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The World's Worst Banker?

With so many candidates, it's difficult to choose.

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  • Posted By: youngfinanceprofessional @ 12/18/2008 8:11:52 AM

    Discussions have been overly one-sided - shareholders / investors (mainly institutional) demand greater return over a short period of time, and constantly compare that to how well other organisations have performed. Banks which did not perform as well as their (in hindsight, excessive-risk taking) peers were punished and constantly benchmarked against their peers, some of which have collapsed spectacularly. Do shareholders really, genuinely believe that they are entitled to 20% compounded annual growth in their stock values when the cash rate is 5% - ie. 15% more return and not much more risk assumed? It's the relentless pursuit of ever higher returns with blatant disregard of risk by investors that have partly contributed to this. What we are seeing today isn't the doing of a particular group of people (CEO, regulators, politicians, etc), but a concerted global effort by everyone (mainly in the developed nations). At the root of this is, quite simply, greed. Greed, in everyone, from investors in real estate (with the illusion of ever-growing asset value, some even resort to explain why the prices can keep growing forever, using demographic shift to fit into what they observe) to the inland revenue / tax authorities / politicians (who are more than happy to see ever increasing tax revenues and lavish themselves with absurd amount of perks and remuneration), that has resulted in where we are today. I agree, the likes of Dick Fuld, Fred Goodwin and Chuck Prince, are to be blamed. If you were the investors that believed in excessive growth / return over your investment, and demanded it, you are to be blamed too.

  • Posted By: luvebug51 @ 12/02/2008 9:03:43 PM

    Unless you know what its like to live the life of a banker there really shouldn't be the comments that are being posted up here. I see way to many people pointing there fingers at the bank but yet no one knows how to balance there check book and yet they want the bank to pay for there items and not get charged for it. Do you realize that thats stealing when you don'thave something your taking.. And what really gets me. Poste dated checks now we all kno thats illegal but yet you still do it... now whos fault is that...

    • Posted By: schlagdog @ 12/03/2008 5:46:12 PM

      Boohoo... I think everyone agrees you should pay for what you charge..that's called INTEGRITY IN CASE SOME OF YOU DEAD BEATS DON'T KNOW...What this is referring to is the leveraging of assets and pocket lining most not all of these large corporate banks and investment firms that ran our country and most of Europe's banks and financial institutions in the toilet. Now instead of letting them fail which they should do NOOOOOOOO we are bailing everyone out nad we the taxpayers are being left behind to pay for it at least part of it...and that's not all WE have to pay for their mistakes because there is no credit to continue business...If you think this is bad you wait...we haven't even gotten to bad yet...Banks and corpoations have already recieved BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS and there are a lot more in line for the same... and they are just sitting on it....that wasn't part of the deal...Maybe they are waiting for our so called saviors...Haha the Obama administration of a bunch of already been there done that's that are sudenly popping up into new offices...I think people should really take a look at the change people elected for our banking/economic system a bunch of carreer politicians there's nothing new or changing there except for their skin color or sex...and if that's a change than we are more ignorant than I thought ...bringing in the same people and hoping for a different result that's what they call INSANE doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result....

    • Posted By: bob_hall27 @ 12/02/2008 11:16:55 PM

      Talk about taking something thats not there or not theirs heck the people learn from the biggest crooks the US government They do that every day.

  • Posted By: valquince @ 12/03/2008 3:08:05 PM

    Haha I agree with the poster, 'Dollar Wise'. I'd much rather read something on how the system can be helped.

  • Posted By: kmblbilnewsweek1 @ 12/03/2008 10:20:53 AM

    I believe the title worst bank should go to Citi-Bank, Citi-Corp, whatever they call themselves. Their lobby changed the banking rules, they took on business lines of investments, insurance but where not successful in any of them. At the same time they treated the small customers badly, high late charges, no discussions possible, no mercy. Debts were inflated through the late charges and then sold to collectors as an asset to keep the profits inflated. Many companies sold their home-credit departments to Citicorp, like Sears, Home Depot, Limited, and what first looked like a step to get some new cash, it hurt their personal credit business to established customers over many years. I do not know, why tax payers should bail out this company which never showed any understanding, mercy, offered other way outs for any clients, in personal or commercial business.

  • Posted By: mbronner @ 12/03/2008 1:17:26 AM

    This one goes out to bob_hall27, who has chosen this article to attack Obama. The article was about the worst banker in the world and you talk about Obama. Are you a complete idiot, a jerk or a member of the Rush Limbaugh group of fascists? your choice, bud.

    • Posted By: bob_hall27 @ 12/03/2008 8:38:55 AM

      I didn't start talking about Obama I was replying to an Obama wackjob who thinks he is our savior

  • Posted By: Jane Iddings @ 12/02/2008 11:42:34 AM

    It just takes your breath away to read these kinds of stories. President-Elect Obama told Barbara Walters that he is ushering in a new era: the "ethics of responsibility." It can't come too soon. Business executives worldwide must find a moral compass to steer them out of this staggering level of unethical risk taking with other people's hard-earned money and the resulting disruption of global economic markets. There is a concept that needs to be front and center in this search for a moral compass: maturity -- intellectual, emotional and spiritual maturity. Jane Iddings, Blogger, GrowUpNow.info and BarackObamaRealMaturity.com

    • Posted By: bob_hall27 @ 12/02/2008 11:30:34 PM

      your savior is just as bought and paid for as any of the presidents through the central banking system I can't wait to see you morons eat your words you think Obama is gonna make your life all hunky dory wait till you don't have oil or electricity to heat your homes because he stops the use of coal or stops drilling in Amerika or you can't feed your kids because he has drove inflation so high through the devaluation of the dollar paying for his pet projects. This so called savior of yours is not about the people he is about bigger government and control of the people.

