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  • Posted By: Dr. Heracy @ 12/11/2008 10:15:04 AM

    Traditional Church teaching falsely misuses the Bible to judge the homosexual lifestyle. True Biblical theology begins not with Church tradition and dogma but with the biblical texts themselves. Biblical theology seeks to understand how the biblical authors expressed themselves in the Koine Greek of the time (not expanded by later modern Greek
    meanings), in terms of their culture. Only with this understanding is it legitimate to define biblical sexual ethics of the NT and find implications for today.


    Well then, lets all go and look up Leviticus 18:22 shall we?

    It's not just Homosexuality that gets prohibited in there.

    # harvesting the corners of a field (19:9)
    # eating fruit from a young tree (19:23)
    # wearing clothes that are made from a textile blend (19:19)
    # cross-breeding livestock (19:19)
    # sowing a field with mixed seed (19:19)
    # shaving or getting a hair cut (19:27)
    # tattoos (19:28)
    # even a mildly disabled person from becoming a priest (21:18)
    # charging of interest on a loan (25:37)

    Lets not forget tha the same passage requires that:

    * a child to be killed if he/she curses their parent (20:9)
    * all persons guilty of adultery to be killed (20:10)
    * the daughter of a priest who engages in prostitution to be killed (21:9)
    * the bride of a priest to be a virgin (21:13)
    * ritual killing of animals, using cattle, sheep and goats (22:19)
    * observation of 7 feasts: Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread, Feast of Firstfruits, Feast of Pentecost, Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement, Feast of Tabernacles (23)
    * a person who takes the Lord???s name in vain is to be killed (24:16)

    But, if we translate the original Hebrew word for word, we get,

    " And with a male thou shalt not lie down in beds of a woman; it is an abomination."

    In modern day English this could be translated as:

    "Men may not engage in homosexual sex while on a woman???s bed; it is an abomination"

    That is, "rather than forbidding male homosexuality, it simply restricts where it may occur." This may seem a strange prohibition to us today, but was quite consistent with other instructions in Leviticus which involve improper mixing of things that should be kept separate. e.g. ancient Israelites were not allowed to mix two crops in the same field, or make cloth out of two different raw materials. or plow a field with an ox and a donkey yoked together. A woman???s bed was her own. Only her husband was permitted there, and then only under certain circumstances. Any other use of her bed would be a defilement.

    There are even a few same sex partnerships in the bible if you look closley.

    * Ruth and Naomi
    * David and Jonathan
    * Daniel and Ashpenaz

    And Yahweh seemed quite content to let them alone ...

  • Posted By: cherrylee60 @ 12/09/2008 12:19:58 PM

    I think people are forgetting about Sodom and Gomorra. How GOD destroyed both cities for homosexuality. The BIBLE does mention that homosexules will find themselves in fire and brimstone. I believe in a man and a woman in marriage only. Its not healthy for our children to be so exposed to all of this.

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/09/2008 1:16:35 PM

      That isn't why God destroyed Sodom. You should probably actually read the bible before you spout off.

      • Posted By: lumpygravy @ 12/09/2008 2:33:22 PM

        HB...take your own advice "READ THE BIBLE" that is EXACTLy why Sodom was destroyed =-)

        • Posted By: Roger47 @ 12/09/2008 4:46:50 PM

          Sodom had absolutely nothing to do with sodomy or homosexuality. For what it's worth, Jesus never said anything against homosexuality either.

          • Posted By: thedon @ 12/10/2008 7:53:02 PM

            Oh Roger. Just say it outright if you don't believe the Bible. Don't go trying to interpret it. How foolish of you. The entire Bible is the Word of God, and Jesus is God. I don't pick and choose like you do. You are not qualified to do that, and neither am I.

            • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/11/2008 9:18:31 AM

              " I don't pick and choose like you do."

              So you don't touch shellfish, or wear clothes made from more than one fabric?

        • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/09/2008 4:55:18 PM

          No, Sodom was destroyed because the men of the town tried to rape Lot's guests.

          Are you one of those "liars for Jesus"?

