Europe’s Jewish Problem

"wake up jesus was a jew looked what he did for society"

In his lifetime he was hated by Jews, and it was a Jewish court (Sanhedrin) which gave him his sentence of execution.

What's your point?

Ameriki1 - Your hatred is however disgusting and blind, and your "Holocaust" references make it no less so.

Ameriki1 - the so-called "Holocaust" did not happen.

In spite of your deep hatred of the Europeans, it was France which (scandalously) gave Israel its nuclear techonlogy.

Your hateful attitude does not speak much of Jewish tolerance.

Both the Jews and Palestinians are semites aka arabs and they are both problems. from talking to Brits they hate the moslems just as much if not more.

Also the most meaningful words loose their meaning when used improper or beyond measure. This is why Denis MacShane???s article ???Europe???s Jewish Problem??? (Dec. 15) contributes to the erosion of the word ???anti-Semitism???. The author fails to recognize the true reasons of anti-Jewish feelings in Europe. Those reasons have nothing to do with anti-Semitism. To the contrary: It is the same lesson that Europe has learned from its anti-Semitic past, which now demands that we condemn the state of Israel and the Jewish lobbies in other countries. Seeing the damage and loss of lives caused by Israeli bombings of Gaza or Lebanon, comparing them to the 100 times smaller damage caused by the primitive weapons of Hamas or Hezbollah, we Europeans cannot remain silent. It is too much for our stomachs to take! Our sympathy for the Palestinian struggle for freedom comes, in fact, from the same part of our hearts as the shame that we did so little to support the Jewish uprising of 1943 in the Warsaw Ghetto. That event was in many respects comparable to what we now see happening in Gaza.
I was born in Warsaw. In his book ???The Bravest Battle???, Dan Kurzman quotes the following words of Mordechai Anielewicz, the Jewish uprising leader: ???We will give our death a historic meaning and full significance for future generations???. Today I see much of the same spirit in the desperate struggle of Palestinian fighters. I also see the impotence of European governments ??? cautious not to harm their relations with the US ??? to take the right stand. I see the hypocrisy of the whole Western world in refusing to recognize the Hamas government ??? the first and so far the only Arab government that has emerged in ???our???, democratic way. If my shame for that all and my sympathy for the Palestinian struggle has to be called anti-Semitism today, then yes Mr. MacShane ??? I am an anti-Semit.

Richard A. Daniel
Gouda, The Netherlands

"followers of the Child Toucher" - this is obviously a reference to the prophet Mohammed's marriage to an 9-year old girl (recently the subject of a controversial book). Regarding the BNP - a lot has changed in the 12 years since Mr Griffin penned his article about Jews. The make-up of the BNP is very different now in that most of its members have joined over the last 8 or 9 years and are mostly refugees from the ruling parties (particularly the Tories). It is a different kettle of fish to the old National Front and Mr Griffin has changed his views from 12 years ago (surely even Mr McShane must be able to acknowledge that people's opinions can change over time). The main problem for Jews now is the rapid increase in the number of muslims in Europe who see Jews as a Religious and political enemy. They regard Christians in the same way but there are still too many of us here to oppress. If you want to see what happens when active muslim believers take over the running of a country then look at the treatment of Christians in Iraq. Free to be Christian under the non-religious dictatorship of Sadaam Hussein but now 80% of them have been driven out of Iraq by the actively muslim rulers. A sign of the future that will probably be ignored by our leaders. Check out the treatment of Christians in Pakistan and southern Sudan as well.

I'm curious about the phrase "followers of the Child Toucher" Surely you MUST talking about Catholics. Aren't they are trying to make child touching a sacrament?

As long as many of the Jews of this world insist on conflating the ruthless, barbaric state of Israel with their ancient honorable faith, they will have a difficult public relations problem to deal with.

The posts below or above are complete examples of ignorance and jealousy...until europeans realize that the real enemy are the followers of the child toucher (islamic extremists) they will be doomed .....europeans are know for being a bunch of wimps and which is why its easy to blame peacefull jews when the real enemy are the animals that blow themselves up...there is evidence and witnesses to the holocaust and its disgusting when people deny it as most of my family was killed by hairy armpitted germans...wake up jesus was a jew looked what he did for society......you guys are jealous and denying factuall history....shame on you and i hope it doesnt take islamic calphate to wake your minds up!!!!!!!!!

i cant wait till the followers of the child toucher take over europe and you will all be wishing the jews could help your ignorant minds out...the comments below are such a laugh that its unbelievable that they dont see that jealousy is the key to the hatred...jews just pride themselves on education and do only good for society...to deny the holocaust just shows ignorance as their were witnesses including the nazis themselves who backed it up.....remember jesus was a jew so all of you just show that ignorance is what drives anti semitism....jews have no reason to destroy the economy....gentiles stop drinking so much and take responsiblities for your own retardation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i cant wait till the followers of the child toucher take over europe and you will all be wishing the jews could help your ignorant minds out...the comments below are such a laugh that its unbelievable that they dont see that jealousy is the key to the hatred...jews just pride themselves on education and do only good for society...to deny the holocaust just shows ignorance as their were witnesses including the nazis themselves who backed it up.....remember jesus was a jew so all of you just show that ignorance is what drives anti semitism....jews have no reason to destroy the economy....gentiles stop drinking so much and take responsiblities for your own retardation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The simplest reason for rejecting the Holocaust story in general is that the vast majority of European Jews were still alive at the end of World War 2. Professor ARTHUR BUTZ, the author of The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, made this claim nearly thirty years ago???and he was absolutely correct as the following quote from a credible, recent Jewish source shows.