    • Posted By: curryjm @ 12/02/2008 4:33:25 PM

      Oh please, enough from the Obamanauts; the election is over!

  • Posted By: bob_hall27 @ 12/02/2008 11:14:12 PM

    It's not that hard I'll start the list for you Bernake, And Paulson they are definitely the Two biggest and crookedest bankers in Amerika

  • Posted By: Dollar Wise @ 12/02/2008 6:35:45 PM

    Maybe it Sbetter to point out good bank management . Good bank management that needs to be sent over to the poorly run banks to help them straighten out their mess.

    For example, write an article on how the system can be helped.

    Maybe that would make for better Journalism. Maybe its better to discuss PNC out of Pittsburgh, PA. They are great bankers.

    To merely write a story bashing bad bankers is an easy write. Your audience doesn't have to even think. Its the same old bring up Word, bake at 350 for 45 minutes, Journalism.

  • Posted By: velvet1941 @ 12/02/2008 5:50:43 PM

    What? No honorable mention of Kerry Killinger, CEO of Washington Mutual! The lucky breaks the bank got when American Savings, Great Western Bank and Home Savings (all of California) fell into his lap. Overnight they became a several hundred billion dollar bank from a sleepy backwater Seattle S&L. Killinger psst it away. Please put him near the top of your criminal list! He certainly derserves it!

  • Posted By: velvet1941 @ 12/02/2008 5:47:01 PM

    No honorable mention for Kerry Killinger of Washington Mutual? He should be the poster boy for having a saleman as CEO of a large bank. Yes, and he had good luck too, with American Savings, Great Western Bank and Home Savings (all of California) fall into his lap. Please put him near the top, he deserves it!

  • Posted By: 8Nobama @ 12/02/2008 5:33:43 PM

    Well the only plausible solution is for them to give back/up the financial freedom they now enjoy, make them like the rest of us laymen.

  • Posted By: KennedyReyes @ 12/02/2008 4:32:03 PM

    these guys should all be tried as criminals and given the death penalty for the financial havoc they have created . they are all traitors

  • Posted By: jazzmanjim @ 12/02/2008 2:34:17 PM

    This guy makes Ken Thompson who was fired from Wachovia (soon to be Wells Fargo) look compentent.

  • Posted By: 4carol @ 12/02/2008 2:04:22 PM

    Whether you call them bankers or financiers doesn't matter; they all have ruined their companies because of greed!! And Paulson and Bernake are no better giving to all the Wall St. big shots who don't deserve a dime for running their companies into the ground. Does anyone out there even have any common sense?? I thoroughly doubt it!

  • Posted By: manny_s @ 12/02/2008 1:36:03 PM

    I'm a shareholder and I don't demand anything, so quit trying to deflect the blame. The truth is that these criminals have learned how to manipulate and game the system so that fora short period of time everything looks high-flying and a few people are making a lot of money. I wonder how much money Mr Goodwin was able to walk away with? May his heirs be as lucky as Ken Lay's!

  • Posted By: wegan2008 @ 12/02/2008 12:42:30 PM

    The guy was smart, ambitious.and had good intentions. No one saw the global crisis comming. If this crisis did not occur, I bet this guy could have recieved more medals from the queen than any other banker in the history of the UK. You cannot blame this crisis on the bankers. You have to blame the authorities and government who ingnored primary school comon sense that calls for regulating the financial system. How can you give all banks in the world a free pass to do whatever they like and want to. It is a miracle that we were still functioning till now. shame on the so called civilized word. My daughter who just finished kindergarten knows better than all those brickheaded government officials.

    • Posted By: TBinSD @ 12/02/2008 1:34:02 PM

      The road to hell is paved with good intentions. He made the wrong decisions becuase of excessive hubris and ambition and overall greed.

  • Posted By: Lil Jimmie @ 12/02/2008 1:06:07 PM

    Boards of directors and stockholders demand growth numbers that can not be made without taking the same risks that the dopiest risk taking competitor is taking. We reward the lunatics with blinders on with everything their hearts desire. We get exactly what we deserve when we rewrite the rules of safe conservative banking for the convenience and political ambitions of people who have no clue of what their impacts WILL be. Quit thinking outside the box, the box is there for a reason. You grandfather the banker made that box for you, stay in it!

  • Posted By: YashBudini @ 12/02/2008 1:05:11 PM

    The awards should start with Alan Greenspan, Mr De-Regulation.

  • Posted By: Lil Jimmie @ 12/02/2008 1:04:25 PM

    Boards of directors and stockholders demand growth numbers that can not be made without taking the same risks that the dopiest risk taking competitor is taking. We reward the lunatics with blinders on with everything their hearts desire. We get exactly what we deserve when we rewrite the rules of safe conservative banking for the convenience and political ambitions of people who have no clue of what their impacts WILL be. Quit thinking outside the box, the box is there for a reason. You grandfather the banker made that box for you, stay in it!

  • Posted By: jybarra @ 12/02/2008 12:10:44 PM

    To the average person it is almost incomprehensible that this is happening in our country and in our world. There are too many people at the top of business with no moral background. How these people reach the top of their professions and their companies has to be a sin. Will the new administration be able to change the ethics of big business and banking? I seriously doubt it. There are too many men and women who seek power and wealth who will do anything to obtain what they want. We let sick people reach the top and then we wonder why we are in trouble.

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