      • Posted By: HumbleHoops @ 12/09/2008 1:38:34 PM

        Genesis 13:13 (New International Version)
        13 Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

        • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/09/2008 2:00:37 PM

          Yes, they were: Due to trying to attack Lot's guests, and rape them.

          Not because anyone was homosexual. Now, don't you think you should stop trying to put words in God's mouth? I imagine that pisses him off far more than some gays wanting to get married.

  • Posted By: jxn.jerry @ 12/09/2008 2:13:56 PM

    To Mr. Campo-Flores, and Lisa Miller, In the beginning, God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. If one Word of the Bible is untrue, then the entire Word of God is untrue. You are both extremely "out to lunch" and given over to the lies of satan himself. If you continue to follow this course of writing and printing, I would suggest that you all start mailing out resumes, because this "magazine" will not be around much longer. God will NOT be mocked, neither will His Word.

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/09/2008 5:03:34 PM

      "God will NOT be mocked"

      Thank you, Mullah Omar.

      • Posted By: thedon @ 12/10/2008 5:46:41 PM

        Listen HB. You will find this out to be true, one way or the other. You are to be pitied if you are wrong. If I am wrong, oh well - I still had a wonderfully fulfilling life. Think about it. Worth the risk to you, huh?

        • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/11/2008 9:17:16 AM

          We'll see, won't we? In the meantime, I shall continue to live like a biped, and not like a sheep.

    • Posted By: Roger47 @ 12/09/2008 4:51:41 PM

      Six days. Oops, that is two words. Either way, time to find a new religion.

  • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/09/2008 2:42:50 PM

    So much for you Yanks living in the "land of the free". No, it seems America is just another theocracy, under a thin veneer of civil liberties. You should change the name of your country, out of respect for your founders (better men than their descendants, and no doubt of it). How about "Ameristan"?

    • Posted By: Fanny_Craddock @ 12/09/2008 10:15:05 PM

      It's a crying shame. I like America really and I feel sorry for them. They seem to be the victim of their own 'free speech'.

      I can tell you now, I'm glad Britain offers me a safe environment to bring my kids up without all of this hatred. It makes me shudder to think the emotional torture my children would have experienced at school there becaus etheir parents are gay.

      God bless you Horrible.

      • Posted By: thedon @ 12/10/2008 5:50:25 PM

        Far worse to have our children grow up lacking a knowledge and healthy fear of their Maker. But at least we'll know how to be politically correct! Of course, that won't count for much at the end of days . . .

        • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/11/2008 9:14:59 AM

          Healthy fear? Nice God you have there.

      • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/10/2008 8:39:20 AM

        "I like America really and I feel sorry for them. "

        I like Americans, too. Most that I've met, at any rate. I kind of feel a bit guilty, too...after all, we DID flush our puritans onto their shores a few hundred years back. Left us sane, and them with a decent-sized streak of crazy.

    • Posted By: thedon @ 12/10/2008 5:53:10 PM

      Hey HB. Why don't you do a bit of reading/research on how this country was founded? Ever wondered how this country became so prosperous in less than 200 years? Just make sure you don't read a re-written history book. That's the latest attempt to deny a nation founded on God. Or have you already swallowed that one, hook line and sinker?

      • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/11/2008 9:14:14 AM

        Your founders were Deists, not fundies...and you can find that in their own writings, not in a "revisionist" history book.

        Your nation's laws were not based on the bible. Otherwise, you wouldn't have jury trials, the right to confront your accusers, etc.

  • Posted By: ok4u @ 12/10/2008 10:24:12 AM

    There is nothing in the Constitution that says Christophobes should not be allowed to marrry.

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/10/2008 11:17:32 AM

      Christophobes? I don't think anyone is afraid of Christ. It's Christ's followers that are acting like the Taliban.

      • Posted By: ok4u @ 12/10/2008 4:33:09 PM

        Technically, homophobia means a fear of man, not fear of homosexual people. But it is often used to mean fear and hatred of the latter. Similarly, Christophobia technically means a fear of Christ, but it is used to describe the fear and hatred of Christians.

        • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/11/2008 8:51:37 AM

          In this case, the justified fear (and growing hatred of) Christians. You may win a round or two more of this particular fight, but the eventual backlash against your religion will be far worse than the idea of two men getting married. Look at the LDS. They're already pariahs, worldwide. Their "missionaries" over here are laughed out of town now.

  • Posted By: blackhat @ 12/10/2008 4:43:32 PM

    It's pandoras box! Releasing more anguish upon the world. The real truth about gay activity is destructive. It's proof that we have not advanced but continue to decline and return all the way back to Greece AD. Relationships with men have changed to the point where men can no longer be friends or they are perceived as queer. Thats why the word queer is attached. Heterosexual individuals in a public place do not want individuals of the same sex to approach them with desire and lust. They don't want to view public displays of affection between same sexes.To a heteromale homomales can be viewed as individuals who clean themselves with their bare hands after excreamenting. Walking about shaking peoples hands and touching publicly shared fixtures. Sound acceptable. Fact is parents love their children, does that mean sex is required? People love their animals does that mean sex is necessary? Gay love is as artificial as the paulus lesbians share. What's missing is all the male hormone physic baggage, thus intolleration of men (or Women) There's no sexual responsive glands in the colon, and females often desirer to be penetrated. The female is equipped to have pleasure with her male counterpart who is simultaneously pleased as well. What's the problem? Dealing with the other persons natural state and their own selected being state in nature, if not self position. Thats a prejudice, something that can be controlled and even taught to dismiss. Sex is not love. Sex is self-serving. Love never serves the self. As newsweek seeks to change and control the environment to it's natural state it should begin to speak up about the unnatural and different types of unleashed prejudices of humanity that do not coincide with natural selection.

    • Posted By: apothecarycaitlyn @ 12/10/2008 8:21:49 PM

      "There's no sexual responsive glands in the colon"

      They aren't called "glands" they are called "nerve-endings" that connect to the brain and they ARE sensory responsive to sexual activity. Check your resources.

      http://www.sexual-health-resource.org/anal_sex.htm#pleasureanal

    • Posted By: apothecarycaitlyn @ 12/10/2008 8:15:08 PM

      jiij

    • Posted By: Daggs23 @ 12/10/2008 7:16:00 PM

      your sentences barely make sense. you cannot be taught to dismiss your feelings for another person, nor should you be forced to. Sex is natural for all animals and humans to partake in, and not just for procreation. a healthy relationship for heterosexuals and homosexuals involves having sex. denying sex causes problems in the brain which are demonstrated in the recent child molestation cases involving priests...maybe if they were allowed to live a normal life and have a sexual partner and family they wouldn't turn to such abnormal behavior.

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 12/10/2008 6:18:16 PM

      I don't understand your point about guys not being able to be friends with other guys without being called queer. I have a number of male friends from my hometown and where I currently live. We hang out all the time and never get called queer. One of my best friends in college was gay (technically bisexual) and he never put the moves on me. He understood that I was straight and we were just friends. This friend is now in a committed gay relationship and loves the other guy. This love isn't selfish or anything. It's certainly not artificial. And by the way, sex is sometimes, though admittedly not always, an expression of love, so the "sex is not love", "sex is self-serving" comments are incorrect. Blackhat, I respect your opinion, but in my experience your entire comment here is blatantly incorrect.

  • Posted By: bkrummel @ 12/09/2008 6:21:32 PM

    Considering 67% of the people polled didn't think marriage is a religious matter, can we stop discussing theology?

    In my mind marriage is about a deep commitment between two people and it is the commitment, not the gender, that matters most. Thus gay people should be allowed to marry. Does anyone here believe that marriage is deep commitment that goes beyond gender or religion? If not, explain why the gender or religious aspects are so important.

    • Posted By: technologist @ 12/09/2008 11:41:38 PM

      Why don't you just open the topic on Athiesm. We can't stop talking about religion because of our Love for God. You want to change the subject because you want others to believe that life exists without God. Please stow your Athiestic agenda.

