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  • Posted By: ayesha02 @ 12/08/2008 7:45:21 AM

    what a perfect timming of mumbai attacks!!!!!!!! indians and indian government killed two birds with one stone. infact not one but many. one can easily see that how many important issues prevailing in india have lost their significance after these attacks .
    1) no focus in media on freedom movement in kashmir.
    2) no one taiks about col. prohit the real culprit of samjhota train incident in which many pakistani lost their lives.
    3) terroists killed in the very first hour police Chief Hemant Karkare (targeted killing! isn't it) why indians do not ponder over it.
    india is a country in which minorities are alienated. extremist hindus kill muslims under the patronage of their chief minister ( remember gujjrat incident) ,kill christians ( in orrisa) and sikhs. the minorities are not given their rights in this country. and remember there is a reaction to every action. indian is a biased country every ready to blame pakistan without considering its internal conditions.And why should pakistan conduct these attacks when her own foreign minister was on official visit to india?

    • Posted By: truthprevials @ 12/08/2008 9:39:10 AM

      Please read my comments in detail above...

      1. If you want to talk about freedom movement in Kasmir, are you ready to talk about freedom movements in NWFP/Balochistan/Sindh??If you want India to be divided once again on religious basis, are you ready to welcome the 200 million minoirites from India???

    • Posted By: enry_straker @ 12/08/2008 9:23:33 AM

      A Bunch of terrorists sneak in to India, kill many, kick out the entire kashmiri pundit population - and you call them freedom fighters. Why hasn't Pakistan given freedom to its part of kashmir? If you are so worried about freedom for kashmiris, why don't you prussure your army to give freedom to its part of kashmir. Oh, i forgot. Your military doesn't listen to anyone.

      You also rant about indian intolerance to its minorities. Thats so funny. India's Prime-Minister is a Sikh. It's last president was a muslim scientist. The head of the largest political party is a christian and an italian by birth. And Pakistan has managed to systematically eliminate non-muslims from its population from the time of its freedom. What is it now? 3%

      Don't insult the memory of the victims of terrorism by giving in to conspiracy theories


      2) no one taiks about col. prohit the real culprit of samjhota train incident in which many pakistani lost their lives.
      3) terroists killed in the very first hour police Chief Hemant Karkare (targeted killing! isn't it) why indians do not ponder over it.
      india is a country in which minorities are alienated. extremist hindus kill muslims under the patronage of their chief minister ( remember gujjrat incident) ,kill christians ( in orrisa) and sikhs. the minorities are not given their rights in this country. and remember there is a reaction to every action.

  • Posted By: jester-race @ 12/08/2008 9:02:12 AM

    oh please!! why is the world so concerned about these 200 people, and what about the genocide carried out by indian forces in kashmire time after time, atleast see the difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist, the only one benefiting from these attacks is India , and the attention has been diverted from the Kashmire issue.While preventing a free hand to the Al-Qaeda, the world has given India the free hand in Kashmire, why is it so hard for the kashmiries to get justice?

    • Posted By: truthprevials @ 12/08/2008 9:35:59 AM

      For somebody and a society who is used to killings, bombings, suicide attacks as a matter of daily routine..this ghastly attacks and death 200 people is not a matter of great concern..but not for a civilised society.. talking of freedom.. are you ready to grant the same freedom/chance of referendum to the people in Balochistan/NWFP/Sindh???If you talk of Kashmir, merely because of the majority muslims, what should happen to its indegenous minorities? If you want to devide India once again on religious fundamentalistic ideology, what would be the faty of 200million minorities in India.Are you ready to accomodate them????

    • Posted By: vineetsharmapm @ 12/08/2008 9:14:14 AM

      oh no ! if your one of the family member dies, you will more concen about this than world

  • Posted By: LalaG @ 12/08/2008 9:16:08 AM

    Needless to say that India will destroy itself. When atrocities are committed against humanity like in Kashmir, the blood of the innocent lashes back at the aggressor. 60 years of bloodshed in Kashmir is now taking its toll on India. India don't cry for the 164 (not 200) killed, think about the thousands you killed in Kashmir. Put your heads down in shame and see what YOU have done.

