End of the Line for Islamabad

The role of Indian media and American Indians such as Mr. Zakria has been really shameful and disgusting. without any sound proof he has given the verdict proving that he may be US citizen but his loyalty is with India. Indian hawks like Zakria need to face up to the fact that Hindu Terrorism / Fundamentalism in India is thriving in India. Couple of news clips indicating how minoriities are being treated by majority Hindu:

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=13824&geo=6&size=A
(Orissa, Hindu fundamentalists offer rewards for killing Christians)

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,235503,00.html
(India's Own Beirut)

Hindu terrorists have even infiltrated Indian army:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5107111.ece
(Shock as top Indian Army officer arrested over bomb attack)

So if Hindus can plant the bomb and blame Pakistan /Indian Muslims, why cant they plan atrocities in Mumbai? We supposed to believe confession obtained by Indian police? Are you kidding me? I think everyone should help in investigation including Pakistan but blame game without proof will only fuel hatred.

And...oh yeah...also if the terrorists came by a 'Pakistani' boat, how
did they manage to sneak past the Indian navy which was doing naval
exercises in the region at that time? Are they that useless?

Moreover, I really want to know how the terrorists had so much petrol
in their boat that they could make a 24 hour journey from Karachi
to Bombay when it is much easier to cross the land border between the
two countries? Even the confirmed Indian terrorist, Kashmir Singh,
had crossed into Pakistan by land!

Also, if you Indians recall, an Indian military Intelligence officer,
Colonel Purohit, was arrested and convicted in connection with
the bombing of the 'friendship train' that goes between India and
Pakistan. (By the way, most of the killed were Pakistanis)

In any case, It was established that he had links with Hindu fascist
organisations like the VHP and the rest of the Sangh parivar. I am
sure that all Indians are aware that it is these connections that the
honorable Indian ATS chief, Hemant Karkare, was looking into and it
had been discovered that these types of links between Hindu fascist
organisations and the Indian military were much deeper than it was
earlier thought.

Does it occur to any Indians that this Mumbai terrorist atrocity could
be an Inside job by the Indian Intelligence elements that were
scared of being uncovered by the ATS chief, Karkare?

And please check out and scroll down on the following BBC link and
look at the photo of the 'terrorist', Amir Qasab:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7769297.stm

Look carefully at his wrist. I really want to know why is this supposed
Pakistani Muslim man wearing an orange 'rakhi' on his wrist?
This is something that Hindus wear.

I have never seen anyone in Pakistan wearing such an orange band
anywhere. The saffron brigade as they are called...Can anyone explain?

I appreciate everyone's input. Thanks.

And...oh yeah...also if the terrorists came by a 'Pakistani' boat, how
did they manage to sneak past the Indian navy which was doing naval
exercises in the region at that time? Are they that useless?

Moreover, I really want to know how the terrorists had so much petrol
in their boat that they could make a 24 hour journey from Karachi
to Bombay when it is much easier to cross the land border between the
two countries? Even the confirmed Indian terrorist, Kashmir Singh,
had crossed into Pakistan by land!

Also, if you Indians recall, an Indian military Intelligence officer,
Colonel Purohit, was arrested and convicted in connection with
the bombing of the 'friendship train' that goes between India and
Pakistan. (By the way, most of the killed were Pakistanis)

In any case, It was established that he had links with Hindu fascist
organisations like the VHP and the rest of the Sangh parivar. I am
sure that all Indians are aware that it is these connections that the
honorable Indian ATS chief, Hemant Karkare, was looking into and it
had been discovered that these types of links between Hindu fascist
organisations and the Indian military were much deeper than it was
earlier thought.

Does it occur to any Indians that this Mumbai terrorist atrocity could
be an Inside job by the Indian Intelligence elements that were
scared of being uncovered by the ATS chief, Karkare?

And please check out and scroll down on the following BBC link and
look at the photo of the 'terrorist', Amir Qasab:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7769297.stm

Look carefully at his wrist. I really want to know why is this supposed
Pakistani Muslim man wearing an orange 'rakhi' on his wrist?
This is something that Hindus wear.