      • Posted By: Daggs23 @ 12/10/2008 7:30:45 PM

        GOD CREATED US ALL EQUAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (even you) Discrimination is wrong, period. It is wrong in every case, race, culture, skin color, religion, disability, age, gender, and yes...sexuality. A true follower of God would not discrimnate against anyone. Gay people have just as much right to marry as heterosxuals. GROW UP!

      • Posted By: bkrummel @ 12/10/2008 12:42:24 AM

        Firstly, HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS! You do not know me, what my religious beliefs are, and it seems that you have no respect for them. I am sick and tired of having Christian zealots like yourself push your beliefs, and related political policies, on me. So please stow your religious agenda.

        I came here to have a thoughtful discussion about the article and gay marriage. I thought if I respectfully engage those who disagree with me, I could open up a dialogue and better understand the positions of those polled (religion wasn't a major factor in gay marriage for most of them). Especially since I find it disgraceful how some liberals treat religious people by looking down on them and shoving their views down people's throats. Instead the topic became entirely about the Bible, religion, etc. So I tried to change the subject. And then I got your "lovely" post. I see why no one else is trying to engage you.

    • Posted By: Fanny_Craddock @ 12/09/2008 10:05:39 PM

      Me and my boyfriend have been married for over ten years now and we're very happy together. We've brought up two children together (my boyfriends children) and I'm sure they've turned out fine. We attend church regularly, it was our Priest who offered to marry us (I played the bride). Marriage is for everybody who is capable of love. Christianity is all about loving your neighbour, this law is an insult to our faith.

      Please don't repeat the "We just want to protect Marriage", that's a total fabrication and everyone can see straight through it. Homosexual were considered evil 2000 years ago because they were viewed as rapists who were incapable of love.

      God bless.

      • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/10/2008 8:36:43 AM

        "Me and my boyfriend have been married for over ten years now and we're very happy together."

        Congratulations!

      • Posted By: Fanny_Craddock @ 12/09/2008 10:07:57 PM

        Oh, I'm sorry about that. The site went crazy and its double posted. my bad. Anyhow, I agre with you bkrummel

    • Posted By: Fanny_Craddock @ 12/09/2008 9:48:36 PM

      My boyfriend and I are planning on getting married soon. We're deeply committed to each other. It's amazing how 3 years has gone by so fast. My Preist was the one that made the suggestion that we should be wed. I thought my boyfriend would laugh when it was mentioned, but he thought it would be cool. So yeah, next year it is! I'm really nervous, I'm going to be the bride!

      I really can't understand what all the fuss is about personally. Aren't Christians meant to do unto others as they would have done unto themselves? Refusing people the right to share their love for one another is a pretty ironic way of showing it. Oh, and don't give me that "We just want to keep marriage sacred" mumbo jumbo, we all know too well what this is all about.

  • Posted By: jlaiz @ 12/10/2008 4:50:31 PM

    Gay population is growing and WE ARE NOT MINORITY. We make the most REVENUE of working men and women in this country...WE GO TO THE UNIVERSITIES and get to STUDY, WE GO TO A WAR we did not ask and DIE with honors...but of course they don't recognize us because of being DIFFERENT....
    THIS COUNTRY filled with ignorant chauvinistic redneck men and women... MOST High-School Drop-Outs...and with no aspirations for their future...WHO really believe in WELFARE and working at Mc Donnalds'. AND YET this sad part of the population is the one TRYING TO TELL US HOW TO BELIEVE OR LEAD OUR LIVES?????
    WE GAY - BISEXUAL - LESBIAN we adopt children (that the irresponsible ones did not want) and make homes and families...and those children do not really care if they have TWO MOMMIES OR TWO DADDIES...cuz at the end of the day they want love and a secure household with nice warm food at the table...schooling and nice clean bed to sleep.
    WE ALSO HAVE RIGHTS and WE DESERVE and DEMAND RESPECT.
    We are the educated and artistic part of Society. And we did not have it easy. PLEASE WHEN REFERRING TO GOD AND THE BIBLE USE IT WITH LOVE, NOT FOR PERSONAL GAIN... AND PLEASE NOTATE!!!!! THIS WAS WRITTEN BY MEN and a society repressed and as chauvinistic. GOD IS A GOD FULL OF LOVE AND REASONING. LOVE EXIST FOR EVERYONE, NOT JUST FOR SOME. LOVE IS UNIVERSAL and should not threaten and scare anybody UNLESS the ones threatened are having secret HOMOSEXUAL FEELINGS and THEY ARE AFFRAID OF ADMIT THAT TO THEMSELVES.
    PART OF BEING A MAN OR A WOMAN is being able to deal with the problems IN A MATURE way. IS DEFINED BY SEXUAL PREFERENCES. SO PLEASE GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 12/10/2008 6:32:36 PM

