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New Era, New Worry

New tests for Down syndrome could lead to more abortions and less support for families.

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  • Posted By: angied78 @ 11/03/2009 2:16:51 AM

    I have a downs baby girl and I wanted to know first hand before she was born so that my family, and I could prepare for her arrival. we got all the doctors lined up to meet our special princess. God only blesses wonderful families rich, poor, or middleclass with down syndrome children. they have a right to be here just like anyone else. I DO NOT think doctors should suggest termination it is a horrible thing to suggest to a expecting mother.

  • Posted By: angied78 @ 11/03/2009 2:15:23 AM

    I have a downs baby girl and I wanted to know first hand before she was born so that my family, and I could prepare for her arrival. we got all the doctors lined up to meet our special princess. God only blesses wonderful families rich, poor, or middleclass with down syndrome children. they have a right to be here just like anyone else. I DO NOT think doctors should suggest termination it is a horrible thing to suggest to a expecting mother.

  • Posted By: specialmom @ 12/11/2008 2:46:11 PM

    Even with prenatal testing trying to eradicate every "abnormality" out there flukes will oocur. Then there are conditions that can't be detected inutero. So as someone else asked, are we hitler? Of course we cried when we found out our son had Down syndrome, after all WE are "normal". Every one should meet my son. He is a delightful toddler, in a regular preschool class. He will charm you with his smile & sense of humor. He speaks in 2 & 3 word snippets, but I have yet to meet someone who can't understand him.Does he learn slower? Sure but he will teach you patience, persistence, kindness,love, humor,selflessness & so much more.We should all be blessed with such lessons in our lives. Maybe we need these special people in our world to counteract so much evil that we see.

    • Posted By: ipanemagirl @ 12/15/2008 1:52:46 PM

      I understand you love your child, and thats wonderful...but have you thought about what will he do when you are no longer around to care for him? Will he be a happy camper when he is institutionalized or wandering the streets? Its not fun to have people stare at you either, as DS are not pretty to look at; ever thought how life is for them? and what future they have when they can never hold a job that would pay enough to survive, and could they even survive on their own without help??? I think one should think more about the quality of their life, instead of ourselves when deciding whether to keep or abort such a life. Not all lives are meaningful....

      • Posted By: MominSC @ 05/05/2009 5:26:44 PM

        Wow....you are entitled to your opinion, but you are a piece of work.....go check out my blog and see my beautiful, smart, funny and successful child. www.rrmfreeman.blogspot.com

      • Posted By: nast @ 04/02/2009 4:39:51 PM

        I am only now reading your comment obout ds children and how it would be better off to abort. Why dont you do some reading on the subject before making such judgement! Our 4th child has ds but no medical problems he will be taken care of when were gone by our savings and our faimly . I hope that YOU or SOMEONE close to you never becomes disable and cant take of theirselve only then will you truly understand that any one of us can become the same way as our son is should we kill you or instutional you because you cannot funtion at what society says you should. because you will cost alot more money to take care then our son he's not sick even if he were you dont foot the bill we do. so to anyone who is pregant or has a baby who has ds they are loving and a mean bone in thier body and will always make you smile and YES they are BEAUTIFUL. I hope you dont get disfirgure or lose a limb with your attitude you wont be able to make it in this world.

      • Posted By: alovingmother @ 12/17/2008 12:49:35 AM

        I really can't believe the comments I am reading. My son is almost 16 months old and full of pure sunshine. I believe he blesses everyone he meets. I invite you ipanemagirl to contact me and meet him, he will even bless you. Everyone( and I'm not just saying this )Everyone who sees him thinks he is a beautiful boy, He is very smart, learns quickly and brings joy to those around him. We love and nurture him just like we did his big sister and he will do all the things she does and all he sets his mind to do. I am sad at your reaction to people who may be "different" from you, not for them , but for you. You will be in my prayers

  • Posted By: downs lover @ 12/30/2008 4:28:42 PM

    WOW YOU AND I SOUND AS IF WE HAVE A LOT IN COMMON THE BIRTH OF MY THIRD CHILD A SON WITH DOWNS HAS BEEN THE HIGHLIGHT OF MY LIFE. AND WHILE THEY DOCTOR'S NEVER CAME RIGHT OUT AND SAID ABORTION THEY SURE WANTED TO DO EVERY TEST AVAILABLE I WOULDN'T LET THEM FOR FEAR OF LOSING MY SON I WANTED A THIRD CHILD NO MATTER WHAT AND I AM SO PROUD TO BE HIS MOMMY HE IS ALMOST 7 YEARS OLD AND HE'S STILL MY BABY .

