A Gay Marriage Surge

Gay marriage has to do with two consenting *adults* wanting to share their lives together. Bringing up pedophilia doesn't help your argument and has nothing to do with it (although society isn't helping *that* at all by doing things like marketing lingerie for 9 year olds and sexualizing toddlers in pageants). The moral values that are eroding in America have little to do with homosexuality. Why not instead focus on parents not teaching their children responsibility or respect for themselves or others, or the pervasive use of heterosexual sex or implied infidelity being used to sell everything from mustard to television sets. It seems like the heteros are doing way more to erode moral values than anyone else.

i do believe your IQ is Minus 5.

Minus5 No educated person believes there is any possible connection between the love of two consenting adults of legal age, and the sexual abuse of a minor by a predatory adult. If you cannot see this, then it would be very hard to brring anything to the table. It is comprehensively documented that by far the majority of child abuse, including sexual, emotional and physical, is perpetrated by the child's own heterosexual parent, or close family member or friend. Homosexual males are not interested in little boys, we are attracted to masculinity, and want our partner to love us with the intensity with which we love them. Little boys are neither masculine, nor capable of meaningful consent and do not awaken even the slightest sexual desire. On the contrary, it is repugnant to us. Most of us have young family members and would be outraged if anyone were to abuse them in any way. We are as appalled by sexual abuse as you are, and as are the large majority of heterosexuals.

You say you cannot understand the love that a male can have for another male, or a female for another, that would become so intense that it would blossom into a sexual attraction, but this is because you yourself are not a homosexual. If you are possessed of the gift of imagination, try and consider the intensity of your own sexual attraction to and love for your opposite sex partner, if you have one. This is how it is for the homosexual. The only difference, for us, it is a person of the same instead of the opposite sex.

You portray homosexuality is the erosion of public morals, such as to suggest that you believe we homoseuxals should just jolly well marry someone of the opposite sex, regardless of whether they harbour any feeling for that person. Is this what you did, or will do? Are you with an opposite sex partner out of a civic responsibility to honour God and to procreate the species as a sole motivation, or do you have actual human feelings of sexual attraction to go with it? Do you advocate a homosexual man marrying a woman on your orders, a woman whom he loves not in any way, and feels nothing for, a woman who may well love him intensely and would be hurt every day of her life by his failure to love her? How are they going to have children? What sort of example is it to children to witness a doting wife being rejected every day by a husband who married her only because he was told that is what he was supposed to do? I doubt very much whether you will be with your own opposite sex partner for any reason other than sexual attraction as the prime natural motivator, and love of that person, and a desire to bring children into this world and love them with all your heart.

And let's not forget that the Bible was written by men, and selectively edited by other men to promote their own agendas. People who claim to have a direct line to God or to know His intentions are being blasphemous beyond belief!

"and if i hear one more civil rights movement reference this black man is gonna have to defend his people from your homosexual slander...YOU ARE NOT PART OF MY STRUGGLE! "

I can see your point. You just care about YOUR rights, and the gays want everyone to have rights.

They're eglatarians, and you're a useless bigot with a bad case of "dog in the manger".

"im black but this might be the first situation where seperate and equal might work...."

I see. You have your rights now, so **** everyone else.

It's good to see you aren't a hypocrite, right?

"gay marraige was legal int he city of sodom ..."

The bible says nothing of the kind. Kindly stop putting words in God's mouth, mate. I hear that pisses him off.

Whoa hold on their buddy, if TV is the problem, then use the censorship chip, I personally think the younger generation is great.....And blaming schools, well , when was the last time you went into help a school program.....and what does this have to do with allowing same sex marrages....I think that we do need a diologue on this subject, but let's do it with facts, figures and logic, not biased emotion clap-trap. Before we have this dialogue ask yourself a few question. 1. Why am I so afraid of this? 2. Where did this fear come from? 3. Will it really effect my lifesytle and if so how? How will this effect society in whole( or will it?)? And please don't misquote the Bible, if you do, those of us will start to correct you or start quoting things out of the Bible that you don't realize are in their and will probably shock you down to your little toes. Yeah, I'm for any consulting adults to do what they think is best for themselves and their communities.......Hey, just to show you what a bigot I am, Have you ever noticed when Gays move into a community the housing properties go up in price......maybe this is a way to solve the housing crunch situation.....okay, just trying to add a bit of humor here....Happy Hoidays

If you knew anything about the history of marriage, you would know that it existed LONG before the Christian God did, and had absolutely nothing to do with religion or children, and everything to do with property and politics.

