Blowing Smoke

Clean coal technology? It doesn't exist and YOU KNOW IT. Lies and more lies from the right wing nut cases who just wish they knew something instead of studying the subject and actually being able to post intelligently. Our nuke plants are disasters right now, cost more than any other kind of technology in use, and will never be cleaned up because radiation can't be cleaned out of natually radioactive materials. Not one poster here has any knowledge of the subject at hand. Shame on you guys!

Scrubbers collect the sulfur dioxide, not the fly ash. The fly ash is collected by electrostatic precipitators. One year of coal solid waste from our power plants is more in weight and volume than ALL the municipal waste in all of America in one year. Burning coal puts more radon in the air than any other thing and causes thousands of cases of cancer. Nuclear power is the dirtiest of all power sources because the waste is fatal to humans, will last longer than mankind has been alive and can not be de-toxified. And, friend, the half-life of radioactive material is never reduced by processing. It can't be done. What can be done is to build breeder reactors which concentrate the waste into plutonium and is the only current nuclear system that makes any sense at all.

If you want to see a perfect example of 'unintended consequences, the 'No Nuke Power!' groups of the 70s and early 80s are a perfect example. In their blindness and ignorance, they couldn't see the difference between nuclear power and nuclear weapons, because it was the exact same crowd protesting...

So now instead of nuclear plants providing 60% of the electrical power in the US, like it does in places like France, we are 30 years behind on the construction of new power plants and nuke power is being looked at again as a way to stop our reliance on foreign oil.

So now pretty much the exact same crowd (or at least the crowd with the same sort of mindset) wants to hit up the coal industry and put them even further behind on clean coal technology... Fantastic... Let's listen to these people again since they've done such a GREAT job for us throughout the years...

new coal fired plants are biult with a device called a scrubber or atomizer that collects the carbon particles and other pollutants to mantain and exceed epa standards. nuclear power is also a good energy source. radioactive material can now be recycled for use in a different type of energy producing reactor. after producing energy for another 20 years the remaining half life is on 20 or so years. not 60,000 yrs

I will only take the environmental movement serious when they lead by example....turn off all air conditioning at their facilities, drive only electric cars, do no fly in airplanes, walk to work, do not use hospitals utilizing the latest in technology including those requining radiation and eletrical systems. Until then, they have no credibility. Nuclear power is the cleanest type of energy produced.....windmills will have unintended consequenses and be as unsightly ot the natural environmnet as oil rigs.......windmills kill birds (what about the eagles and owl)......solar power requires the use of polymers and plastics to be produced (petroleum products are required for this). This same bunch of yahoos were teaching me in undergrad, that we would be completely out of fossile fuels by 2010 (bogus claim)....they also claimed the ozone layer would be destroyed by 2010 (bogus claim)....they also claimed that there was a coming ice age (bogus claim).......WHY SHOULD THIS COUNTRY AND THE WORLD BELIEVE THESE GUYS NOW??????? WHO HAVE COME UP WITH A FRESH BATCH OF BOGUS CLAIMS.........Environmentalist want to go back to the stone age......lets's see them set the example......whey won't they just want to force it on the rest of us.

What about the idea of a "carbon scrubber?" Such a product is currently being developed by Global Research Technologies and Klaus Lackner from Columbia University. It captures carbon dioxide through a membrane and converts it into a carbonate. If you do a comparative analysis of this product with a windmill, this creates much higher savings in carbon/dollar. This way you can continue using the "all of the above approach" to energy independence and not worry about execerbating the global warming issue---assuming it's not actually caused/affected by solar output cycles.

ISPRA has been around for 25 years. EPRI continues to try to kill it. ISPRA turns the emissions into merchant quantities of commodities including sulfuric acid and hydrogen. It is a bromine catalyzing process; very simple.

Political and corporate morons stop it at every turn.

However, the mining itself is environmentally bad but the mining companies are doing a better job of fixing the sites when the coal is gone.

Any questions? Email me at bfranklin@uhvengineering.com

ISPRA has been around for 25 years. EPRI continues to try to kill it. ISPRA turns the emissions into merchant quantities of commodities including sulfuric acid and hydrogen. It is a bromine catalyzing process; very simple.

Political and corporate morons stop it at every turn.

