End of the Line for Islamabad

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  • Posted By: JKLF-R @ 12/19/2008 12:03:58 PM


    May be Mr. Farid Zakaria may throw his light on -How about end of the line for how India percieves its interest in holding Kashmir on the basis of Military might with 800 thousand army in civilian population, streets and villages.If you are fair you must be balanced.Speak out about Kashmir and how India is committing human right abuses in Kashmir.
    These are excerpts from an editorial of daily greater Kashmir.
    "Kashmir has been turned into a huge prison where everyone is under arrest. It's going bad to worse. As a consequence of it, public suffers. Infact the curfew and the governor's administration have become synonymous. The curfew is imposed all over the Kashmir valley when Prime Minister of India, Dr. Manmohan Singh or Congress chairperson has to visit some border area or some town near the LoC more than hundred kilometers away from the city of Srinagar city or other major towns. People are forced to remain indoors if some political humbug representing some political party that has not even an office in Kashmir addresses some hirelings inside some house behind the sandbag bunkers. It has been three to four days curfew in a week in the Kashmir valley ever since the governor administration took over. More than seven million Kashmiris have been virtually imprisoned for the past four months. The life of the people has been made miserable on all counts. The closure of shops and business establishments has hit the economy of the people. Scores of the daily-wage-earners, the smalltime pavement vendors, hawkers, cart pullers and laborers are living a famished life. The unprecedented and unnecessary curfews have been affecting the academic career of tens of thousands of student. Many students failed to reach the examination halls because of the sudden imposition of the curfew. The sick failing to reach the hospitals and succumbing are routine stories. The imposition of unnecessary and undeclared curfew in Kashmir is not just an administrative arrangement for preventing any disturbances but it smacks of some conspiracy against the Kashmir economy. Some unscrupulous elements infamous for hating Kashmir have been deriving sadistic pleasure by pacing Kashmir valley unnecessarily under curfew. The government in office is yet to explain what prompts it to place the Kashmir valley continuously under curfew. There is no war like or alarming law and order situation at present that would necessitate restricting people to their homes. Placing Kashmir under permanent curfew is no administrative efficiency but failure. The situation as obtains in the state in the wake of the imposition of the curfew for about past five months is the not only biggest human rights violation but grave crime against humanity that has no precedence. The situation as obtains not only deserves attention by the international human rights organization but a condemnation by every conscious and conscientious citizen of the world."

  • Posted By: malikrose3 @ 12/18/2008 7:17:41 PM

    Yes, US, Britian and Israel are saying the same because these three big evils and terrorist minded governments are working together on war against the Muslim world, so does it surprise anyone, NO!!

    The crimes against HUMANITY that CIA and MOSAD have committed are horrifying and are too many to count and eventually these evil empires have to pay for theri crimes, India also has to pay one day for its crimes against its minorities, this is the law of nature and nature's check and ballance. No one ever goes unchecked, only matter of time.
    India started blaming Pakistan for mumbai attacks at the very first moment just like while twin towers here in New york were falling, American broad casting news anchor with naughty smile on her face was saying "authorities have identified numbers and identity of 9 hikackers and have found passports of some of the hijackers in the rubble of twin towers". Is itn't strange that passports were found in millions of tonns rubble clean and safe. And after only 3 years US independant observer groups and engineers started saying " US government's claim about 9 hijackesrs and the entire storey is false and world renouned Engineering organizations have reported US government's claim to be baseless and not supported by facts.
    Everybody has to face and pay for his/her crimes and be assured India will pay too, very soon for its planned 9/11.

    • Posted By: Trooper101st @ 12/19/2008 9:25:31 AM

      YOU moslems crashed those planes into US buildings, and soon you will reap wat you have sown. Yeah, blame the JEWS, Americans, Indians...but do not take your own inventory. You people are good at blaming everyone but YOURSELVES. Your FC, ur army, have fired on US troops while engaging T-ban/AQ, and when we retaliate you whine and moan. PAKI'S will get wats coming, and its richly deserved.

