End of the Line for Islamabad

Unless Pakistan changes how it conceives of its interests and strategy, it will remain an unstable and distrusted place.

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  • Posted By: zghuman @ 06/12/2009 11:48:16 AM

    India must keep in mind that Hindu has no history to rule. Only Muslims ruled in India. Pakistan is a great muslim country. It can rule over India. Because in Hinduism many hindus are not equal other hindus. They are just like insects. This is Hinduism

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 01/05/2009 2:02:41 PM

    Now that India has given evidence to Pakistan, Pakistan should hand over mumbai terror brains to India. Enough is enough. The terrorist acts were perpetrated in India and taking Zardari's efforts they are "non state actors- whatever Bullshitt that means". Then Pakistan must hand them over to India as murders and terrorist acts were done on Indian soil.
    By any international law, Pakistan has no right to conduct their sham trias in Pakistan.
    Wedon't know what really happened to Lakhvi and zarar shah.
    Anyone with a little bit of common sense will believe like Indian ministers that some one highre up is involved in detalied planning of these terrorist acts. Perhaps paki army and ISI. Even Lashkar public relations officer officially is a retired Paki colonel.
    If Pakistan does not act honestly and plays double games then their cannot be any peace between the 2 countries.

    • Posted By: Faraha @ 02/19/2009 4:00:28 AM

      well i like your comments but i think that poverty gives birth to terrorism.As pakistan has High inflation rate therefore especially in NWFP and Balochistan there have been various movements launched by different people who think that government's attitude is the main cause of these issues. our decline is the outcome of poverty. Poverty will presist in the country unless pakistan's goverment doesnot take strong actions to stop it.

  • Posted By: Narinder @ 01/25/2009 11:37:05 AM

    Pakistan will continue on path of terrorism for at least one hundred years more. The religious intolerance is embedded in young minds at primary school level. That???s how and where ???Terrorists??? are born.
    Narinder Dogra

  • Posted By: Qaim Khani @ 01/08/2009 4:48:56 PM

    I think exterimism and terriosom is a common issue for both India and Pakistan and need to be dealt jointly without any blamegame. If India can ask for pakistani suspects then Pakistan will do the same and will ask access for Col Prohat, other exterimist indian suspects and so on and so forth.
    It will be better if both the nation should understand US game and try to keep away themselves in their mutual interest.
    India should not be afraid of Obama's announcement about Kashmir conflict resolution - whatever will be done it will be better for the regional peace subject to right approach and atitiude of all the parties.

  • Posted By: True_Indian @ 01/02/2009 7:04:44 PM

    Pakistan bacame epicenter of terrorism. You name a terror organization and it has links to Pakistan. You name a terror strike anywhere in the world, it has Pak connections. Pak Army and ISI are directly involved in Terrorism. So what do yuo expect from this country? US should block the IMF loan and stop military assistance. That is all need to sqeeze Pakistan and put them in line.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/29/2008 8:11:06 PM

    I just read what militants/terrorists are doing in Swat. It is terrible, terrible. Swat has been turned into terroris heaven. I take my words back which were said in anguish. India and Pakistan need to get together and root out terrorists but this religious bigotry has to stop. People are people and there is no religion bigger then humanity. Insaniyat is the biggest religion of all religions. May Paki army and its ISi get some wisdom and find a way to give up the people behind the mumbai terrorists. May everyone live in peace and harmony. War is not the answer for India and Pakistan. They need to cooperate with each other in rooting out the terrorists which are the common enemy of Indian and Pakistani people.
    Zardari is correct when he said - "we created a cancer and we recognize that we did, the terrorists are imposing their agneda on us." Let us support peace between 2 countries.

    • Posted By: truth85 @ 01/02/2009 8:31:53 AM

      Nice to read your little bit sensible comments. you crossed almost every limit for defaming pakistan. Better consider every element before posting a comment. Pakistanis are facing this terrorism since 2002. we also want peace in region.We lost many precious lives you wrote vile things about founders of pakistan which is very bad.

  • Posted By: southasian @ 01/01/2009 1:12:38 AM

    Pakistan needs a structural change in its governance and the recent events have exposed the power struggle within Pakistan. The Pakistan Army is independent with its own source of income making it less dependent on the civilian Government.
    US, China and Saudi Arabia need to play a a key role in reshaping the power structure of Pakistan. The general public in Pakistan wants changes in its governance and with the help of these nations Pakistan should reshape their constitution and government structures. I think something similar to MacArthur policy in Japan after WWII is needed for Pakistan

  • Posted By: Victor1971 @ 12/30/2008 3:47:56 PM

    John Michael McConnell, the United States Director of National Intelligence, in a speech at Harvard University, soon after Mumbai massacre said that the same group responsible for the 2006 Mumbai train bombings was behind Mumbai attack of 2008.