  • Posted By: starryQsky @ 12/26/2008 12:17:30 AM

    We must take a long hard look at why people are deciding to snuff out the life of Down Syndrome kids just because of DS. Are we not supposed to love our children no matter what? Through sickness, hardships and medical problems. Do people secretly or subconsciously want kids that will not cause them embarrassment? That they can parade and brag about. This is superficial and immoral. "Yes son I love you but ....if you looked or acted a little different than what we think is the norm even through no fault of yours then I probably would not want you" Would this statement be acceptable in a civilized, moral society? Should it matter how our kids look or if they are an inconvenience? What kind of love do you hold for your children and where does the basis for this love originate? Is it truly unconditional or are you fooling yourself?
    Children should not be loved because they: look like us, are physically beautiful, will carry on our legacy, complete us, make us happy, are smart, are good at something, will make us look good etc. etc.

    You can figure out the answer to the reason why you should love your children ???.hint (if you have to figure it out then you don???t know).

  • Posted By: ipanemagirl @ 12/15/2008 1:30:07 PM

    Why spend money on a research for Down syndrome which can be avoided with abortion? This money could be better spent on helping normal children do better in school.or curing other diseases. This pro life idea is too ridiculous in a world that has already too many people in it and is becoming increasingly doomed by it. God does not make babies, you do, by having sex.Just accept a simple reality, its true!

    • Posted By: ShamanStacy @ 12/23/2008 11:59:57 PM

      You would find the world a dark and gray place if there were only "normal" people in it. It's the people who are not considered "normal" that give the world it's color. Who are you to decided what "normal" is anyway? Someone told you you were in charge of everyone's lives? Try living your own and let the rest of us live ours the way WE see fit. Everyone has value and an inherent worth. Pro choice is leaving that choice up to the woman who is pregnant and anyone else she chooses. Good thing it's not you. Your "reality" is yours and my 'reality" is mine and sometimes we share each others reality... but I'm guessing it's not that often. Blessed be~

  • Posted By: bluemoss63 @ 12/17/2008 12:49:40 AM

    It's people like ipanemagirl that do not have an understanding of real life. as a mother of a 10 yo son with DS, I wouldn't trade him for the world. there are no garantees in life and ANYONE can have a child with a disability including ipanemagirl. look at all the kids diagnosed at 2-5 yo with autism - should they all be killed because their disability showed up after they were born? everyone has a choice to make and do what is right for them. ignorance is not an excuse to tell people what to do. learn about real life and then come talk to the parents that have kids with a disability. hopefully ipanemagirl, you will not have to go thru any of this but you are at risk just like the rest of the world. remember that CP is something that can happen to a baby during the birthing process. you nor anyone else are guaranteed a so called "normal" child. maybe the answer is you shouldn't have a child at all to save the rest of us in this world.

  • Posted By: MotherBear @ 12/16/2008 4:38:10 PM

    Please don't tell me, ipanemagirl, that "DS are not pretty to look at." People stop me on the street to tell me how beautiful my daughter, who has Down sydrome, is.

  • Posted By: MsLee @ 12/16/2008 12:22:47 PM

    I am the proud mom of a 7 year old boy with Down syndrome. I found out during my pregnancy that he would have Down syndrome and even though I am pro-choice, I chose to bring him into the world. His disability brings some unique challenges, yes. But his charismatic personality, razor sharp wit, and tenaciousness bring so many more joys. Having a child with a disabilty has showed me that we are all of equal value and I desire for him the same thing I desire for his brother who does not have a disabilit: happiness, self-esteem, and fulfiling relationships. There is no reason that the quality of a person with Down syndrome's life is any less than that of a so-called "normal" person, and who determines what is "normal" anyway?

  • Posted By: Danay @ 12/16/2008 11:54:31 AM

    The comments thus far sadden me. My 36 year old Down syndrome daughter has a wonderful life. She does not suffer. She is a high school and community college graduate, has a job and a very full social life. Her life is different than the lives of my other children, but that doesn't mean it is worse. I have made arrangements for her if she should outlive me (as any parent should) and there is a network of people who love her and support her. I simply cannot accept that we should decide who is "worthy" of life and who is not.