  • Posted By: Trooper101st @ 12/19/2008 9:16:39 AM

    Looks like the PAKI'S are up to thier ears in supporting terror groups, islamic psychotics. Now, its time for them to ante up, give us the swine like HAMID GUL, and the others on that UN list. Soon the ISI will be declared a terror org., and if nothing changes, the PAKI's will be declared a state sponsor of terror. I hear it over and over from moslems that the US is at fault, WE are to blame. You people blame everyone but urselves for ur backward, barbaric culture. You wanna turn the clock back to 700 AD? Keep up the current behavior, and you PAKI's will get a rain of ruin from the air that will make you think its the STONE AGE. Its only a matter of time, since the PAKI's won't turn over Gul&Co, crush the terror camps and AQ/T-ban, the US will. WITH Intl. backing. The tribal areas have been ceded to the T-ban/AQ, so ur claims of "sovereignty" is a joke. You wanna blame someone? LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

  • Posted By: ASINGHAL @ 12/19/2008 1:07:20 AM

    Dear Shah Rukh,
    It seems you are so angry that you have even started accusing the Indians like me for being a Paki (an offensive word used in the International Community). As Malikrose put it, I was only trying to speak logic. Was I favouring any country atall? I would suggest that you read my message again and see what I was really trying to say, with a calm mind not agitated. I have implied both India and Pakistan with a special reference to Canada where I have spent 6 years of my life and seen a number of atrocities due to obsolete and unfair laws existing, being practised and taken undue advantage of by the Employers and the Canadians in general. And who is to be blamed in the end? The US! Is it really fair of people to keep blaming it on another country for their own weaknesses and faults? If Pakistan has terrorists hidden in its territory, then without any further discussions as to who is who and false ego, it should like a true Muslim nation of values see to it that are none left anymore to make its land neat, clean and free of terror. It will only go in its favour and the world will recognise its efforts too. Same with India! If our Security and Iintelligence haven't been vigilant enough in stopping the terrorists from doing what they have recently done, then there is no one else to be blaimed but we ourselves.
    Ego is ther biggest cause and poison where the destruction of the world is concerned. Your offensive words will not serve any purpose and could be very harmful for India.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/18/2008 11:47:27 PM

    In 1971, jewish general, persian field marshal, sikh general - all Indians defeated Pakistan and 90,00 paki soldiers surrenderd in 2 weeks!!!

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/18/2008 11:43:54 PM

    I a Kashmiri want all of Kashmir to stay with India.
    There is no future with Pakistan - NaPak.
    Kashmiri terrorists drove out 250,000 hindoos and 100,00 muslims from their homes to other parts of India. I was one of the 100,00 muslim who left to other part of India.
    Pakis send paktuns, sudanese, moroccons, algerians, libyans, tunisians yemenis jihadi terroists to Indian Kashmir to terrorize us.
    Kashmir stays with India.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/18/2008 11:40:25 PM

    KAMRAN SHAFI says - DAWN MAGAZINE DECEMBER 16, 2008
    ":On his part, President Asif Ali Zardari has said that whilst our intelligence agencies may well have had some connection to jihadi groups (read LeT) pre-9/11, they do not any more. And that if at all there were Pakistanis involved in the Mumbai attacks they were non-state actors. He also said that India had not yet provided Pakistan with enough evidence of Pakistanis being involved in the first place.
    Why then, good sirs, were government goons despatched to Faridkot to discourage the media from asking questions of the villagers to investigate the fact of Kasab???s residence there? Why, indeed, do the president and his minders not know that the father has admitted that the boy Kasab is indeed his son who was lured away by militants some years ago?"

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/18/2008 11:39:16 PM

    Kamran Shafi:
    and

    "We, and our many spokespersons and even more spin quacks, can stand on our heads; we can jump through hoops and turn cartwheels for all the world cares. Pakistan has long been perceived to be the fountainhead of terror and terror-related activities, no matter where in the world they are committed. The latest Bombay outrage has only solidified that perception."

    And
    "But let???s do some stocktaking, and see if the perception is unfair, and only a wicked Hindu/Jewish/American conspiracy as some of our media allege. For which we will go back a few years and recall, as just two examples, the beauties called Jose Padilla, who was accused of attempting to use a dirty bomb in a large American city, and Richard Reid, the shoe-bomber who allegedly tried to blow up an airliner on a transatlantic flight.

    Padilla was an American and a violent man who had done time for robbery and was convicted of ???aggravated assault and manslaughter as a juvenile when a gang member he kicked in the head died???. Richard Reid was a Briton, a petty criminal who in the mid-1990s was ???jailed for a string of muggings, for which he served sentences in a number of prisons, including Feltham young offenders??? institution in west London???. They both visited this country several times over the years before they were arrested.

    Jose Padilla is doing 17 years and Richard Reid something like 300 years in US prisons, and while it is no business of ours to question the validity of the sentences imposed, we have to ask just who in the world let these two into this blessed country in the first place. Not once but several times.

    What impelled the visa-issuing officials of the Pakistani mission to issue these two Pakistani visas? They, the both of them, had criminal records as long as my arm; they both had no occupation to speak of, unless mugging and armed robbery and murder are occupations; Richard Reid had no fixed abode; and far more than anything else they both looked utterly disreputable. How then did they walk in and out of the Land of the Pure with such ease?"

