Detroit's Delusion

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  • Posted By: Luckydog1 @ 12/03/2008 10:43:01 PM

    As a TAXPAYER I am appalled by the attitude Congress has taken in regards to a LOAN to help AMERICAN automakers. THEY have let foreign companies come in and sell cars with none of the environmental requirements, nor any import tax that our companies have to absorb to sell a car in their country. Then we come to the exorbitant prices and profits of the oil companies. As far as a consumer, the oil companies constitute a monopoly and should be regulated accordingly to pro tect the interests of the TAXPAYER!!! I paid %.18 for a bottle of mayonaise last week, guess where tis increase in price is reklated to. I don't think YOU have an iota ofcompresension as to what these prices have done to our economy. AND THEN we come to the BAILOUT of the mortgage mess. YOU GAVE MILLIONS of TAXPAYERS dollars to corporations who knowingly made bad loans. NO ONE WAS REQUIRED TO BE AQCOUNTABLE FOR THIS TAXPAYERS MONEY< THE CORPORATE LEADERS STILL GOT THEIR MISBEGOTTEN BONUSES< and you have the gall to act hostily to AMERICAN AUTO companies who are asking for a LOAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 THIS IS AMERICA and YOU ARE IN YOUR OFFICE TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF AMERICAN TAXPAYERS>>>>>>>>>You obviously have no concept of all of the industruies and small businessmen who make their living on a business related to the auto industry!!!!!!!1111 THIS IS AMERICA, ACT LIKE YOU CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    • Posted By: teachabc1 @ 12/03/2008 10:59:46 PM

      Kudos for understanding the severity of the issue. I agree with you 110%!!!!! Too bad others just don't get it. Maybe when the avalanche hits them - then they will understand. They better just not come to me and cry, because I won't have any sympathy for them.

    • Posted By: teachabc1 @ 12/03/2008 10:56:15 PM

      Kudos for understanding the severity of this issue. I agree with you 100%!!!!!! Too bad so many others just don't get it.

  • Posted By: viper321 @ 12/03/2008 10:55:53 PM

    This is a national crisis. This is OUR country at stake. We need writers demonstrating courage, vision and character. However, this article doesn't cut it.

    Shame on you Newsweek!

  • Posted By: sevierhere @ 12/03/2008 10:49:30 PM

    I wonder what the 3 stooges will have to say the next 2 days- I'd like to see them beg- like a BIG DOG

  • Posted By: dagreins @ 12/03/2008 10:24:42 PM

    mazda is owned by Ford, duh?!!!!

  • Posted By: Packer999 @ 12/03/2008 10:44:57 PM

    Right on dagreins. A country's wealth is based on what it produces. If we can throw 700+billion on the sidewalk for the cowboys on Wall Street, who produce.....paper.........then we can certainly LOAN 25+ billion to the Big 3 without question.

    Wall Street, the insurance industry, and the prostitutes in real estate wrecked our economy, and we're going to bust the nuts of our auto makers? Sure, let 'em fail. Let the governors of all our states, who are asking for billions, fail too. Let 'em all fail. I'm sure Wall Street and the Japanese auto makers will help you out.

  • Posted By: sevierhere @ 12/03/2008 10:38:30 PM

    westdude-you are soooooo right about the oil companies!!

  • Posted By: dagreins @ 12/03/2008 10:37:51 PM

    I would rather pay for a loan, than for the social security and medicare for 4 million! This is a simple decision for the rational, yet such a toughie for the emotional and simple minded.

  • Posted By: westdude @ 12/03/2008 10:32:53 PM

    They should ask the oil companies to bail them out, not us. After all, the oil companies and the big three have been in cahoots in the past 30 years to make sure that they don't have to improve their cars quality and increase the gas efficiency for their cars. The true American way is that when you do the right thing you becoming successful and when you do stupid thing like the big three then you deserve the bankruptcy. As much as I hate seeing workers loosing their jobs but it's almost no difference with any industry who's not making money and having to lay off their employees. It is what it is. Sorry guys. Next time find a better company to work for so that you don't have to worry about this type of problem due to incompetent overpaid executives who works there.

  • Posted By: sevierhere @ 12/03/2008 10:27:28 PM

    R.I.P. MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA - WELCOME TO THE 'NEW MEXICO"

  • Posted By: dlacey @ 12/03/2008 10:25:20 PM

    NO THE GOVERMENT SHOULD NOT BAIL THEM OUT. LET THE CEOs GIVE BACK THE MONEY THEY WERE OVERPAID TO RUN THESE 3 COMPANY INTO THE GROUND. LET THEM MAKE PAY CUTS. CUT THE UAW WORKS PAY SO THEY CAN KEEP THEIR JOBS.

  • Posted By: joeelpel @ 12/03/2008 10:19:31 PM

    I drive a 4-cylinder Mazda. Don't give those automakers a dime. Anyone who is stupid enough to pay more than $30,000 for four wheels and a seat needs a boot in the rear. A $30,000 automobile should not rely on oil as fuel. It's time these automakers stop kneeling to the oil companies and use the technology for alternative fuel sources they have been hiding for the past 30 years.

