End of the Line for Islamabad

It is ludicrous to simplify terrorism without discussion on the fanatics Hindu terrorist organizations within India and their support by the most notorious organization RAW; staffed by the high cast Hindu extremists. Hindu extremists killed more than 100,000 Sikhs, displaced a greater number and loot and plunder by Hindu fanatics after the massacre at Golden Temple. Then notorious RAW flexed its muscle in Sri Lanka; sponsoring terrorism there through Tamil Tigers. The same notorious organization started killing Kashmiris and already killed more than 100,000 peaceful civilians. Sufferings of 160 million Dalits is another story of Hindu extremism. Killing of 20,000 muslims in Gujrat and election of super killer wild animal Mooddy is another example of Hindu Fanatics. The problems lies within Indian society which is reflected in all their movies which shows that Indian society is composed of only Dons, Criminals, Dancer Prostitutes, Corrupt Police Officers and drunk civilians. Hindu rulers of India has to find out the solution within their own country. Instead of curing the wounds of people killed in Bombay Carnage the cunning Indian Army and notorious RAW of High Cast Hindu are trying to take advantage of Great Game played by CIA in this region. They have replaced Pakistani military which used to serve CIA before the end of first cold war between US and USSR. Now it is between USA and China. India has become a platform of US game against China. Pakistan, being the close friend of China, is caught in between. The extremist organizations are still controlled and paid by CIA through Saudis and Pakistan cannot annoy Saudis. We Pakistanis hate these extremist organization funded by Saudis and CIA for their nefarious designs. Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka and Afghanistan will continue to bleed until we kick out CIA, and their partner Saudis from this region.

To be fair, what has happened in India is some thing more than horrible. But at the same time the comments try to justify the attack than to denounce it. I am starting to see the world to be a crezy place popullated with crezy people. I am so sorry to say this. Come on it is time to stand againest terrorism of any kind not justify it giving another names. Thanks Zakaria.

what about indian army personal called prohit who was involved in the sanjota exprress train massacre
that was also blamed on pakistan intelligence at initial stage. Why after sovied war a young country like pakistan whose
ruler at that time were the darling of european and americas left us in hand of these terrorist after the fall of soviet union.
i think the world should seriously think about how to combat rather than blame game .more pakistani have been killed in suicide attack than any other country. why do these terrorist kill pakistani citizen its only that the rest of the world have stopped givin them dollars. so to solve this remove politics and be sincere and i am sure the world will be free from this meance. we regret the incident in bombay and marriott hotel in islamabad.

I am kashmiri from srinagar and the valley became hell since the Pakistanis let loose terrorists on it. It all started in 1989. The year Soviet Union left Afghanistan. Pakistanis turned those jihadis against Indian rule. They instigated all of this so called revolt against Indian rule. Many jihadis terrorists pakistanis recurited were not even from South Asia or even pakistan. There many many arabs and sudanese. Well the valley, my beautiful Kashmir became sort of like a land of despair. Tourists left the valley. In name of religion Pakistanis took away the other part of Kashmir. And after inmsitgating a rebellion in the valley they wanted my valley. Given a choice, we would like to stay peacefully in India. We don't want to be part of a terrorist state of Pakistan. We don't want these pakistani punjabis ruling over us just like they are ruling over entire Pakistan. Look what they have turned Pakistan into. This was not what Jinnah wanted. Jinnah wanted a secular and tolerant country. We don't want these Pakistani punjabis taking away our resources and settling in our lands. We have nothing in common with them Pakistani punjabis.

bibI would like to comment on the gay marriage issue. I think someone tried to eliminae the Bible and all religion - his name was Hitler. He had to eliminate religion to carry out his plan. He therefore got the people to approve genocide. I for one intend to continue to believe in the Bible. iIt has weathered many storms from the begiinning of Christianity to the present. A society with no religious underpiniings is doomed to disintegration. I am tired of hearing about sexual orientation. iI refuse to let a group of genetic mutations drag society down. No I am not an evagelical fanatic, but a college professor who attends the Lutheran Church. Camille Smith

I highly advice Indian Govt and world community to SCRAPPED this Peace Process between India and Pakistan. You can not and should not deal with this country, In the name of PEACE, they Backstabbing you and Killing Innocent people. Whom we are going to trust here, there are three POWER BROKER in Pakistan.
CIVILIAN govt.= with No Actual Power
Military and Intelligence = INDIA cant not and should not trust them anymore. After kargil, Kashmir and Mumbai terror
NON state Actor (new Equation in Pakistan), In conjuction with ISI and Military, they are real POWER in Pakistan now. And I don???t think India is ready to deal with this NON STATE ACTOR for peace process..
Rather then wasting our time in this peace process, we have to barbed our border with Pakistan and lay down LANDMINE. And Forget about Pakistan for sure .Spend money on defense.
And Thanks Fareed and Newsweek for letting my anger vent through your magazine.

