End of the Line for Islamabad

Pakistan in search of ???IMAN??? as a nation without ???iman???
Zardar I: I very much doubt, Larry, that he's a Pakistani.
How irresponsible statement from a head of state. It is not new phenomena in Pakistan history. They call it??? Iman??? in Southeast Asian muslim. Is an Islamic term usually translated as "belief or faith" and is often used to refer to the strength of conviction in a Muslim.As an Islamic nation Pakistan ???Iman??? is DEAD.Muslim without Iman is like human being without life. It is in quran too, I don???t know which quran they are reading?
True muslim always takes responsibility of his doings. In India they still like??? KHAN???.A community migrate from Northwest frontier of Pakistan. One of there leader during Indian independence was called??? frontier Gandhi???. Trust and word of that KHAN is synonyms with IMAN of Muslims??? remember in my school days in Bombay ,we had a lesson called ???Kabuli chacha??? I still remember that Kabuli. Kabuli was synonyms with love for kids, a giant personality, larger then life. It is no more now.
Well that was history. Now, muslims in subcontinent has to go long before they recapture that status.
Looking at current Pakistani as a nation. I think they lost all the credibility as a nation. There statements, there ACTs, there double standard .Pakistan as a nation chasing PROUD at the cost of IMAN .

Yes, Pakistan must choose; but India must also choose, as Arundhti Roy clearly argues ina piece published in The Guardian of UK titled "The Monster in the Mirror"

To commentators on another Newsweek blogged article who cited M.J. Akbar as a voice of reason but also lambasted Fareed Zakaria (I find both too tolerant of Hindu India's intolerance against Muslims) I pointed out the following.

<< M.J. Akbar, just like Fareed Zakaria, is a very, very honourable Muslim who believes in the verse of the Quran that I have cited (Allah does not put a burden of the shoulders of anybody without also giving him the strength to shoulder that burden) slightly too literally, and probaly in isolation rather than reading its meaning in the context of the whole Quran and ahaaddith and developments in science that have been made since and continue to be made.

As I have said, and I repeat, I am not going all the way with Arundhati Roy in her reasoning, but I am a little more realistic than M.J. Akbar and Fareed Zakaria in the sense that my training in Game Theory has prepared me to think rationally (using Game Theory as a powerful tool of analysis) about how we could come to know about the existence of a Superior Being if He exists, and how the Meaning of The Holy Quran is fuly revealed to us gradually as we evolve, and as we colonize space and maybe even migrate to other habitable regions of our galaxy. Unlike Dick Cheney who had no idea of what he was talking about when he made fun of the highly-scientific concepts of the known knowns, the known unkowns, the knowable unknowns and the unknowable unkowns, I know one or two things in science to appreciate how much wisdom was wrapped up in Nobel Prize-winning Physicist Abdus Salaam's quotation of the Holy Quran when, in his acceptance speech for the Nobel Prize, he quoted the verse " Thou seest not, in the creation of the All-merciful any imperfection, Return thy gaze, seest thou any fissure? Then, Return thy gaze, again and again. Thy gaze comes back to thee dazzled, aweary."

Abdus Salaam went on to claim: "This, in effect, is the faith of all physicists; the deeper we seek, the more is our wonder excited, the more is the dazzlement for our gaze".

Professor Peter Turchin, author, among other cutting-edge scientific works in the new science of Cliodynamics, of the book "War, Peace&War", has been studying the Islamic concept of 'Asbiya (solidarity, or what some social scientists are now calling 'social, cultural, and spiritual capital' as a main force explaining the cycles of History. Anybody interested can read his book and visit his website http://www.eeb.uconn.edu/people/turchin/.

India is the country of birth of my father, of my wife and of one of my three children and I will do everything in my might to uphold the noble "idea of India". But, yes, India must also choose how it treats its minorities, its vulnerable groups, and how it throws its weigh

Physicians with jehadi mindset are a danger to the American society. I hope the FBi will monitor such "physicians".

Pak jehadi fluffy brains don't understand international rules and norms since there is only anti-India psychopathic delusion in paki fluffy brains. UN, and world community will not and do not care for what happens inside a country. Simple concept like these are beyoynd the scope of paki fluffy brains, physician jehadis!!!

EXAMPLE: ISI has a sunni muslim terrorist group (Lashkar-e-Janghvi) , that bombs and kills Shia muslims (also Pakistani citizens). at their places of worship. Ban Ki Moon at the UN does not call Zardari and tells him to take action. DR.Rice doesnt come to Islamabad urging action against the sunni terrorist group. VERY SIMPLE.

