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  • Posted By: ginahollie @ 12/05/2008 8:49:47 PM

    Gays want american's to support and respect their right to be in a different kind of relationship. My response? A relationship is a two way street. Gays need to respect everybody elses right to call their different choose a different choice a different name- it's called "Legal Union." Maybe you've heard of it. If the gay community was smart they'd back off about a mile ago. Their on a path in life that is so unnatural and unappealing to people, the last thing they should be doing in aggravting and annoying during a finical crisis. I don't know of any other group of indiviuals who have behaved so manipulative and so self-righteous in a long time. Even if they have all the rights they want and then some. Their still in a totally loosing battle because I've never heard of something or a group declaring war against mother nature and winning. If I were them I'd start by taking a bucket and draining the atlantic dry before attempting to change mother nature.

    • Posted By: jrwelker @ 12/05/2008 9:58:37 PM

      Ginahollie,

      Your inability to spell--in spite of spelling checkers being built into browsers these days--suggests the lack of a proper education. 1) The definition of marriage has never been consistent. 150 years ago, or much less in some places, you would have been your husband's property with few legal rights. 2) Being lesbian or gay is not unnatural. Homosexuality exists in nature. It's been found in dozens of species. It appears to be a natural sexual variation. 3) In case you missed it, allowing same-sex marriage has actually helped the economies of many states, as thousands of same-sex couples, most of whom had been together many years if not decades, rushed to wed. It was a boon to the travel, catering, and floral arrangement industries. Did you miss that? We aren't declaring war against mother nature, ma'am. We're declaring war against prejudice. No one wants to get married in a church they aren't welcome at. We want the same rights and benefits that you have--which come with the state recognizing and protecting our long-term committed relationships.

      • Posted By: halifax@gmail.com @ 12/07/2008 10:59:53 AM

        You are so decieved. Please, please read the Bible it is the TRUTH. Who can base their lives on their own feelings or what they are taught from another mans thought's. God is the maker of the Universe and His ways and words are TRUTH... Our very laws and values are from the Word of God. He is the law giver and the giver of live. Find live in his TRUTH, if you would be challenged to read and give truth a chance.

  • Posted By: jrwelker @ 12/06/2008 8:17:09 PM

    RR:

    Disgust and loathing is hate. It is. And that's fine. Hate away.

    And you didn't refute a single one of my points. Not a single one. You fail to actually respond to other posters' comments as well. (And you failed to explain why you tried discrediting me my claiming I dangle participles.) Why can you not refute the arguments against you? Because, for all your visceral fear, hate--"disgust," if you will--you don't have a rational reason for it. That is, not without going back and arguing one of the points that can easily be countered. You don't need to rethink. You should. Go on thinking you're right. But all you have is a visceral and illogical reaction. Nothing more.

    And why is the insistence on same-sex marriage rights "heterophobic"? No one is taking any rights away from you. You can be disgusted by my 10-year relationship with my partner all you want. Civil rights laws designed to protect women, ethnic minorities, and religious minorities (and religion is a choice--you don't choose your religious heritage but you do choose to believe or not believe in its scriptures), don't stop anyone from hating those folks. They stop overt discrimination. Eventually we get things like women senators and African American presidents. It's called social progress. Learn to love it.

    • Posted By: halifax@gmail.com @ 12/07/2008 10:25:27 AM

      If disgust and loathing is hate, and I agree with you it is, then God hates the homosexual lifestyle because He said it is an abomination. The meaning of that is disguest. God hates the act of homosexual's it's not me saying it but God himself. If he can hate the act of homosexuals why wouldn't His followers. And I am saying the act not the actor or person. He loves us all and he did not make us or we were not born as homosexuals either. Because God does not tempt anyone with evil, that is Biblical also.

  • Posted By: Salty Dog @ 12/07/2008 10:24:43 AM

    In three states - California, Arizona and Florida, a majority of voters exercising their democratic right under the Constitution, voted to define marriage as the union between one man and one woman. Each voted that way for their own reason(s) as did the voters who voted against the measures.
    Leftists always spout they believe in the individual and their rights, individual freedoms but when voters do just that by voting a certain way that goes against THEIR beliefs, then they want to call timeout and say "they got it wrong". The people in California in a fair election "got it wrong" so this needs to be overturned.
    One person posted this below: "By denying rights to one group, you threaten your very own rights. I am straight, but to deny my fellows their right to live their own particular lives will eventually come back to bite me in my life.". So we should not deny the right to a large group of people who want to have sex with underage kids? Animals? Where do we draw the line?

