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Zardari: 'I Am a Victim Here'

Pakistan's president speaks out on Mumbai, terrorism and the ISI.

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  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/30/2008 11:23:38 AM

    In the end there is no point in India and pakistan bickering and fighting constantly as we all are wasting our energies leading us to no where. It is in interest of both countries to stop wasting their time and energies fighting with each other and encourage cooperation, friendship , creating jobs, trade to make lives of our peoples better. Life is too short to waste in such kind of perpetual hatred.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/30/2008 11:16:56 AM

    ferozj makes sense. boforce is LOL. Religion is a personal matter like in America and other Western countries. I think in Pakistan it is religion which has enetered politics that has made the mess Pakistan is in right now. Hindoo activism in India - one can call it in many ways but mostly it is reactionary and their are some bad elemnts like narendra modi and few others that are using religion to gain political advantage. To a fair minded person what happened in gujarat was wrong. Wrong in what first muslims started and then hindoos did.
    But what happened in mumbai was completely wrong. When India has given evidence to Pakistan it is also in Pakistan's interets to close down those terror camps and also to hand over the terrorists brains behind mumbai terror attacks. Also Lashkar Janghvi is behind marriot bombings and also behind recent car terror attacks in lahore. Pakistani civilian government should be supported so it has full control over its military and isi. This religion based hatred should stop permanently.

  • Posted By: ferozej @ 12/30/2008 1:28:37 AM

    Shah Rukh finally you have seen how we are selves are suffering from the extremism brought about by years of conflict imposed upon both countries and the region by others be it the US, Soviets who ever. This scourge can only be tackled collectively and without prejudice and with keeping in mind whats best for both India and Pakistan. Collectively India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh can be an economic power house with 30 percent of the worlds population and talent in the region.

    We must begin with enhancing people to people contact which will automatically translate into economic and cultural comity between the people who essentially all come from the same background.

    Religion should be set aside as that is a personal issue between man and god.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/29/2008 2:40:25 PM

    ferozz is son of a thousand fathers. A paki hindo convert whose mom was gangbanged by slave turko-mongol bigoted racist rulers like aurangezeb. Aurangezeb died a dogs death and his shitty so called empire fiolded like a pack of cards soon after., Sikhs took kandhar and jats descerated the graves of Akbar pillaging it. Jats, marathas and sikhs pillaged Delhi. The turko-mongol rulers then became dependent of Marathas. The forcibly converted hindoos like feroz and bforce dream about the days their moms were banged by barbaric foreign invaders. They are shameful. Probably suffering from trauma and unable to deal with it now thinking they are the turko-mongols!!!!
    Try as hard as you may but the REAL MUSLIMS THE ARABS will always think that you are INFERIOR CONVERTS BY FORCE!!!! GOOD ONLY AS SLAVES TO ARABS!!!
    I have talked to many many arabs and all of them think that Pakis are forced converts and therefore inferior.
    All pathetic efforts by pakis to divert attention from crimes by their paki terrorists brethren who murdered unarmed defenseless civilians from the following countries.
    America
    Britian
    Canada
    Germany
    Japan
    China
    Australia
    France
    Italy
    Israel
    INDIAN MUSLIMS
    ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT PAKIS SEND TERRORISTS AND MURDERERS TO KILL OUR PEOPLE AND OUR GUESTS.
    NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO DIVERT ATTENTION AND INSTEAD OF HANDING OUT THE 40 TERRORISTS TRAINED BY THEIR CRIMINAL INETELLIGENCE THAT CREATED MEDIEVAL TALIBAN TERRORISTS, PAKIS ARE DIVERTING THEIR CRAPPY SKINNY SO CALLED SOLDIER STO INDIAN BORDER.
    PAKI CRIMES MUST NOT GO UNPUNISHED.
    Only permannet solution is to iINVADE PAKI NAPAK LAND.
    REMEMBER THE HEADQUARTER SOF AL -QAEDA, TALIBAN, LASHKAR E TAIBA, ISI, JAISH MOHMMED ARE IN NAPAK PAKI LAND.
    ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK. PAKI NAPAK LAND THE HEADQUARTERS OF TERRORISTS.