      First comment, let's not insult these "ignorant chauvinistic redneck men and women" as you called them. I understand and share your frustration with some of these people. But just because we go to universities, are more accepting of gay marriage, etc. does not make us better than them. We have to show respect to earn respect and we should strive to do so.

      To the rest of your comment, you make a very important point that their are gay people is society and they are contributing members to society. People should appreciate your contributions and wonder how much more you could contribute if you could marry.

      However, it seems for California and for the people polled, people are more than happy to give you the rights and respect and in some cases have already done so. People just don't want to call gay unions marriage. So, to the others posting here, the question is why honor gay unions yet not call it "marriage"?

    • Posted By: thedon @ 12/10/2008 5:40:59 PM

      So, according to your logic, I should be able to marry my sister, right? Give me a good reason why I shouldn't. We won't even have kids, so there's no risk of birth defects.

    • Posted By: ok4u @ 12/10/2008 5:21:51 PM

      And you're humble, too.

  • Posted By: TENNESSEE OBSERVER @ 12/06/2008 1:23:59 AM

    'The Newsweek poll is a POLL OF MORONS. There is only ONE RACE, the HUMAN race.
    It takes a MALE and a FEMALE union to reproduce. Homosexuals don't reproduce - THEY RECUIT!
    The laws of the universe don't change. No egg meeting sperm - NO REPRODUCTION!
    As a farmer, take it from me - WHAT DON'T REPRODUCE AND MULTIPLY GETS CUT DOWN AND BURNED!
    Perhaps that is why the great farmer of the universe allows FIRE! to be the ever present companion of the
    NON REPRODUCING SEED, we humans call HOMOSEXUAL!, the master farmer calls REBELLION!!!!

    • Posted By: jlaiz @ 12/10/2008 5:05:09 PM

      Dear Farmer: Do you have any children? I hope not. Your words are totally cold, empty and typical chauvinistic.
      No wonder why we have PEDOFILE MEN (basically straight) and hetero males that rape women and children.
      Please re-think ... because when you judge others...usually falls back into your children. NOBODY IS PERFECT
      I am sure you understand.

    • Posted By: NoteFromSELF @ 12/06/2008 6:14:17 AM

      Make sure you're not planting two different kinds of crops in one field. Oh, and don't eat shellfish. Don't wear different fabric materials at the same time. If times get tough, go ahead and sell your sister.

    • Posted By: NoteFromSELF @ 12/06/2008 6:09:00 AM

      Make sure you're not planting two kinds of crops in the same field. Don't eat shellfish. Don't mix fabrics. And DON'T pick and choose sins, zealot.

    • Posted By: NoteFromSELF @ 12/06/2008 1:55:47 AM

      The master farmer? I bet he doesn't get government subsidies. As MBUSDTeacher said, thank you for your comment. You're only furthering the gay marriage cause. And as a Christian myself, I think your zealotry is only hurting the ranks of Christianity.

    • Posted By: NoteFromSELF @ 12/06/2008 1:48:10 AM

      Tennessee Observer, so how much government subsidies do you get for YOUR farm?

      Recuit? You must mean RECRUIT. Unless you mean reCUTE and you're probably against plastic surgery so you'll never be

    • Posted By: MBUSDTeacher @ 12/06/2008 1:42:08 AM

      Thank you for your comment =). People like you (i.e. Fred Phelps) help the marriage equality cause in ways you can't even imagine when you air your hate in public forums such as these.

