I think war is not good so pakistan should hand over all terror leaders demanded by India and US.
I think war is not good so pakistan should hand over all terror leaders demanded by India and US.
According to confidential sources from Indian Capital New Delhi, India has set up its course in reply to Mumbai attack.
New Delhi wants USA and UK out of Picture in diplomatic efforts.
Indian Defense Team is in last phase of war drawing.
All three Chief of army, Navy and Air, preparing final preparation with corp., commanders.
Seems like we have New Bhavani MATA in form of SONIA. Her mother in law was Durga.
Those who under estimate Durga (Indira Gandhi) in 71 including (AYUB, NIXON, KISSINGER)
Had learned there lesson very hard way. Sonia is even more determined then her mother in law.
Well Best of Luck India. Jai Bharat
We have done our best to give Pakistan a chance to come clean, it is not working; we need to finished this Demon once and for all. IT IS ALL PAKISTANs FAULT.
RON, YOU GUYS ARE SO SIMPLE, BELIEVE ME THEY HAVE ENOUGH GEAR TO SUPPLY TO TERRORISTS AND FIGHT INDIA, THEY WILL MAKE EXCUSES SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT THEIR OWN BROTHERS, TALIBANS. NOW, ALL PAKISTANI LEADERS ARE SAYING IN THE MEDIA THAT THEY ARE WELL EQUIPPED TO FIGHT 4 TIMES STRONG INDIAN FORCES; BUT WHEN IT COMES TO FIGHTING TERRORISTS, THEY CLAIM THEY DON'T HAVE ANY GEAR, YOU BELIEVE THEM? THEY MUST HAVE SHOWED YOU SOME COSMETIC AND THEATRICAL FIGHTS WHICH THEY ARE GOOD AT PLANNING; MUSHARRAF DID THE SAME THING AFTER 9/11 TO PUT OFF US PRESSURE. RIGHT NOW THEY ARE THINKING THAT OBAMA WILL BE WEAKER IN HIS RESOLVE AGAINST TERRORISTS. UNTIL YOU REALLY SEE ANY DEAD-BODIES OF TERRORISTS, DON'T BELIEVE THEM AND FALL INTO THEIR TRAP.
If Dawood Ibrahim or Tiger memon, former Dons of Bombay underworld and wanted by India are in Pakistan, they should be handed over to Interpol. Since the time these two Mafia thugs are reported to be in Karachi, there has been a rise in street crimes, cases of ransom and kidnapping. Both these mafia men enjoy support of the MQM, which has ruled Karachi. There are also reports that these men have now gone underground and are living somewhere in the GulF region. Three years back Dawood Ibrahim's daughter was married to son of cricketer Javed Miandad in a large marriage ceremony held within the Gulf states, since then he has not been reported to have returned. Interpol should arrest these two men immediately.
The attacks on Bombay which resulted in killing of over 170 persons must be condemned by every peace loving human being. However questions arise as to how these alleged terrorists came on boats from the sea, undetected by the Indian Navy, which was carrying out a massive naval exercise in the Indian Sea. This act of terrorism, even if it were to be assumed to have been planned by non state actors from across the border, could not have occured without active support from within India. The subcontinent has seen such interference by countries within the region, supporting insurgencies and acts of terror in other countries within the region. India itself has been involved in supporting insurgency within former East pakistan in 1971, it was again behind the Tamil insurgency within Sri Lanka, and responsible for inteference in Nepal. India is the only country which supports the Myanmar military dictatoship, inspite of sanctions imposed by UN. India is also responsible for fomenting and supporting Baloch insurgency within Pakistan, through its thousands of men stationed in Afghanistan, where it maintains over 14 consular offices, the highest in any foreign country, the size of Afghanistan. There are also many internal insurgencies within India, such as in Kashmir, Nagaland etc. Pakistan has been involved in supporting the Kashmiri freedom struggle, which is a disputed territory, and UN has passed resolutions on it. India is the major power within the subcontinent. Pakistan is no match to India's military superiority. Pakistan's sole deterence is its nuclear capability, which it acquired after India exploded a nuclear device and threatened to punish Pakistan. It is time that all the countries of the subcontinent must cease interference in each others territory and collectively fight the threat of terrorism. All issues including the issue of Kashmir must be resolved in accordance with the wishes of the people of Kashmir. Both India and Pakistan must commit that neither of them will directly or indirectly support insurgencies within the region. The Bombay massacre could be the brainchild of extremists fighting in Afghanistan, who want to create tension along the Pakistan - India border, in order to force Pakistan's over 100,000 troops stationed along the Afghan border fighting the war on terror, to divert them to the Indian border. It can also be a plot by Indian Hindu Fundamentalist forces to stir up support for the upcoming elections and also to obstruct the US President elects declared policy to resolve all outstanding problems between India and Pakistan, including Kashmir, in order to collectively wage a full scale onslaught against terrorism along the Aghan border. It is a sad fact that a serving Indian military officer Col Purohit, was found to be behind the killing of over 60 Pakistani passengers returning back on Samjotha Express ( Friendship Train) by investigations conducted by India's Anti Terrorist Squad.
