

      I agree. See my posting dated 12/15/08 - red77egg7.
      Ernest

  • Posted By: red77egg7 @ 12/15/2008 10:28:12 PM

    If an United States Of Africa is Created, this in itself will be like a miracle and the African people shall rejoice and be glad in it. They can develop new hope and idea for the future. They can realize that THEY AND NOT FOREIGNERS HAVE A COUNTRY TO BUILD.

    Africans can learn how to have RESPECT and Dignity for their Country. Africans can generate a new attitude and pride in their Country. This is what creating a United States of Africa is all about. NEW HOPE IF NOTHING ELSE. And Africa can use plenty of new hope.

    THE IDEA IS FOR AFRICA TO SOLVE all OF ITS PROBLEMS together AS ONE NATION. THE UNITED STATES OF AFRICA. And this needs no additional studies. Like Nike say's JUST DO IT. Africans need to get away from begging for Foreign Aid, begging like a dog. Trying to go it alone as one Country is no way to go. Then again, trying to go it alon as one Country, they can not do anything but beg beg like a dog. Africans must unite as one one Nation.

  • Posted By: red77egg7 @ 12/15/2008 10:23:34 PM

    If an United States Of Africa is Created, this in itself will be like a miracle and the African people shall rejoice and be glad in it. They can develop new hope and idea for the future. They can realize that THEY AND NOT FOREIGNERS HAVE A COUNTRY TO BUILD.

    Africans can learn how to have RESPECT and Dignity for their Country. Africans can generate a new attitude and pride in their Country. This is what creating a United States of Africa is all about. NEW HOPE IF NOTHING ELSE. And Africa can use plenty of new hope.

    THE IDEA IS FOR AFRICA TO SOLVE all OF ITS PROBLEMS together AS ONE NATION. THE UNITED STATES OF AFRICA. And this needs no additional studies. Like Nike say's JUST DO IT. And get away from begging for foreign aid like a dog. Then again, trying to survive as individual countries, they can not do anything else but beg like a dog. Inidividualism is not the way to go. Separate and individual countries is NO WAY TO GO. They MUST UNITE.

    From Ernest
    Katy, Texas U.S.A.

  • Posted By: Mwanga @ 12/02/2008 12:03:37 AM

    This Afro-Chinese is a total azzhole. What has he done in Arabs-Africans relationship? Doesn't he know that most Arabs think Africans are good for slavery and the word used in Arab world for Africans south of Sahara means slave? Are even Africans on both sides of the Sahara really ready for unities among themselves that their illusionary and corrupt leaders like to sing to distract their peoples? Shouldn't Africans solve the Somali, Soudan, Eritrea-Ethiopia, Congo and Western Sahara problems first?
    Does he know what uniting incompatible people has produced in ex-URSS?
    That guy has Chinese ancestry. Why doesn't he tell us where the United States of Asia is? When Pakistan, India, China and Japan are one country the same will happen in Africa.
    This lunattic and the alike in Africa should focus on peace and good governance first. Africa is not poor because it doesn't have a continental governement. It is good for more unity around the globe but we need to be realistic. Make people ready first .

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    • Posted By: Nkundarahamwe @ 12/02/2008 2:27:06 PM

      By the way Ping, God bless his name, was appointed by AU becasue Africans believe that China is a good influnec to Africa and that Ping would do a good job as a deplomat with the chinese. It is the same thing that the Americans do, the appoint Jandai Fraser for African because she is Black. Ping is most wellcome in Africa for his good work, if you did litsen to his speech in Cairo in the AU meeting this year you could undestand him better.