But if you train a terrorist group, and send them out to a neighbhouring country to kill Americans, Germans, French and Singaporeans...Ban Ki Moon at the UN and Dr.Rice get excited. Simple concepts, once again beyond the scope of comprehension by fluffy paki brains, PAK PHYSICIAN JEHADIS.


For Americans, here is the view point of Kashmiri Hindus who went through geneocide and ethnic cleansing and driven out of their homeland by Pakistan's terrorism.
Visit AUSCHWITZ IN KASHMIR:
http://www.kashmiri-pandit.org/atrocities/index.html

For the Pakistani Democracy this will be an opportunity to reduce army's power and sow firm roots for people of Pakistan to stabilise their economy. The aid from US for Pakistan was never used for right reasons and US is responsible for that. Parheps US had its own agenda to to keep sub-continent unstable but if India will not get the results India wants from Pakistani civilian government then US will have to change their mind and declare Pakistan a terrorist state and impose sactions with UN agreement.

M salu is Pakistani!!!!! What is this mental disorder amongst pakistnis that they pretend to be Indians or westerners when posting nonsense here? But they give themselves away very soon!!! Not good at lying either but continue to do so in hope some idiot will believe it!!!!
Is this the kind of life you Pakistanis lead? I mean open your eyes - no one likes you in the whole world. When the World think about your country the ONLY thing they think is one word - TERRORISM/t!!!!
Haven't you got any shame?
But if you had any why would many of you pretend to be Indians when asked about your natioanlity.!!
Pakis watch Indian movies, listen to Indian music and then go and badmouth India and committ acts of terror! agianst it!!
Have you got no sense of self respect? I know you are shameless people. It happens when one's ancestors were converted by force, but that was some time ago, can't you just forget that you are descendants of forced hindoo converts and let this inferiorirty complexes go? Can't you concentrate your anger at shias or any of your muslim minorities and forget about India and the rest of the World and let the World live in peace? Is that too hard for you?

True, US have to intervene and adopt some serious measures like curing jihadi thinking in Pakistan and isolating terrorists

Malikrose look at yourself in the mirror closely and for long time. You will see in your face the face of a hindoo.
Your ancestors were forced to convert by sword by the foreign invaders - slave turks/turk-mongols/arabs who all came from outside India.
You need serious psychiatrist help if you don't realize the history of Indian subcontinet that is in every book - maybe not in pakistani books.
The rajputs, jats, khatris, an dother hindoos in your terrorist nation of pakistan were converted by force of sword. It is history.
I know it is hard to digest the hsitorical facts about your dark religion but be happy because the foreign invaders - the salve turks, turo-mongols, persians were themslves converted by sword by the Arabs. That is why they are called salves. Slave soldiers of arabs.
There is no need to get angry by history.
Main thing is you pakistanis realize that most of you are converted Hindoos whose ancestors were converted by sword.
Now I am Kashmiri myself. All Kashmiris in India don't want to be part of Pariah nation of pakistan. No one.
All this insurgency is insitgated by Pakistani jihadis most of them pastuns and pakistani punjabis. The pakistani punjabis control Pakistan and usepoor punjabis and pastuns as terrorists while themslves living lives of luxury with vast land holdings and owning factories. This kashmiri insurgency is all made up by Pakistan. pakistani military and its beared mullah ISI agents want to have India as a diversion so they can rule Pakistan. That is a well known fact wthin Pakistan itself.
Get psychiatrist help malikrose3 beacuse you need it. May be a psychiatrist can bring you back to reality and may be may be make you sane.

I beleive Mr. Shah Rukh you need a psychiatric help, need treatment for your "Delusions and Illusions". You don't know anythiong about History of the region and here you are putting your twisted and stupid ideas with the hope that peopel will buy it, Utter NON SENSE.;

Go back to Kashmir and India and ask minorities, they will tell you how they feel about living in India and as for as minorities in Pakistan are concerned there can't be a single incidence where any violence was committed against minorities. Personal situations may be different but world has never seen any collective or planned aggression against minorities and no body ever forcibly converted any non Muslim towards Islam.
You study history and get proper treatment and then speak.

