The Fed Who Blew the Whistle

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  • Posted By: mauriceriggs @ 12/14/2008 7:53:28 PM

    This guy has more than likely experienced so many repulsive situations that he'd had enough. His life is f*cked-up and it's nothing he can do about it. He should sue the Government for any and every thing he can. Also, given the chance, the Government will 'sell him out' in a heartbeat. Hope what he's had to say puts some people behind bars like regular citizens and Americans get.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/14/2008 8:16:31 PM

      Ranked Democrats had power in Congress to investigate anything they wanted, and they did not say a word about that wiretapping scandal. They new very well what americans thought about it, remember, Bush rating rose almost 10 points (only once in his second term) when he admitted responsibility.

      • Posted By: ocodan @ 12/14/2008 8:50:45 PM

        bighappy! I agree with you here.. the Democratic Congress was derelict in its duties to stop this... finally, we agree on something!

        • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/15/2008 11:54:33 AM

          Neither of your parties has any interest in stopping this sort of nonsense.

          Wake up.

  • Posted By: dArKeR @ 12/14/2008 8:12:10 PM

    Tamm is an American hero for exposing these filthy Republican pigs! Now where is the prosecution of these criminal Republican pigs?

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/14/2008 8:26:45 PM

      Now I take my words back (see my comments above), you are not a honest Democrat, you are indeed terrorists supporter.

      • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/15/2008 11:46:37 AM

        So, your definition of "terrorist" is anyone who opposes your party?

  • Posted By: al75 @ 12/14/2008 8:15:06 PM

    Democracy depends, ultimately, on the convictions and integrity of "little people", i.e. staff sargeants, assistant attorneys, and the millions of the rest of us, who will -- or won't -- "follow orders" they believe to be morally corrupt. The nazis and stalinists used terror and mass murder to silence dissenters -- and their regimes ultimately disintegrated as a result. Tamm did what Specialist Joseph Danby (the man who exposed Abu Graib), James Comey, and Daniel Ellsberg did: at great personal risk, he took steps to expose something he knew to be illegal and wrong. This is courage. It's a defense of our laws and constitution. This isn't about "red or blue" - it's about "red white and blue" ie what our country actually stands for. Without people like Tamm, we're in alot of trouble.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/14/2008 8:24:00 PM

      Those people did not endanger our security and lives, they even did not give away any lassified information, and you can name them true heroes (probably Deep Throat was the real hero, because he was only one really riskink his life). On the contrary, this jerk revealed to terrorists highly classified information which probably made your life more dangerous, unless you are one of terrorist supporters (I still think you are honest Democrat, not a terrorist).

      • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/15/2008 11:45:45 AM

        "Those people did not endanger our security and lives,"

        No, they merely crapped all over your constitution.

      • Posted By: sesela @ 12/14/2008 9:41:45 PM

        WOW...i'm surprised bighappy is named bighappy-- while spreading so much hate and anger. Maybe you should think about joining the armed forces and or going back? You could go shoot some "terrorists."

        • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/15/2008 12:25:58 AM

          Hate? I love you, I even don't hsve that jerk and traitor, don't want him to be further prosecuted because he was punished enough. But I don;t want anybody to name him a hero, he is a traitor and must be remembered this way.

  • Posted By: thinkotsdbox @ 12/14/2008 8:25:36 PM

    This is why we need one than one party in this country.

    Would this come to light in a Democratic Administration? I think not. The press is a mouthpiece for the Democrats. We are on the verge of Totalitarianism in this country. Remember the Illegal searches of the TSA (under the Fourth Amendment) Everyone is searched. Everyone cannot be searched in your car for drugs per the supreme court 2006 during a routine traffic stop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution, there Must be cause. But Airports are different?) But were are the Progressives? The Democrats? No where to be seen since they created the TSA and 40000 Jobs are assoicated with it.

    Meanwhile Mexican drug gangs come across the border into Phoenix to kidnap and torture US Citizens. Ports and Shipping is not protected.

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/15/2008 11:45:09 AM

      Wait. All these measures were brought in under a republican president, but NOW you're on the verge of totalitarianism?

  • Posted By: jsteinauer @ 12/14/2008 9:32:57 PM

    It seems to me that protecting the constitution is the higher calling. Expecting someone to use official procedures to report unconstitutional acts is crazy rhetoric as it informs the very same chain of command that made the decisions to set aside the laws and protections of the constitution. A person who believes in the constitution looses faith in leadership to whom rights are merely inconveniences. When a person makes the decision to report this sort of abuse of power, they act in complete selflessness; they have everything to lose in doing what their oath requires, and only their integrity to retain. The laws were written to protect our national secrets, not criminal decisions made in secret and kept so in a self-justifying plurality. The substance is quite different, to be sure, between valid national secrets and the secrets of those hiding their own abuses of power. Sleep well Mr. Tamm, you deserve it. Keep the faith, sir.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/14/2008 11:27:19 PM

      Is not right to live in the same Constitution? Yes, sleep well, Mr Tamm, several people probably lost their lives because of you, several CIA agents must now risk their lives to wiretap Al Qaida in some much less safe places.

      • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/15/2008 11:42:38 AM

        According to the article, the NSA wasn't wiretapping Al Qaeda, it was wiretapping American citizens, and deliberately bypassing the FISA court.

  • Posted By: alexpinca @ 12/14/2008 9:57:34 PM

    I have often told my son who is a moderate leaning Republican that one third of the American population would have lived quite comfortably under the Thrid Reich. This is just another example. Ask me if I trust the government of the United States.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/14/2008 10:44:26 PM

      What part? Nazis were socialists. They were organized by socialists, invited to join their party ANY social-democrat or communist both before and after 1933, their party even had name :National-S9cialist Working Party", so they represented all Democrats in Germany. Following your logic ... no, I don't believe that american Democrats will join them.

      • Posted By: alexpinca @ 12/14/2008 11:26:32 PM

        Nazism, officially "called National Socialism, refers primarily to the ideology and practices of the National Socialist German Workers??? Party under Adolf Hitler; and the policies adopted by the government of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945.
        Nazism is sometimes considered by scholars to be a form of fascism. While it incorporated elements from both political wings, it formed most of its alliances on the political right. The Nazis were one of several historical groups that used the term National Socialism to describe themselves, and in the 1920s they became the largest such group. The Nazi Party formulated its program in the 25 point National Socialist Program. Among the key elements of Nazism were anti-parliamentarism, Pan-Germanism, racism, collectivism, eugenics, antisemitism, anti-communism, totalitarianism and opposition to econmic liberalism and political liberalism."

        • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/14/2008 11:52:25 PM

          Still Germans, when elected Hitler, thought they voted for socialists. Italians too.

          • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/15/2008 11:33:38 AM

            Hitler was appointed by Hindenburg, not elected.

  • Posted By: Untwestnd @ 12/15/2008 9:24:53 AM

    I wish more people in Government took their oath of office seriously. If any administration thinks it is above the law the whistle should be blown.

  • Posted By: madison.l @ 12/15/2008 6:25:22 AM

    THANK YOU!!!!
    It is nice to know that people within the beauracracy still have loyalty to the everyday American, whoever that may be. More and more it seems like our rights as Americans are fabricated, illusions of youth (remnants of school history lessons) that are harshly yanked away when faced with the real world and the government's actions, the governement that is supposedly the gaurdian of these rights.
    Thank you Mr. Tamm. You are, without a doubt, a true hero.

    • Posted By: Horrible Bastard @ 12/15/2008 9:23:09 AM

      "It is nice to know that people within the beauracracy still have loyalty to the everyday American, whoever that may be."

      Bureaucracy is, oddly enough, the best defense against a police state, through sheer inertia.

  • Posted By: RichinNH @ 12/15/2008 8:59:34 AM

    Oooh great, well thanks Dave! Thanks for throwing all that cold water of reality over another good America bashing story that many have been working hard on in hopes of one day turning it into a movie deal - good will be damned. Your use of facts and history is not only underhanded, but by today's new standard ... well, just plain un-American!

  • Posted By: Toofoocactus @ 12/14/2008 12:59:50 PM

    Shanshayla: "We were attacked on a regular basis throughout the Clinton years... tell us how many times since 9/11 we've been attacked"

    The only terrorist attacks on US territory during the Clinton years were bombs set off by right-wingers like Tim McVeigh and fundamentalist anti-abortionists like Erik Rudolph (who also bombed the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Park). And the first attack on the WTC, which killed 6 people. Are you talking about attacks worldwide and on our allies? According to the State Department's annual report on International Terrorism, the number of terrorist attacks worldwide went from 200 in 2003, to 3000 in 2004 to 11,000 in 2005. At which point the Bush administration quit keeping track of terrorist attacks because the numbers so clearly discredited their policies.

    Our own National Intelligence Estimate stated that the war in Iraq was the primary recruitment vehicle for the violent Islamic extremists who perpetrated 90% of those attacks. While we were wasting hundreds of billions to fight that war and remove Iran's chief MidEast rival and increase Iran's influence, Al Qaeda reorganized and resupplied in their secure havens in western Pakistan. While this administration ignored them. Rumsfeld even went so far as to declare victory in Afghanistan on the same day President Bush made his victory speech on the USS Lincoln under the "Mission Accomplished" banner.