    • Posted By: truthprevials @ 12/08/2008 9:29:21 AM

      My dear Lala, open your eyes wide, wake up from the slumber or the pretence of it.See for yourself who is destroying their country with their own ma*ness..Wake up now atleast Pakistan.. or there will be.. never

    • Posted By: truthprevials @ 12/08/2008 9:20:18 AM

      My dear Lala, open your eyes wide open, wake up from the slumber or the pretence of it, see wo

  • Posted By: truthprevials @ 12/08/2008 9:15:50 AM

    We as Indians can only laugh at our ill informed Pakistani friends who are writing here, even under these trying and traumatic conditions we are going through.Appears like there is no permanent cure for this myopic view of Indians and India our brothers across the border suffering from since we got seperated, Pakistan on the basis of religion and India on the basis of Secularism.

    I would like to make sincere appeal to all the friends in Pakistan to no to talk about minorities and their issues in India.By doing so you are only doing a great damage to their cause.Belive me you are only fuelling the fundamentalists in India by doing so.Thankfully the intelligent Indians in the five states that just went to poll saw through such nefarious designs, did not allow religious poalrisation and chose what is best for them.The Indian minorities especially your Muslim brethern, their leaders, intellengtia are quite capable, well equipped, constitutionally bestowed with all rights to protect their interests.They don't need any external assistance in their fight.Do our Pakistani friends like us talking about issues of Mohajirs, dominance of Punjabis, sectarian violence in Karachi, muslims killing muslims in NWFP in their country? Obiously not.So we too dont expect you to show any interest in minority issues in India.The moment you decided to breakaway from India and form a seperate country based on religion, at that very moment, you have ceased to have any right to talk about Indian Muslims. People of all walks irrespective of their cast, creed, religion are equal citizens of independent India.Ofcourse there are some shortcomings in their actual implementation, who does not have, America, UK, Pakistan?? Every country/society has some shortcomings, in their own magnitude, but Indians including their Muslims & minorities would like to sort out their problems themselves on their own and find their destiny their own way through a democratic process, inspite of its many current shortcomings.It is highly hypocratic of our Pakistani friends talking about human rights, fundamentalism, religious intolerance, equality.To conlcude, I just would like to ask a simple question to my intelligent Pakistani friends, how many times have you participated in a democratic process? How many times you have voted in an election? As for me, a 30 years old Indian minroity from a rural India, working for Multinational in an international city, thanks to the democracy and free India which provided me the opportunities, voted in more than 10 elections (Central, State, Local).Thats the answer for all your quesitons and concerns about minorities and muslims in India.

  • Posted By: enry_straker @ 12/08/2008 9:06:52 AM

    In a recent poll, it was found that 60% of Pakistanis believe that 9/11 is a inside-job ( CIA controlled ).

    And i see what looks like a lot of pakistanis here seem to feel that the bombay attacks were done by indians. Wow, you guys are something else. I guess it's easy, even for educated pakistanis, to fall prey to their media suggested conspiracy theories.

  • Posted By: enry_straker @ 12/08/2008 9:06:36 AM

    In a recent poll, it was found that 60% of Pakistanis believe that 9/11 is a inside-job ( CIA controlled ).

    And i see what looks like a lot of pakistanis here seem to feel that the bombay attacks were done by indians. Wow, you guys are something else. I guess it's easy, even for educated pakistanis, to fall prey to their media suggested conspiracy theories.

  • Posted By: vineetsharmapm @ 12/08/2008 8:40:47 AM

    i think Pakistani citizens are misinformed. India is Good country. Its earlier president was muslim. top actors are muslim. Some bad persons are everywhere.
    Real problem is the Pakistani Army, ISI and pakistani terrorist group as Let. India will destroy them soon whether we have to cross the pakistani border.