Separation of church and state should mean that the government sanctions CIVIL MARRIAGE. Religious and non-religious intenties can call it what they want.

"giving homosexual partnerships the same special benefits as heterosexual ones has nothing to do with tolerance."

Of course it does.

What I think is really ironic, is the fact that the Left succeded in electing the man that doesn't support Gay Marriage, but have the audacity to call everyone else bigotef if they don't support it.
Really what planet are they from?

As for Prop 8, the majortiy of the people's voices were heard via their votes....so get over it.

If they people were wrong on the vote for Prop 8, then they were wrong voting for Obama in the first place.

We'll see. The CA supreme court has agreed to hear the case.

So, we should annul the marrages of heterosexual couples who are sterile?

What's voting got to do with it? This is an issue concerning amendments IX and XIV. This is a judiciary issue. The courts will decide it.

The law is changing, and your religious beliefs are irrelevant.

Who's trying to take your freedom of speech away? Speak all you like.

Of course, we are equally free to laugh at you and mock you as a bigot.

Your approval is not required.

Wait. So your position is that all gays are child molestors?

Coherency is your friend, or your preaching will never be heeded, Reverend.

[Comment: ... I imagine how it was 40 years ago when interracial marriage wwas made legal.]

Interracial marriage was illegal in 1968? Wow, you coulda fooled me!

[Comment: ...Nothing new here. Comments about what is moral, God, religion... Certainly people do not like change. It is scary. ]

You are right about that. People are afraid of change. They are afraid of anything they don't understand, which is, when you get right down to it, the root of this whole controversy. And, for those who are decrying the connection between marriage and sex - the two CANNOT be separated. Despite the fact that it feels good, the sole purpose of sexual intercourse is to populate the earth - to maintain the species. (Where do you suppose we would be if not for sex.) And yet, for all of that, homosexuality has been around for centuries (and if you'll pardon invoking religious sigificance here), God only knows how long. Within different societies it has been practice openly and covertly. Religion notwithstanding, it was even common during the 15th century which, if you studied your history, you will recall was controlled in Europe almost in its entirety, by Torquemada and his Spanish Inquisition.

That being said, I don't know that now giving legal standing to gay couples for tax and other business purposes is a matter of discrimination. After all, heterosexual couples have no such rights and many choose to live together for their entire lives.The only concession they might make to accommodate social neccessity is to draft a legal document stating their life partner has power of attorney and/or conservatorship should they become incapacitated and unable to make decisions, including life and death/medical, for themselves. Such relationships are not recognized as legal unions by the federal government and I don't see that a homosexual relationship should be given any greater recognition. This, in and of itself, might be deemed as giving priority privileges to a select group of people which would constitute a reverse discrimination.

While studies have shown a biological variant in the genetic makeup of homosexuals, they have yet to conclusively 'prove' that a person is "born gay" - that is, there has been no substantiated evidence that genetic differences which make one person heterosexual and another homosexual are not developed as a person matures, much the same as a person's blood type may not stabilize for several years after they are born.

But, regardless of whether a person is 'born gay' or not (I'll reserve my own opinion on that), they are born human and there is nothing in anybody's Bible that suggests the religious zealots should not conduct themselves with dignity toward others. I seem to recall something I read a long time ago ... "Judge not ...?" And then there's the part about, "Vengeance is mine ...?" So maybe it's time to put down the stones and return to your homes lest your Lord bend down and begin writing YOUR si

What part of "consenting adult" gives you so much trouble?

You definately are NOT a wise man!

Why should they? To satisfy your petty little hate? Good luck with that.