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Why China Is Too Scared to Spend

Boosting consumption is key to economic recovery. But that will take fixing a disastrous health system.

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  • Posted By: shielin @ 08/05/2009 10:09:06 AM

    Stupid american want we Chinese to spend.
    You don't know the reality of Chinese.
    We are worrying about future everyday.
    The only people that have the ability to spend are the goverment employees, the corrupt officials, which account for a little
    percentage of Chinese. And they are spending already. Their wives and children are in the US spending.
    Don't expect the 1.3 billion Chinese to spend. 800 Million of them are farmers who make 1000 dollors a year totally

  • Posted By: mannotw @ 12/18/2008 7:47:47 PM

    Everyone seems to be intent on figuring out how to stimulate the economy by looking at business dynamics, but ignoring people. If the people's need for and right to affordable health care is not met, the longterm prognosis cannot be good. This goes for China or any other country

  • Posted By: Alex Wu @ 12/18/2008 10:11:43 AM

    Build health-care system, It is a key point to stimulate chinese domestic demand. That is one of the most important reason why chinese people have a so high reserve rate. In current situation, people have to warry about their future, including health problem, children's education, mortagage of property. Chinese goverments, including center and local, are very rich now, however, ordinary people still lack abilities to bear any healthy or unemployed risks.

  • Posted By: 印象伊犁 @ 12/17/2008 5:16:13 AM

    health-care just one unavoided factor to make people scared to spend.Other fatal part incuding housing problem,retired
    welfare... I am not sure if the massive job losses occurring is ture or not.What I firmly believe in is the current worldwide crisis magnified by few magnates.Because of their companies are about to bankruptcy.Such as GM,Ford,Chrysler...

  • Posted By: er123 @ 12/17/2008 12:13:44 AM

    This is like, which comes first, chicken or egg? To start an economic recovery, which comes first, people spending or business/jobs creation?

    People are scared to spend, seeing that massive job losses are occurring. It is just their natural instinct for survival, by increasing their ability to buy food and add a few more days before hunger strikes. And unless they see increased business activity and jobs creation, people lack the confidence to spend.

    Businesses are closing or laying-off workers because of low demand. Unless they see an increase in demand for their products, they are not going to expand and hire additional workers.

    And both sides would not want to be the first to step in. So someone needs to act as a bridge between the two. International banks and investors brought the global economic prosperity we had these past years to us. They provided the funding for foreign investments in China and provided easy credit for consumers to buy the products from China. Therefore, the global economic prosperity was made possible only because of credit. And because, the banks and the investors lost hundreds of billions of dollars in America, they pulled out their cash and caused credit crisis. They will not repeat that mistake for a long, long time or maybe forever.

    So, who will take the place of the bankers and investors to stimulate China???s economic recovery? Of course, their government, which has their 2 trillion dollar reserves. But the US, saddled with deep recession and deficits and debts, cannot continue unlimited buying of China???s products. So with many other countries that import from China. And with falling exports, it cannot expect to replenish its reserves used for public spending to stimulate its economy. Thus, as its people, China will be scared to spend, too; and so the rest of the world.

    Since we broke sound economic laws, we are experiencing these global economic problems. It takes time before the crisis ends; so all we could do is hunker down. And those who have prepared for this crisis will suffer less. Those who prepared food and water before hurricane comes will have something to eat before relief comes. Those who prepared candles and flashlight will have light when the night comes. As in any disaster, survival depends on preparation. When it comes, we can only hunker down. When it passes by, then we can go out and rebuild.

    So with this economic crisis, we can only hunker down while it is passing by. But China, having 2 trillion reserves is in a better position than US, which has $10 trillion debts. For China to compensate for the loss of export revenues and jobs should embark on a massive food production program to feed its people that have lost jobs. This may help prevent unrest among it people.

    This crisis may take time. And global economic recovery will come, but not yet. And when it comes, it will be a different model.



  • Posted By: Jim1348 @ 12/16/2008 8:20:12 PM

    If the Europeans are not criticizing us for too big a deficit, they are criticizing us for not providing government health care.

    Who says our health care system does not work? If some people think they get it for free if the government provides it, that only illustrates their economic ignorance. In that category, Europe is still ahead of us (though certainly W. has been working to close the ignorance gap, but from the wrong direction).

  • Posted By: Vigilance @ 12/16/2008 5:32:11 PM

    SOCIALIZED MEDICINE WORKS!!!!

    Europe, Canada - please, if you can, step up and show America and China how to fix our broken healthcare systems.

  • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 12/16/2008 2:12:43 PM

    Wow. So -socialized medicine, funded by the government and handled at the community level worked in China, and the American model of profit driven care based in hospitals didn't.

    What a surprise!

    And the Chinese people's individual solutions are to save lots of money, because they know if they get sick, they will have to pay for their own care, so they hoard their money instead of invest it in China's day-to-day economy.

    Instead of this article urging the Chinese to adopt the failed American model of uber-consumer, now that they have adopted the failed American model of profit driven medicine, Americans should learn from China's mistakes and fix our broken system here at home.