And about fooling Bush ........... what we can do .......you elected him twice.....!!!!!!!!
Well Pakistan is never gonna turn Mr. Hamid Gul over to anybody , and if you are living in a fool's paradise come out of it.
You cannot expect any intelligence chief to behave like Mother Teresa and Jesus . When you point that the ISI is harbouring terrorists then what do you think about what your CIA did in Iran , Cuba , Nicaragua , and many many places still to be discovered. Your CIA installed leaders like the Shah of Iran i.e directly supporting genocide.
First the people involved in these cases should be handed over to the UN because charges on them have been proved.Then you should expect others to do as you wish.
When the CIA is at work who needs mercenaries????
Joaquin571377 ,Where did you learn your history lesson in Pakistan??? Madaressa ???Does it make any difference if army surrender or Politician surrender? after all who is in charge of pakistan for last 60 yrs? If Army keep check and balance on industry ,and when they lost war they have to ask politician to surrender? are you out of your mind like your nation?
Well , while i respect other views , jbut i reserve the right to reject them as unfounded and baseless. I am alright with the opoinion of Charanjit Singh , because he is programmed to have those views being an Indian.
But for the rest of the readers I would just like to comment that it is the PAKISTAN ARMY that has suffered the most casualities in the WAR on TERROR , with numbers as high as 1200 .On the other hand , Britian with only 100 casualities in Afghanistan boasts to be at the forefront of this war.
And the Pakistan Army is working in a completely differnt scenario too. We have to differntiate b/w our own men and the militants , on one hand we are ensuring minimum civilian casualities and on the other engaging the terrorist outfits.While Allied forces in Afghanistan are on a foreign soil where they can go on killing civilians dubbing them as ALQAEDA and the Taliban.
Secondly , when our government put forward a proposal to mine or fence the border with Afghanistan the Allies donot agree on that too.This shows our sincerety towards the cause.The border b/w Pakistan and Afghanistan is very porous , with families living divided on either side of the border.And for centuries people have been moving freely until now.This border can only be effectively guarded thogh fencing as the US did in case of it's border with Mexico to ward off illegal immigrants.
It has been established now through researches that almost 90% of the insurgency in Afghanistan is involves local Afghans and only 6% can be assumed to be coming from across the border.So why so much emphasis on this 6% while neglecting the major chunk that is inbred.
Then there is the political context , the british and the US masses can't even see the casualities of their professional soldiers in Iraq, let alone fellowcitizens and are demanding withdrawl. Earlier i thought that soldiers are supposed for war , but I was mistaken.But on the contrary they are demanding the Pakistan Army to keep on fighting and continue laying down lives not only of their fellow colleagues but also of fellow citizens in the garb of collateral damage.
Cutting short, the Pa is rightful in demanding all these weapons because our lives are precious too and we too have a political govt. that has to toe the public sentiment.