    • Posted By: BOFORCE @ 12/30/2008 1:09:50 AM

      l India is responsible for the killing of all those foreign nationals.....Gandoo indians failed to pretect the foreigners in their country........I would advise all the foreigners not to travel to india becuase their security forces are impotent..oye SHAH RUKH APNI HINDU MA KI CHOOT KI HAFAZAT KER WARNA TERA DOSRA BAHI PAIDA HO GA WO BHI PAKISTANI LUND SAY.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/29/2008 8:09:32 PM

    I just read what militants/terrorists are doing in Swat. It is terrible, terrible. Swat has been turned into terroris heaven. I take my words back which were said in anguish. India and Pakistan need to get together and root out terrorists but this religious bigotry has to stop. People are people and there is no religion bigger then humanity. Insaniyat is the biggest religion of all religions. May Paki army and its ISi get some wisdom and find a way to give up the people behind the mumbai terrorists. May everyone live in peace and harmony. War is not the answer for India and Pakistan. They need to cooperate with each other in rooting out the terrorists which are the common enemy of Indian and Pakistani people.
    Zardari is correct when he said - "we created a cancer and we recognize that we did, the terrorists are imposing their agneda on us." Let us support peace between 2 countries.

  • Posted By: ferozej @ 12/29/2008 2:53:39 AM

    As for your question about no other country ie Saudi or UAE not having religion on their passports you dumb Hindu fool its because they are all muslims. they dont have any dumb hindus, christians or Jews as nationals. Thats because they are smart unlike you morons.

    As of your example of Muslim from Pakistan or India who would be given preference obviously more muslims are desperate to leave India and will take lower paying jobs you moron. Check the demographics of the muslims who apply from India. They are persecuted and harassed in India and are willing to do anything to get out, The ones in Pakistan aren't so unfortunate so they pick and choose you Hindu Zealot. Aurengzeb should have kicked every Hindu ass a couple of 100 years ago, had he we wouldnt be having to deal with idiots like the two of you!!

  • Posted By: ferozej @ 12/29/2008 12:40:15 AM

    The both of you are denser then I thought. If you had a brain which you apparently dont you would have atleast answered the question your being asked but the truth hurts and you like the majority of Hindu fanatics dont have and any legitimate answer so you go off on your own tangent. Bloody Hindu zealots that you are.................. Shining India my ass, India only shines for the greedy west who want to milk its middle class but that wont last for long cause India aint going to be shining if its keeps making totally unfounded base less allegations which even Interpol is questioning..............

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/28/2008 9:01:08 PM

    pakis trying to divert the attention from mumbai killers, murderers and terrorists send by pakistan to murder foreigners, Indian muslims, so much for pakistani crocodile tears. Pakitanis send mumbai terrorists are criminals and murderers.
    Almost all kashmiris like myself are descendend from hindoo pandits who were forced to convert my barbaric muslim foreign invaders. Pakistatn instigated insurgency in Kashmir by sending religious terrorts from sudan. tunisia, algeria, saudis, jordan, lustful paktuns, and paki punjabis. Before 1989 there was peace oin kashmir.
    As russia left Afghjanistan in 1989, pakis diverted those terrorists to kill Indians and murder kashmiris.
    Funny thing about this paki religious terrorist is that most pakis are descendants of forced hindoo converts.
    Talk to an arab and he will say pakis are converted by force that their ancestors and the slavic turks converted them by force!! To an arab a paki is inferrior. Muhmmaed was an arab who married a 9 year old giirl aisha!!

