A Gay Marriage Surge

I know many gays that aren't that preoccupied or not at all with marriage. Now, I dont care about Newsweek polling and medias views...when its all said and done...the fact is that when the same sex marriage proposal goes to the ballot ...IT LOSES.... In states where from the outside at least appeared to be ripe for radical social change the voting has been overwhelmingly for heterosexual marriage as THE marriage. I believe gay activism is hurting that community by insisting in this issue. They have the right to formulate a proposal then have the people vote in favor or against. Now, when the same activist organizations try by legal fiat and maneuvering to evade the will of the people and have gay marriage land by default on society. Gay activism: move away from radical agendas.

bdsleepy If your children turn out to be heterosexual, then it surely won't be because you brought them up to be strraight, it will be entirely because they are naturally heterosexual. I was brought up to be straighter than straight yet I am not sexually attracted to females. Never have been.

LIkewise, if your children marry and have kids, I sincerely hope for all their sakes, that it will be love that drives this, and not parental bullying.

No wonder your nephew was ashamed to tell you he is gay, with your attitude, i am surprised he still talks to you. If my parents had not accepted me forty years ago when they found out I am homosexual, I would have had no choice but to never speak to them again. Loss of love from the parents does not turn someone straight, I can assure you. Nor does bullying, evangelising, criticising. You don't like homosexualty, that is plain, but like it or not, we are a fact of life.

I am certainly not interested in sleeping with a horse, a dog or a cow. Never have been.

Hey tiger lilly, u sure talk about shoving things down ur throat, lolol. No one can mistake you for a straight person, lolol. The only shoving here is idiots like you "The Minority" who want to impose their "LIFESTYLE" on us. Since when does the MINORITY RULE??? lolol. U seem like a very little angry person. lol Maybe one day you will feel some peace : ) Then again,

squirrelie q You are right, we have to accept the will of the majority, that is the way democracy works. Even a president elected by a minority of the electorate can rule if he/she get the Electoral College votes. Everyone accepts this, because it is a system that has proven value. Decisions of great moment are not taken lightly, and it behoves anyone seeking change to convince the electorate of the need for that change. As you would be well aware, this has happened in the past, where activists were trying to convince the electorate of the validity of giving women the vote, of freeing blacks from slavery. Nowadays, it seems incredible to us that anyone believed in the past that it was morally justifiable to practise slavery, or to disenfranchise half of the population from the popular vote, but the change in public attitude was brought about by rational argument, debate and eventually, reason prevailed. By the same process, we no longer lock up homosexuals for having a consenting sexual relationship with another adult person of the same gender, as was once the case.

Public education was what shifted public attitudes then, and it is what will shift them now. If we fail to win over the public, as we clearly did with Proposition 8, then we have a perfect right to have another go, and to keep having another go. We may die before we succeed, but like you, we accept that in a democracy, that is the only way to prevail. We are not interested in forcing this on the electorate at the point of the gun, because we would not have won the hearts and the minds of the people. As has been proven time and again, such a totalitarian regime is doomed from the start.

We may well never succeed in convincing the general public of our probity and may never persuade you that we should have equal rights for equal taxes, but don't knock us for having a go. If something was this important to you, I am sure you would not just lie down and play dead. As for me, I listen to arguments for and against and make up my own mind, each and every time.

bdsleepy With your attitude, if any of your kids turns out to be homosexual, they may well become so depressed they will suicide. Gay kids suicide at 6 times the national rate because of rejection and disenfranchisement by their peer group, their church, their schools and worst of all, their families. If you accepted and loved a gay child, they would not do this. The family should be a fortress against hatreds.

Don't think you can "bring up your kids to be heterosexual" -I was brought up as straight as a toothpick. My parents are heterosexual, as are all my siblings and cousins, my church taught only heterosexuality as a possible relationship, all the movies I watched had hetero relationships. At no point in my childhood was I exposed to homosexuality. None. One day, as happens for all teenagers, I started to become sexually aware. Of Men. It is to a male and a male only that I have ever had any sexual attraction. It would have been a thousand times more convenient for it to have been female, because then I would have fitted into the box, but it wasn't. I won't waste valuable space here with the minutiae of all the things I went through, including my own suicide, from which I incredibly recovered, albeit substantially disabled, but let me tell you this, you cannot judge others unless you have walked a mile in their mocassins.

If your child grows up and loves somebody, and that somebody loves them back, that is the greatest happiness they might know. Don't rob them of that, or you may one day find yourself without their love, and possibly without theiir life as well.

It was through my own suicide that my parents became aware of my homosexualty. Now, two generations later, I have learned to accept and value myself as I am. Fortunately for me, I live in an age where it is possible at last to do this with the love and support of family, friends and peers.