    • Posted By: Nkundarahamwe @ 12/02/2008 2:20:03 PM

      We should always avoid the influence of Americans because it is decadent, lazy and kill the best of us

  • Posted By: kenstremsky @ 12/03/2008 6:23:51 PM

    I hope there will be a United States of Africa. It could be a federal Republic that has a constitution like ours. State Legislatures could have the power to repeal federal laws, federal regulations, trade agreements, and treaties so that State governments have the power to check the federal government. There could be a United States of Africa Senate with each State having 3 Senators - 2 chosen by the people and 1 chosen by the State Legislature. State Legislatures could have the power to recall (fire) their Senators, their Representatives, the President, and the Vice President. There currency could be backed by gold, silver, and other commodities.

    My website is http://www.myspace.com/kennethstremsky

    I ran for United States Senate from New Hampshire in 2002.

    Sincerely,

    Ken Stremsky

  • Posted By: fuzzytruthseker @ 12/01/2008 4:21:32 PM

    Mr. Ping rightly points out that he cannot understand that " You come to help people and they don't help themselves". This has been the eternal tragedy of Africa.

    I have personally put at risk my own professional well-being when I insisted, in 2005 as a development worker, that forcing the then-reluctant administration of President Museveni of Uganda to accept the return of opposition politician then-in-exile, Dr Besigye, so that he can contest truly multi-party elections, had to be made a precondition for further development aid disbursement to Uganda. We accomplished that goal, and the multi-party elections held that year gained credibility among the local population as well as the international community that it would never had gained without Dr Besigye's participation in the elections. Things are better now, no doubt. Does this therefore increase, however infinitesimally, the prospect of Africa becoming united, even in 35 years?

    Unfortunately, I cannot say that I believe in this pipedream. Why? Because, even after Dr Besigye's return, when the Annual Commonwealth Summit was held in Kampala earlier this year, international news coverage showed crowds of Ugandans mobbing Britain's Queen Elizabeth demanding that Britain bring real democracy to Uganda!

    Similarly, whenever the issue of the continued violence of the Lord's Revolutionary Army, an entirely demoniacal group of rebels in the country, comes up, it is to the international community that Ugandans look up to solve the problem. Meanwhile it is said that the Ugandan army is engaged in securing mining resources in the DRC on behalf of Museveni's brother who is alleged to have business interests (closely tied-up with those of influential western interests) in that vast country's fabulously rich mining resources. It is not appropriate to expect even official development agencies to tackle that problem when those agencies have, at great risk to their own finances and to their staff's well-being, successfully given Ugandans a legitimate political opposition. That political opposition must now do its job!

    What is true for Uganda is true for Zimbabwe. The opposition led by Tsivangirai won the legislative elections but he had to have a second run for the Presidential elections. He defected because of intimidation. Now, the Zimbabweans want the international community to solve their problems!

    I mean: it's always the same in Africa. I am myself African, and true, several countries do very well. But most do not. And, frankly, to ne, it seems like a lack of will, acceptance of adversity as if it were a fatality that only the international community can help resolve. With that kind of mindset, how can anyone progress?

    • Posted By: Nkundarahamwe @ 12/03/2008 6:06:00 AM

      what you are alluding to is so fussy and flimsy. Museveni has never had real opposition, he is a dictator suported by US and Britain. Mugabe has an opposiition that is well supported by US and Britain but that support denies its legitimacy and therefore is never allow to take power.

  • Posted By: alfacanguro @ 12/01/2008 3:50:02 PM

    According to our resident expert on foreign policy matters, Governor Palin, Africa is already a country and not a continent. Seriously, does bringing together even more numerous ethnic tribes make sense in view of the fact that just two tribes, the Hutus and the Tutsi, can't get along in Darfur?

    • Posted By: fuzzytruthseker @ 12/01/2008 4:34:13 PM

      alfacanguro

      Excuse the bluntness, but if you have no interest in the matter abstain from commenting. The Hutus and the Tutsis can't get along in RWANDA (and maybe in Congo), not in DARFUR. In DARFUR, it is nomad Arabs and sedentary 'black Africans' who are hotly disputing the oil resources of the region, which are eyed voraciously by both Cinense and American oil corporates.