  • Posted By: Salty Dog @ 12/07/2008 10:23:04 AM

    In three states - California, Arizona and Florida, a majority of voters exercising their democratic right under the Constitution, voted to define marriage as the union between one man and one woman. Each voted that way for their own reason(s) as did the voters who voted against the measures.
    Leftists always spout they believe in the individual and their rights, individual freedoms but when voters do just that by voting a certain way that goes against THEIR beliefs, then they want to call timeout and say "they got it wrong". The people in California in a fair election "got it wrong" so this needs to be overturned.
    One person posted this below: "By denying rights to one group, you threaten your very own rights. I am straight, but to deny my fellows their right to live their own particular lives will eventually come back to bite me in my life.". So we should not deny the right to a large group of people who want to have sex with underage kids? Animals? Where do we draw the line?

  • Posted By: Roy Rogers @ 12/06/2008 4:03:14 PM

    Exactly what "law" makes my disgust for your homosexual lifestyle illegal?

    As I clearly stated before, nobody hates you, you can live what ever "lifestyle" you want. You just can't force me to accept you or not be disgusted by you by "making up" laws as you go along.

    The People voted to protect marriage, and none of your whining, or attacks will change that.

    • Posted By: lkkharrat @ 12/07/2008 10:18:30 AM

      and furthermore, just because we do not aggree with your phylosophies, that does not mean we are ignorants, but it shows that you need more help. no still means no

  • Posted By: dinka49 @ 12/07/2008 10:09:08 AM

    If God wanted same sex marriages he would have made Adam and Steve or Eva and Ada not Adam and Eve.... In God's eyes they are not married. .....Also one last thought California voted against it.... That tells me that Christians and their beliefs still outnumber the gay population.....The people have voted

  • Posted By: halifax@gmail.com @ 12/07/2008 10:06:28 AM

    Contrary to the opinion of so many people there can be no separation of church and state, our laws are all based on bibical principles (with the exception of abortion). As it should be, when we start moving away from these principles we get in trouble as a nation. And those who say that we are not a nation set up and based on these principles all I can say is study it out for yourself, don't take everything that you hear or read on the internet as truth. The only truth we have is from God, read your bible and you will find the answer to the questions, and decision's we must make. What's right way to live and what is sin and temptation. Please don't believe what other people tell you. We must all study the gudeline God gave us to live by to know for ourselves how to live our lives. We all as individual's are and will be held accountable before God for how we live our lives. We can't blame someone else because it is our responsiblity to find the answer . And when it is written in the all inspired Word of God we just can't disagree with that. We can't take the Bible and believe the parts that fit our lives, we must fit our lives to the Wors of God. Love is not always tellling someone they are right or supporting our loved one in a sinful life style, that is not what the Word teaches. We either believe in all the Bible says, or we don't believe any of it. If we pick what we want and say the rest isn't true, is only saying well thats not what I accept because it doesn't fit my lifestyle. Love is not sex and can not be defined as such. We are not born as anything but human beings with a freedom to decide if we live according to the principles of the Bible or not. If we are believer's or not. It is our choice, but it is also my commission and every other Christian to tell other's about the truth, you can accept or reject, but please read the Bible and decide for yourself, don't live by other uninformed peoples ideas. Because they are just that another human beings ideas....you need to know what the God of the Universe has to say about life and how we need to live it.

  • Posted By: nothingbutlove @ 12/07/2008 9:34:54 AM

    Wow, it's absolutely amazing to me the overwhelming amount of ignorance in this world and how people have'nt learned a thing from their past mistakes... Jesus was all about understanding, kindness, love and nothing less... Those are not his word's, they are man's word's who rewrote the bible and manipulated his writting's, those word's are from satan who was of hate... You had better get it together before you meet your maker... God make's it very clear "I Shall Not Judge" and "When You Come Befor Me I Shall Judge You In The Manner You Have Judge Other's"... If I was you i'd get down on your knee's and beg him for forgiveness before it's to late...

