Mrs. Kramer Vs. Mrs. Kramer

i feel strongly that the non birth mother has every right to that child i have friends who have recieved custody of a child that is niether of theirs the mother (his former girl friend) lives with addiction and in an unhealthy lifestyle however his wife and him chose to fight for his (daughter) they reseved full custody why is this any different? the only difference i can see is sexual preference look at the facts the woman deserves visits if not full custody.a parent is someone who loves and cares for the needs of a child.i think that fact has been lost in politics.

I hope Newweek follows this story over time, in ten years will Miller still be an ex-gay? The statisics say it's not very likely. She is bi-sexual (has shown by her behavior over time that she is attracted to both men and women) chosing to live 'straight' - with a history of Mental illness evident in this piece. This child needs both her mommies (being around gay people will not make her gay!) and recieve the love they both have for her.

If Jenkins has no parental rights to Isabella, I wonder why Miller had no trouble accepting child support from her. Perhaps she told herself it was afinancial gift from a former friend. You can't have it both ways! If you are receiving financial support from the person who was sharing a family life with you, you are conceding that this person is in some way the co-parent.

lisa miller sounds like a nut and she has probably caused more emotional scars to isabella than ms. jenkins ever could. the fact that she's a religious zealot is proof enough but then theres the history of mental disorders in her family, the sexual and physical abuse she says she endured, the suicide attempt....jenkins ought to be the one with primary custody. and she most certainly does have a right to be in isabella's life - it's partially because of her that isabella was born. father's of children who are born as a result of invitro routinely have visitation when there is a divorce. why this woman is so opposed to another adult to love, nurture and support her child is beyond me.

I do feel sorry for the woman not allowed to see the child, however, if they were to have stayed not married and her partner had the baby, there wouldn't be any question as to who the child would recognize as "Mom". She now takes the seat of being "Aunt" or a good friend. Ban gay marriages, adhere to adoption rules and if you want a child and do not want to bare it the good old fashion way, adopt! There are many wanting children looking for a parent to give them love and shelter. You set yourself up for failure when you make the wrong choices in life. Think about it.

Why is this news? Anybody with sisters knows that this is just normal behavior for women. Not that the bickering of two women isn't news worthy, its just that these two are nobodies looking for 15 minutes of fame. News worth reporting would be if they returned the child to the sperm bank with a note saying it didn't fit, or some other excuse.

Poor little girl. Well, she's not the first kid with nutty parents, gender aside. This story happens all over the country with multi gender households splintering and no help from a rational legal system. We need an overhaul of parental definitions and duties and contracts between child and parent that are enforceable.

What a heartbreaking story. Miller obviously has severe mental issues that should be addressed. She's in contempt of court and no one has bothered to penalize her for that? Her instability is going to cause the little girl far more long-lasting damage than a loving, homosexual mother ever will.

Her lifestyle wasn't "fundamentally wrong" when she got in bed with a woman, now was it?

"Her biological mother has racked up thousands of dollars in fines for all the visitation dates she's failed to comply with, but the placid schoolteacher is not worried about her contempt of court, or the mounting fines. She believes God will protect her. " I have to add that Miller perplexes and bothers me to fright. To have mounting bills and believe that God will help is the very way that we are handling everything nowadays. May God bless Miller and our creditors.

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Whether a union is civil or what is called a marriage, all people have to sustain themselves through emotional hardship such as the article highlights, but the article doesn't give clear, black and white answers that many believe. It does however show us the heartaches of loving someone. I hope people can be moved with compassion for the people involved because this could happen to you, your chldren, grandchildren, family, neighbors, anyone.

My 2 year-old was in the care of these 2 woman in VT; he received excellent care. I witnessed the oddities & paranoia of Lisa Miller myself. Isabella was present and involved when these behaviors were displayed. On one occasion upon enter the Miller-Jenkins home, Lisa pulled Isabella in front of herself when I spoke to her, as if using the child as a shield. Lisa soon left and Janet care for my son for over 4 years until we left VT