The Jewish Week 11-28-2003
Two new studies to determine the location of Jewish Holocaust survivors, for use in making future allocations to the most needy, differ widely on the number of survivors worldwide, The Jewish Week has learned. Sergio DellaPergola, a demographer for the Institute of Contemporary Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, found 1,092,000 survivors worldwide. Jacob Ukeles, a policy researcher in Manhattan, found 688,000. The Ukeles survey, an update of one he prepared in 2000 for the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, found only minor differences from his previous effort. Lawrence Eagleburger, chairman of the International Commission on Holocaust Era Insurance Claims, commissioned both surveys. Eagleburger had hoped to use the figures in determining how to distribute $13.2 million annually in humanitarian funds for needy survivors worldwide.

SERGIO DELLAPERGOLA's amazing discovery of 1,092,000 Jewish holocaust survivors alive in 2003 is thoroughly discussed in his 2003 report. Clearly, the numbers of ???Jewish holocaust survivors??? alive more than fifty-five years after the war are so enormous that one should wonder if any Jews at all perished during World War 2. Any conservative and reasonable statistical analysis of population decline over the post-war years would surely conclude that there were more than five million Jewish ???holocaust survivors??? alive at the end of the war. No doubt, some innocent Jews were killed???but, there is no good reason to believe Jewish deaths were statistically unusual for a long, horrific war in which many tens of millions of innocent civilians were killed of all nationalities. On the basis of numbers alone???the generally accepted story is a monumental hoax. The continued worldwide acceptance of that hoax, even in Germany, is a tribute to the enormous power and influence of the supposed victms and the Jewish community in general. The uniqueness of the mass gassing claims has also appealed to the darker sides of human imagination and gullibility.

Mwahaha!! Gripe all you want McShameless, But the world wide anti-usury movement will not be stopped, nor will it be limited to the Jews. All who live on the blood of working men, women, and even children the world over will be brought to justice eventually, whether it's considered PC or not.

Being a christian (Filipino), my sympathy is always with the Jews because without them this world may not have hope. Through Christ Jesus, who is a Jew, salvation came to mankind. In fact, as Christ Jesus said, we the Gentiles became partakers of the promises of God because of the failure of the Jews to recognize him as the promised Messiah. Thus, the human inhabitants of this earth really owe a lot to the Jews, plain and simple.

The Jews should not be disheartened by those figures because fifty percent of the world hate the lame duck Bush. Hundred percent of the people in the world hate terrorists. Most of the people hate war and agression. The whole population of Iraq and Afghanistan hate being invaded. The whole of Palestine hate Israel.What significance is six or twenty-five percent of people who are anti-semitic? The Muslims hate Zionism but not the Jews. Note that throughout history there are also Muslim Jews! Christians hate Jews because they are not Christians and the Jews are the chosen people envied by Christians. Christians do not hate Muslims as much because they are able to invade and control the Muslims. Muslims do not hate the Christians as much because they are pre-occupied with hating Israel and Bush.

Come on, why should we talk about hatred? Why not live in peace and harmony?

What we see is that most are only concerned about themselves and have scant regard for others.
The Palestinians are also a people , then why not a sovereign independent Palestine nation ?
The Tamils of Lanka are also a people , then why not a sovereign independent Eelam nation ?
The Kurds are also a people , then why not a sovereign independent KURDISTAN nation?
The Scots are also a people , then why not a sovereign independent SCOTLAND ?
All these afore mentioned peoples have been brutalised , marginalised and unjustly deprived of their rightful place in the world community of nations.
This is an undeniable fact. Many in the world abuse these Peoples including their supporters .Calling names/branding ,etc.
But one day they will be free !!!

I would caution against printing unchallenged the particular version of reality likely to be provided by a mainstream politician in this country, where such individuals are increasingly viewed with distruct & contempt. Especially a Labour one, whose commitment to the "truth" closely resembles that of their Old Comrades behind the now defunct Iron Curtain.

What "lies at the heart" of British National Party ideology is its unique commitment to traditional British values : marriage & the family, Christianity, personal freedom and law & order, the preservation of our racial & cultural identity and political independence as a country; and the re-establishment of our once great industries, efficient Health Service and admired education system, as well as our tragically undermined Police & Armed Forces.
It is these which the Labour Party has set out systematically (and with great success) to destroy, in terms of its hate-filled, marxist-liberal philosophy known in Britain by the name "political correctness". It is these which the other major parties, Conservative and Liberal Democrat, have also entirely failed to protect.

There are probably individuals in all political parties who, for different reasons and to different degrees, have opposed Jewish and specifically Israeli influence in The US and Europe; not least the Labour Party, whose strong marxist wing is bitterly opposed to both in terms of its hostility to capitalism, and its sympathy for Palestinian and other terrorism.
In the case of the BNP, the small number of individuals who have ever had such antipathy have matured, and realised that the extensive contribution made to Western Civilisation by Jews, and the strong attachment most have to tradition and genuinely 'conservative' values makes them a natural ally for European nationalists; to say nothing of the fact that we face a common enemy in terms of a tidal wave of Third World immigrants, and an increasingly aggressive Islam.

Although your report confirms that Britain has by far the lowest level of anti-semitism in Europe, it omits to point out that even the relatively small number of such incidents (including swastika-daubing) is often carried out by Muslims rather than native Britons; and that the British National Party, which it admits is "the fastest growing political party in Britain" plays an influential part in distancing Nationalism from anti-semitism.

the days of inquisition and torquemada should never be forgotten ,spain under isabella and ferdinand killed ,burnt and displaced over 12 million muslims and jews in just a decade .
ignonimous and intolerably intolerant .
best way to prepare is to remember history