And it is absolutely right on the part of the Pakistan Army to demand it's allies for sending more gear.
The world must accept Pakistan is a Terrorist State - the epicenter of all terrorist activity in the world. For Pakistan to claim it is a victim of terrorism is for the terrorist bomb maker to complain that his life is continually at risk! There is desperate need for an international task force to have an operation like "Desert Storm", occupy Pakistan and dismantle the terrorist infrastructure nurtured and actively supported by the Armyand the ISI
You may get ur wish. EVERY Soldier in my Co. knows P-stan is the problem. Soon, it will happen.
Ya Mr. True _ Indian you have clearly shown how ill informed you are by sayin' that Pakistan has not arrested any top Al-Qaeda leader. The Pakistan army has arrested and handed over atleast 600 people Wanted by theC.I.A and by the way who resides in Guntanamo Bay all these people were caught by the help of the Pakistani Military whicludes Khalid Sheikh Mohammad the alleged mastermind of the 911 attacks. What else do you want ?
And the 5th largest army showed its guts when Indian planes tried to enter into our airspace and how they were forced to retreat.And i think you might not know abt the world record which a gallant pilot of the Pakistan Airforce made by shooting down 5 indian airplanes in less than a minute during the 1965 war, and that too with an inferior aircraft.So never ever underestimate our ability against India.
Yeah, so you throw us a bone to get us off ur backs, and plead ur case for $ and military hardware. You may have fooled that idiot Bush, but the game is over. Tell me, when will the PAKI's turn Hamid Gul&Co over to the US? Thats the real test. My thoughts are no, and that the ISI will be named a terror group...then the whole stinking S-HOLE. You know a GPS guided bomb can fly over 30 miles to its target? I have a feeling ur PAKI's are gonna find out, the HARD way. CHEERS!!!
I really like that plan SHAH RUKH, nobody deserves a month long camp-aign of round the clock air-strikes, cruise missles than the PAKI's. All for the reasons you said. Is there ANY honest, moderate PAKI's? Nah, didn't think so. YOUR DAY IS COMING. And, hell, you EARNED it! Have a F'd up day you nation of LIARS.
Well, looking at ur comment JOAQUIN tells me ur either delusional, stupid, or both. The ONLY thing the US needs from the PAKI's is thier port, Karachi. When another logistics route is found, the PAKI's may find themselves on the wrong end of a massive airstrike. The tribal areas do not belong to the PAKI's, they ceded it to the T-ban/AQ. We have been crossing thier border for a long time, in small groups. Soon, we will send troops in Brigade stregnth. Lets see how tough ur PAKI's are..moron.
Went through the posted comments. They are hillarious. If US or India has the courage to attack Pakistan, then why dont they? Lets be very honest, Pakistan army is no doubt a very professional and brave army as compared to Indian and American. American army is dependent on Pakistan army where as Indian army,ha, talking about them is waste of words and thoughts. India should have spend all that money on the poor people inside india. They could have stood up and fough for india better. And perhsps,held india together. Attack Pakistan and its going to be just one or two Indian states fighting against Pakistan,for a day or two. By then,there will be atleast 9 more Pakistan's inside India. Lets accept, whatever happened in india was all staged by their own government. As for Pak Amy's involvement in political and economical sector, its Pakistan's internal matter. We have no objection to it as they keep a check and balance. As for surrendering, it was not the army that surrendered. It was a political order from politicians. Get the facts right guys and then think. Empty vessels make more noise.
The only reason stopping Indiafrom invading Pakistan is US pressure nothing else. Only because US has most of its troops in Iraq that US hands are tied military wise. Otherwise when US troops withdraw from Iraq Obama has already said he will center his attention on pakistan. Then US and NATO can invade Pakistan from west and India can invade from East. Paki Napak land is almost 400 miles wide - not very wide and about 1000 miles long. With narrow country like Pakistan, directly bypassing its cities and going straight for - rawalpindi and islamabad would be cakewalk - easier then iraq.