  • Posted By: LalaG @ 12/08/2008 7:31:30 AM

    One inability to secure its borders and blame others is a scapegot behaviour. This is just collateral damage from the atrocities and bloodshed in Kashmir.

  • Posted By: LalaG @ 12/08/2008 7:28:31 AM

    To blame others beacuse of their own security lapses is an easy acapegoat. I believe this is just collateral damage from the atrocities and bloodshed in Kashmir.

  • Posted By: ROMIT @ 12/08/2008 7:19:26 AM

    i really appreciate the understanding of author on south asian matters. As per me, wise solution lies in putting the international pressure on pakistan . India should first do its homework properly by collecting the evidences in a neat manner. Thereafter , by presenting the evidences to the world community, UNSC etc , international community should be persuaded to extract results from pakistan. seeing the internal conditions of pakistan, it should be wise to give some space to pakistani state so that it can act in some way. Giving violent threats to pakistan can arouse pakistani nationalism which can prove counter effective. some efforts should be made to teach pakistani people regarding the implications of such adventurism of pakistani establishment. This can go a long way in solving this complicated problem .
    There should be a balanced use of both cooperation and coercion , only then an effective solution can be reached.

  • Posted By: India1111 @ 12/07/2008 2:29:41 AM

    Pakistanis cannot see the economic progress India is making in the World. The Pakistanis open convinience stores in the West and pretend to be Indians!! their stores have Indian names! On the whole Pakistanis in general are a medieval, illterate people, that is why they supported primitive Taliban. India has the unfortunate bad luck of having these kind of people of ill repute living next to them. Their military controls the country. paki military has large landholdings, even factories! It makes it own budget! Remember It was Pakistani scientist who stole nuke desings from a European company he worked for. This man Khan then spread nuke technology to Iran and North korea. Pakistan got all its missile technoly from North korea! Pakistan should have bene declared a Terrorsist state long time ago.

    • Posted By: ATIQUE @ 12/07/2008 2:03:17 PM

      poor hindu banya's thinking. I dont know what make you feel that you are a regreessing economy. in fact, in our times, every economy in asia bound to grow if it has some techinacal experties along with production capacities. India and now I know Indians have never accepted the existing of PAKISTAN because indians are lacking self respect and respecting others while being ruled by muslims for centuries. look at your face, how bloody you people are. how you martyre the thousands of kashmiris, christians, and people from other parts of ur country. we have our indigenous missile and nuclear weapon system because of you coward and foolish people. we are proud of our scientists and dr. abdul qadeer who put us in a position that now you can only blame without any proof. now you can only make call and then step back because you are coward people. You , Indians, can only blame with baseless accusitions. your baloon will soon burst and you will find the truth about your own planned rubbish socalled 9/11 of india.

      • Posted By: karaswart @ 12/08/2008 7:06:00 AM

        The Pakistani Army, the biggest butcher of Muslims in recorded history ( 3 million Bengali Muslims butchered in 1971) must be defanged. Remember these glorious 14days (3rd December to 17th December 1971) when the Pakistani Army was routed and the genocide stopped.

      • Posted By: aditya_rawal @ 12/08/2008 4:23:27 AM

        Appreciate your guts.. U speak white lies with confidence...
        Sadly u have role models like A.Q Khan - International terrorist and thief..
        BTW, Observer has just confirmed that the cockroach (captured terrorist) is from Pakistan..