    The strategy of Pak army / ISI has stood on one solid single pillar- PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. This time in Mumbai they messed up in the execution and have been caught red handed. They had gotten away so many times.

    Indians have to really thank Ajmal Amir Kasab and the brave police man belonging to lower cadre of Mumbai police who was responsible for the capture of Mr.Kasab and died in the process.

    LET was involved in attacks in New Delhi in October 2005, and in Bangalore in December 2005.

    Examples of recent major terror attacks include a coordinated series of bombings in market and temple areas of the tourist city of Jaipur, Rajasthan (May 2008), an attack on a government paramilitary facility in Uttar Pradesh (December 2007), coordinated bomb blasts at court facilities in three cities in Uttar Pradesh (November 2007), an explosives blast in a cinema hall in Punjab (November 2007), two explosions at a popular park and restaurant in Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh (August 2007), an explosion at the main mosque in Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh (May 2007), the detonation of explosive devices on a train northwest of Delhi (February 2007), simultaneous attacks on Mumbai commuter trains (July 2006), simultaneous attacks on a train station and places of worship in Varanasi (March 2006), and simultaneous attacks on several markets in New Delhi (October 2005).

    Contrary to some popular rumors, desperately held false hopes among Pakistanis the issue will not go away anytime soon. Mumbai terrorist attack is not an India-Pakistan issue, but an international one. India is going to blow hot and cold with revelations and media releases, to keep it going; and the international community is likely to go along with India and demand action from Pakistan. It will be subjected to diplomatic, economic, strategic pressure until it yields.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/27/2008 4:09:10 PM

    Pakistani Taliban government requires that all pakistani sstate their religion on their passports despite the fact that 98% of all pakis are muslims!!
    This is done to isolate the minorities - hindoos, sikhs, christians. just like Taliban isolated its minorities by putting dog like collars Identication card saround their necks. Pakistan is taliban Aghnaistan.
    In 1971 West Pakis present day pakistanis killed, murdered raped 3 million fellow muslims the East Pakistanis or today's bangladeshis. India had to step in to liberate bangladesh.
    In 1947 hindoos and other minrities made up 40% of present pakistan but pakistanis muslims either forced them out, converted by force and now minorities make up only 2% of present day pakistan - the napak land.
    Pakistani createdterrorist Taliban to control Afghanistan. Only when American threatened Pakistanis only then and only officially they turned against taliban but everyone know spakistan is playing double games.
    All terrorists in the World go to Pakistan to get terrorist training.
    Pakistan is the headquarters of World terrorism. Al Qaeda, taliban, Jaish Mohmmend, laskar e taiba, ISI all have their headquarters in napak Pakistan.
    pakistan is a snake playing the world and the snam emust be crushed. And that can only be done by invading it from both sides. May teh next US president Oabam inavde Pakistan from West and even East along with Nato and even Russia and chian along with India.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/27/2008 4:01:14 PM

    Pak mad-rassas and paki history:
    The book prescribed for higher secondary students makes no mention of the uprising in East Pakistan in 1971 or the surrender by more than 90,000 Pakistani soldiers. Instead, it claims, "In the 1971 India-Pakistan war, the Pakistan armed forces created new records of bravery and the Indian forces were defeated everywhere."

    The students of Class 3 are taught that "Muhammad Ali (Jinnah) felt that Hindus wanted to make Muslims their slaves and since he hated slavery, he left the Congress". At another place it says, "The Congress was actually a party of Hindus. Muslims felt that after getting freedom, Hindus would make them their slaves."

    And this great historic discovery is taught to Std V students, "Previously, India was part of Pakistan."

    Commenting on this literature that spreads hate, leading Pakistani educationist Tariq Rahman wrote, "It is a fact that the textbooks cannot mention Hindus without calling them cunning, scheming, deceptive or something equally insulting. Students are taught and made to believe that Pakistan needs strong and aggressive policies against India or else Pakistan will be annihilated by it."


  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/27/2008 4:00:14 PM

    Paki Mad-rassas are where most pakis get taught:
    The empowerment of terror in Pakistan has not happened overnight. This is the
    logical culmination of the politics and policies pursued by Pakistan
    Terrorism in Pakistan has its roots in the culture of hate and the ethos of inequality on the ground of religious faith, leading to their being deeply ingrained in the Pakistani psyche and mindset.