  • Posted By: ONEPERSON @ 12/07/2008 9:00:05 AM

    no way this could be legal its not even normal. Everything created can reproduce its own self but the gay

  • Posted By: foghat @ 12/07/2008 8:52:26 AM

    What right has been denied??? Sign a contract, It's the same thing... Gay people can't be married God ordained marrige and he said the homosexual life style is an abomination. If you dont't like what he said take it up with him!

  • Posted By: itsumama @ 12/07/2008 8:34:25 AM

    I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but WHO would CHOOSE to be homosexual??? To CHOOSE to be a pariah of society? To CHOOSE to be maligned, hated, put down, even killed????

    By denying rights to one group, you threaten your very own rights. I am straight, but to deny my fellows their right to live their own particular lives will eventually come back to bite me in my life.

    To the commentors that say "a child grows up and learns what they are taught", they themselves demonstrate this theory by continuing the close minded hate that they knew as children.

  • Posted By: marcolance @ 12/07/2008 8:30:31 AM

    I believe in separtion of church and state. keep it out of our goverment .

  • Posted By: marcolance @ 12/07/2008 8:26:47 AM

    I'm for gay union we all have had our civil rights .It's time they do also.

  • Posted By: speedcycle @ 12/07/2008 8:07:07 AM

    Equal rights for all couples gay or straight. Take religion out of the picture, this is about equal rights for loving couples.My partner and I have been together 20 yrs. Should something happen either one of us the other should have the same rights as a surving spouse of a straight couple. If hospitalized I should not have to produce a legal contract (costly) showing I can visit and make decisions for him.
    If you do want to bring religion into the picture and say that being gay is a choice so there should not be equal rights, think about this. No person is born into any religion. They are taught from a young age about whatever religion their parents choose to raise them in. They choose to believe in god/jesus/allah etc. so because someone believes in something different then the religion of your "choice" should they not have equal rights?

  • Posted By: BonF @ 12/07/2008 7:39:33 AM

    I really don't get it. Why do people care if two consenting adults want to get married? I have been married to a wonderful husband for 31 years. If others can find that sort of bond and love, I would just be very happy for them. Don't we want more love, kindness and tolerence for individual differences?

  • Posted By: JohnWilkinson @ 12/07/2008 6:43:42 AM

    Gay Marriage is a wellspring of evil,"ROT". Any person who is so -lost- as to go into that teritory with there life has certainly been hooked by Master Deception. That, my friend is the Devils Ploy. Our Nation aught to VOTE on this matter Nation wide and outlaw the "stink" from Coast to coast. THAT will go a long ways in estaBLISHING A "BETTER DAY" AND A "clear democract". 2012 i plan TO RUN FOR president (TigerIN@vp).
    WilkinsonJboxingII@Hotmail.com SHOW my email if it's allowerd.

  • Posted By: slapyourself @ 12/07/2008 4:21:47 AM

    This same sex marriage bullshit has got to stop! Why they want to bring their filth to the pulic for? No one is born that way either! How can anyone be born like that? When we are born, we don't know what are interest are. We have no thoughts on sex when we're born. How obsurd! Man, there are alot of messed up people in this world. It's really a shame. Their bullshit has already started an uproar. What do they want? WAR? Our children will grow up thinking it's ok to be gay HOMOS!!! Children live what they learn, and they learn what they live. And that's a fact!

  • Posted By: wtuley @ 12/07/2008 4:08:11 AM

    If the author had any intestinal fortitude, he would attach an online survey to his concoction. This would demonstrate whether there is such a groundswell of public sympathy for gay marriage, or if his article is more of a vain attempt to convince a skeptical readership of the emperor's sartorial resplendence.

  • Posted By: wtuley @ 12/07/2008 4:04:21 AM

    If the author had any guts he would ask for an online poll right here and now to show if there really is support for gay marriage or if, as I feel, the article is just newspeak in an effort to convince his readers that the emperor is sartorially resplendent

  • Posted By: leftsuk @ 12/07/2008 3:28:09 AM

    what a bunch of bull#$%,,,
    Marriage is by definition between a man and a woman....part of marriage is the ability to procreate, so no matter if you think you are married you will never be accepted in any place in any part of the world or life with most epole that you are an equal...even if you sneek it into law...we all really know what you are...and so do you...time will take care of this...truth will prevaile... nature will do its course...and i sure the hell wouldnt want to be on that side of things when it does...good luck...

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