      • Posted By: alfacanguro @ 12/01/2008 7:48:39 PM

        I stand corrected. As you correctly note, NO ONE in Africa can get along. So let them sort out their own problems. We have enough issues at home without venturing into other people's problems, which in many instances go back many centuries. I don't need my tax dollars to be wasted solving the world's problems.

        • Posted By: Nkundarahamwe @ 12/03/2008 5:58:39 AM

          But in the Dr. Ping's interview he did not mention anything to do with monwy coming from America. America never give africa money, most times the money about aid and all that that you hear about are usually lies. If you go to Africa no body can tell you that they received any aid from US, because none does.It is a lie created by US about ais. the American coorporate steals resources in Africa instead, eg, Congo, Nigeria where the oil is being mined by US for next to nothing among other countries. Aslo america sells weapons like the weapons fighting in E, Congo and Somalia have been bought with American money.

    • Posted By: brydges @ 12/01/2008 4:37:37 PM

      That was a misprint that Newsweek retracted. Polls show most Obamaites are like you, they no less about the government and Obama then they do about made up negative stories on Republicans This country needs to invest in political education, so the right choice can be made for once.

      • Posted By: alfacanguro @ 12/01/2008 8:33:40 PM

        If you're going to talk about education, it helps to know how to spell the word "know". And if you're going to be the Vice Presidential candidate, it helps to have a real education.

  • Posted By: wesmenno @ 12/01/2008 8:30:42 PM

    In the same breath as discussing union, we hear about east Congo.
    And let's not forget Rwanda.
    There are more serious problems here than uniting former colonists; there are ancient tribal hatreds.
    Good luck with that.

    • Posted By: Nkundarahamwe @ 12/02/2008 2:36:57 PM

      East Congo is happening principally due to the American companies greed, namely the Freeport-McMoRan Copper & Gold Inc that has refused to re-negotiate the mining contracts that are loop sided. Congo is also suffering from the EU, the Anglo-Saxon part of the EU, the France is helping Congolese a little but American action is killing more people in that country as we speak.
      Nkunda was train at Fort Bragg, USA. There He was asked: ???What make the grass grow green?"
      Thrice he answered, "The blood! The blood! The blood!" that was the African blood he was alluding to and he is now spilling.
      He is painting the westerner???s boots with our brothers??? blood.





      Nkunda was train at Fort Bragg, USA . "The He was as What make the grass grow green?"
      Thrice he answered, "the blood!, the blood!, the blood!" that was the African blood he was alluding to and he is now spilling.

  • Posted By: nobala @ 12/01/2008 6:01:22 PM

    Go to my website at www.advanceafrica.com and you will see that the idea of a United States of Africa is truly possible in this generation. It was the dream of men like Kwame Nkuruma. The big five need to get on this wagon ASAP: South Africa, Egypt, Nigeria, Senegal, Libya and Kenya. The Africans of the diaspora need to unite and create a political forum in order to influence the original Colonial governments that partitioned Africa. The colonial borders we so faithfuly defend are colonial prisons for our people and might have to be dismantled just like Europe has done on its own continent. The pain of our suffering people must become our own. Dr, Otengho sjotengho@yahoo.com

    • Posted By: Nkundarahamwe @ 12/02/2008 2:18:05 PM

      I support that but Kenya should also be counted in it

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/02/2008 1:16:48 AM

    PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTANT THAT IT WILL TAKE AFRICA CENTURIES TO CATCH UP. IT TOOK US OVE TWO CENTURIES AND A CIVIL WAR. IF TRY A QUICK FIX IT MAKES THING WORSE IN THE LONG RUN. HOPFEFULLY SOMEONE WILL REALIZE THIS WHEN FORMULATING AFRICAN POLICY.

  • Posted By: Lianna @ 12/01/2008 10:26:03 PM

    Darfur is NOT a genocide..... is that a legitimate statement? I'm sorry, but that makes me seriously question this man's competence and/or integrity.