    One factor that has played a crucial role in creating this culture of hate is the educational policy of the government of Pakistan pursued since 1977. The officially prescribed textbooks, especially for school students, are full of references that promote hate against India in general, and Hindus in particular.

    A cursory glance at Pakistani school textbooks - especially the compulsory subjects like Pakistan studies and social studies - gives an idea of how history has been distorted and a garbled version prescribed to build this mindset and attitude.

    The objective of Pakistan's education policy has been defined thus in the preface to a Class 6 book: "Social studies have been given special importance in educational policy so that Pakistan's basic ideology assumes the shape of a way of life, its practical enforcement is assured, the concept of social uniformity adopts a practical form and the whole personality of the individual is developed." This statement leaves no doubt that "social uniformity", not national unity, is a part of Pakistan's basic ideology.

    The Class 5 book has this original discovery about Hindu help to bring British rule to India: "The British had the objective to take over India and to achieve this, they made Hindus join them and Hindus were very glad to side with the British. After capturing the subcontinent, the British began on the one hand the loot of all things produced in this area, and on the other, in conjunction with Hindus, to greatly suppress the Muslims."

    The Std VIII book says, "Their (Muslim saints) teachings dispelled many superstitions of the Hindus and reformed their bad practices. Thereby Hindu religion of the olden times came to an end."

    On Indo-Pak wars, the books give detailed descriptions and openly eulogize ???jihad' and ???shahadat' and urge students to become ???mujahids' and martyrs and leave no room for future friendship and cordial relations with India.

    According to a Class 5 book, "In 1965, the Pakistani army conquered several areas of India, and when India was on the point of being defeated, she requested the United Nations to arrange a ceasefire. After 1965, India, with the help of Hindus living in East Pakistan, instigated the people living there against the people of West Pakistan, and finally invaded East Pakistan in December 1971. The conspiracy resulted in the separation of East Pakistan from us. All of us should receive military training and be prepared to fight the enemy."

  • Posted By: H.nazar @ 12/27/2008 9:43:09 AM

    I find Indians are more racist than a lot of white europeans. The worst aspect being that a lot of Hindu's will use muslim soundind names as their post names, how pathetic. Indians cry wolf all the time, why is the Indian terrorist state murdering and raping people in Kashmir. Where is the democratic rights of the Kashmiri people, but then the 700,000 Indian troops will determine what the rights of the Kashmiri's are. I am sick and tired of hearing Indians whinge about others attacking them , when they know too well the kind of atrocities committed by the Indian state in Kashmir, Nagaland, Assam and Bihar. If you do not believe me then refer to Amnesty International, who have catalogued the number of gang rapes of Kashmiri womed by Indian soldoers( NOT ONE SOLDIER HAS BEEN TO COURT FOR THAT), how pathetic . Then what can be expected of a nation like India where an upper caste hindu can rape a woman from a low caste, and get away with it. If you really want to see evil at work then it surely must be the caste system in India, where a persons status is based on his birth into a particular family as opposed to his/her capabilities. This is the same India that sided with the USSR in its invasion of Afghanistan, which resulted in a million Afghans dying. This India has excellent working and business relationship with the evil regime in Burma, whre people are fighting for their democratic rights against a military hunta. In India the murder of minorities is a state approved policy. The thousands od Sikhs murdered in India(after the assasination of Indira Ghandhi), the government stood by. The murder of muslims in gujarat, while the state minister Mr.Modi made sure the state helped the murderers. Were the hindus of Gujarat disgusted with his behaviour? ofcourse they were, thats why they voted him for another term. The BJP heirarchy took part in the destruction of the Babri mosque, and then they won the election, along the way thousands of ordinary muslims were murdered.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/25/2008 5:55:40 PM

    Pkaistan is like Taliban Afghanistan.
    Pakistan asks all Pakis to state their religion on their pasports.
    Although 98 percent of all pakis are muslims.
    This is done so to isolate and identify the minorites - hindoos, christians, sikhs etc.
    This is exactly what Taliban did. They ordered all hindoos, sikhs to put dog like tags collars around their necks.
    Pakistan is Talibanized Afghanistan.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/25/2008 5:52:51 PM