    • Posted By: Datax @ 12/06/2008 1:39:07 AM

      How do I recuit? I WANT TO RECUIT!

  • Posted By: jlaiz @ 12/10/2008 4:57:12 PM

    CORRECTION:
    PART OF BEING A MAN OR A WOMAN is being able to deal with the problems IN A MATURE way. IS NOT DEFINED BY SEXUAL PREFERENCES. SO PLEASE GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: apothecarycaitlyn @ 12/10/2008 3:34:39 PM

    Think about this:
    1) Why do we get married?
    2) What is the definition of a man? Or a woman?
    3) Are homosexuals unable to reproduce?

    Just short of 9 months from now I will enter a heterosexual marriage. Never once have I justified my wedding because I am a woman and he is a man. I'm getting married because I love him and I want to spend my life with him. Period. It has nothing to do with religion or civil rights or taxes. A gay person is capable of the same love and the same desire for lifelong companionship. What's the difference?

    What makes me a woman? I have a vagina, which makes me female and the physiological hormones and psychological processes to match. Not all people are born with matching parts to their hormones or psychological feelings. Some people are born with a mixture. This is not breaking news. We've all heard of humans being born with half a penis and half a vagina. . So what if someone was born with a woman's brain and a penis? What if GOD made them that way? Human reproduction is not perfect and neither are humans.

    Which brings me to my next point; homosexual people are not infertile, they just can't biologically have children TOGETHER. A perfect example of this is the "man" who just gave birth and is expecting another on the way. Homosexual does not equal infertile.

    One last question: How does homosexuality affect you? Does it come to your house at night and abduct your children? Does it steal your car? Or your money? Does it impose physical harm on you? Harass and reject you? Only if you ARE homosexual might any of these apply. We live in a world polluted with terrorism, drug abuse, senseless violence, rape and molestation, poverty and starvation. Of all the conflict that exists in the world, why do we put so much energy into trying to prevent two people from marrying to love one other for the rest of their lives?

  • Posted By: bkrummel @ 12/10/2008 2:01:00 PM

    I don't think accepting gay marriage would be opening Pandora's Box. Most people supporting gay marriage view marriage as a deep, loving, committed relationship between equal partners and would probably reject any type of marriage that is not such a relationship or is well outside current relationship norms. So you won't be able to marry your sister, a child, your dog, etc. as such marriages would be ridiculous. Polygamist may seek marriage rights and have a little support, but polygamy would only be excepted if it was a committed relationship between equal consenting partners, which isn't always the case. Also, polygamy is sufficiently outside current norms (and rare) that they probably wouldn't get the right to marry multiply partners just because gay people have the right to marry. So I think that concern about this Pandora's Box scenario where if gays can marry then every other silly type of marriage will follow is just an irrational fear.

  • Posted By: MylovefortheLord!! @ 12/10/2008 1:06:19 PM

    oh by the way, can i marry my sister???

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/10/2008 1:11:51 PM

      No...your kids would be even more pinheaded than you are, mate, and that would be a crying shame.

  • Posted By: MylovefortheLord!! @ 12/10/2008 1:05:05 PM

    Hey, why does Marriage has to be between 2 people?? Who to say that a marriage has to be a couple?? Heck, i like to have 3 or more husbands!! The more the Merrier!!

    Just wait, that'll be next in near future!! Polygamist will have a field day!!!

    oh by the way, can i marry my sister??

  • Posted By: MylovefortheLord!! @ 12/10/2008 1:02:16 PM

    Hey, why does a marriage have to even be between 2 people?? Heck, let's me have 3 husbands or MORE!!! The more the merrier!!
    Just wait, that'll be next!!! Polygamiest will have a field day!!!

  • Posted By: dkeys @ 12/10/2008 11:06:41 AM

    The bottom line is that wherever the people have been allowed to vote gay marriage has been defeated and the natural definition of marriage as the union of one man and one woman has been upheld. Gay marriage has advanced only through judicial activism at the expense of the states' rights to enact their own laws through democratically elected representatives. This is detrimental to our Republic.