    • Posted By: Shanshayla @ 12/14/2008 3:57:27 PM

      You've forgotten the USS Cole and our embassies. Yes, our interests were being hit until Bush took the fight to them.

      The point is we haven't had any attacks in over eight years, and for that, we're safer.

      • Posted By: ocodan @ 12/14/2008 9:49:32 PM

        Yes, but we had our first terrorist attack on American soil under G.W.

        • Posted By: Shanshayla @ 12/15/2008 8:51:37 AM

          The first time the WTC was bombed was under Clinton. Also, Embassies are considered to be the soil of the country they belong to. We had multiple attacks on those, and the USS Cole as well.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/14/2008 1:28:25 PM

      You forget potential New Year bomber who was stopped on Canadian border not because of intelligence but rather by miracle of God. Al Qaida started lookin on american targets close to the end of Clinton terms.
      Bush made you safe after 9/11, probably it is his only achievement, and wiretapping was abig part of it, just because was a secret. Even ill-performed Iraq war served our National security - it attracted Al Qaida fiters, who othrwise would have ended their lives somewhere in Europe or in USA on suiside missions. Before 9/11 CIA did not have a single agent infiltrated in Al Qaida, probably now after Iraq they have plenty.

  • Posted By: sharkman @ 12/14/2008 7:36:06 PM

    Shanshayla you are a true coward,I would give every American life up before giving up one sentence of our constitution.Our government has overstepped its right to govern.How many terrorist has this wire tapping program caught?Let me tell you none.Old Democrat the problem with our government is secret information.Secrets are derived by cowards who cannot mean what they say and say what they mean.Our public officials running around with their BS security secrets get a grip on reality.Your country is being ran by a bunch of self serving lying pukes face it.

    • Posted By: Shanshayla @ 12/15/2008 8:37:47 AM

      Also, it was learned after 9/11 that right before the WTC and the Pentagon were attacked that two of the hijackers called Afghanistan, perhaps for final instructions. Had this program been in place, the attacks could very well have been averted.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 12/14/2008 7:50:41 PM

      How do you know that no one terrorist was cought? I remember that goverment officials said differently, of course wothout revealing much details. O, I got it, you have clearance and access, and now revealed secret information to us.

      • Posted By: skrekk @ 12/14/2008 10:39:56 PM

        Members of the Senate Intelligence Committee (like Russ Feingold) who have access to this information, have stated that not one terrorist plot has been foiled or a single arrest has resulted from this program. And the few times the government has claimed successes, they've later been contradicted either by other governments or by their own officers:
        http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/reyes-mcconnell-fisa/
        http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/08/legal-surveillance-not-illegal.html

        However, we have monitored bedroom talk between servicemen serving overseas and their spouses back home:
        http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2008/10/23/bushs_boudoir_eavesdroppers/

        Since you sound like a far-right conservative, here's what Bob Barr has to say on the subject:
        http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3d1_1220382859

    • Posted By: ocodan @ 12/14/2008 8:57:04 PM

      Wait a minute sharkman. I'm in as much agreement with you on Bush. But intelligence and national security are important for defending this country. The problem is that the Bush has politicized the CIA and the military to such a degree that career professionals and experts have left both. And, they have used the cloak of national security to cover up illicit activity to an astonishing degree and much detriment. But, I also hold the Democratic Congress, to account for some of this because they didn't act against it strongly enough even though they didn't have the votes to change it.

    • Posted By: SteveofIndiana @ 12/14/2008 8:07:15 PM

      Maybe you Should start the Revolution and Be the New Leader and Call Up the militias who are out there in Small Cells and Stand Up for what you Believe Then.. So Many call others names and Start pointing fingers here and rant, but the ranters like this is the ones who would never Take those Courses , as Our Forefathers did to make this Nation.. and when you lie down and take it....that is called what? being a ./////........

  • Posted By: DHAMPTON100 @ 12/13/2008 8:26:32 PM

    I wish somebody..ANYBODY would look into what Veterans are experiencing at the Dayton VA medical center

    • Posted By: zeth006 @ 12/15/2008 7:58:37 AM

      Yes, I agree. Then we Americans would come to realize the true cost of war.

  • Posted By: one4gipper @ 12/14/2008 8:23:21 AM

    Unbelievable! It is morally acceptable to stick a pair of scissors into the soft spot on the top of the head of a nine month featus and suck its brains out, but, those same people scream that the President who implements a robotic scan of foreign email into and out of the U.S. is a nazi? What a bunch of repugnant amoral hypocrites. It is OK to take a baby that was born alive from a botched abortion and put it in a hospital storeroom to die, but it is a crime to pour water over a terrorist's face to extract vital intelligence to protect out troops. This whole country has turned upside down. We are in a graveyard spiral of our own making from which there appears to be no escape.

    • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 12/14/2008 9:34:09 AM

      Yes, welcome to the twisted logic of modern day liberalism.
      Excellent post, btw.

      • Posted By: drserg @ 12/14/2008 1:23:02 PM

        Both abortion and torture are morally wrong, you are also twisted in your perception of the truth

        • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 12/14/2008 7:49:50 PM

          And you are purposely stretching the definition of torture to fit your pre-conceived notions.

          • Posted By: zeth006 @ 12/15/2008 7:55:46 AM

            Dunno where he twists it. Wanna stop putting words in his mouth?

    • Posted By: Vigilance @ 12/14/2008 8:41:22 AM

      Have fun on the way down. You ever heard the phrase "when the going gets tough, the tough get going"? The optimists and positivists are going to roll up their sleeves and get to the business of trying to fix the country.

      You, however, can continue calling people whiners even as you lament the fall of Western civilization and cry about how bad things are getting, and go grab hot-button issues like partial-birth abortion from threads that have nothing to do with this one in order to make your ideological opponents look like cold-blooded murderers. Maybe you don't have what it takes to discuss the issue on its own merits?

  • Posted By: rsl775 @ 12/14/2008 10:26:03 AM

    Poor man inspite of his familty background history didn't understand national security and committed a criminal act for some twisted logic driven by zero trust in his countries leaders and misplaced fairness for terrorist rights to commit terrorism.

    • Posted By: zeth006 @ 12/15/2008 7:54:48 AM

      Hmmm, and what were our country's leaders doing violating the Constitution? Wanna explain that?

  • Posted By: John Morrissey @ 12/14/2008 11:45:04 AM

    in the 1940's,the US govt was riddled with communist spies who did incredible damage to the US,strengthened the USSR and helped the enslavement of the people of middle and eastern Europe.When caught , they all used the same excuse.They disagreed with the policies of the Administration,and believed they were serving a broader justice by taking the law into their own hands.The authority of the President and the Executive Branch comes from the Constitution via the elector process.Tamm may well have , and probably has cost lives.Who knows if the Mumbai plotters might have been stopped but for this man. This self-righteous creep should face the stiffest penalty the law allows.

    • Posted By: zeth006 @ 12/15/2008 7:53:18 AM

      I don't think Tamm had anything to do with the Mumbai case. The Mumbai incident and Tamm are completely unrelated. Stay on topic or just get out.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 12/14/2008 11:57:06 AM

      So what IS the penalty for reporting criminal activities, Morrissey? I'm curious.

  • Posted By: MDDave @ 12/15/2008 12:05:32 AM

    He gave away an important capability. Misguided traitor.

    • Posted By: ocodan @ 12/15/2008 7:44:00 AM

      He upheld the Constitution which is his primary directive as a law enforcement officer. He is an American Hero!

  • Posted By: madison.l @ 12/15/2008 6:23:02 AM

    THANK YOU!!!!
    It is nice to know that people within the beauracracy still have loyalty to the everyday American, whoever that may be. More and more it seems like our rights as Americans are fabricated, illusions of youth (remnants of school history lessons) that are harshly yanked away when faced with the real world and the government's actions, the governement that is supposedly the gaurdian of these rights.
    Thank you Mr. Tamm. You are, without a doubt, a true hero.

  • Posted By: DavidtheNWOslayer @ 12/15/2008 5:29:59 AM

    He is a hero without question. Without people like him, we'd be in police state by now. THIS IS NOT THE USSRA OR NAZI GERMANY. THIS IS THE USA WITH THE US CONSTITUTION. THANK GOD FOR THE BILL OF RIGHTS. God bless Thomas Mann and his posterity.

  • Posted By: citizen ray @ 12/15/2008 5:29:32 AM

    It is the justice dept who needs to be prosecuted for that and other things of crimes against the american people.Instead of being arrested,he deserves the highest medal of honor that can be given.that is one of many illegal crap against us that needs to be exposed and halted.

  • Posted By: jsteinauer @ 12/15/2008 1:41:06 AM

    RichinNH, you can not give away something that is not yours to begin with. Abuse of power is a self-justifying series of decisions. No one is acusing anyone of not trying to use the authority for purposes other than for fighting terrorism. No one is saying that terrorists deserve even to breath another breath, but destroying the same liberty we are granted by the constitution in defending that liberty from another in the form of terrorism is self-defeating. We are smart, tenacious, and powerful we can prevail against terrorists without giving up the very thing that gave us our freedoms.

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