Malikrose3, a pakistani, who the hell are you to speak on behalf of minorities. Indian muslims and kashmiris are well and happy in India. in fact pakistan must han dover its occupied part of kashmir to India. Pakistan must handover the part of kashmir that it gave away free to china some 30 years ago.
Pakistan is the future to be branded terrorist state ruled by its military that controls large landholdings and controls its puppet civilian government. Pakistanis kicked out forcefully all of its minorities or forced them to convert.
Pakistan is ruled by sunni muslims who mistreat their shias. The sunnis mistreat christians, and whatever is left of hindu minority. The sunni pakistani mistreat their ismalis, bahais too.
The word pakistan is associated with 1 thing only "terrorism." And the whole world knows that pakistan is epicenter of terrorism.
The Indian kashmiris are instigated by pakistanis. They have no greivances and all of them want to live in democratic India. The Pakistani military and ISI trained terror outfith Laskar E taibba that send mumbai killers to murder innocent unarmed civilians is one player in iinstigating kashmiris. US and India are very happy that lashkar days are numbered as its leaders are under arrest. By putting more pressure on pakistan who is begging for money from IMF to feed its people, all pakistani terror outfits will be dismantled. It is end of line for pakistani terror outfits pretending to be fighting for imaginary kashmiri grievances. All leaders of these terror outfits will have day in a court of law.

Shah Rukh you look like an agent of RAW, paid or unpaid?? There is always a minority even if it may be 0.0001% and Mr Shah Rukh is among that 0.0001%.
My friend how dare you writa an support a terrorist army, who has killed tens of thousands of kashmiri men, woemen and children over the past 60 years. How you can forget torture, and killing of children and raping of women before the eyes of their men and looting and burning of properties of Kashmiri by Hindoe extremists.
Do you think that millions of Kashmiri, who have been persistently denouncing Indian ruling in Kashmir and have been demanding right of self determination from India are all stupid and you are the one and only correct. Do you??

Accept reality and stop this nonsense. If you have personal reason to express your anger, don't try to be a representative fo overwhelming majority of Kashmiris.

Pakistan's problem is that it doesn't have true leadership and wehn it has region will be clean of Indian terror and Indian minorities will also live in peace. And it will happen in our lives.

Khurram is a typical Pakistani who first admits that all 10 mumbai terrorist were Pakistanis.
Then he proceeds to call them endearingly 10 young boys whereas th erest of the World callas them terrorists.
This people is how a typical Pakistani thinks.
To a Pakistani murders and killers are "10 young boys."
No one lin the whole world ikes pakistanis.
From Chil eto canada, from Japan to iceland, everyone wants to keep away from a pakistani. It is just abad evil word. Since all terrorist have links with Pakistan.

Pakistan lost all wars against India. In 1971 India sliced half of Pakistan into Bangladesh. Pakistan went with a begging bowl to its allies Saudi Arabi aand chin asking for free money but they turned them down. Pakistan had to ask International Monetary fund for money to keep its broken economy afloat. otherwis eits people would go hungry! They even hav eto beg money for food.
Whereas India is considerd a rapidly rising economic superpower in the World. India scientists, software professionals are considere dthe best in the World. While pakistan is facing the evil of terrorism it created.

Where the hell were you Mr. Zakaria when the Indian RAW and its terrorist agent Col Rohit bombed Samjhota Express and as a result 67 innocent Pakistanis were burnt to death alive.
I dont remember reading your article condeming your beloved India which you left for makin money in the USA?

Well, frankly speaking India simply cannot afford to respond to its so called 9/11 like US did in 2001. Because if ten young boys can rip Bombay apart in 60 hours, imagine what the entire Pak Army will do to the Indians in a full scale war. India & its allies must never forget that Pakistan is a nuclear armed country thanks to our great leader Zulfikar Ali Bhutto

Well frankly speaking India simply cant afford to respond to its so called 9/11like US did in 2001. Because if ten young boys can rip Bombay apart in 60 hours, imagine what the entire Pak Army will do to the Indians in a full scale war. India & its allies must never forget that Pakistan is a nuclear armed country thanks to our great leader Zulfikar Ali Bhutto

malikrose is a Pakistani .
Let us look at Pakistanis.
They are descendants of barbaric, murderous invaders whose orgins go back to arabs from iraq, forcefully converted persians, slave soldiers of arabs the slave turks, the mongols converted by their arab conquerors etc.
After the muslim invaders came they forced on the basis of sword mass conversions of people of native hindu, buddhist other Indian religions. Their descendants became muslims too.
As time passed these converts began to make up fantastic stories about their orgins to gloriy themsleves in order to justify their actions as they joined their conquerors.
Hindu temples were demolished by them, buddhist pagodas destroyed. Using the materials from the destroyed temples they build mosques on top of them!
Pillaging, looting, forced conversions, dishonoring of women of the conquered hindus and buddhist was the past time of invading muslims.
Some native hindus did indeed become muslims willingly to garner favor with the muslim invaders.
a few did willingly.