  • Posted By: ProudtobeIndian @ 12/07/2008 2:31:27 PM

    Comment: The identity of Mohmmed Ajmal Kasab is confirmed by American Newspaper journalists. He is from Pakistani faridkot which is near the town of Depalpur in the Okara district in Southern Pakistani Punjab. Everything the Pakistani terrorist told has been checked out correctly.
    It was also found by American Investigative journalists that plainclothes pakistani security officials apperared to have coached the occupants of pakistani faridkot to throw visitors off Ajmal trail.
    A villager told American mcClatchy: "these people are telling you lies. We know the boy(caught in mumbai/bombay) is from faridkot. We knew him from the first night of the attack.
    Shown a picture of the terrorist the pakistani villager from faridkot confirmed that it was the young man from the village. Ajmal parents Mohmmad Ameer 44 years old and his wife Noor 47 years old were now where to be found. According to several Pakistani villagers from faridkot , a bearded mullah likely from the terrorist group lashkar E Taibba took them away.
    Now that everything has been validated by independent newspapers that all terrorists were from came from pakistan. Pakistan has to be forced to do something to bring perpetarators to justice. Which is to hand them to India and US. Otherwise pakistan is in deep trouble. Its economy is in taters. It begged money from China and saudi arabia but they said NO. pakistan can only get so many months of imports on its dwindling foreign reserves. Its people will starve and there may be riots . So the World has leverage. Stop the loans from IMF and pakistanis will give up the terrorists. There is no way pakistanis can get away by lying and deceiving the whole World. I hope baluchistan becomes an Independent country and NWFP goes to afghanistan just like NY times map showed of future and not so distant pakistan.
    Remember Pkaistani Terrorist in mumbai attacks killed citizens of USA, Great Britain, australia, germany, japan, italy, Israel besides Indians. remember terrorist specifically asked for names of citiznes of USA< Britain and Israel. Pakistanis have regular terror rallies in which Pakistanis burn flags of USA, Israel and India. The world hopes that Pakistani occupied Baluchistan becomes an Independent country, NWFP goes to Afghanistan just like NY times future map of pakistan predicts. The world can then deal with Pakistan made up of pakistani Occupied kashmir, Pakistani occupied Punjab and pakistani occupied Sind.

    • Posted By: ichhi @ 12/07/2008 3:02:04 PM

      The writer has woven a fantastic story about Ajmal's village etc. Would appreciate if this is substantiated with references to the source. Also what about the identity of remaining 9 terrorists killed. they sure had faces and other means of identification. who knows if the statements by Ajmal are his own or simply released to media to support the allegation. Let's not jump to the conclusion before the investigation is concluded.gitating American and Britishers by repeating the killing of their citizens almost pushing the killing of over 100 Indian nationals, including 80 Muslims to the back.

      be killed

      • Posted By: karaswart @ 12/08/2008 7:05:26 AM

        The Pakistani Army, the biggest butcher of Muslims in recorded history ( 3 million Bengali Muslims butchered in 1971) must be defanged. Remember these glorious 14days (3rd December to 17th December 1971) when the Pakistani Army was routed and the genocide stopped.

  • Posted By: ProudtobeIndian @ 12/07/2008 2:47:02 PM

    Remember Pakistani terrorist in mumbai attacks specifically asked for citizens of USA, Israel, and Great Britain. These Pakistani terrorist killed innocent citizens of the world - USA, Great Britain, Australia, Germany, Japan, Italy, Israel besides innocent Indians. In on eof the hotels the Pakistani terrorist lined up people against a wall and murdered them. They mauy have been citizens of different countries. World is taking notice of the terror attacks committed by pakistani terrorists.

    • Posted By: malikrose3 @ 12/07/2008 4:17:50 PM

      Mr. proud do you know that the "Terrorist" who carried attackon passenger train traveling between New Dehli and lahore was an Indian army officer of Colonel rank. In view of this we can say that Indian army and Hindo extremists are the real "TERRORIST" in the reagion and every time there is an attack these terrorists are behind.

      • Posted By: karaswart @ 12/08/2008 7:04:55 AM

        The Pakistani Army, the biggest butcher of Muslims in recorded history ( 3 million Bengali Muslims butchered in 1971) must be defanged. Remember these glorious 14days (3rd December to 17th December 1971) when the Pakistani Army was routed and the genocide stopped.

