Gay Rights 2.0

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Why are gays/lesbians discrimated against? Because it is naturally scientifically and biology not normal. Yes, there may be a few cases of true homosexuality where "wires" are wired wrong but I feel that this is very rare. It astounds me the amount of people in this world that claim they are "wired" wrong. There are entirely too many people who claim to be homosexual for it to acceptable. How can this many people be "wired" wrong biologically?

As far as children and the youth being affected wrong being taught that this is normal and growing up in this kind of family is correct. It doesn't matter how great the parents are. Teaching tolerance is one thing. Teaching this life style is normal is wrong. I have a high school daughter who tells me non-stop about how many classmates are gay or bi. How can middle/high schoolers know this when they are confused enough by normal puberity issues? It's too much to dump on these kids! They don't know which way they're coming or going. Not to mention, the spread of diseases by these kids experimenting and trying to figure out puberity, gay, lesbian issues.

As far as marriage rights and all that that entials regarding insurance and privacy issues.......there are these things
nowadays called wills, living wills, power of attorney for medical, financial, etc. Get a job for your own insurance or buy it privatly and as far as the other issues, get your legal paperwork done. I have legal paperwork done naming this person or that as this or that and I am not a lesbian.

If gay/lesbian is the life style you choose, fine. It doesn't need to be the issue they are making it. Do your thing and for God's sake, you don't need to run around (males) skipping around advertising it with camel toe fronts and rear ends, talking and acting like silly girls. Why do those gays have to act like that? It's disgusting! I do understand that all don't do that but for the ones that do.....that's why you get beat up.

The point is this: homosexuality is not only natural; it is conserved across many species. It is therefore not "unnatural" or "detrimental".

No number of snarky comments will change that.

Incidentally, we kill all the time. Ever eat a burger? We killed that cow for food. Ever saluted the flag? Our soldiers wear that on their sleeve as they kill others.

Sure, primates commit murder. But their communities also punish the murderer; so that is just like us, isn't it?

I recently read that gays want a " stay home from work day " to show just how important they are in America.

Perverted People acting perverted in our weak economy ----- Great !

What next ? Pedophile Day.

Gay stuff is wrong, its that simple; however, there seems to be a lot of gay activity in the animal kingdom .

typical of the intollerant left, Start calling people names, stick with the issue. you lost!

So roger, if I feel anything is natural I have the right to do it according to your logic. So since pot is a naturally occuring drug I can smoke it and go drive and there should be no penalties? I only ask because this is what you are saying if it is natural than as Americans we have the right to do so.

So unfortuantly for you there are alot more of us than there are of you. How in the state of ca. could this lose? It also lost in az, and in another state.

I honestly do not get the argument in this at all. When you bring ANY religion into an argument about laws, you lose. Religion should not be considered when making laws that govern a nation of many faiths, and sometimes no faith at all. It's ridiculous. To those that saw homosexuality is unnatural--look to other species. Look to history. It's been going on since the beginning of time. To those that say homosexuals offend their spirituality--so? Maybe being Christian offends atheists, Jews, Buddhists, Wiccans, etc. Does that give them any right to not allow you to worship? Of course not. The Bible has been evoked to support things from not eating seafood to supporting or decrying slavery and trying to shoot down women's rights. The Bible should have NO bearing on laws that affect every American. Besides that, I get sick of hearing the holier than thou comments. Ok, hope you've never had sex before marriage. Hope you've never gotten a divorce. Hope you've never lied or been jealous of someone. You're a sinner! You're going to hell!

As one of Larry Kramer's peers formerly from the LA community, I can agree wholeheartedly with him that sitting at a computer and sending e-mails won't be enough. Larry started ACT-UP, Signorile came at least a decade later. To refer to Mike Signorile as a "veteran activist" is absurd. He's just a hack journalist who was in the right place at the right time. He did nothing more important than the thousands of grounds troops did into the nineties, then gave up when anti-viral made the disease leave the public eye. Never mind that thousands were still dying. Larry never forgot that, and left ACT-UP in disgust, as did I and many others.
The future is with JoinTheImpact.com, LoveMakesAFamily, and other grassroots and netroots organizations that are not bogged down by their own internal politics, like the HRC is now. It's unfortunate, because there are so many truly good people at HRC, like Joe Solomonese. If they would just dispense with the notion that they "shouldn't do" any one thing, and just get their hands dirty, maybe things would happen.

I was there when AIDS wasn't even called that. It was called GRID for Gay Related Immune Disease, and LA was so freaked about it the bodies were stacked up in the morgue because the funeral homes refused to handle them. Some ambulance drivers wouldn't pick up a gay man. I worked at USC Medical E/R in the 70's and 80's, and was one of only a few docs who would treat a gay person. And no one knew I was gay. But they sure as hell do now. And have for the last 38 years. And the last 147 funerals. AIDS is still killing people, its just taking a bit longer to do it now. Don't forget it.

"Get the facts correct. The Morman church provided Zero dollars. The Legal case will show that. Its members as private citizens donated on their own terms not through the church."

One thing that I'm sure we can all agree on: Newsweek has the worst comment software on the web!

CanIPayYourBills said:
"You didn't both to mention how the protestors have urinated on church buildings and people"


I'm not even sure to whom you are responding, but assuming that you mean "Prop 8 protestors" (and therefore "gays and gay supporters") let me respond by saying: the American Founding Fathers and the Black Panthers.

Once a group of people get tired of being persecuted, they usually start behaving badly.

Be glad they are urinating, and neither disrupting commerce nor creating armed militias, and get the message before they do!

The article said "And as the reality sunk in that four anti-gay state measures had passed on election day"
Apparently reality has not sunk in, Gays now try to equate being gay with racial discrimination. It is not; homosexuality is dysfunctional behavior much more similar to other frowned upon dysfunctional behavior such as kleptomania or pedophilia.

It is an embarrassment for America this issue is even being discussed in the public eye as something America would consider socially acceptable behavior.

I believe that people have the right to do as they please as long as they are not hurting anyone else. I don't think there is anything wrong with gays being allowed to have some sort of civil union.

Lately gays try to align themselves with the civil rights movement to further their agenda of gay marriage. That's not right. There is a huge difference between the African-American civil rights movement and gay marriage. The level of persecution and discrimination was much greater for African-Americans than what gays have had to endure. African-Americans could not hide in the closet to avoid discrimination and persecution. I think trying to align themselves with the civil rights movement causes people to oppose gay marriage.

There is another issue that I think influences people to oppose gay marriage. Life on this planet was built through the evolution of species as they adapted to their environment. Evolution requires procreation. In that vein gay marriage is a genetic dead end. I realize that nowadays we have IVF, adoption, and many other ways a gay couple can have children. I think that both concisely and sub concisely people are influenced against gay marriage by the fact that gay couples cannot naturally reproduce.

One of the arguments you hear is that it is not fair that so and so gay couple has been together 30 years and one partner is denied the others benefits such as social security or medical insurance. I agree that if two people have been together that long they should be able to ???collect???. However, that makes it look like gay marriage is all about the money. That???s not going to get the gays a lot of sympathy.

This whole argument show just how spoiled we are in this country. When I open up MSNBC.com and see how the children of Zimbabwe can???t get access to clean drinking water I think we have much more important issues to deal with than gay marriage.

Gay is most definitely NOT the "new black". The last time I checked, it was not an abomination in the eyes of God to be black.