  • Posted By: ipanemagirl @ 12/15/2008 1:23:54 PM

    I am outraged at this article. We should be doing our best to prevent bringing handicapped children to this world, and here you are promoting it. We have already reached a population maximum that we should not be willing to include humans that can barely take care of themselves....I find this cruel, especially since we can now avoid this by testing and wait to have a normal child instead. Same for spina bifida and cerebral palsey, and other avoidable abnormalities. I think doctors are right in discouraging these kinds of births!

  • Posted By: starwatcher777 @ 12/08/2008 2:22:49 AM

    IT is somewhat refreshing to finally see something both the Pro-Life Group and Pro-Choice group can agree on.

    Is down syndrome a binary condition, or is it something you can have in degrees?

    • Posted By: vern111 @ 12/13/2008 2:17:05 AM

      All people are different. There is a wide range of outcomes. Some people with Down syndrome are highly functional and can even live on their own. Others will take longer to learn things.

      But today's educational opportunities and the higher expectations schools have of kids with Down syndrome mean that they will be able to achieve a lot.

  • Posted By: jorbry @ 12/08/2008 4:33:15 PM

    The day my baby brother was born both of my parents cried. The other children in the family did not understand why. He was just a baby to us. The day that he died I think I cried harder than I have ever cried. The tears at his birth were for all of the things my parents never thought that he would have. The day that he died the tears were for the special gift that was leaving my life and the lives of my children. No one would suggest that more children be born Downs, it is a different road for them and one that may be hard to understand. The previous writer doesn't really seem to understand that the gift is ours, the burden of the situation is on the downs individual more than the family. If there were a treatment to cure downs who wouldn't give their child that chance, but there isn't a treatment and the reality is there may never be one. Why shouldn't anyone be allowed to appreciate someone without it being over analyzed. I will always think of my brother as a gift from god, he gave me hope, appreciation, courage and understanding, the list is endless. But it didn't stop with me, he always gave my children that.

    • Posted By: vern111 @ 12/13/2008 2:15:33 AM

      Jorbry,
      There are many researchers in the United States working on a pharmaceutical treatment for Down syndrome. Human trials have begun in Colorado on the use of an Alzheimer's drug, memantine, to improve the memory of people with Down syndrome. A new institute--the Linda Crinic Institute--just opened with $35 million in funding at the University of Colorado. Stanford also has a research institute for Down syndrome.

      I am very hopeful that a treatment will be found for people with Down syndrome. We're not talking about a "cure," but about a drug they will be able to take that will improve their memory and cognition.

      So talk to your Congresspeople about increasing the amount of federal money spent on Down syndrome research. Currently, out of $26 billion, only $13 million go to Down syndrome--a scandalously low figure considering there are 300,000 people with Down syndrome in this country.

  • Posted By: vern111 @ 12/13/2008 2:10:27 AM

    I'm also the mother of a little boy with Down syndrome. He is a wonderful child and I cannot imagine life without him. It makes me very sad to think that there are parents out there who think they "cannot do it" and choose to terminate their pregnancy. I was devastated when I discovered that my baby would have Down syndrome, but my fear came from total ignorance. I knew nobody with Down syndrome and I was afraid that I would spend the rest of my life caring for a disabled child. Well, today my son goes to our neighborhood school where he is fully included in a typical classroom. He has a wonderful aide who helps him and he is doing really well. He can speak very well--his vocabulary is in the 97% percentile of typical children!!--he is learning to read, he can use a computer, he loves music, he is very active. If somebody had painted THIS picture to me when I was in the hospital, I wouldn't have cried half as much. What expectant parents need to know is that their life can and will be really great--not despite but BECAUSE they have a special child. And I'm afraid that medical practitioners who do not know a person with Down syndrome personally are not qualified to counsel expectant parents because they do not have the first-hand experience a veteran parent does. My son has his challenges--he can be stubborn, he needs extra help to learn, and he likes to wander off--but overall our life has been blessed by his arrival and we wouldn't have it any other way.

  • Posted By: cutespie @ 12/11/2008 2:04:27 PM

    I am the mother to a 16 month old little girl with DS. I had the testing done while pregnant and they both came back negative. I am so thankful to have her.!!! She is our only child and will remain our only child because I am not able to have children anymore and I am only 26. I think more education should be offered out there, so that stereotypes won't keep others from accepting these wonderful beings! My daughter is the light of my life! I wouldn't change it for the world! I just want others to know, that just because of a disability, doesn't mean they won't be able to do this or that! EDUCATION people!