Sally425 is a pakistani radical posing as a woman!!
Like all extremeist Pakistanis sally 425 lies and lies.
Look at the gall of this Pakistani!
His countrymen Pakistani terrorists attacking mumbai murdered Citiznes of USA, Australia, great Britain, France, Italy, Germany, Japan, China, Canada besides score soF indians which included many Indian muslims and this Pakistani extremeist sally425 man is talking nonsense! These Pakistani terrorist smurderd scores oF Innocent jews.
Zakaria is correct.
It is indeed end of the line for Pakistan.
Pakistanis have a very very bad reputation in the World. From Japan to Iceland, from australia to Argentina, everyone knows Pakistan is the Godfather of islamic terrorists. All terrorist have been associated with Pakistan in some way.
No one wants to associate themselves with Pakistanis.

Not the iranians who are shias. look what pakistani Sunnis have been doing to pakistani shias.
See how pakistanis treat their ismalilis with disdain and hatred.
Pakistanis even don't like their Mohajirs! Mohajirs would the Indian muslims who migrated to Pakistan.
Look athe shamelessness oF pakistanis like sally425 talking about Kashmir.
What kind of World would Kashmiris get to live in Pakistan?
Just like Mohajirs they will get the real taste of pakistani hatred.
What kind of environment would Kashmiris go to? An environment of terrorism, ethnic hatred, the pakistani punjabis would settle in Kashmir and make it like hell.
The lustful pastuns would control Kashmir. They know nothing of civilization except fighting with each other besides fighting outsiders.
Like Pakistani punjabis control Pakistan, they would control the destiny of Kashmiris.
NO, NO, No Kashmiris are better with India.

End of line for Pakistan, indeed it is.

II see many Indians posting their comments and expressing their anger and hate towards Pakistan. As a matter of fact these are the descendents of "Extremist Hindos" in India. India is the only country in the world, where every single moment a minority member (Muslim, Christian and Jews, sikh) is either being hurt, killed and or his/her property burned. And this has been going on since India came into existence. Extremist and violent Hindos have killed millions of men, women, and children and believe India is only for Hindos. In many cases violence and crimes against Indian minorities are directly or indirectly supported by its political parties or by the governing party in a state. India is the only country on the earth where a historical Mosque build 400 plus years ago was demolished by a well organized and planned move and entire world saw "Hindo" extremists with instruments and arms and authorities not only watched as a bystanders but many police personnel personally involved in demolition.
Indian's real face is bloody and horrible. Nowhere in the world minorities are persistently being tortured, killed and their properties burned/destroyed. Indian history is full of crimes against humanity. India's mass murder of Sikhs is not a forgotten story, where thousand of Sikhs were tortured and killed and their properties burned. Looting and burning of properties of the minorities is a favorite hobby of extremist and violent Hindos. Sikhs can never forget and that's what caused mass migration of sikhs into US and Canada.
Recent Bombay drama is a state sponsored act of terrorism by Indian government. And again purpose is to put pakistan under pressure. India has been involved in terrorist activities not only in Pakistan but in other neighboring countrise like Sri Linka. Due to the mentallity and terror of Hindo extremists theer are moments of Independence from India in many of Indian states.
Indians shouldn't forget that about 50% of Indian population lives either at or below poverty level and situation in Pakistan is only slightly better. Indians should press their government to stop crimes against its minorities and learn to respect right of minorities. Respect of human rights and religious tolerance are the tow things Indians need to learn.
My comments will be incomplete if I don't mention a terror plot carried out by Indian army officers. It was an Indian army colonel who along with other fellow officers bombed a peace train carrying passengers , which killed around 300 individuals and injured lot more. Investigation was still continued that during the Bombay plot the intelligence officer investigating this case was killed along with his fellows. Is isn???t enough to believe/prove that Indian army and agencies have been involved in terrorist activities.

Let the political problems between Pakistan and India be solved, then one will see an automatic demise of extremism from both countries. But then how will the ILLITRATE (holding a university degree does not necessarily makes a person litrate) political leaders of both countries will survive. My assesment is that majority of general public in both country wishes to live in peace and with good relations with each other but the vested interests will not let this happen.(It includes international players TOO)