  • Posted By: ndrock @ 12/01/2008 3:17:23 PM

    Bull! They will never be a United, and it isn't because of us, EU or China. It's because they still think in terms of tribal lands and not even as states that are whole, but splintered by tribal. They are killing each other over just that. What have we go to do with their killing each other? NOTHING. They are as bad as the Middle East, hanging unto live styles, and tribal believes. GET REAL!!
    Bring the United States together did not have to do with tribal. They just don't get the mentality it takes to become united as one. I don't believe they ever will.

    • Posted By: Lianna @ 12/01/2008 10:23:41 PM

      Unfortunately, the world's problems will end up at your doorstep...we are one world now. it is just a matter of time.

  • Posted By: Sportster @ 12/01/2008 8:07:05 PM

    We already have a United States of Africa. The last election converted the Untied States of America to the Untied States of Africa with a president elect and significant percentage of the citizens stating they are not Americans but African-Americans. So what percentage is African and what percentage is American? With the emphasis on the "African," it appears the president elect and these African-American citizens align more with African than American.

    • Posted By: Lianna @ 12/01/2008 10:17:56 PM

      I do not believe a "significant" percentage of Americans consider themselves African-American. There are more Hispanics in the US than African-Americans. And what evidence of such alignment are you talking about? Very few African-Americans have ever been to Africa or know anything about that continent, so I really do not see your reasoning.

  • Posted By: Adamkosi @ 12/01/2008 10:06:31 PM

    The United States of Africa is a dream just like the United States of America was a dream and the United States of Europe aka European Union is a dream in the making. If the USA can become a reality inspite of its idealogical North and South divide and Europe can form a Union inspite of its own rancorouse history of wars and muchual hatred between its members why not Africa. United we Stand divded we fall so said the
    wise old man.

  • Posted By: thisisnotamerica @ 12/01/2008 8:58:04 PM

    Same old New World Order garbage.

    If Africans have any sense, (and if they truly want to be resonsible global citizens) they will burn alive any NWO freakoids who try to use their continent as the basis for a banker-controlled single world government.

  • Posted By: techresmgt @ 12/01/2008 8:32:08 PM

    The more ridiculous the unfolding events become, the more those put into a political stupor embrace them. WAKE UP. This is not a test.

  • Posted By: neosapiens @ 12/01/2008 6:49:01 PM

    Before there can be a meaningful supranational government in Africa, there must be self-government, common purpose, and sufficient mutual trust and amity to get along. There must be an African identity. The American colonists had a common culture, common purpose and a common enemy. They had reasonably decent colonial governments. You can't turn a cauldron of chaos and civil war into a nation. And then, of course, there is radical Islam, which would oppose any government that accomodated non-Muslims as full-fledged citizens. Perhaps some of the more well-run countries could become allies and eventually confederate in something like the European Union, but under the current circumstances, there really isn't much hope of that.

  • Posted By: waterchuck @ 12/01/2008 6:25:36 PM

    Just an anecdotal observation, but it seems that the genocide, self-destruction, and lack of ability to self-govern demonstrated so far make it unlikely that the continent can somehow unite into a single democracy/republic with a common purpose. It's a great dream I"m sure for those such as Dr. Otengho, but reality says it won't happen anytime soon, like in the next 100 years.

  • Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 12/01/2008 3:09:14 PM

    Considering the EU, United States, China and the rest of the countries have decimated the Africa and corrupted its politicians by forcing slavery, taking land and countries and claiming it as their own they should flip the bill to bring it back together. The people of Africa should not have to put up a dime.

    • Posted By: cheapster505 @ 12/01/2008 6:18:35 PM

      or pay back the billions We have given so far for every famine to every civil war to aids to every other problem I think guilt has paid enough now that they have their land and Gov't they can't seem to grasp the Idea of self government

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