    Therefore from Pakistani accounts
    1. Mumbai terrorists were pakistanis.
    2. All terrorists are allowed into pakistan to get terrorism training.

    Very Damning account.

    Let us see what Mr. 10 percent says on December 16, 2008.
    Zardari - Mr. 10 percent bribe taker during his wife Benaziir Bhutto Prime Ministership says:
    "Referring to the regional situation in the wake of the Mumbai attacks, President Zardari said there was no evidence of the involvement of any Pakistani."


  • Posted By: JKLF-R @ 12/18/2008 11:05:47 PM

    The distrust between India and Pakistan which has plagued the subcontinent in the second half of 20th century and impeded the development and progress of more than a billion people has to come to an end.
    India needs to divorce its efforts of trying to gain retreat in the changed perspective after 9/11, in the notion of war against terror to keep physical control of Kashmir and avert the pressure from International community.

    It needs to prove its credentials through action in adhering to the democratic principle which it very proudly exaggerates in front of world community. Its credentials as a democratic country are jeopardized when one witnesses how it has, civilian people under siege with 800 hundred thousand army presence within its streets, villages and hamlets in Kashmir.

    It needs to prove the democratic high morals which its present Prime minister daringly pronounced while addressing the joint congress of United States which I quote??? Democracy is not defined by what is written in the constitution but how it functions on ground???

    It needs to prove that it does not use its acquired military might to unleash terror in the Valley of Kashmir upon civilian people to enforce its will to negate the basic unalienable right of self determination of Kashmiries.

    It needs to prove that colonization of Kashmir is a misconstrued concept and decolonization is as relevant today as it was, when it fought for its own freedom against British rule

    It needs to accept the fact that people of Kashmir are not up against in the name of religion but for an opportunity for a fair democratic verdict to choose their future course of their nation.
    If someone wants to find the reminiscence of 20th century colonial rule, Kashmir is the place to visit.

    He will find how claimant of largest democracy in the world holds civilian people under siege with 800 hundred thousand army presence within its streets, villages and hamlets.
    He will find how claimant of responsible democratic country uses inhuman laws and methods to stifle the voice of freedom

    He will find how under the garb of fighting terrorism it uses its acquired military might to unleash terror in the Valley of Kashmir upon civilian people in order to negate the basic unalienable right to decide their future as guaranteed by international community.

    He will find how will fully it shut its eyes to daily killings of men, women and children as a matter of routine governance in Kashmir


    If democracies commit human rights abuse that are committed in Kashmir by India, then democracies are not defined by moral power of people, but the powerful define democracy, thereby undermining its purpose of governance.

    India has taken sanctuary and advantage in the changed perspective after 9/11. in the notion of ???war against terror??? to keep control of Kashmir and International community at bay.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/18/2008 10:55:32 PM

    The headquarters of the Al Qaeda, the headquarters of the Taliban, the headquarters of Lashkar-e-Taiba, the headquarters of Jaish-e-Mohammad is in the world centre of terrorism ??? Pakistan,???

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/18/2008 10:41:21 PM

    Kamran Shafi:
    and

    "We, and our many spokespersons and even more spin quacks, can stand on our heads; we can jump through hoops and turn cartwheels for all the world cares. Pakistan has long been perceived to be the fountainhead of terror and terror-related activities, no matter where in the world they are committed. The latest Bombay outrage has only solidified that perception."

    And
    "But let???s do some stocktaking, and see if the perception is unfair, and only a wicked Hindu/Jewish/American conspiracy as some of our media allege. For which we will go back a few years and recall, as just two examples, the beauties called Jose Padilla, who was accused of attempting to use a dirty bomb in a large American city, and Richard Reid, the shoe-bomber who allegedly tried to blow up an airliner on a transatlantic flight.

    Padilla was an American and a violent man who had done time for robbery and was convicted of ???aggravated assault and manslaughter as a juvenile when a gang member he kicked in the head died???. Richard Reid was a Briton, a petty criminal who in the mid-1990s was ???jailed for a string of muggings, for which he served sentences in a number of prisons, including Feltham young offenders??? institution in west London???. They both visited this country several times over the years before they were arrested.

    Jose Padilla is doing 17 years and Richard Reid something like 300 years in US prisons, and while it is no business of ours to question the validity of the sentences imposed, we have to ask just who in the world let these two into this blessed country in the first place. Not once but several times.

    What impelled the visa-issuing officials of the Pakistani mission to issue these two Pakistani visas? They, the both of them, had criminal records as long as my arm; they both had no occupation to speak of, unless mugging and armed robbery and murder are occupations; Richard Reid had no fixed abode; and far more than anything else they both looked utterly disreputable. How then did they walk in and out of the Land of the Pure with such ease?"