    (1) The place of care needs to be the home, work and school, not the office, the clinic, or the hospital, and (2) basic healthcare for all provided by the government is the solution, not the problem, to boosting our economy. (Note to America - one of the biggest reasons the Big 3 automakers are in so much trouble is that they needed to provide health benefits to their retirees - that should be the government's job; the job of the Big 3 should be to make cars).

    Get a clue, America - China had a workable health care system until they adopted OUR system.

    Now both of us have broken health care systems.

  • Posted By: 123BruceLee @ 12/15/2008 7:09:27 PM

    A good, fair article with a biased illustration (photo).

    • Posted By: MoCuishle119 @ 12/15/2008 10:11:54 PM

      Haha, you are very carful. Anyway, that's not a police. He's a security guard in hospital. Only those who know little about China will take him as a police, what 'may' just be attempt of the editor choosing this pic. Anyway, a 'good try' for the editor, in the way "trying to mislead readers".

      Such kinda misleading methodologies are popularly and commonly used by BBC, CNN and more Germany and French medium, which had been especially reflected during the Tibet crisis. Those faked photos used by these western medium, those "Nepal polices beating Tibetans" photos titiled by BBS as "Chinese polices". We have already get used to this and are not surprised at all to see more.

      The only thing we can learn from these kinda photos is to see the true face of the "freedom" in western medium, which are lacking of regulations and rules, and which keep making faked news and misleading and biased reports. (:

  • Posted By: MoCuishle119 @ 12/15/2008 10:00:59 PM

    so now US want to promot their "over-consumption" methodology to China too... haha, they want to see China also experience a Crisis in another 10 years?

  • Posted By: maguro_01 @ 12/15/2008 6:57:48 PM

    The most important reason for the high savings rate in China is likely the government's one child policy. Parents will not have children to take care of things in their old age - a massive social/cultural change.

    Actually, such a high savings rate for old age is just what Libertarians advocate here, since they want Social Security and pensions abolished. Expecting people anywhere to spend themselves into bankrupcy like our vainglorious USA is not in the cards.

    One problem China has these days is that the US collapsed too quickly and completely - no one could have forecast this utter foolishness and disaster. Brand Wall Street is utterly trashed. China has won the economic wars with the US, it is vanquished. After adding the debts for bailouts and relocation of US corporate assets tp China, the USA will be essentially a Tributary State to China. But this premature collapse here means that China has an essential interest in US well being after a point. Will China lend a trilllion for bailouts? Or would it be more efficient to spend the money in China? Much of China's holdings are in US dollars and the US can't inflate out of debt any more without real collapse. What effect will that have on China? Are we now Siamese Twins or can China, with Japan and Korea, cut the US loose?

  • Posted By: Ronald @ 12/15/2008 7:23:45 AM

    what do you mean "Chinese are not spending." Retail sales is up 20+%.

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 12/14/2008 10:55:29 PM

    America is bancrupted, maybe spending the way out of trouble is the disease, not the cure. Maybe we should be taking the advice of the chinese

  • Posted By: wkchin @ 12/14/2008 2:32:38 PM

    China or Chinese is too "scared" to spend is not mainly because of the poor health care system. It is the culture in China and also in many Asian nations that we all try to save as much as we could for the "rainy day". Also the trillion used in the article is a mis-present ation. If this figures falls on a nation of billions of people it won't account much for individuals. To be pragmatic, most of us would care more about our incomes from employment. Most of our priorities in spending is to buy food, cloths, and accommodation for the family before our personal health. In short China is not a rich nation as much as we like to think.

  • Posted By: Glenderful @ 12/14/2008 3:57:37 AM

    Yes, the medical situation in China is a disaster. Everyone here knows it. This article hits the nail exactly on the head on what needs to be done! Doctors often raise their meager salaries by prescribing high-priced tests and medicines, and patients who cannot pay upfront are denied services. Health care is so expensive and distorted that no matter how much you save, if you get sick you're going to end up poor. America's health care problems can't even compare.

  • Posted By: nawawimohamad @ 12/14/2008 3:30:18 AM

    The medical problem in China is not as bad as being potrayed by this article. Moreover it is from the US point of view which typical of the US. The medical problem in the US is more disastrous and since the president could be pressured by the lobbyist from the drug manufacturers, the US is more prone to endemic diseases like the avian flu. The drug manufactures could intentionally introduce the virus and force the US government to buy the antidote. China has shown its resilience in controlling and eradication of the disease. Normal sickness and cancers are common to all countries and is no issue in China. They have other alternative medicines and traditional form of treatments.

  • Posted By: joy123 @ 12/14/2008 12:34:44 AM

    I think the writer is quite familiar of the reality of China,It is just the point why Chinese do not spending too much and save a lot,the health system is seriously flawed and the hospitals are charging unreasonably high,the most worried thing for ordinary Chinese is to get ill,one you've gor a serious disease,you may most likely end up dying without treatment because you can not afford the expence and the medical system provides little help.

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