I have never seen anyone in Pakistan wearing such an orange band
anywhere. The saffron brigade as they are called...Can anyone explain?

I appreciate everyone's input. Thanks.

Hameed gul is supposed to be in a Mental health institution for good. Well where you have half of population is suffering from Dementia then in RICH country like Pakistan you don;t have any mental institution.so USA has to apply to UN for giving free health care for Hameed gul. Hope he will get that with US tax payer money.

Real news:
New Delhi : Dismissing reports that Pakistan had decided to hand him over to Indian authorities in connection with the investigations into last week???s terror attacks in Mumbai, former ISI chief General Hamid Gul on Sunday such reports were being ???planted??? by the United States to malign him.
???As far as I know, neither has the Indian Government asked Pakistan to hand me over to them nor has the Pakistan Government agreed to do any such thing,??? General Gul, who served as director-general of the ISI between 1987 and 1989, told The Indian Express.

In a December 5 report, The Washington Post newspaper had named General Gul among the three Pakistanis that Islamabad had agreed to hand over to New Delhi.

By spreading such rumours, General Gul said, the United States was just trying to strengthen its ???hopeless??? case of getting him banned under UN Resolution 1267, also known as the Al Qaeda and Taliban Sanctions Committee, which makes it mandatory for countries to freeze the assets of all individuals known to be supportive of Al Qaeda or Taliban, and also ban their travel.

???They (the US) have formally tried to include my name in that resolution. But you see the charges they have made against me. They are completely ridiculous, absolutely laughable. There is no substance in those charges. The US knows the charges as they stand mean nothing,??? he said.

???I am sure the Indians would not have demanded for my interrogation. After all I am retired for almost 20 years now and hold no influence in my country. I know this is coming from (US Secretary of State) Condoleezza Rice,??? he said.

General Gul said he did not see how Lashkar-e-Toiba, the prime suspect in the Mumbai terror attack, could have carried out such a sophisticated operation. ???Very frankly, the kind of professionalism that these terrorists have shown is beyond the capabilities of Lashkar or similar outfits. The sophistication of the operation makes it clear that there was a definite help from ???inside???,??? he said. ???As it is Lashkar is banned in Pakistan since 2002. It exists only in the official Indian files,??? he said.

He also warned India against playing into the hands of the US. ???We know them bette

3) Poor and Illiteracy in India
Well we have one Billion populations and if you have hostile nation like Pakistan as your Neighbor then you have to spend3% of your GDP on defense .that money we can spend on this poor and improvised .But I don???t think India ever go with bagging Bowl to International community? Pakistan is living on borrowed money for last 60 years. We are poor but we are well on our feet, we don???t bag.
About illiteracy ,yes India has this problem but you know even in India we have one state with 100% literacy rate We have One of the best education systems in the world, We have more engineer ,doctors then gun trotting Taliban of Pakistan. In every fortune company you can find Indians, well couple of them running Fortune Company not madrassa.
4) About samjota express
Well If it is true that Hindu is involve in this then Law will take it course, To my understanding Hindu is just defending again ISI promoted violence in India ,We are taking heat from this Pakistani orchestrated terrorism for last 60 yrs. But Law is equal for any criminal. But one thing I want to point out here is most of this Pakistani writing about this samjota express.
Think with clear mind ( If you have one) It is India who found out about this and they made it public that Indian is involve in this, Let me tell you Pakistan didn???t ask us to do investigation. India didn???t hide anything from investigation. Same thing happened in Pakistan then it is anybody???s guess, what will happen to investigation. I don???t even want to discuss this.
Killing of ATS chief in Bombay terror attack.
Bombay ATS and Police HQ is just a block away from CST railway terminal ,as soon as police come to know about firing they rushed to CST terminal and that was big mistake, So Paki don???t over run your small perverted mind about any conspi