    Genesis 2:24-25 certainly reveals marriage to be, by the Creator's intention, a union of one man and one
    woman. From the teaching of Jesus, Matthew 19:1-8 teaches that marriage is based on Creation; and that at the beginning the Creator `made them male and female,' (vs. 4) for the very purpose of marriage. By contrast, homosexual behavior is clearly defined as sin. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? "Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders," says 1st Corinthians 6:9 (NIV).

    Gay unions are characteristicly more transient, more violent and less stable for children. It is bad public policy to promote behavior God condemns.

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/10/2008 11:42:23 AM

      "Gay unions are characteristicly more transient, more violent and less stable for children."

      Link? Or did you just yank that "fact" out of your ***?

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/10/2008 11:16:45 AM

      "It is bad public policy to promote behavior God condemns."

      Why? Because it might put off your dreams of theocracy?

  • Posted By: Fanny_Craddock @ 12/09/2008 10:03:11 PM

    Me and my boyfriend have been married for over ten years now and we're very happy together. We've brought up two children together (my boyfriends children) and I'm sure they've turned out fine. We attend church regularly, it was our Priest who offered to marry us (I played the bride). Marriage is for everybody who is capable of love. Christianity is all about loving your neighbour, this law is an insult to our faith.

    Please don't repeat the "We just want to protect Marriage", that's a total fabrication and everyone can see straight through it. Homosexual were considered evil 2000 years ago because they were viewed as rapists who were incapable of love.

    • Posted By: technologist @ 12/09/2008 11:34:07 PM

      Homosexuality is still considered evil by many - guess what! That hasn't changed.
      * At peace with sin at war with God
      * at war with sin at peace with God
      Loving your brother DOES NOT mean tolerating homosexuality. Love IS NOT tolerance. Go to Bible class.

      • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/10/2008 8:34:55 AM

        Why on Earth would I join your hate cult?

  • Posted By: technologist @ 12/09/2008 11:39:26 PM

    Love is NOT tolerance, grand mistake #1 by the left. Read the Bible.
    Love as tolerance is the Gramscian/Leftist secular attack on Christian America. SAY YOU WILL Tolerate or we will report
    you to the BAMA brown shirts!!

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/10/2008 8:32:46 AM

      "Love as tolerance is the Gramscian/Leftist secular attack on Christian America. "

      So what you're saying is that "Christian America" is based on hate and intolerance?

  • Posted By: vilaBoB @ 12/10/2008 4:11:33 AM

    They should have the right. I think that they need do be able to get married so they can face the "honey can you get me thats" and "honey, how come you can get it up for porn but you can't get it up for me?" and the incessant questioning you about the thing they already know the answer to but pretend they don't just so they can corner you if you lie to them bring it back up five years later when trying to explain to that MONEY GRUBBING BITCH THAT I WAS ONLY RUBBING THAT GIRL'S FEET BECAUSE IT WAS SPAZIMING!.

    yeah jump on othe bandwagon kids...your future awaits.

  • Posted By: predicament @ 12/10/2008 1:12:25 AM

    IBoy tells his dad- Jack & Bob go to a different church than we go to, but hey go every sunday. Kids at school say they want to be married I think they are really nice people. What do you think Dad ? Dad- stay away from those 2 - they are different from us. But Dad - it's not like the others they are the saame color and from this country. Dad- they have no business in ourneighborhood- they don't have the right to be married to each other. Oh wow Dad I didn't know that. Wait till I get in class monday - we have been studying the constittution and declaration of independence. I will tell thre class
    that not everybody has the same rights. Hey Dad who tells us what rights each bunch of people have since there are different ways to get the liberty and pursuit of happiness and equal stuff we have been talking about at school. I did not know that different church people that say they believe in Jesus and God did not also believe the same way. Jack & Bob say they believe in Jesus and God and go to their church where some women go that want to be married. Dad - just tell me what to say to my class monday - I bet they would like to have you tell them about Jack & Bob.

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