    Paki Government has refused to provide legal services to the caught Lashkar terrorist from Pakistani faridkot near depalpur in okara district of pakistani occupied punjab.
    This is what happens to pakistani terrorist.
    he is recurited fom poor villages, his family promised money. He is then trained by pakistani military and ISI officers.
    pakitstani military and ISI provide monetary, support to terrorist Lashkar chiefs and officers. The Mullahs in the pretense of Allah brainwash the Poor Paki youth promising them a ticket to heaven in case he dies.
    In this case things didn't turn out well for pakistani military and ISI and its terrorists the Lashkar e taiba.
    Mohmmed Ajmal Amir Iman/Kasab was caught and given a great beating by mumbai civilians within first hours of the Pakistani terrorists attack.
    Mohmmed Ajmal Kasab was interrogated and he spilled o ut all information that he was trained by Pakistani Lashkar terrorists who we all know was created by Pakistani military and ISI to launch terror attacks against India.
    Remember Thaht Pakistani terrorists killed citziens from all over the World. Americans, British, french, German, israelis, Japanese, Chinese, australians, Canadians, italian all were murdered by pakistani terrorists.
    Remember that Pakistani terrorists did not even spare a young child. They killed Indians and Indian muslims.
    Pakistan is the headquarters of World Terrorists.
    Al Qaeda, Taliban, Lashkar e taiba, Jaish mohammed, ISI, and all terrorists are based in Pakistan.
    Unless US invaed Pakistan with foot soldiers , Osama laden, zawahiri and Mullah Omar are never going to be caught.
    Thankfully Obama may be going in that direction.
    Unless Pakistan is invaded and taken car eof permanently, terrorists will continue to come out of there and launch terror attacks against the World.
    Remember that it was Pakistani who is associated with tyerror attacks in spain, Britain, USA - 9-11, China, Indonesia, India I mean almost everywhere it is Pakistani hands somehow.
    Unless Pakistan is invaded with foot soldiers US is wasting its time In Afghanistan because Taliban is hiding in Pakistan after launching attacks against colition troops.
    Taliban roams freely in Pakistan and pakistanis know who they are where they live, what they do.
    Paksitan is playing double game with US and the World.
    Look at how these pakis come together in their hatred of India, if only they came together when faced with terrorists , pakistan won't be in the mess it is right now.
    But how could they? Why would they? Because they are the ones who created them. The terrorists, the Pakistani military and ISI are Pakistanis!! That is why.


  • Posted By: ajka @ 12/24/2008 9:25:23 PM

    I totally agree. Zardari announced ISI to be under PM control, but within a week the poor guy had to reverse his orders as Army doesn't want any civilian to know that ISI actually is helping terrorists in Afghanistan and elsewhere. World needs to understand clearly, Paki Army is recruiting and helping terrorists everywhere; they are funded with oil money by some lazy shekhs. Pak intellects fear for their lives and have almost no voice against Army.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/24/2008 5:36:24 PM

    Yes Yes Pakistan is playing douible games with everyone.
    Pakistani military and ISI and its corrupt politicians have been doing this with India since Pakistan was created by British.
    Pakistani military and ISI an dpoliticinas have alos been playing double games with each other too.
    Another name of Pakistani is backstabber.
    US is wasting it stime fighting Taliban in Afghanistan.
    WHy you ask?
    Because Taliban is in Pakistan.
    It comes into Afghnaitsan to fight US troops and NATO and then runs away to Pakistan.
    US is currently not going with troops into Pakistan.
    So Taliban will saty alive unless US goes after Taliban in Pakistan.
    Paki military and ISI is also supporting Taliban.
    Talibanis live freely in pakistan and everyone knows who they are, where they live and what they do.
    It is foolish to trust Pakistan.
    Pakistan is a sham democracy.
    Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari is a collge drop out who is corrupt.
    He is widely known in Pakistan as Mr. 10 percent because he took 10 percent of every contract his wife Benazir Bhutto awarded when Sh ewas Prime Minister of pakistan.
    Look at whole thing.
    Paki military and ISI in reality run Pakistan.
    Zardari is a puppet.
    And Paki military and ISI created Taliban and other terrorists and they are still supporting them, playing double games with US and NATO and India too.
    To put a stop to all this there is no other choice except to invade Pakistan., take control of it snukes and missiles and disband its military and ISI just like Saddam's baath party was disbanded in Iraq.
    Paki military , it sISI intelligenc eis the backbone of Taliban.
    Mullah Omar, Osamam bin laden, taliban, all other terror groups are in Pakistan. I
    Pakistan is the headquarter sof World Terrorists.
    All terrorists come to Pakistan to get training.
    Invasion of pakistan is the solution to put a permanent end to Terrorism problem facing the World.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/24/2008 5:14:36 PM

    Remember that PAKISTANI TERRORIST MURDERERS AND TERRORISTS MURDERED OUR UNARMED AND INNOCENT
    GUESTS AND INDIAN MUSLIMS IN MUMBAI. THE GUESTS FROM FOLLOWING COUNTRIES WERE BRUTALLY MURDERED.
    USA
    GREAT BRITAIN
    AUSTRALIA
    CANANDA
    GERMANY
    JAPAN
    CHINA
    FRANCE
    ITALY
    ISRAEL
    REMEBER THEY DID NOT EVEN SPARE INDIAN MUSLIMS AND CHILDREN.
    THE WORLD WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT.
    PAKISTAN'S DAY OF RECKONING IS COMING SOON.