WOW lots of Indian bashing going on here from Pakistani lovers. Before you bash India, first look at your home Pakistan,???don???t even try to compare Pakistan with India ???as a nation you are going at the rate of 80 miles per hour to hell of distruction, look what you have made of your country in last 60 yrs? If India had good neighbor like Canada, we probably a world beater right now. That???s a different story. But I would like to clear some misconception of this Pakistani about India. I am hearing this over and over again in blog and all over internet. This follower of Hameed gul are brainwashed about India from hameed gul???s perverted and distorted view of India.
1) 9/11 was work of Mossad and CIA
Most of the Pakistani (Muslim in that sense) thinks in same wave length as Hameed Gul.
Reason they are believing in such story because most of the Muslim (Pakistani Included) living within a Shadow of Dictatorship or Military rulers or In case of Pakistan, ISI ruling. For them it is way of life to see Ruler of there nation kill people for no reason, so it is in there psyche to think that only ruler of the country can do this thing, OSAMA is god for them.
2) Muslim in India is Under Attack from Hindu?
Well I can say with Authority that given a chance to 150M Muslim in India to choose between India and Pakistan 100 % will stay with India. Yes India is not perfect and when two family live together then it is bound to make some noise ,It is true in America too they have white supremacy, Like fareed we have many prominent Muslim scholars ,we had three Muslim Presidents,Bollywood is full of Muslims, we have Top Industrialist is Muslims. Many many artists are from Muslim Gharana, List will go on. In democracy you can not improvised everyone, Hindu and Muslim are Majority, (150 M Muslim in any country is not minority by any chance) Minority in India? You can call Parsi . With less then one hundred thousand they are pillar of Indian society, I have never heard from Parsi that they are mistreated in India. And anyway it is India???s internal matter and Pakistan has NORIGHT WHATSOEVER to talk about Indian Muslim. You can look at your problem first then point finger at INDIA. End of the matter.

Funny is that Arabs think they are the real Muslims and Pakistanis as inferior converts. And they employ Pakistanis as construction workers , laborers, servants, clerks etc. Many arabs even told me that Pakistan's fight with India over Kashmir is over Land just as Syria's fight with israel. They even said that Pakistanis are using religion as a lying cover and excuse to steal land from India. Even in arab muslim world they don't like pakistanis!!

The master mind of 9-11 attacks is a Pakistani Khalid Mohmmed Sheikh. Pakistanis created the terrorist regime of Taliban that blew the ancient buddha statues. Taliban were young students brainwashed in pakistani Madrassas - the so called religious schools. Pkaistani army fought with medieval taliban against Mujhadeen. Pkaistan controlled afghanistan through Taliban. Pressured by US after 9-11 , pakistan officially turned against Taliban. But there is talk of pakistani army and its Intelligence supporting Taliban. Taliban roams freely in pakistani city of quetta an deven has a council called Quetta Shura. By all accounts Pakistan is Playing a double game with the World.
Pakistani regularly rally against USA, Britain and Israel. The Pakistani terrorist were specifically asking for citizens from these countries. They even targeted specifically and murderd peaceful jews. What a Horrible horrible band of murderes these pakistani Jihadies were.

Pakistan is not as strong as Nazi Germany that it can take on the World. Pkaistani Presdient Mr. 10 percent went to china and saudi arabia as a beggar to beg for money. Both kicked him out. This man went with 200 people as cohorts on state money! Zardari used to skim 10 percent of contract money when his wife Nenazir Bhutto was in power! This is Pakistan corrupt from top to bottom.!
Remember pakistani terrorists just like the caught terrorist Mohmmaed Ajmal kasab verified by Mcclatchy newspapers (american) from faridkot in Pakistani southern Punjab, murderd citizens from all over the World. They specifically asked for citizens of USA, Britain and Israel. Just lthe names of countries Pakistanis had rallied against - USA, Israel and India. So it is now the World problem. that is the failed so called country of Pakistan.
Strangle them through International Monetary Fund and pakistan will fall to its knees. It will have to be forced to handover all terrorist India demanded. A newspaper report said that lashkar taibbaa chief raoms around in SUV's living a life of luxury while recuriting terrorist promising them a ticket to heaven!
Who in right mind would want to travel to the terrorist state of pakistan.
MSNC has a videoclip in which US soldiers are fighting on afghanistan- paksitan border and talking about rejoing army if they could invade pakistan. Watch it.
India from east, US and NATO from west can strangle pakistan. iran won't mind becaus eit is Shia and pakistanis is sunni. Sunni Pakistanis have committed acts of terror against Shias and ismailis, That was news intermittetly. Pakistanis are famous for honor killings in Britain.
The terrorist in 9-11, Britain, Madrid, mumbai are all pakistanis or influenced by this country factories of terror.