  • Posted By: a1epstn@aol.com @ 12/10/2008 6:42:14 PM

    I am a mother of a 5 year Downs child, He is magnificiant.
    MY beliefs are as follows.
    Prenantal testing and especially the new tests now being discovered, should always be offered. In addition the women and /or the couple having the baby should always have a guilt free right to terminate that pregnancy.
    And yes diagnosing Downs at an early stage of pregnancy would make it easier to terminate but I beleive as long as the diagnosis was balanced and doctors to provide "accurate and up-to-date information" about Down syndrome to expectant parents, the right to terminate is in the end a choice of the parents.
    My experience was a bad one.
    In 02 I was pregnant at the age of 41 with a girl. I had an amnio for the 1st time (I have 3 other grown children)
    and 2 days later my water broke resulting in months of bedrest only to give birth to a 21 week old baby that died in my husbands arms 1 hour after birth. The amnio results were NORMAL.
    So when I got pregnant again 1 year later I did not do the amnio.
    The earleir tests I did and ultra sounds did not pick up on the Downs, but when my water broke at 28 weeks they had it tested. My Doctor broke the news to me on the phone while I lay ther alone in my hospital room.
    He then went into a strong suggestion that I go to Colorado to terminate the pragnacy at 28 weeks. I felt completly bullied.
    My husband who did not have any children was frightened at the gleam picture my OB painted. For me; I had this life growing inside me, talking singing to him as my belly gre. He was mine
    A wonderful OB doctor at Beth Israel -Dr. Wong, who always seemed to be in the hospital every time I was there and became a friendly face for all the proceedures I had, told us some much gentler things about Downs kids.
    His kind patient voice explained the lighter, happier side of raising a down child and suppling us with much information
    we were so ignorant about. In addition we had a visit from the head of down's clinic at Children Hospital givng us much needed support.
    My son was born at 30 weeks with no heart problems but was extremly low tone. Later he developed seizure disorders.
    We struggle with his health issues, but there is no greater love then him. He is our everything.
    Sometimes we ask ourselves, would we have gone throught the pregnancy had we known early in gestation about
    his downs. Probably not and that seems so strange.
    However, if I became pregnant again I would still want that choice,

  • Posted By: sunflower457 @ 12/10/2008 2:13:26 PM

    Why do people think that someone should not have a child because the child will be disabled?I have 2 autistic boys, one has DS. Has it not occurred to some people that anyone could could start out "normal" and ending up having a disability later in life due to accident or illness? Some of the way people think does bring naziism to mind, hate to say it but its true. By the way I have yet to meet a "normal" person.

  • Posted By: blumengirl @ 12/09/2008 11:39:25 PM

    Many disturbing facts in this article - not just the suggestion that more Down syndrome pregnancies would result in abortions because of improved tests for Down syndrome. I'm much more disturbed to read that the majority of members of the medical profession today have no more knowledge of the condition than was known 50 years ago. What kind of medical education is that? My mother's youngest sister was Down syndrome and I grew up in a multi-generational household that my aunt and I were part of. My grandparents sent my aunt to school when possible and she spoke two languages. She also read in those two languages (note, I did not say she coomprehended all she read). She learned many household chores and helped in many ways around our house. She was a sweet, lovable perxon and a big part of my childhood. If she had been treated with medication that is available today, her life could have been even better. My grandparents never looked upon their daughter as a burden. I am grateful for the compassion I learned as a child growing up in this family situation. If this were a condition that always resulted in serious physical health issues, I might be able to better understand some of the negativity expressed in some responses. Yes, I never was an adult taking care of a child in this situation. I was a child with a down syndrome relative who grew up to help take care of her. If the medical profession today cannot educate parents more intelligently about a child's condition, they should not be practiding obstetrics or pediatrics.

  • Posted By: NeoPoliticus @ 12/09/2008 2:02:06 PM

    Doesn't change anything. You either want to bring a child into the world that can't have a life of its own or you don't.

    • Posted By: srg1026@aol.com @ 12/09/2008 7:53:28 PM

      Wow "NeoPoliticus"!! How IGNORANT"" Obsiously you've never interacted with a person who has down syndrome! Should we wipe out all blind, diabetic, autistic, ADHD and children with learning disabilities? Is your real name Hitler??

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