    Pakistanis murdered, raped, killed 3 million fellow muslims from What used to be East Pakistan. Now called Bangladesh thanks toi India which liberated Bengalis from paki hegemony. There is a criminal blood that runs through the veins of most pakis that is why their so called country is a mess. Paki punjabis dominate pakistan. Sindhis hater muhajirs, Paktuns and muhajirs fight each other. Paktuns and pakisitani punjabis hate each other. Baluchis want pakistanis out of their land. Pakistan is a big screw !!@#. Whgat are thewy goiing to do with kashmir? Yeah make it just like they did to afghanistan.
    We all know that paki milityary is playing double games with World. It is supporting terrorist Taliba.
    taliba lEadre sroam fre ein pakistani cities. everyone knows who they are, what they do, wher ethey live. They even have a shura in Quetta. Paki military is supporting taliban even now. They might even know eher Osama laden is hiding.
    Pakis are beggars asking money to eat food from IMF After their "best friends saudi Arabia and China refused"
    Imagine that Paki president Zardari went to Saudi arabia to beg for money with mor ethen 200 cohorts, friends, advisers. Haha Who in right mind would give money to Mr. 10 percent zardari!!!!hahha. No one did give any money of course.
    Onky way to catch the terroris leaders i sto invade Pakistan.
    With US drawing from Iraq, Nato and US can invade from west, India from East.
    Great going Israel, Finally Israel did the right thing and attacked Gaza.
    God bless America, Israel , Great Britain and India and of course Nato.
    Always remember that it was Paki terrorist that killed world citiznes in Mumbai.
    The PAKISTANI TERRORISTS MURDERED UNARMED WORLD CITIZNES BESIDES INDIAN MUSLIMS.
    1. aMERICANS
    2. CANADAINS
    3. BRITISH
    4. FRENCH
    5. GERMANS
    6. ISRALEIS - THEY SPECIFICIALLY TARGETED JEWISH PEOPLE
    7. INDIAN MUSLIMS
    8. JAPANESE
    9. ITALY
    10 CHINA

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/28/2008 8:33:13 PM

    I know I got into paki skins really good. Paki responses are encouraging.

  • Posted By: hellomichigan @ 12/22/2008 4:50:11 PM

    Lately Pakistani govt. and its people keep talking about CHINA, as there all weather friend? Really
    PM of Pakistan Gillani mention in his last statement, we are not isolate from world community when we have friend like china.
    Well Gillani better understand that china is not living in fool paradise like Pakistan.
    China is not going to sacrifice 50+Billion business with India in next 10 years. They have 1.3 B people to feed. And like Pakistan, China is not living on charity. What china is getting from Pakistan? May be replacing America as a donor.
    Do you think that china is living in fool paradise? I don???t think so. They are shrewd business men. Plus by siding with Pakistan they also have to face USA and Russia. India has equally good relation with both this country. And world opinion is also favoring Indian diplomatic effort.
    Well What Pakistan is going to do? Two options, Fight with INDIA, and going back to stoneage.or learn from mistake and try to solve terror problem within Pakistan

    • Posted By: BOFORCE @ 12/28/2008 6:23:20 PM

      Indian Gandooos don't have guts to fight pakistan.....just 10 young men fuqed Mumbai for 60 hours....and your gandoo forces couldn't stop them.....stop dreaming about taking pakistan to stoneage.........and lubricate your GAND becuase we will fuq you.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/25/2008 1:02:59 PM

    REMEMBER THAT PAKISTANI TERRORIST MURDERERS AND TERRORISTS MURDERED OUR UNARMED AND INNOCENT
    GUESTS AND INDIAN MUSLIMS IN MUMBAI. THE GUESTS FROM FOLLOWING COUNTRIES WERE BRUTALLY MURDERED.
    USA
    GREAT BRITAIN
    AUSTRALIA
    CANANDA
    GERMANY
    JAPAN
    CHINA
    FRANCE
    ITALY
    ISRAEL
    REMEBER THEY DID NOT EVEN SPARE INDIAN MUSLIMS AND CHILDREN.
    THE WORLD WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT.
    PAKISTAN'S DAY OF RECKONING IS COMING SOON.

    • Posted By: BOFORCE @ 12/28/2008 6:11:45 PM

      Our day of reckoning is when we *** you GANDOOOOOOOOOOOOOO indians of Gandustan.