Irrespective of the involvement of Pakistan in this case or any other of the kind, Pakistan still needs to "align the power player" in the country not just on its "anti-terrorism position" but on "policy details" in this regard as well. Even after a lapse of almost 6 years, the lines are not as clearly drawn as they need to be. Moreover, another important thing, often overlooked, is that certain elements, although not directly involved in producing terrorists, yet are responsible for nurturing an environment and thought pattern of a section of a people that helps extremist philosophies survive. Irrespective of the Mumbai attacks, due action in the above areas is essential and very much in line with Pakistan's immediate and longterm national interests.

Regards,
Muhammad Khurram Yaqub

Its not surprising for me that Mr. Zakria is coming with a story that is not only baseless but also has no firm proof or evidence. Indians started blaming Pakistan right the very first moment of the attack. Whereas the facts are otherwise. Indian goverenment and intelligence agencies have acknowledged lapes and desparateries in thier stories and afterall they are now blaming Bangladesh.

It doesn't surprises me that Mr. Zakria is workign in a position that no true Muslim will be offered. Western media always looks for individuals who have distorted and twisted immage of Islam nad have the capacity to spread their Biased and twisted ideas to the worldso that by picking these so called Muslims Media can say "Itsn't biased towards Islam or Muslims.
Farid Zakria is a true example of the category just mentioned and that tries to get big financial benefits. Mr. Zakria, problem of Muslim world is not having a true leadreship, but the "BUSH" 's so called war on terror which in fact is war on Muslim world and Islamic Idealogy has Muslims woken around the world and they are now clearly seeing how western Media and powere brokers have twisted the facts, befooled the world and launched war against Muslim world. Truth can never be denied or hidden for long. Truth has the tendency to speak by itself, like a large number of Americans now believe that 9/11 was planned and carried out by CIA and others agencies and here is Mr. Zakria tryign to suggest that Indians should have responded like America against Pakistan.
Farid Zakria shouldn't forget that every minute somewhere in India a minority member is either being rabed, killed and his property burned. Attrocities against Muslim minority in India are not new but recently Hindo extremists have widened and intensified attacks on Christians and Jews. If we campare Indian crimes against Nazi Crimes there isn't much difference.
Furthermore before India or it's sympathizer like Farid Zakria blames anyone for bambi attacks they should keep in mind that in most of Indian states there are movements for separation from India and in many states there is violent struggle too.
Malik

Its not surprising for me that Mr. Zakria is coming with a story that is not only baseless but also has no firm proof or evidence. Indians started blaming Pakistan right the very first moment of the attack. Whereas the facts are otherwise. Indian goverenment and intelligence agencies have acknowledged lapes and desparateries in thier stories and afterall they are now blaming Bangladesh.