I am displeased that Fareed

I am rather displeased that Fareed mentions"Even the Hindu fundamentalist Bharatiya Janata Party, traditionally ultrahawkish, is advocating "coercive diplomacy," calling on the world community to insist .." Actually Bharath means India, Janata means People and actually it is Indian Peoples Party. How would you like to call the Congress party the Bogus Secular Party?. The Hindus are traditionally non violent and put up with offense as Karma. The Hindus have never invaded another country over 5000 years that we know of. BJP party leader Advanis' driver is a muslim.They are not a fundamentalist party.All they want is parity and real scularism as in USA

In my last post I have mention,???Pakistan as a nation suffering from Mental Disorder???. Just try to clarify that comment. Why I believe in this, we have to go back 60 years of Pakistani history. I don???t want go back to that distance ,but to start with 71 war ,Whole world was convince that India was winning the war and liberated Bangla Desh. Pakistani Media and Politician???s were telling different story to there population that Pakistani is winning the war and killing Hindus??? Blatant Lie.
Look at current episode of Mumbai terror, Statement from few well known Pakistani including Zardari.
Zardari??? Larry I don???t think he is Pakistani.
Hameed Gul ???It is Hindu Zionist work???, if 10 kid can do this carnage, what happened if we send 1200 kid.
Zaid Hamid ???He don???t even look like Pakistani, Pakistani don???t look like this ( Kasab)
Musharaff ???Just Blame Game, even if they are Pakistani, we are not responsible
Hamid Meer ???Hindu extremist work
As a nation they are living in denial, not one or two, whole nation has this psyche. Funny thing is that they don???t merely argue they believe in this story.
We don???t even have to go that far, Musharaff made fool of Bush Administration since 9/11,
After 10 B $ and years of fake cooperation, they lie so easily and effortless, OSAMA ,Zawahari ,OMAR ,all are in safe custody of ISI ,
Take one more example of A Q Khan, Everybody knows that AQ khan is not alone in setting up nuclear wal mart . Paki ISI and military and politician are involved as much. They lied blatantly in face of world community.
India is suffering for last 60 yrs.as a neighbor of this mental disorder Nation.
I can go on and on. all this and much more incidence proved that this Nation as a whole is living under some illusion ,As ex sec. of state mention that Pakistan is international migraine ,I will go one step ahead ,they are as a nation suffering Severe Mental disorder . As International community has to give them big dose of PROZAC. They are Laughing stock of the world; I hope Jay Leno will take note of this in his new role in NBC

Will the pakis ever indulge in nation building? Do they need more lands? Will they ever focus on education, and progress? Will they ever stop being the warrior country? That???s all India wants Pakis to do. From 1947 onwards things haven't panned the way founders of Pakistan dreamed of. Both the British and Pak founders thought Pak would grow and do much better than India , and didn't expect India to survive together for too long. Large chunks of Paki population, and the "Pakistani two nation theory ideologues" in Pak military establishment still cannot digest the success of India . Mr. Ralph Peters has written a much more perspicacious article in New York Post on the Mumbai massacre pointing out envy is the key motivator.



How long and how far will the Pakis indulge in this jehad? Murdering unarmed civilians backed up with the threat of nuclear war? It is high time rest of the humanity stands up with India, NOT FOR THE SAKE OF INDIA, but for its own sake.

To those people here who are trying to be "neutral" and trying to defend Pakis: India is a multi-ethnic, multi-religious society founded on an ideal that every one is equal under the constitution. Some of India ???s citizens belonging to EVERY GROUP have attempted to undermine its foundations over the years, and continue to do so. THIS DOES NOT NEGATE OR UNDERMINE THE IDEA OF INDIA AND WHAT WE STRIVE FOR. Christian defense minister, Sikh prime minister, Muslim President, Orthodox Jews living in Mumbai this is what we are about and this is what we cherish. To pull this, and conduct elect democratic governments amidst such poverty for 61 years is no small feat. Add in the factor of Pak being our neighbor!!



Another myth peddled by "experts" everywhere in Western media is once " Kashmir problem" is solved everything will be hunky dory. There is Kashmir ???problem??? and then there is Pakistan problem, the latter a much bigger threat to humanity. Kashmir is not a fight about real estate, but a survival question for Indians. It is a question about the very idea of India as a country, as a concept. 150 million muslims live in India in its villages and cities across the length and breadth of the country. There are many neighborhoods of cities and villages, with Muslim majority. Should they all become independent? 1000 pakistans across India ? This may sound like a rhetorical question but this was exactly what was visualized by some of the Paki ideologues pre-1947 and still dreamed by many in the Pak army and ISI. The founder and its ideologues expressed dissatisfaction at the ???moth-eaten??? Pakistan they got in 1947. And they still have gotten over it.

You can never submit "concrete proof" that would satisfy the pakis. These are the same people who still believe 9/11 was done by Israel and CIA.