  • Posted By: ksetlur @ 12/08/2008 7:03:10 AM

    I loved this statement: " Which would be worse: if the Pakistani military knew about this operation in advance, or if they didn't?". Well written article!

  • Posted By: sdawn73 @ 12/08/2008 6:57:10 AM

    Pakistan has to choose between international political/economic isolation on one hand and Civilised Society/progress on the other. It has to choose between fundamentalism/ruin and moderation/ progress. it is as simple as that. One wonders why is it so difficult to choose!!!

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 12/07/2008 3:26:21 PM

    the only end will come when kashmir issue is politically solved as directed under the US RESOLUTION ,letting the crushed muslim majority fighting against an opressive indian military regime decide in a free plebiscite -without that no amount of american or indian bombs or trooops bombs can sort anything as opressing the weak has never resulted in peace anywhere,
    as for fareed he is the name of the game called fraud ,
    he seems to be on both CIA and raw PAYROLLS,
    newsweek should have neutral and impassive analysts if it aspires to be an international journal otherwise it seems to be drowning in a stream of anti paki oriented abuse and muslim hatred of immense proportions ,

    pakistan is much more stable compared to the state driven anarchy of INDIA AND ITS absolute disregard of human rights regarding minorities and untouchables treated worst then animals in a socalled democracy .

    • Posted By: karaswart @ 12/08/2008 6:55:02 AM

      The Pakistani Army, the biggest butcher of Muslims in recorded history ( 3 million Bengali Muslims butchered in 1971) must be defanged. Remember these glorious 14days (3rd December to 17th December 1971) when the Pakistani Army was routed and the genocide stopped.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/07/2008 3:46:06 PM

      Where do we export jobs, to india or Pakistan? So, who is more stable?

  • Posted By: malikrose3 @ 12/07/2008 4:05:43 PM

    Its not surprising for me that Mr. Zakria is coming with a story that is not only baseless but also has no firm proof or evidence. Indians started blaming Pakistan right the very first moment of the attack. Whereas the facts are otherwise. Indian goverenment and intelligence agencies have acknowledged lapes and desparateries in thier stories and afterall they are now blaming Bangladesh.

    It doesn't surprises me that Mr. Zakria is workign in a position that no true Muslim will be offered. Western media always looks for individuals who have distorted and twisted immage of Islam nad have the capacity to spread their Biased and twisted ideas to the worldso that by picking these so called Muslims Media can say "Itsn't biased towards Islam or Muslims.
    Farid Zakria is a true example of the category just mentioned and that tries to get big financial benefits. Mr. Zakria, problem of Muslim world is not having a true leadreship, but the "BUSH" 's so called war on terror which in fact is war on Muslim world and Islamic Idealogy has Muslims woken around the world and they are now clearly seeing how western Media and powere brokers have twisted the facts, befooled the world and launched war against Muslim world. Truth can never be denied or hidden for long. Truth has the tendency to speak by itself, like a large number of Americans now believe that 9/11 was planned and carried out by CIA and others agencies and here is Mr. Zakria tryign to suggest that Indians should have responded like America against Pakistan.
    Farid Zakria shouldn't forget that every minute somewhere in India a minority member is either being rabed, killed and his property burned. Attrocities against Muslim minority in India are not new but recently Hindo extremists have widened and intensified attacks on Christians and Jews. If we campare Indian crimes against Nazi Crimes there isn't much difference.
    Furthermore before India or it's sympathizer like Farid Zakria blames anyone for bambi attacks they should keep in mind that in most of Indian states there are movements for separation from India and in many states there is violent struggle too.
    Malik

    • Posted By: karaswart @ 12/08/2008 6:54:16 AM

      The Pakistani Army, the biggest butcher of Muslims in recorded history ( 3 million Bengali Muslims butchered in 1971) must be defanged. Remember these glorious 14days (3rd December to 17th December 1971) when the Pakistani Army was routed and the genocide stopped.