But before that 1 month of air raids and bombardment should already ensure Napak Paki surrender.
pakistan's day of reckoning will come - a little late but will come. paki days of deceit, lying , creating , supporting, sponsoring terrorists will come to an inglorious humiliating end.
World be at peace then.
God Bless America.
Pakis are just beggars. They beg. shameful. After creating terrorists they only turned agianst them officially(sure they are playing double game) after USA threatened to bomb them to stone ages.
They think India is a soft target that is why paki ISI creted supported laskar terrorists murdered unarmed citizens of the world.
Pakis with corrupt sham democracy ruled by tin pot dictators and isi agents will use all equipment against India.
Do you know paki military and isi own the largest landholdings in napak paki land. that paki generals with no experience run civilian factories? yea it is all true.
Only way to eliminate terrorists is to invade pakistan just like US troops in afghanistan want to do. God bless America.
Enter Your ComIn the last six decades Pakistan Army under the command of Fascist Generals has betrayed the nation four times by defying their oath and constitution. Moreover these fascist Generals used their political influence and transformed military into an organised crime syndicate and a business mafia. This organisation is the biggest stake holder and stock holder in every big business of Pakistan. They have biggest share in Pakistan???s stock exchange, operate commercial bank, airline, steel, cement, telecom, petroleum and energy, education, sports, health care and even grocery shops chains and bakeries. In short their monopoly is present in every sector of Pakistan???s economy. On the contrary their performance at their profession is nil. Pakistan army being ranked as the seventh biggest army in the world has not conquered a single inch in fact it has only brought embarrassment to the nation in the battle fields of Kargil and Dhaka ment
Don;t ever forget ,in 1971 93,000 Paki army men ,surrender with weapon in there hand ,SO please don't cherished your BRAVE ARMY ,they are only brave in front of innocent civilian without wepaon,
want hear more story about your brave ARMY???
NOTICE THE PICTURE!! NOT ONE OF THEM ARE ARMED!!! I DON'T SEE ONE RIFLE OR SIDE ARM!?YEAH THEY'RE A REAL THREAT ALLRIGHT!!
when did this discussion stop being about pakistans needs for gear and more about attacking anyone with a less than flatterring view of the country... with all due respect to the fighting prowess of the pakistani army, the results are hardly anything to boast about (sticking to the current situation with no reference to any previous success) Plus the question mark on where the resources assigned are ultimately used has been long contested.
Besides pakistan has bigger issues (economic and social not military) to deal with..
the axis of all evil
israel and india
it even rhymes
its incredible but true
To jbz7879--- The nation of Israel is certainly not evil, neither is India. The evil in this world are the blasted terrorists who blow up other people for the fun of it.
sighhh...not only is that incredibly immateur..it does NOT even rhyme
When is the US going to learn and understand that Pakistan is not going to handover Osama on a plate nor get rid of any local and all terrorists operating from inside their country. How can they when they are hand in cheek with the terrorists ? Blatant misuse of money, arms , intelligence, secret deals with Taliban, assasination of its own general, presidential electoral candidate, repeated attacks and proxy wars with India, peddling of nuclear technology to unstable countries and regimes, the list is endless. Pakistan uses all this weaponry and money lavished on it by US for the majority part on non-peaceful purposes. Pakistan is not an ally of the US nor of any country in the world. It is only an ally of itself, terrorism and religious fanatcism. I hope the new president will have more understanding of this issue and stop sending our tax dollars to this country. I still fail to understand why the US needs a rogue ally like Pakistan. Instead of forcing it to give up supporting terrorism, bombing the hell out of its terror camps and training facilities, punishing it by labeling it a terrorist state, isolating it and gradually allowing it to sink into the reality that what it has been doing is morally wrong the US continues to heap billions and billions of dollars of tax payers on this namesake democratic country and its past dozens of military dictators. We are not reducing terrorism by all this lax behaviour we are in fact encouraging it and rewarding the culprits UNASHAMEDLY !
I agree
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