Finally, rest of the humanity has started to recognize the cancer of Paki jihad . The terror strategy of Paki army / ISI against India stands on one solid single pillar- PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. This time in Mumbai they messed up in the execution and have been caught red handed. How much effort would it take or how hard would it be for paki army and ISI to plot and execute a terrorist attack like the Mumbai massacre and deny it completely? Very little, and that???s why they have gotten away so many times.

This is counter intuitive. The claim made most often by Pakis is this-----" such a terrorist attack or such a military mis- adventure (like the Kargil invasion they indulged in 1999) would be detrimental to Pakistan , so why would we do it?" They have used this tactic several times in the last 61 years and each time they have been exposed!! Mumbai is turning out to be Kargil 2008. In 1999 the pakis stealthily sent out one of its regiments, the Northern infantry made of Pashtuns, to capture mountains in Kashmir, lied through the teeth for months these were ???Kashmiri freedom fighters???. Until they were humiliated internationally, were forced to admit and retreat.

jester-race, Here comes one more Hameed Gul???s disciple ,First of all you have to learn your History lesson correctly, Not from Distorted view of History in Pakistani Classroom ( well They don???t teach History there ,Only FATWA ),As you mention Muslim rule India ,It doesn???t mean you own this country ,And Let me tell you when you go to Hell ,Find Aurangzeb there and asked him ,why he convert you to Muslim? Reading your and other Pakistani???s Comment
I realized that half of Pakistani is now suffering from Mental disorder ,Name a few after 71 War ,they are suffering from Postpartum - Depressive Disorder,Gunfiring Behavior , Impulse Control Disorders, Mental Retardation - Multiple Personality Disorder, Schizophrenia . This is classic case for any psychiatric to research mental disorder for whole of Population, I also Urged to all Pharmaceuticals company to send PROZAC in bulk to Pakistan to treat this mental patients. Of course free of charge, our tax payer money. I am very serious about this, someone has to take this project and find out what is going on with this GUN trotting population?
Most of this Pakistani comments are baseless and out of illusion because of there mental disorder. They can???t even discuss rationally.

Pakistan retains a pre-civilizational tribal culture, a characteristic of ALL Muslim "lands." Because this tribal culture is rooted and cannot change under Islam Zakaria's good analysis leads to the wrong conclusion. It seems that so many non-Muslim's delude themselves when it comes to the reality of Islam's tribal culture. It will not change. And therefore, all non-Muslim lands must strategize for military victory. Tribes understand very little, but they do understand honor and shame. They can only be contained by shaming them badly enough that non-Muslim's will out of their own volition accept Modernism.

Pakistan wouldn't tolerate a US like response from India. Instead of threatining Pakistan India shoudl understand the difficult position of Pakistan in combating terror. These terrorists have deep roots in Pakistan and could not be eliminated by drone attacks from USA or surgical strikes from India. The Allied Forces and India can ill afford such measures as such steps would push Pakistan further in to the hands of Terrorists.

Pakistan is taking strict steps to check terrorism. Thousands of our army (that includes ISI) is fighting the Taliban on Western Borders and FATA. A very large number of our soldiers have laid down their lives to control the Taliban. The Terrorists have also struck deadly blows to our civilians population. Pakistan has put mor sacrifices than even the Americans or other allies.

In such cirucmstances, looking at us in suspicion is not justificed and will not be tolerated by any honourable nation (we have to balnce our national security and foreign aid),

Saleem A. Razzak
Lahore (Pakistan)
a.razzaks@yahoo.com

I find it most interesting of the response on the Mumbai attack by the Muslim clerics of Mumbai deciding not to allow the slain terrorists being given the burial with Muslim rites. Maybe the Muslim clerics could explain whether it is permissible by Islam to deny such a burial. If acceptable this could be a tremendous force to discourage the brain washed young recruits to get into terrorism. Jayaraman

well im amzed to see some indians say that pakistanis want to return to there motherland INDIA.. woah.. when did india became our motherland.. mulsims have ruled india for 1000 years.. pakistan is the symbol of that 1000 year rule, unlike today in india the muslims in power then did not carry out genocides of hindus,which they could very easily had done in that era.but no world is commited to keeping it eyes closed towards the genocide of kashmiries . It seems the value of 200 indians is greater than the victims of indian army inside kashmire. Indians can only dream about what they call AKHAND BHARAT.. sory guys you aint geting that.. never... It is an accepted fact that india has an army far greater than pakistan, so when such a situation arrises pakistan is left with few choices which includes nuckear strikes, because frankly speaking india is the one who has got to loose more. shame on the pakistani govt. for taking order from US and now taking pressure from the people who dont accept our existence.

and there is no word and concern over the indian army officers involved in murdering pakistanis in the samjhota express blasts. it seems all the rules apply on pakistan only. When is newsweek giving a complete insight on the Samjhota Express blasts, can we expect the international media to uncover the extremist hindu that is hiding behind the soft secular image.

oh yes .. and these terrorists as US calls them were Jihadis and freedom fighers when they were doing US`s dirty work against USSR.