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/27/2008 12:56:10 AM

    Pak mad-rassas and paki history:
    The book prescribed for higher secondary students makes no mention of the uprising in East Pakistan in 1971 or the surrender by more than 90,000 Pakistani soldiers. Instead, it claims, "In the 1971 India-Pakistan war, the Pakistan armed forces created new records of bravery and the Indian forces were defeated everywhere."

    The students of Class 3 are taught that "Muhammad Ali (Jinnah) felt that Hindus wanted to make Muslims their slaves and since he hated slavery, he left the Congress". At another place it says, "The Congress was actually a party of Hindus. Muslims felt that after getting freedom, Hindus would make them their slaves."

    And this great historic discovery is taught to Std V students, "Previously, India was part of Pakistan."

    Commenting on this literature that spreads hate, leading Pakistani educationist Tariq Rahman wrote, "It is a fact that the textbooks cannot mention Hindus without calling them cunning, scheming, deceptive or something equally insulting. Students are taught and made to believe that Pakistan needs strong and aggressive policies against India or else Pakistan will be annihilated by it."

    • Posted By: BOFORCE @ 12/28/2008 3:08:39 AM

      oye SHAH RUKH TEERI MA KI CHOOT MAIN MERA LUND.........GANDDO TERI MA KO MAIN NAY CHODA OR TOU PAIDA HOWA....CHAL GAND MARWA

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/27/2008 12:55:30 AM

    Paki Mad-rassas are where most pakis get taught:
    The empowerment of terror in Pakistan has not happened overnight. This is the
    logical culmination of the politics and policies pursued by Pakistan
    Terrorism in Pakistan has its roots in the culture of hate and the ethos of inequality on the ground of religious faith, leading to their being deeply ingrained in the Pakistani psyche and mindset.

    One factor that has played a crucial role in creating this culture of hate is the educational policy of the government of Pakistan pursued since 1977. The officially prescribed textbooks, especially for school students, are full of references that promote hate against India in general, and Hindus in particular.

    A cursory glance at Pakistani school textbooks - especially the compulsory subjects like Pakistan studies and social studies - gives an idea of how history has been distorted and a garbled version prescribed to build this mindset and attitude.

    The objective of Pakistan's education policy has been defined thus in the preface to a Class 6 book: "Social studies have been given special importance in educational policy so that Pakistan's basic ideology assumes the shape of a way of life, its practical enforcement is assured, the concept of social uniformity adopts a practical form and the whole personality of the individual is developed." This statement leaves no doubt that "social uniformity", not national unity, is a part of Pakistan's basic ideology.

    The Class 5 book has this original discovery about Hindu help to bring British rule to India: "The British had the objective to take over India and to achieve this, they made Hindus join them and Hindus were very glad to side with the British. After capturing the subcontinent, the British began on the one hand the loot of all things produced in this area, and on the other, in conjunction with Hindus, to greatly suppress the Muslims."

    The Std VIII book says, "Their (Muslim saints) teachings dispelled many superstitions of the Hindus and reformed their bad practices. Thereby Hindu religion of the olden times came to an end."

    On Indo-Pak wars, the books give detailed descriptions and openly eulogize ???jihad' and ???shahadat' and urge students to become ???mujahids' and martyrs and leave no room for future friendship and cordial relations with India.

    According to a Class 5 book, "In 1965, the Pakistani army conquered several areas of India, and when India was on the point of being defeated, she requested the United Nations to arrange a ceasefire. After 1965, India, with the help of Hindus living in East Pakistan, instigated the people living there against the people of West Pakistan, and finally invaded East Pakistan in December 1971. The conspiracy resulted in the separation of East Pakistan from us. All of us should receive military training and be prepared to fight the enemy."