  • Posted By: Victor1971 @ 12/22/2008 1:25:22 PM

    Jammu and Kashmir: A Multi-Ethnic State
    Contrary to most reports in the media, Jammu & Kashmir (J&K) is not a state where only Kashmiri Muslims live. It is a multi-ethnic, multi-religious state with 64% Muslims, 33% Hindus, and 3% Buddhists, Sikhs, Christians and others. There are three distinct geographical regions - Ladakh (with 58% of the area, and 3% of the population), Jammu (26% area, 45% population) and Kashmir (16% area, 52% population: of which over 90 % of the region's minorities, i.e. 3% of the state's total population have been driven out). The primary languages of Ladakh are Ladakhi and Balti, of Jammu: Dogri, and of Kashmir: Kashmiri. In addition, Gujari, Pahari, Punjabi, Shina and various dialects and mixed languages are also spoken by different ethnic groups within the state.

    Fifteen per cent of the state's Muslims live in the provinces of Jammu and Ladakh . They are non-Kashmiris, and by and large, they stand behind J&K's association with India. (There are a few small exceptions in some towns of Doda district). Of the state's 49% who reside in the Kashmir province, about 13% are Shia Muslims. Shia Muslims do not wish to have anything to do with Sunni-dominated Pakistan, knowing full well the fate that awaits them there. (Just recently, an Oct 4, Hindustan Times report cited Pakistan's Shoora Wahdat-i-Islami who condemned what it called the genocide of Shias in Pakistan.) This is especially true of the Shias of Kargil who know of the poverty and degradation experienced by their ethnic siblings in Baltistan, a part of Pakistan occupied Kashmir referred to as the "Northern Areas".

  • Posted By: Victor1971 @ 12/22/2008 1:20:47 PM

    Also fyi....In 1947, Hindus constituted 20-30% of the population in the geographic area that constitutes the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN? How many Hindus live now??? less than one percent!!!!

    "Tolerance" of the Islamic republic of Pakistan is for every one to see!! NO QUESTION OF HANDING OVER MORE TERRITORY.

    Also, Pakis never tire of talking about the plight of Indian Muslims. Who is repsonsible for the pitiable state of Paki muslims?? You had a "free country", look what you accomplised in 61 years. Utter embarassment. Also Indians wish 15% of "Pakistan" had stayed Hindu and wish there were Hindu movie stars, Hindu missile scientists, Hindu Ambassadors representing Pakistan. Since none of the above applies, India will fight out Pakis, WILL NOT REDRAW maps in Kashmir. It is better to fight the jihad in Kasmir rather than in New Delhi.

  • Posted By: Victor1971 @ 12/22/2008 1:13:12 PM

    The Indian subcontinent hosts hundreds of ethnicities, speaking 1000 languages and practicing all the religions in God's earth. There are linguistic ethnic groups- Sindhis, Gujaratis, Bengalis, Maratis, Pathans, Punhabis, Tamil, Telugus,Kashmiris ...the list is long. The only ethnic, linguistic group in the subcontinent that constitutes a separate country is Bangladhesh- born out of the genocide of THREE MILLION Bengali muslims perpetrated by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan on fellow muslims.

    Kashmiri muslims wanting a separate country seems to have born out of sense of entitlement out of events of partition, UN resolutions, etc. Either that or it is born out of the special racial supremacy the Kashmiri muslims feel. In either case another intolerant country based on religious exclusivity right next to Afghanistan and Pakistan is the last thing the subcontinent needs. These muslims have unleashed genocide on Kashmiri Hindus and expelled them from their homland where they had lived thousands of years. Buddhists in Ladakh, Hindus and Sikhs in Jammu fear another jiahdi terrorist state of "Islamic Republic of Kashmir". Thus there is no question of redrawing maps.

    The priorities are - control of religion based terrorism, as waged by Kashmir "freedom movement" should be completely eliminated Once this is achieved LOC could be liberalised. Other genuine grievances of Kasmiri muslims could be fullfilled without redrawing of India's current borders which in the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir. Impartial democratic elections should be held in POK, where India can help. No need to erect new Berlin walls!!!

    p.s As a peace gesture Pakistan should rename its portion of Kashmir as POK, the current name of "Azad Kashmir" is misleading. This will be the first step towards peace.

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