    • Posted By: masamuni @ 12/07/2008 5:18:56 PM

      Indians started blaming Pakistan because they caught Mohmmaed Ajmal Kasab only a few hour safter the attack began after they killed his fellow terrorist and after third degree Mohmmaed Ajmal Kasab started to talk like a parrot. Giving information that implicates Lashkar E Taiabba, the Pakistani terror group whose chief travels in a luxury while recuriting thugs like Mohmmaed ajmal Kasab. 5 foot tall but well fed , Mohmmaed Ajmal Kasab is from faridkot, near Depalpur in Pakistani Southern punjab.
      Obviously a Paklstani like you will lie and lie and try to decive the World but it is not working.
      Remember Pakistani terrorist murdered citzines from all over the World - USA, Britain, Australia, Israel, Germany, Italy, China , japan. The Whole World knows pakistan is the terror making factory of the World. pakistan will pay a price if it does not hand over the terrorist demanded by india. After begging from saudi arabia and China for money to feed its population it could only get funds from IMF. US has leverage over IMF and if Pakistan refuses to play ball, pakistanis will not have enough food to live on. It will fall apart. There are other ways India should explore so that pakistan never dares to attack India ever again. World is watching.

  • Posted By: truepicture @ 12/07/2008 6:48:42 PM

    I am not sure which 'arabs' u have been talking to but i can give u a first hand account that as facts go nearly 60% of the workforce in the middle east are indians...and they include labour,construction workers...topmost followed by servants,clerks...etc.infact they are so many of you here that the government actually decided to lay off visa issuance to indian labourers this very year!As the famous saying goes here...every stone u unturn in the middle east u find an indian beneth it!The beauty of Islam ,,as you clearly r not aware of is that it rejects all forms of caste and creed...the main reason the arab invaders were able to convert most of hindu south asia in to muslims...plz refer to your history books again.Many muslims living in southasia can also actually trace back their genelogy to arabs and the turks...again get some history lessons!
    Pakistan doesn't need to fight for kashmir...the ppl of kashimir are doing a pretty good job of it themselves for the past 61 years...all we need to do is to remind u that kashmir is offically as per the UNO charter a disputed region...whose ultiimate fate lies in the hands of the kashmiris themselves...duely signed and accepted by the governments of Pakistan and india in 1947.and incase u are not aware who did from ur side..then i'll remind u...ur president then...jawarharlal nehru...the father of your independent nation!It is not a 'piece' of land that is in anyway synomymus with syria or israel!you only have to look up the kashmiri sacrifices in thousands over the years to realise its a reality!whether kashmir decided to side with Pakistan or be independent is their birthright choice..as per the UNO resolution...sumthing that neither Pakistan nor india should have a say in.what is clear is that it doesnot and has never before accepted indian rule.and about your arab friend...double check ...if he disowns the palestinian right then i'm with you unconditional!Till then please lay off the silly propaganda.

    • Posted By: karaswart @ 12/08/2008 6:53:29 AM

      The Pakistani Army, the biggest butcher of Muslims in recorded history ( 3 million Bengali Muslims butchered in 1971) must be defanged. Remember these glorious 14days (3rd December to 17th December 1971) when the Pakistani Army was routed and the genocide stopped.

  • Posted By: karaswart @ 12/08/2008 6:51:09 AM

    The Pakistani Army, the biggest butcher of Muslims in recorded history ( 3 million Bengali Muslims butchered in 1971) must be defanged. Remember these glorious 14days (3rd December to 17th December 1971) when the Pakistani Army was routed and the genocide stopped.

  • Posted By: will123 @ 12/08/2008 5:33:28 AM

    "All nightmares of 21st century come together in Pakistan" Very true.. No doubt Pakistan is a screwed-up nation. It's military and intelligence agency are two major terrorist organizations, yet to be enlisted on US terror list. Now China must be regretting to have sold nuclear technology so cheaply to these idiots who will never learn humanity and civility.

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