    Therefore from Pakistani accounts
    1. Mumbai terrorists were pakistanis.
    2. All terrorists are allowed into pakistan to get terrorism training.

    Very Damning account.

    Let us see what Mr. 10 percent says on December 16, 2008.
    Zardari - Mr. 10 percent bribe taker during his wife Benaziir Bhutto Prime Ministership says:
    "Referring to the regional situation in the wake of the Mumbai attacks, President Zardari said there was no evidence of the involvement of any Pakistani."

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/18/2008 10:40:20 PM

    KAMRAN SHAFI says - DAWN MAGAZINE DECEMBER 16, 2008
    ":On his part, President Asif Ali Zardari has said that whilst our intelligence agencies may well have had some connection to jihadi groups (read LeT) pre-9/11, they do not any more. And that if at all there were Pakistanis involved in the Mumbai attacks they were non-state actors. He also said that India had not yet provided Pakistan with enough evidence of Pakistanis being involved in the first place.
    Why then, good sirs, were government goons despatched to Faridkot to discourage the media from asking questions of the villagers to investigate the fact of Kasab???s residence there? Why, indeed, do the president and his minders not know that the father has admitted that the boy Kasab is indeed his son who was lured away by militants some years ago?"


  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/18/2008 8:07:30 PM

    malikrose is retarded and needs your help.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/18/2008 8:06:24 PM

    Paki newspapers went to kasab's village and kasab father verified his son was the mumbai terrorist .
    AMEN!!

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/18/2008 8:05:40 PM

    Pakis can't even feed themselves? what are they going to fight with?
    All in all pakis have 5-10 nukes.
    India will still be standing, even after nuke war but pak will be obliterated from globe.
    And who do you think will stand with India - the rest of the freee world already knows what terrorist pakis are.
    Oviously after obama comes, US tropps itching to inavde paki napak land will get the green light.
    US is already daily invading napak pakistan and spineless cowards pakis have kept quiet except "complaining
    The terror state with puppet civilian ruler Zardari and bvut the real ruler pakimilitary and bearded mullah agents of ISI will have no options.
    Britsh Pm already said pakis are doing 75% of terror attacks in UK.
    No food to eat, no loans from Saudis and chinese and cut off from IMF, napak paki land will fold up faster then a pack of cards. One good kick in the right place and the Paki stani terrorist house of horrors will crash!!


  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/18/2008 6:17:06 PM

    Paki mumbai terrorist - 5 foot tall kasab was beaten by mumbai passerbys and handed to cops. He spilled the beans about him being a lashkar taiba terrorist.
    US, british, Israelis besides Indians have verified that all mumbai terrorists were pakis.
    Paki newspapers went to kasab's village and kasab father verified his son was the mumbai terrorist .
    AMEN!!

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/18/2008 6:13:31 PM

    Pakis can't even feed themselves? what are they going to fight with?
    All in all pakis have 5-10 nukes.
    India will still be standing, even after nuke war but pak will be obliterated from globe.
    And who do you think will stand with India - the rest of the freee world already knows what terrorist pakis are.
    Oviously after obama comes, US tropps itching to inavde paki napak land will get the green light.
    US is already daily invading napak pakistan and spineless cowards pakis have kept quiet except "complaining
    The terror state with puppet civilian ruler Zardari and bvut the real ruler pakimilitary and bearded mullah agents of ISI will have no options.
    Britsh Pm already said pakis are doing 75% of terror attacks in UK.
    No food to eat, no loans from Saudis and chinese and cut off from IMF, napak paki land will fold up faster then a pack of cards. One good kick in the right place and the Paki stani terrorist house of horrors will crash!!

  • Posted By: malikrose3 @ 12/18/2008 5:27:03 PM

    Here comes the final proof, Shah Rukh is an Insane and an Idiot. Anyone, who tries to talk logic Mr. Idiot will label him.her Pakistani or Jehadi.

    This idiot I believe is a paid RAW agent and may be a member of BJP or other TERRORIST HINDO groups, who don't have brain to understand any logic and only revolve around their ???
    Mr. Idiot read Indian news papers, now many realistic Indian journalist are openly saying " Mombai killing seems to be a RAW + MOSAD combine act", in an attempt to try to put extended pressure on Pakistan and try to get any benefit if they can during the last days of a fanatic and internation shoe award winner "BUSH".
    But problem is idiots and Insanes don't have the capacity to understan any thing. Due to the fact that their brain lacks many functional neurons in many areas related with concrete thinking and assessment. So what one can do?

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/18/2008 2:48:54 PM

    asinghla is Pakistani pretending to be Indian!!!

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