It doesn't surprises me that Mr. Zakria is workign in a position that no true Muslim will be offered. Western media always looks for individuals who have distorted and twisted immage of Islam nad have the capacity to spread their Biased and twisted ideas to the worldso that by picking these so called Muslims Media can say "Itsn't biased towards Islam or Muslims.
Farid Zakria is a true example of the category just mentioned and that tries to get big financial benefits. Mr. Zakria, problem of Muslim world is not having a true leadreship, but the "BUSH" 's so called war on terror which in fact is war on Muslim world and Islamic Idealogy has Muslims woken around the world and they are now clearly seeing how western Media and powere brokers have twisted the facts, befooled the world and launched war against Muslim world. Truth can never be denied or hidden for long. Truth has the tendency to speak by itself, like a large number of Americans now believe that 9/11 was planned and carried out by CIA and others agencies and here is Mr. Zakria tryign to suggest that Indians should have responded like America against Pakistan.
Farid Zakria shouldn't forget that every minute somewhere in India a minority member is either being rabed, killed and his property burned. Attrocities against Muslim minority in India are not new but recently Hindo extremists have widened and intensified attacks on Christians and Jews. If we campare Indian crimes against Nazi Crimes there isn't much difference.
Furthermore before India or it's sympathizer like Farid Zakria blames anyone for bambi attacks they should keep in mind that in most of Indian states there are movements for separation from India and in many states there is violent struggle too.
Malik

Its not surprising for me that Mr. Zakria is coming with a story that is not only baseless but also has no firm proof or evidence. Indians started blaming Pakistan right the very first moment of the attack. Whereas the facts are otherwise. Indian goverenment and intelligence agencies have acknowledged lapes and desparateries in thier stories and afterall they are now blaming Bangladesh.

It doesn't surprises me that Mr. Zakria is workign in a position that no true Muslim will be offered. Western media always looks for individuals who have distorted and twisted immage of Islam nad have the capacity to spread their Biased and twisted ideas to the worldso that by picking these so called Muslims Media can say "Itsn't biased towards Islam or Muslims.
Farid Zakria is a true example of the category just mentioned and that tries to get big financial benefits. Mr. Zakria, problem of Muslim world is not having a true leadreship, but the "BUSH" 's so called war on terror which in fact is war on Muslim world and Islamic Idealogy has Muslims woken around the world and they are now clearly seeing how western Media and powere brokers have twisted the facts, befooled the world and launched war against Muslim world. Truth can never be denied or hidden for long. Truth has the tendency to speak by itself, like a large number of Americans now believe that 9/11 was planned and carried out by CIA and others agencies and here is Mr. Zakria tryign to suggest that Indians should have responded like America against Pakistan.
Farid Zakria shouldn't forget that every minute somewhere in India a minority member is either being rabed, killed and his property burned. Attrocities against Muslim minority in India are not new but recently Hindo extremists have widened and intensified attacks on Christians and Jews. If we campare Indian crimes against Nazi Crimes there isn't much difference.
Furthermore before India or it's sympathizer like Farid Zakria blames anyone for bambi attacks they should keep in mind that in most of Indian states there are movements for separation from India and in many states there is violent struggle too.
Malik

Mr. India 111 here is the truth of indian prosperity.According to the new World Bank's estimates on poverty based 2005 data, India has 456 million people, 81.6% of its population, living below the new international poverty line of $1.25 (PPP) per day. The World Bank further estimates that 63% of the global poor now reside in India. Moreover, India also has 1228 million people, or 85.6% of the population living below $2 a day, compared to 72.2% for Sub-Saharan Africa. These indian living under these curcumstances would be more likely to do such a thing. Few indian moved to western countries and open up Grocery stores and hot dog business and made few dollars and start talking about prosperity...lets not play blaming game and be realistic and try to solve the problems within.

I think indians should be little more realistic and they should start using their own brains so they may know the truth behind this attacks.As we all know these attacks were carried out by their own politicians no one else..so please stop blaming others and lets worry about 90% people living under powerty line.I was very surprised to hear that when one of their minister suggested to poor indians to eat rat meat so india can get rid of the ratss in the country.shame on you guys...

yes you are correct Atique,if they are laskher activist then whom they think ,pakistan armed forces fighting
against while more than thoustnd military personnel's have lost their lives.these indian have never accpeted
Pakistan,like a soverign coutry ,it is pitty when threre are 14 seperatist movements,and whenever there is a event they
first cry ISI and paksitan ,then they look indian muslims and target them ,in the name of interrogations as they
did in gujrat and andhra pardesh, so called secular india has not have proportional share of muslims in governemnt
jobs,and it was clearly mentioned in their judical report.
Hassan Syed