  • Posted By: RockBopp @ 12/03/2008 10:19:08 PM

    My gut feeling is that these guys don't deserve a bailout. We've known for YEARS that vehicles should have better gas mileage, like 30 years maybe. I'm unemployed - BA in Journalism - & I have a crappy feeling that loaning them my tax dollars is throwing money down a deep, dark hole.

  • Posted By: dagreins @ 12/03/2008 10:13:38 PM

    The people of the United States broke these companies by allowing their elected officials to declare that these companies were by law obligated to negotiate with the UAW. The courts held that workers have a 1st amendment right to unionize with no recourse for the employer. GM sold more cars than anyone in the world last year despite this handicap placed on it by the very citizens who benefit from its very existence. Not only do Americans owe GM this loan, they owe reparations for all the devastating regulations, laws and collective bargaining agreements. GM helped win WWii for its country , shoulders millions of retirees our government cannot afford, and directly and indirectly employs more Americans than any other company in this great nation. I owe, you owe and America owes.

  • Posted By: dagreins @ 12/03/2008 10:05:14 PM

    It is amazing how any truly unbiased person could ever suggest that the absolute industry leader, hands down, has failed. The Americans failed by forcing GM to bargain with unions by law under collective bargaining agreements and suggesting the first amendment protects workers rights to destroy companies. Americans and the laws they passed destroyed these companies and they owe far more than 38 billion to recompense them for it.

    • Posted By: sevierhere @ 12/03/2008 10:10:50 PM

      if the big 3 fail -the jobs lost will snowball into an avalanche-be preparred for the 2nd depression

  • Posted By: pineryguy @ 12/03/2008 8:48:35 PM

    If nothing is done to help the big 3 , it will not only cause massive unemployement from there end BUT , millions of other jobs also , people think its bad now just wait , it will be a major depression , I am not looking forward to eating warm beans over a candle are you ? , PS I have just lost my job ! I hope you dont .
    Also why did the banks get money they started this mess by lending to people who could not afford to buy a house in the 1st place , where is there plan ?? , oh i forgot there white collar workers

    • Posted By: sevierhere @ 12/03/2008 10:05:56 PM

      if the big 3 do fail, the jobs lost will not snowball- it will be an avalanche,get ready for the next depression- and they do not deserve a bailout- fire these guys and loan the money to people who can make it work

    • Posted By: misterharban @ 12/03/2008 8:59:30 PM

      Golly, you'd think the UAW might understand that if it doesn't take a big "haircut" its workers are going to be the first ones to be unemployed. Maybe, as patriots, they should consider bringing themselves down the the standards of other manufacturing workers "for the good of the country". But what this is really about is people at the public trough, from janitors to CEO's, wanting everyone else to sacrifice so they won't.

  • Posted By: Lubbock @ 12/03/2008 10:02:15 PM

    Good way to get rid of the executives making hundreds of millions and the unions

    Let em go bankrupt they have known about this for years

  • Posted By: jollybug03 @ 12/03/2008 10:01:07 PM

    Why should we citizens be responsible for bailing out every Tom, Dick, and Harry because of squandering on their parts, or incapable of running an organization in the black. How is our bailing them out really going to help them do their job right, when they didn't do it right the first time. They boot us out the door if we ran things the way they do. Another thought. A Christmas Tree from the state of Montana was lite at the White House yesterday. A school child from Montana was there to light up the tree. Who is paying for this. There is transportation costs for the child and I assume a parent. Lodging and food expenses. Shipment costs for the tree, I would assume. Talk about wasting taxpayers money. Surely, a tree could have been found closer to DC, and surely a local child was quite capable of lighting the tree. Seems like those in office need to quit finger pointing and sweep their own back yard. Maybe then, our country would not be in the financial trouble times we are facing.

  • Posted By: wyris @ 12/03/2008 10:00:01 PM

    Wanna bailout ??? here's a solution Cut the wages 50% from top to bottom eliminate UAW health perks and job bank it's do nothing and get paid. Let's earn a bonus when the company makes profit we the taxpayers wants a piece of the pie too

  • Posted By: jollybug03 @ 12/03/2008 9:55:22 PM

    If incapable of running an organization, then get out is my feeling. I don't feel responsible for keeping every Tom, Dick or Harry afloat. It's time for true accountability from the top down. Look at how these folks squandered their money, and they want me to help bail them out? I don't think so. Another thought. Yesterday it was reported the Christmas Tree at the White House came from Montana. And a school child from Montana lit the tree. Who payed the travel expenses for this child, and i would assume the parents for the trip, lodging, and food to light a tree? Who paid to have the tree shipped? Was it a free gift. Surely, a tree could be found closer to home, and a local child would be quite capable of lighting the thing. Talk aout squander at the top. Those in power are finger pointing, when they should be sweeping their own back yard

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