  • Posted By: hellomichigan @ 12/26/2008 6:50:28 PM

    Doing good Job Shahrukh ,Keep it up ,you are under PORKISTANI skin.Good Job

  • Posted By: hellomichigan @ 12/26/2008 6:49:06 PM

    Shahrukh ,Not in guantanamo ,India has Place like Guantanamo ,We called i ANDAMAN NICOBAR,Perfect for Kiyani and ISI CHIEF PASHA ,Hamid GUl,Zaid Hameed ,

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/26/2008 4:59:19 PM

    ferozgc napak paki land is exposed world wide as World terrorist headquarters. In case of war with India, US and Nato and obviously Russia will come together on the side of india. This will alos be the best opportunity for Nato ad US to invade your napak land from west and even east. Even china knows its uighur separaratists get training in double face napak paki land.
    Your country will last 1 week at most and you will be forced into a humiliating defeat and your napak military and isi will be disbanded and all officers put into guantanamo like prison permanently. We will go into the homes oif the terrorists and beat the crap out of them inside their homes.
    The terrorists will run but cannot hide.
    This is also the best opportunit y for US and nato to tak eout your nukes and your mots wanted list and your thief scientists. Don't worry we will liberate your napak land from pakitsani punjabi hegemony, your corrupt killer politicians and of course your scheming terrorists supporting military and ISI.
    As a napak paki you would of course know 75% of your imports come through Karachi. IUs will oblige India and help in blockaing karachi and rest of your crappy sea ports.
    Hey, I forgot your hindoo ancestors were CONVERTED BY FORCE. That is no way to enter a religion. Only cowards do that. The blood of cowards runs in the veins of most Pakis. Or is thieves like Iqbal's grand daddy. who ran away from kashmir after being convicted of theivery and given a choice to die by sword or convert. Iqbal's granddaddy chose to live his shameful life as a muslim convert. shame shame.
    Funny thing the whole country of forced converts becoming delusional and identifying with the inavders!!!!
    Even Arabs will are amazed!!!! Even arabs don't ask anyone to idenmtify themselves as muslims on their passports but sword forced paki converts are just like retarted taliabi mullahs putting identification tags around the collar sof its minorities. It must be shameful to be called a Paki around the whole World. Buudjaat.

  • Posted By: hellomichigan @ 12/26/2008 11:59:15 AM

    I have one simple Question to all Porkistani moron. Say company in Dubai wants to hire Muslim, and they have two applicants ,One Porkistani Muslims and another one is Indian Muslims ,Which One do they hire ? Do you want to guess in your empty brain ? lol

  • Posted By: hellomichigan @ 12/26/2008 11:48:35 AM

    Here if someone sound moron? Is Porkistani, you can shout, scream, used foul language, It is in your blood.Last 60 yrs, all porkistani doing. is shouting and Playing Dirty games. You made life miserable for your neighbor in India and Afghanistan by sending terrorist. In India we have more Muslim then porkistan.And it is for everybody to see ,what is the plight of Porkistani.at least Indian Muslims live in Peace ,they didn't want to be in Porkistan.Think you moron ,before pointing fingers towards India.Porkistan is Scumbag,Only thing Porkistani can do is Killing Innocent civilian.Cowards,

  • Posted By: ferozej @ 12/26/2008 4:48:34 AM

    Obviously 98 percent of pakistanis are Muslims, if you know your history Pakistan was created for the Muslims of the subcontinent you moron! If there had been no Pakistan more Muslims would be discriminated against in India then they already are. Muslims, Christians and even Hindus of a lower caste in India are treated like garbage. What is wrong with having religion mentioned in your passport? So what if no other country does it?

    As for blockading Karachi port you imbecile we have port qasim and gwadar too.

    If you think your such a smart ass why dont you answer the questions I put to you and the other nitwit called hellomichigan and then lets take it from there...................

  • Posted By: Shah Rukh @ 12/25/2008 5:49:55 PM

    Do you know that 98% of Pakistanis arer muslims.
    Before 1947 almost 40 percent of population of Pakistan was minorities - hindoos, sikhs, christians, today it is 2 percent.
    Then do you know that in a Pakistani passport you have to fill out your religion!!!!! Do yoy know why?
    It is because It is policy of Pakistan to isolate the remaining 2 percent minority population.
    No country asks its citziens to state what religion they belong to EXCEPT napak Pakistan.
    India should put up ablockade of main port of napak Pakistan - Karachi port. It is through Karachi they get almost all of their imports an dfood supplies.
    Let us starve the Lying, deceiving napapk pakis. That should be the first step. May be US can help.

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