However, the mining itself is environmentally bad but the mining companies are doing a better job of fixing the sites when the coal is gone.

Any questions? Email me at bfranklin@uhvengineering.com

Sludge ponds, water from the cleaning of coal, chemical ladden and toxic loosed into the streams of Ky. and WVa. The coal slurry pond that broke in Martin County Ky. entered the streams of Kentucky as the largest failure in coal mining history. It was a larger spill than the Exxon Valdez but it was in the Appalachian Mountains and nobody cares. This type of pond is common and they fail often. They are even allowed not to dump coal chemical waste water into rivers and streams. Consol dumps chemical treated waste water into the river that flows from Virginia into Ky. IIts legal now and they say trust us the water is safe.

Another, much better alternative to nuclear and the clean coal are fuel cells. They exist, are manufactured in this country and are being sold to Germany and other European countries. Right now they are designed for manufacturing plants, hospitals, schools, government buildings, universities and other large facilities that generate their own power. They can use any fuel to produce electricity. They run on gases given off by waste water treatment plants, food processing plants, and landfills. They also run on coal gas and propane. Check it out at www.fuelcellenergy.com/. I foresee a day when we won???t have any commercial power plants and power lines will be a thing of the past. Each home and business will have its own generator and our coal will be going to gasification plants.

The technology is out their to reduce the emission from coal burning at power plants, it's just that the technology is to expensive and the power companies do not want to spend the money to get it installed instead they would rather pay the government fine for polluting the environment.

Is this guy serious? You actually believe there are "leftists who hate America, and wsh it ill"? If clean coal technology won't be achieved until 2030 why would we waste the money on implementing it? By then we could have wind farms built that would make the toxic burning of coal unnecessary. And this idea that nuclear power is a smart way to go about powering our nation...UNBELIEVABLE....thank god John McCain wasn't elected. 46 new power plants? That is what he wanted to do. He called for it in is energy plan. We don't know what to do with the spent fuel that we have now. Our government is talking about burying it in a mountain like we do our garbage. Only we won't be able to build a golf course over that hill. Well, I take that back, in 60,000 years we will.

If clean coal existed we would see it all over this country. The trumpeter would be leading the way for all to see.
But as you now see all they do is try to see you the emporers new clothes. Pay to advertise but don't invest in the needed technology to make those clean coal dreams a reality. I would love to drive a 100 mpg car to but right now but I couldn't buy one if I wanted to.

Fifty percent of the US electricity comes from coal. Which 3 1/2 days of the week would you like to have your lights, refrigerator, & HVAC turned on?

If the coal industry has this technology let them show us all. I want it to work but at this point in time it just isn't there.
If it was I am sure they would have it out for all to see........Is that not true???? Like a 100mpg car at this time you can't
find one you can't drive one.

Ask people who live in Kentucky and Virginia about the history of clean coal. They will tell you a different story about mountains that no longer exist because they were destroyed to get to coal deposits. And before that is was local people who lost their lives working in mines. Clean coal is a marketing myth. It's another dirty form of energy unlike wind or solar.

Golbal warming is a religion, relying on faith, not facts. Data showsdefinite cooling trends since 1998, in line with decreased sun activity. We need to take advantage of all available sources of energuy, and plentiful coal, in combination with nuclear and wind and other power sources, should continue to provide our electricity, albeit while we work toward decreasing emissions from burning coal & oil. Demonizing coal, which today provides over 50% of our continental US electricity needs is a leftist strategy, pursued by leftists who hate America, and wish it ill.

I think Newsweek is pushing one of their little leftist hobbies, the religion of global warming. Because it is a religion, it must be accepted on faith, or one gets excommunicated and sent into the wilderness. Never mind that we have been expeienciong global cooling since 1998, and this is measured data. No, reason will have to oblige the "left...

Who is Mr. Hardwick other than an activitist to come up with his facts? Coal fired plant have never claimed have underground storage, but that it was a project untested and laid out as a theory. I think it neat when people stand in front of cooling tower of power plants and exclaim how power plants are pollluting beyond all federal limits. Mt. St. Helen's polluted most of the plains and central US, but the Sierra club claims coal plants caused new asthema cases in the early 90's. The need for clean burning power sources is necessary for our future. Bad proporganda by environmental groups is super dumb.